Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

Episode · 1 year ago

Travis Reed


Welcome to the Huddle with 15-year NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte! Gus welcomes to the Huddle, the incomparable professional basketball player Travis Reed to discuss his unique career playing for several European leagues. Known as the “left-handed wonder,” Travis’ career delivered him to the Dutch Basketball League and the Baltic Basketball league, where he was voted Most Valuable Player in 2006-2007. Gus and Travis discuss how sports shaped their youth and who were the most influential people that helped shape their interests in sports and gave them the confidence to pursue a career in sports. Thanks for stopping by today’s Huddle and enjoy the show!

Hey, everyone, welcome to another episode of Hello Up with Gus. I'm your host, former NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte. And welcome to the new 16 31 digital new studio. You know, some people say no news is good news. Well, I say to those people you've never read 16 31 digital news dot com Go to 16 31 digital news dot com To get your latest news, sports, music and entertainment and maybe even listen to your favorite podcast. Follow up with Gus. Check it out today at www 16 31 digital news dot com. Huddle Up With Gus is Brought to YOU by Vegas Sports Advantage Clients of Vegas Sports Advantage are winning big in 2021 you can be a part of the winning two. As of June 1st, $100 bettors are up $3700 500 dollars, betters are up $18,500 and $1000 betters are up $37,000 and $5000. Betters are up $185,000. Become a client today by clicking the link in the description below and use promo code huddle up To take 25% off your package today, thanks to our partnership, welcome to what surely will be a doozy of a matchup. Brian. Here, sports fans, Whether your game is on the gridiron, at the diamond or on the links, we can only say Welcome to this week's huddle up with gusts. 15 year NFL quarterback Gus parents' passion for sports has taken him on the field and behind the bench is playing for seven NFL franchises with 114 TVs under his belt. Gus knows who the players are and how the games are. One. Uh, it's not every day you get to hang out with an NFL quarterback up. Okay, sports fans from the decked out and plush 16. 31 digital studios. It's kick off time, so snap your chin straps on and get ready to huddle up with us two left. Alright. Hey, everyone, uh, we're we're ready to go here. We're starting up the podcast. We have little technical issues like we always do, but we're figuring all those things out. But, uh, I told yesterday Travis that you know that's part of the show. We got to see what kind of technical skills you have. But welcome to another episode of Huddle Up with guys. I'm your host, Nosferatu in your NFL quarterback, and I want to thank everyone for joining us. I want to thank our partners and sponsors. Uh, 16. 31. Digital news. Appreciate you for always helping us and sharing all of our content. And then, uh, to our special people. Obviously super. Who is this platform? We're on where fans can engage, Come on, live and see everything we're doing as our guests Questions face to face even take a selfie So it's really cool, Uh, and also where I host my podcast How to up with gusts sounder dot FM Uh, if you don't have a podcast and you want to have one, you can go to sounder FM, they will walk you through it. They will help you engage in a new podcast. Tell your story and get your information and content out there. Go to sounder dot FM. Those guys are wonderful. That's where I host all my shows and put it out every Monday so you can listen to huddle up with gusts. You can go to sound or FM or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. All right, so my guest today, uh, he's a professional basketball player. He was. He's a former professional basketball player. He played at U C L. A. And, uh, What is it? Long Beach. Is that right? Uh, both played at two colleges, right? Double duty. So, uh, he went overseas. Played for 10 years overseas. Uh, was M v P over there won a championship overseas, I think was at Holland and Holland. Yes. And so joining me today is none other than Travis Reid. Travis has some, uh, things that he's gonna tell us later about his podcast.

Also his YouTube channel. So a lot going on with Travis. Travis. How you doing today, buddy? Good, Good. Thank you for having me, man. It's nice to get all those formalities out of the way. You always always I like your pa. I was listening to your podcast. You got You got a great little intro. I always add mine at the for the podcast part. I always do it at the beginning. You know, we we recorded earlier. Probably you do too, But, uh, you know, it's great to do this and it's great to have people come on the show that don't have the same background as sports as I do right football my whole life. 25 years in it. And then, you know, now we get to interview people that are pros from other sports. So tell me, I wanted to ask you when how I start every show is how you fell in love with sports. Uh, pretty much. You know, I think the first time I saw the Lakers play way back in, like, 19, I want to say 80 82. My dad told my dad told me I was like, three years old and I watched the NBA Finals like I was a grown man. Uh, TV, anything? Yeah, like this. I have my bottle. If the Lakers lost, I think my father or whatever, Um, you know, my little sippy cup. You know, my juice in it. The Lakers lost, but I grew up watching the Lakers. You know, being from l. A. And that was pretty much, uh, the time I fell in love with, you know, fell in love with basketball. Yeah. I mean, those kind of stories are great. for me. It was the Steelers, right? Growing up in the seventies. Uh, for me, it was the Steelers. And I'm sure for you. So playing basketball, remember? In ninth grade, I'm gonna show you these. And our school colors were purple and gold. These bad boys out, These are This is what I had. That's what I had those and I was about 78 years old. That was the first shoes ever. Got those Magic Johnson. Man, those things wait like £10 of peace. But, you know, everybody loved the Lakers. They were such a big name, You know what I mean? Like, we didn't have the social media and everything you can catch up on now. And there were some big teams that you only saw like bird and everything, but we had purple cold, man, I got the I got the Magic Johnson's No, no, Those are sweet, man. Those are classics. If I can find those, I would buy them for sure, man, I was on. I was looking for the image, right. Uh, and I was on the internet, and people are selling old ones like that were worn. Or maybe that weren't worn. I mean, they're going for a lot of money. People buy those shoes like it's like sports cards. So it's a lot of money out there people want to spend on all that stuff. It's crazy. No, no. The sneaker heads, they pay a lot of money for that. Me? I don't want to pay everyone to pay anything over $100 for a shoe. But you got those tight pockets. Oh, yeah. No, I'm not. I'm not. I've seen Jordan's for 345, 600. I could never do that. That could never be me. Right. So alright, growing up in l. A. All right, you grew up in L. A. But I know your dad was in the Air Force, so you're probably all over the place. Yeah, pretty much as an Army brat. We moved around. Uh, well, he was stationed in North Dakota, so I lived up there pretty much the coldest place on the planet. That's a big difference. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was a little kid. I was a little kid. Then we moved to Sacramento. We were stationed in Sacramento. Um, you know Texas. So he was all over, like I said, moved around a lot growing up. So then I heard that you would go back to your grandma's house in the summertime. Yeah, pretty much. Every summer, I would go back and just stay with, you know, stay with my grandma playing my uncles, you know, back to L. A. At that time, I was like, on my mom's side. I was like, the only grand kid at the time, so they had to see me, you know? So what? So when you're growing up when you go back, was it just basketball only, Or did you play other sports because, you know kind of kids, You just play everything any kind of ball you can get, you go out and do it. Well, you're pretty much...

...growing up. My dad was my coach in all the sports. He coached me and, uh, you know, football. He coached me in soccer. He coached me in basketball. He coached me in baseball, so he coached me in all sports. You know, uh, I played football all way up to about eighth grade, and then I remember the first time I was playing wide receiver because I was tall, tall, lanky kid. First time somebody went in the legs and I was like, Okay, so, yeah, I'm not here. This is a B. That's not for me. First time I played football, I was a lineman, and I did not like that. Some dude smashed me right in the face. I was all for the every plate. No, no, thank you. I imagine that's what I said I was. Yeah, this ain't gonna be the sport for me, so I'm gonna stick with basketball and baseball. Yeah. So when did you really start growing? Uh, pretty much. I was 68, right? Yeah, pretty much. I was relatively tall, uh, most of my life, but I would say probably my seventh or eighth grade year. I grew from about six ft to about 65. Wow. Yeah. I was like me. Like, mine was eighth to ninth from, Like I went from, like, six ft, Two, like, 65. Right. So it's like, uh, my knees would kill me every day. No, no, no. Yeah, it was. It was a lot of nights where I had to get my I felt like an old person getting my legs iced to make me feel better, you know? Yeah, ice my legs. You know, she didn't really know what Always always, man, always. I remember those man just coming home and just dying couldn't move from practice. But you just get up and go do it again the next day. So So All right. So you you had a dad who was pretty strict. I would say if he was a coach and he was a military guy. I'm sure he was strict. My dad worked in the factory, and he was one of 15 kids, and he had his own way of coaching. He coached me as well. So we gotta tell some dad's stories now. So tell me. All right, let's start with the good ones. What's the best dad story you got? I would probably say the my freshman year. U C l A. Because, you see, it was both of our dream schools. Like, pretty much like my dad loved John Wooden growing up. And like we, we knew the Pyramid of success as like 89 year old kids. He make you study it at night? Yes. Yes, exactly. So I had to know the pyramid excess, so I wouldn't be playing in the game that day. So I remember the first time I started at UCLA. As a freshman, and he was at the game, and he, you know, he was, like, crying, you know, because it meant so much to him, too. Yeah. You know, like when I ran out, they said starting power for, you know, Travis Reed. And I kind of pointed to him and he pointed back and like, you could see, like he was, you know, really, really like Oh, my God. My son started, You see, like, you know, Yeah, that that had to be pretty cool. Well, I mean, just the history in that place. Yeah. You know, definitely. You're an l A guy through and through. So you dot your Dodgers? You okay? You told me earlier that you Raiders when they were in l. A. Now not who you rooting for. I root for one player. Uh, one player now, And Tom Brady. Tom Big Tom Brady Fan. Wait. Why do you gotta? There's so many other guys that need your help. Brady. Tom Brady doesn't need anybody's root root for a lot of other guys in the NFL need help. That's all Brady known. I was a big Patriots fan, and Tom left and I became a bucks fan. So I'm more of a Tom Brady fan. So I hear you. Yeah. So, you know, speaking of good stories, my dad, he was one of 15 kids and when I got into the NFL, when he was still alive, he would come. I would invite him and whoever you want to bring to training camp and they would come to my training camp and they would stay in a hotel and I would take care of him and so he'd bring his...'s right, his three brothers who always come with him. And so I remember I went out to breakfast with them, and then I drove them back to their room one day, and they all had their suitcases out in the in their in their hotel room. And I look in all their suitcases and they got like, the little ketchup packets and the salt and sugars and all. I said, What is that? And stuff and they go, Hey, if you grew up in the Depression era You know, this stuff is valuable, and I'm like, we're not in the Hera anymore. You don't need to take You got stuff at home. They would steal everything from, like, every restaurant we went to, like it was crazy, but they loved it. My dad, him and his brother is like, You go to training camp, and you have to be like, there's, like, protocols that you follow, like their unwritten rules, Like family stays over here, you know, don't wander around within five minutes of training camp there, talking to coaches. They're all over the field and the head coach. Gus, what are they doing? I'm like, I don't know. They're hurting anybody. And he's like, No, but, you know, and I'm like, just cram them in. They'll do whatever you tell them. They're like, they're like she But that was, you know, they love the same way. My dad was always real proud, and and, uh, it was it was a really good guy with all that. All right, Now give me one of your your not so good story. Because I know you've got something just like because when your dad, when it's coaching time Oh, man. Watch out. No, I would say, uh, like, uh, the worst experience I had with my dad was probably not even in the game. Was probably a practice. I remember one practice that, uh, he was just on me, you know? And I think, uh, see, that I was I was at the Boys and Girls Club. That's when my, you know, my dad was he worked at the Boys and Girls Club, and I played that. And so imagine your father being twice as hard on you as everybody else just to show everybody else he has no favoritism towards you. So it was one day he would just on me, and I just was like, I couldn't take it anymore. So I quit. And, uh, So imagine quitting your dad's team, and you have to you have to get in the car with him on the way back home. So he was like, Oh, so you're gonna embarrass me? You gonna Where you gonna quit? The team. Quit team embarrassed, you know. All right. He took I had a not a Nintendo at the time. He took it and broke it in front of my face. You know. Yeah, You embarrass me, broke it and then took it. And then I remember that my mom was like, What do you do? And that costs a lot of money. I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Well, our dad must have been pretty similar. My dad was coaching me and senior Little League with my grandfather. Um, and I was pitching right, So it's the beginning of the inning. I walked the first batter there in the dugout, already screaming, screaming at me like throw it over the plate. Who cares if he gets it right? 2nd batter comes up ball ball. They like, Move Now. They're like, halfway between the dugout on the third base line, and I'll never forget this. And so I throw another ball. They're screaming, Throw it over the plate. We can't pitch what? Whatever they're saying, you know, it's just getting intense. So I walked the second guy. Third guy. First pitch is a ball Now. They're on the line, the third base line, like the foul line standing there, yelling at me with all the other parents and everything. They're screaming at me, so throw two more pitches. They're just going crazy. Nobody's breaking them up. The referees aren't saying anything to them or, you know, this is old school. So throw the ball, walked the guy. They're just going insane. And I put my glove down. Didn't say anything. I'm probably crying at this point. I'm like, 12 years old. Put my glove down. And luckily, I only lived like a mile from there and I walked home and my dad and my grandfather didn't talk to me for two weeks. They were coaching our team and I still go play and I'd sit. They...

...wouldn't talk to me. They never gave me anything for two weeks. And then finally it got better. But you know, I know how you feel when it comes to you through your parents coaching. It's tough sometimes. No, no. I mean, you already know, like, imagine dry the night before the game. You know my dad, your dad talking to you. That's my dad did the night before the game talks to you in the morning. You wake up, you're eating cereal was talking to you, Um, you know, towards driving towards the game. He's talking to you at the game. He's yelling at you after the game. He's talking to you. And when you get home, he's talking to you. Just by the end of the day, you're just exhausted like Oh, gosh, you know? Well, you know, I'm playing in the NFL, right? And I'd call my dad after every game and it was never Hey, it was a great throw you through for the touchdown. It was, Why did you throw those two interceptions like he was hard on me like it wasn't about positive stuff. It was always like, you know, let's fix the negatives And that was tough. That was tough to deal with that when you would call home. No. Definitely. Travis, we've got a question from Terrier Travis. What do you think about Bruins guard David Singleton and where he will end up in the NBA? Hashtag go Bruins. David Singleton. Hmm. I would say the top three players for U. C. L. A is Johnny Zuzang and and how I may, you know, those are like first round picks. Yeah, and I don't really know what David Singleton for for for basketball, where you get David Singleton from stereo chat with us and let us know. All right, I got, I got I got another buddy of mine. Brett Lauren. I did his podcast. He has a podcast as well. Bret wants to know. He said, Hey, what's up, guys? Hey, I hope all is well. Ask Travis about when he was at U C L. A. And they played U N C. In 1997 they played Vince Carter. He'll know, Alright tells the Vince Carter story. Well, it's the same story I told on his show. I was on the bread show, so pretty much we're playing North Carolina is my very first game in college. Were playing in the Alaskan Shootout. Uh, they had Vince Carter, Antwan Jamison, Brendan Haywood, like three or 4 NBA guys on their team. So we're on. I'm on the bench were screaming, You know, we're playing the zone or something like that. And so they do like the the like, a lot of play the bench. You know, Vince's like Vince when he had, like, a 50 inch vertical at the time, he was crazy. Yeah, and, uh, what happened for him, was he They threw alive to them, and we're unless they were up. It's like you know, 772 or whatever. Maybe 62. Whatever they throw alive to him, he catches it. And he didn't. He flushed, dunks it. And then he runs by our bitch laughing like, yeah, I'm not gonna win. We looked at each other like, man, we might not win, I guess. What? People have those skills, man. You're like, Whoa, Yeah, we saw that. It was like, uh yeah, and you can look at you can look it up on YouTube. It's on YouTube, like the game in North Carolina versus U C. L. A 1997 last shootout and you can see his dunk and they can show him running back smiling. But he was like, Yeah, I'm not gonna win. We were like, Well, you know, the good thing I would say about that, he probably did that to almost everybody he played Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Not even question that question. Yeah, so So then you're at u C l A. You're there two years. What was the change to go to Long Beach State? Pretty much, you know, mean Coach Lavin didn't really see eye to eye on playing time. You know pretty much the same old thing. I thought I should be playing more. Uh, he, you know, he was like, Well, you're going to play more. You're going to play more.

And I thought, Well, I just want to play somewhere consistent. I would have stayed to U C L A. If he said he would have played me Say 25 to 30 minutes a game. But it was always, like, 25 minutes and eight and 30 and four. I just couldn't get around. You did the transfer portal portal before anybody started it. But my I'm so upset because you have to sit out a year. You know all you did? Yeah. Back then you had to sit out a whole year in the transfer, so and if you went in conference, you would have to sit out two years. Oh, my gosh. That's why I picked out a conference. Yeah, You have to pick out a conference because yeah, they don't. They don't want you to come back and buy them. Oh, yeah. Now, if you have eligibility, go wherever you want and just, you know, it just rolls. It just rolls. Just rolls right through. Okay, let's see what Teri said. Teri said, uh has played 94 games through three seasons. Made 20 starts, has averaged 4.71.6 rebounds through three years. Has moved into number five, son. Useless career three point field goal percentage. Okay, I don't know where she's getting some numbers from somewhere. I tell her. Thank you for that. But like I said, the main guys, the main guys, I know them. You know, I don't know where he's gonna go as a start. Hey, in the NBA, just shooter. I would I would listen to Travis Terry because, um, he has a show you don't believe on u C l A. So you know those guys in and out. He's a great shooter. Travis. Yeah, he was a great shooter, but like, he's a great shooter. I think in that system, he's a little one dimensional. Yeah. So you go to Long Beach State and what was that like for you adjusting when you left? U C l A. It was hard because it was a magic going from a major, major, major high program to a mid major. So, like the the perks and things like that you go from U C L. A is just different than one mistake Not saying obesity is terrible, but u c l A You can get, you know, more stuff more this more that, you know, you got to swag. Yeah, You get all that and then some of u C l a Long Beach. It wasn't that Long. Beach was, uh, you know, it's it's a little bit more smaller. Yeah, Put it this way. You're throwing your own. Sh it in the washer. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You better throw them in yourself. You see that? We had, like, six or seven. Like, say, you know, ball boys or, you know, guys who took care of right long, But she was one. So one guy who had to do the whole team. So was it too, Like, Hey, my shoes aren't fitting, right? Or they don't feel good. You have to be like six other pair. Long Beach State's like sorry. Yeah. No, it wasn't that bad, but it used to delay. It was they had they had we had, like, a like a gate, like a little back end. Your shoes are messed up your shoe laces messed up. Okay, Done. Get him another pair of shoes. You know, this is that. Get him another pair of shoes. Get another pair of shorts, get them out of this and you'll be like, Okay, Long Beach, Uh, you might get to pair, you know, And that was that was pretty much it. Right. So how many of your I'm assuming you had a lot of friends in L. A. Uh, would they go to a lot of games? They come watch you play? Oh, yeah, definitely. Uh, like I thought that Long beach, You know, for me, it was a showcase to see, you know, like, because Long beach I played and started, you know, my whole career there and all my friends, they would come and visit and watch me play. Um, you know, because but, like when they're not playing and, uh, like I said, I lobbies for me, it was just a great thing because I graduated college from Long Beach and I'm a I'm a Big West all first team both years and, uh, you know, give me a chance to continue my career, you know, professionally. So So you finish at Long Beach State. I'm not familiar with how the NBA kind of that whole process works. Like, obviously, we know about the one and done guys right? Those guys are there different. But there's so many other guys that... college basketball and have hopes and dreams to go and play in the NBA. And I was talking to somebody the other day and I said, Football is probably the only professional sport where you can't go to another country besides Canada and play right. Baseball, hockey, all these other sports soccer. You can go overseas and play. So you ended up overseas. So tell me that journey a little bit that that you know how you got there? Well, pretty much what happened was my junior year. A friend of mine who was a senior, Uh, he got an agent who was overseas. Agent, uh, name. His name is Rock Lloyd. Uh, his. Actually, his son is one of the top players in the country right now. Um, he had an agent and saw his agent went to see him, but saw me at a game as a junior. He was like, Who's that tall guy? That's my boy Travis. Just watching for is the senior year. So I had an agent hook up, you know, for overseas basketball already. Now what happened for me was I had a couple of NBA teams looking at me, but they end up drafting a different guy, and the team that was most interested said you can come to our what they call like summer league team. But they had, like, four or five guys in my position, and I'm like, I'm not gonna make the team. And I just went literally After I graduated college, I was like, Okay, should I try the N b A and maybe make it and go to the D League at the time? Because that's what it's called the D League. My friend told me it was horrible, Said the money wasn't great. And then you'll be staying in like a two bedroom apartment with, like, 34 guys. Uh, that's like you want to get? Yeah, I was like, you know, you're making 2500 and I was like, man, I'd rather go overseas and make money, you know? And, uh, literally, that same agent that saw me said I can get you to bogota, Colombia for, like, 5000 a month. Yeah, my first job. And I was like, Okay, I got my I got my passport in the summer. I graduated in May, and in June, I was overseas. Now, how hard was that for you? Not obviously. Basketball's basketball, Right? But connecting language, all those things. That first experience for you. How hard was that? Now it's insanely hard, and every country is harder and harder. But like, you know, if you go to the same country, you start getting used to things. Um, but I would say my first experience in Bogota, Colombia. I remember the coach. We had a game and he talked, like, say, pregame stuff. And he talked for, like, 15 minutes. And then I asked the my teammate who spoke English, and I was like, what do you say now? Granny? I told you, talked with 15 minutes. He said, get the ball to you inside, I said when he talked for 15 minutes, it was, like, more or less. Get the ball to Travis. Get out the way. Get out the way. You're like, all right? I can deal with that. You don't need a language. Very well. Give me the ball. So if you would have had, like, the translator on your phone that you have now, how much easier would that have been for you? Oh, my gosh. It would have been so much more easier living life. I really wish that that was You know, the technology was then you know where I was there? Pretty much. I had to learn how to say, slow down and chicken in every single country I knew I was gonna say You have to go out and eat. And I'm sure you're not speaking English. No, no chicken, whatever chicken was, uh, you know, Pluto in, in both guitar. Connor Ela in in Estonia. You know, whatever country I knew how to say chicken, did they ever bring you something that wasn't chicken? Yes. They brought me in Bogota, Colombia. That's how I learned how to say chicken. They brought me like fish with eyeballs in it. You know, like just a regular fish, the whole fish.

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Yeah, like in Europe. It's like, pretty much you get, you might stop in London. So that's 10 hours from California and from London to wherever is, like, you know, 34 hours, but, Um, yeah, most of the time, if you go straight 15 hours. So they had the NFL Europe for a while and I never played in it, but we had some guys go over and tell me stories. Coaches kept practices a little shorter and things so guys can experience the culture, get out in town, see what it's like. What was that experience like for you today? Give you time? Did you get to go out and see? Because, I mean, obviously you don't know all these places and you get to go out and walk around. Uh, was that pretty cool for you? Oh, definitely. Like when you're a professional, you know? You know what it is? You have a lot of time and pretty much, you know, like in order for me this is just me. In order for me to survive and to like cope. I used to have a routine and my routine was Get up, Get early. You know, Get up early, get my breakfast. You know, go to the weight room, go lift or go shoot, um, at the gym. Come back home. Uh, take a nap. You know, get up, eat my lunch, go. You know, go to practice, uh, and then come back home and play some PlayStation. And so that was my routine, like daily, you know, uh, until the game days. You know? Then I had a game day routine, but yeah, it was. But I had a lot of friends Who would, you know, like on the weekends after the game, Stay on a Sunday, I would go out into the town and see what's about for me all I was pretty simple. All I needed was like a mall, a movie theater, and, like, a nightclub. You know, like those three. If I had those three, I was good. So you weren't interested in history like, Oh, there's a really cool site over here where this happened. You know, in the early 18 hundreds, I'm gonna go check it out like that. That was not I was never That was I wish I would have done it now. But back then I was not like I remember when my, uh, my mom came. She visited me. She was like, You ain't going outside. I'm like Mama just went to the gym. I'm tired. I'm going home. She was like, I want to go somewhere I'm like So I had to the organization take my mom around because she was hopeless and I was like, Mom, I want to sleep. I got practice. I'm going to sleep. What? So when you guys would travel like, say, you're playing these teams and you you weren't in the same place, you wouldn't play in the same place all the time. When you would travel Was that bus was a train? What was kind of the or did you fly? What? What was mode of transportation? Mostly in Europe for you? Pretty much my team, the teams. I was almost pretty good. There were like top teams in the league, so we played in a couple of weeks. So, like to get around and say just example for Holland Hollande. We just took the bus around from place to place. But when we win the championship in Holland, we played in what you call the Hewlett Cup. And what do you look up is is pretty much a league where you play like the champions of other countries. So we went to Spain, We went to Italy, we went to Greece. We went to France, Germany, and play like the best teams in their league. And then the best of the best go up to, like, the higher levels of you know, of of the Europe Cup until, like the crowning champions. So we we've flown there, but like, pretty much you just take Busses everywhere. Take Busses everywhere. Because I know that that Europe has a great train system. Yeah, I'm always complaining that the United States we have a terrible one. Oh, yeah. Compared to Europe. Yeah. Like for me, from Pittsburgh to Philly, where my daughter was going to school. It's like I can drive there in 4.5 hours. I can take the train and will take eight hours like the one That's what I'm gonna do. You know it's crazy, right? Right, right, right. All right. Hey, Terry has another quote. What country had your favorite culture and why? Which country... you miss? I would say Estonia I miss Estonia because the people was super nice. Um, there they had a great party culture, you know, great party culture. Um, even though, like it was freezing, it was at the Baltic tip. So? So it used to be part of USSR, but it broke into in his own country, but yeah, but people, they have a lot of fun out there, and they love their basketball. So it was That was pretty much one of the coaches I missed. Now, as far as Holland goes, I missed the food, which is weird. I really enjoyed Holly. Yeah, I really wish I was special about their food. Like what was it? I'll tell you, the funny thing was like the after club food. Uh, they had always had, like, this nice restaurant where you can eat really good food. Really good Dutch food. But let's just say, for example, you just want to say something like that. But they had what they say. They have this thing of, like, fries, right. Then you eat it with mayonnaise. Mayonnaise? Yeah. Hot mayonnaise. When you first saw your like, I was like, you know, I didn't do it for the whole first year. I didn't eat it. And then my teammate was like, big dude, Just try it. Trust me. And then I tried. I was like, It's not half bad, so right. Exactly. That's probably one of the little things. Definitely from Holland that I, you know, I miss and Australia just the food. They just you know, the food they had. They were like the States they had Burger King McDonald's 13 months later, subway straight. Had everything that we have here. Everything. Wait. So you didn't even go to the reef in Australia? You didn't check it out. It was another another. Another different. That was a different city. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you look at some of the stuff in Australia as far as animals and everything they have done. And you're like, Man, I don't know if I want to go out of the building that I Well, I went to a crocodile farm. I actually ate crocodile. Yeah. Um, well, I mean, a lot of people do that here in the States. Well, they were more in Louisiana and that way the alligator and stuff. But was it bad? What do you think it was a mix between chicken and fish. It was okay. I wouldn't I wouldn't say. Oh, yeah, let's try a crocodile. It's tried, Tried it And that's pretty much done. Yeah, There you go. Well, you know, it's pretty amazing that you get to go overseas and and trial, see all the different cultures. That was that a shock because, you know, Europe has these little countries and you go from one to another and it's completely different how they treat different aspects of life. Was that a Was that pretty cool to see? No, definitely. I would say the most beautiful place I've seen besides the United States, obviously is Spain. Barcelona, Spain, is I've had it back to where you live anywhere in the world. I would live in their Barcelona because it was beyond beautiful. Yeah, that it was. And and and the people seem like they're genuine over there. No, no, definitely. Like they were really nice. Uh, they worship Rafael Nadal out their worship him, you know, they have He has, like, a big, almost like a statue of himself out there. It's, uh but like, Barcelona is like insane. I love the Barcelona. It was really, really nice. Well, you know, they the sports, they absolutely love them. Like when you watch soccer matches and you see the people in the stands there going crazy like, um, now when they would come watch you play basketball. What was it like in the in the arenas where you would play? Oh, Oh, my gosh. I can We can talk about this for about an hour. Or the different arenas. How they have different stuff? Yeah, Yeah. The craziest place I played in a to crazy places. One was in Croatia. We played this team of Croatia where they actually smoked in the arena. So imagine playing in the gym with this big smoke. Dust is over you and we can't breathe. They're like coughing.

How they plan in this. How the team playing in this and like, I'm just like, how you're not breathing. Like God, they're smoking, like in the they're not even filtered either. There's just No, no, no, it's It's just chain smoking, like lighting one up as one's finishing. And they're like, Wait, did you come out like, for warm ups and they were smoking or just start the game? You know they were smoking as soon as we started the game like they were already pre game. Hey, I'm like ref, There's nothing like no smoking in the gym. There's no smoking sign. That was one. And then the second place was Bogota Colombian rgm. We played in like a cage. So it's like, Imagine the court and then a cage, a fence around the court and you had a bad match. And so it was kind of like outside, but it was covered. Uh, like the windows are open. So it'll be raining that night and people be they would open up tire flares and like they'd be singing and doing the flares up in the air. And I'm like, Man, this is insane. This is Yeah. If you could have only had an iPhone to record all that like Oh, my God, Yeah, that have been cool. But like, they opened up like they say, like the fire they did, uh, singing. And like in Europe. And they have a different kind of passion because they sing and dance and just it's insane. It's insane. So you said your mom came over to see you. Did anybody else from your family. Come, come watch you play just my mom and my step mom, You know, for his family. You know, I had my girlfriend at the time. She came to live with me for, like a year, but she just couldn't. She was born out of her mind because I was going to practice and coming home, and, you know, she was just at the house all day, so she just couldn't take it. So she had to say, I gotta go back. Yeah, she's from Pasadena. So, like, yeah, California is unlike any other places she would have been from, like rural, you know, somewhere real, she would have understood the slow pace. Yeah. I should have went to Long Beach State. Should have been like, Oh, this is, like top notch over here at Long Beach State. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. Hey, I went too tall, so I know all about that stuff. You know, that's just how it is. So, um, you play for 10 years? Uh, it sounds like you had a lot of fun. You had a great career. Obviously, you you were M v P. You did a lot of great things now when you would go out in communities where you were playing, Did they recognize you for all that? Like, did people say, Hey, there's Travis. Yeah. And in in, uh, in Holland. Especially because I stayed there the longest. I stayed there four years of my career. Um, you know, when we won the championship, You know, my second year over there, you know, like, the third year was kind of insane to the documentary of the team. Uh, so we had cameras following us around the whole time. Um, you know, people start naming babies. Their middle names was Travis Dutch, baby. Yeah, I took so many pictures of babies with their middle name was Travis, you know, and, uh, you know, some of the fans, you know, actually sent me pictures of the kids because they're older now, obviously. But you don't remember when they were babies and, like the middle name was Travis. So it's kind of that's really cool. Yeah. So, like, in some places, it was they were just like Travis, you know, like they would they would see Well, you know, like the States is way different, like they have. You have all kind of memorabilia for players. And you have obviously cards that people have. I have a ton of them. We collect them. What is that, like over there? Do they have that kind of stuff for you? Like where fans can Hey, they have a picture of you, and you can sign it. Oh, yeah, like not as much in Holland, they had, you know, like T shirts or cards or whatever. In Estonia, they had actual jerseys that they sold in, uh, their version of foot locker, you know? Yeah. So I actually have one of them when they have, like, the read on the back, and the fans bought it. And so, like, I bought a Yeah, I bought a couple of them. Um, you know, they...

...had t shirts. They had all kind of stuff. That was, uh, insane. Well, they had, like, when I saw a lot of the jerseys, right. They were like, um, It was like it wasn't like the team logo. I don't know, but it was like there were a lot of different logos on. It was all sponsorship kind of thing. That's how Europe is, like they want the NBA to eventually come to that. But the NBA is kind of like look, we just want Lakers not like breakers and 50 sponsors all over, right? Right. You know, in Europe, it's like whatever sponsors, whoever the biggest sponsor are all over the jerseys. So in Croatia, when you play like the other team, just had all kind of cigarettes, sponsors all other camel pay them the money. They can do whatever they want. Exactly. Exactly. You know, that was Gracia was insane. Yeah, I see you showed up. Hey, how you doing, buddy? Uh, Tony, turn your camera, Michael, on you. Come on and ask my man. Travis questions. So, Travis, I was going through. I was trying to find some really cool pictures of you. Um and, uh, there's like So this is an old one, right? U C l A. That was freshman year. U C l A Remember all these guys who are all these guys here? All right, I can go. Uh, let's see from me. Obviously, I'm the one on the far right. And then Rico Hines, who is a coach for Sacramento Kings now, one of the time assistance Earl Watson who number he played in the NBA for 16 years. Uh, now was a former head coach of Phoenix Suns. Now his assistant coach for Toronto Raptors. Steve Lavin was the coach. He, you know, works for Fox now, I believe Baron Davis, you know who's, you know, one of the probably the top one of the top of California guards in California history. Play in the NBA for, like, 13 years. Two time all star. Um, you know, like I said, just one of the, you know, great talents in California history, right? The reason why I do. My podcast. Billy Knight, God rest his soul. Um, he's, uh he played overseas 15 years or 14 years. We played overseas together. Yeah. You know, he just recently passed away about three years ago. Um, yeah. So, you know, like, he had a little bit of a struggle to from that transition? Yeah, what we're talking about. Yeah. Transition from, you know, ball. You know, being professional basketball player to the after of everything else. And then, uh, tie. Ramasar is he's an agent. An NBA agent. So he's represented. Bearings represented Earl. He represents Paso CIA. Come which is NBA All Star So he has a lot of agents. A lot of draftees. Good guy. So do you stay in touch with these guys? Yeah, I pretty much talk to him from time to time. Um, you know, all of them? Uh, not as much as Maybe I wouldn't want to, but I still keep in contact with Earl Barron and, you know, and laughing. And Rico and Todd, That's awesome. And then I got one question with this is this Did your dad teach you this Shooting like, uh, free throw? You gonna kiss the ball like I don't I don't know. Like, what was that? Might have been your your way? Because you seem like you gotta You gotta like a schedule like this is what I gotta do every time. No, no. Well, you don't. You probably can't see it now, but I broke my left hand, and so it turns to the turns a little bit to the right. So I have to have to kind of make sure my arm, it's like, you know, in in, in. So I was I was always close. The ball was to my lips a lot When I shot the free throw. So I tried to shoot it over my face even though I had a broken broken arm where it kind of turns to the right. Really? Yeah, well, all right. So you were talking a little bit about transition. We were talking about that and you're telling your stories in the basketball life and I was reading about it. It's your story, but you bring...

...other people on to tell their story as well. And, uh, you know, we all struggle with this kind of thing. Uh, as former players, not all of us get to go on and be in whatever the next job comes right up because we did something so specific, and it's hard to translate that to business or whatever else you want to do. So tell me a little bit about the basketball life that you're doing. Pretty much that was like the first podcast. Travel basketball like that was strictly about my 10 years overseas. The show is called an athlete's journey, and pretty much what it is is I interviewed former current athletes about their journeys from how they started basketball. Did they play different sports? Um, from their journey to high school through college to professional ranks, but most like, But mostly it was for the after. Um, you know what happened after the the lights, you quote unquote get turned out and you become a regular, you know, if you want to say person, you know, for me, I play basketball from five all the way to 33. That's 28 years of my life. And then so when I was 33, I just had no idea. Like, what was my next move? I just was kind of like, Okay, I got a son, I got responsibilities, and I got to figure out what the heck I'm gonna do. So it just took me a while. Like it takes a lot of other athletes awhile to kind of figure out what's their niches and what they want to do. Who did you go to for advice? Uh, pretty much. You know, I went like a lot of family, a lot of family, my father pretty much a lot. And then, you know, basically myself and God, you know, a lot of family. My mother I talked. My mother is very, uh, person that just inspirational. So she's always like, baby, It's okay. You're gonna figure it out. She's always giving me confidence, you know? Yeah. Yeah. My dad has calmed down a lot. You know, as you know, as the older he's gotten, so he's like, you'll figure it out. You'll be okay. And so it was pretty much just dealing with family, dealing with those kind of things to figure out what was my next. My next move. Yeah. No, it is tough, right? Because I retired in 08. I played 15 years in the NFL, and I remember I was thinking about retiring. And I would call former players that I knew or that I was teammates with and and already retired. I wanted to know what what? How did they decide to retire? And they all said, Well, you'll know when you know. And I'm like, That's the answer, like I don't know, like, and it does. It's like, you know, when you know, I I left the Vikings, went to the Rams. They failed me in the physical. I was 38 years old, gonna be 39. I was like, I'm done. It's like, been long enough fried. I'm beat up and and wanted to move on. And then, like I, I started coaching because it's like, What else? I don't know. What else do I do? Right? What else do I do? I know. It's like I got my PhD in football. Okay, You know what I mean. It's kind of how it is. So coaching seems like a very natural fit. Um, and I decided to coach my youngest son's sixth grade football team or seventh grade, or whatever. It was like they were. And I was like, What are you doing? This is nuts. They don't know one thing you're talking about, and neither did Dad's, right. All the dads were football. Coach is not exactly what I was talking about either. So I learned real quick that you got to kind of bring your what you're saying. Yeah, but it is tough. And then especially like, if you go to be a coach, unless you're like a top coach, you're not gonna make any money. You used to make money. You're raising a family. Uh, and then you're trying to, you know, uh, we all have to figure out how to deal with these things. And so for you did any of those teams? Did any of those organizations help you with that after you were done? Pretty much. No, um, you know, once, like in Europe, is just a different thing when it comes to like, you know, that in the states, pretty much Europe, I would say it's one is the thing of whatever you make in Europe. Let's just say I made 100,000. That's you. That's what you make like.

There is no pension plan. There is no nothing. It's just whatever you do, whatever you make, that's what it is. If you spend all the money, that's it. Uh, now if you say you marry, you know, like if I married a Dutch girl and lived out there, maybe these teams would have reached out. Maybe I'll try to be assistant culture because a lot of my former teammates and competitors, you know, they married, you know, European women and became coaches out there in Europe. But for me, that wasn't the case. I came back to the States, and I just you know, I went into a bunch of jobs like sales, and I work for enterprise. Um, you know, I just had to figure out to generate some cash. So I can, you know, help help provide for my son and, uh, you know, Southern and what job I'm at now. And since I've been comfortable with this job, that's why I started the podcast and doing that other kind of stuff kind of to reach out because my son asked me about, like, about a year ago. It's like Dad, you know, how was your life overseas? And I told him, Son, that's a long and complicated answer And then, you know, and they wrapped my head for, like, a month, and then I was like, podcast. And so that's the podcast has turned into some into some other stuff. But yeah, it's like I said, like, it's been a tough transition. You know, A lot of my friends have said, Man, they hated, you know, basketball, you know, because of what it took from them. Yeah, well, I mean, football is the same way, and it's like once you're done, you're done in. The NFL is like, OK, he's an alumni. We don't We can't help him anymore. He's not going to make us any money, you know, unless you're one of the top tier guys. But other than that, so do you. You know, we have NFL alumni. We have n f l p A. We have some organizations that are doing more for for retired guys. Um, so as a pro basketball player, are there any kind of organizations alumni that you can be a part of that are, you know, have other people that have had the same career as you? I probably could. I haven't looked into it, you know, Uh, you know, I know my dad is like, he's like, Man, you should join the u C L A l m Not and enjoying Long Beach State alumni was like, you should have joined both of them because you went to both schools, right? I was like, you know, I was like, Yeah, maybe I think I'm thinking about doing that. Haven't done it yet, Uh, you know, because I was to be honest, I retracted myself from all that. You know, I moved out of L. A, and I moved to Rancho. And that's kind of why I didn't want to be around. I didn't know how to deal with all that you know, um, so I just kind of retracted myself and kind of stay to myself. Um, but now I think this is a little bit different for me. So I'm ready. I'm ready for, you know, to join alumni Association. Probably both schools. Well, you probably won't like me when I let you know I'm raising kids. You're You're kind of doing. They're going to school, and it's all about them and your wife and your family. Um, and then you're trying to figure it out. Like, where do I fit in? In society now, right? Am I just a guy that people are going to recognize? And I signed an autograph every now and then or or, you know, or sports card or something like or can I be productive and still, you know, because when you retire, you were, what, 34? You said 33 33 Just turned. Basically 32 a half. Just turning 33. And I was 38 I'm like, and you feel like Okay, the word retired. Sounds like I'm old. I'm done. You've got a lot of life left. And you have I mean, I'm 50 and I've been still trying to figure it out. I mean, I love podcasts interviewing people like you, but, you know, as we know, unless you're Joe Rogan or somebody else, you're not making a lot of money. Podcasting. You're you. And so you're still trying to figure it out, and it's a tough It's a tough road when you're done. No, it is. It's been, you know? Yeah, you're 100% right. Like like you said. Unless you're Joe Rogan or Bill Simmons or...

...whatever. Like you speak, you know, interview people. Uh, you know, they make a lot of money, but, like, like, you know, like you said, Like, guys like us, we, uh not so much. I haven't made a dollar from these interviews yet, but hopefully in the future, things that happen. But we'll see. I just enjoy doing it for now, you know, because when I retired Oh, I was gonna say, Yeah, when I retired, I didn't want to retire. It was like, Okay, you're done. You know, like, no teams is offering you the country. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, that's kind of how I retired to write. You reach out, they don't really want you 38. Like the coach goes on, we just want you to come and throw for minicamp. But I'm like I played 15 years. I'm not your you know, I'm not just lackey out there. Doing what? That kind of stuff. I'm going to participate and be a part of the team, right? Yeah. So it has to be hard. So the podcasting, I would tell you, like if you join the alumni's now you're podcasting, join organizations like that. It's kind of connect you with more guests and more people that you can reach out to. You know what I mean? Like, those kind of things will definitely help you with what you're doing, because I listen to some of your shows and and they're really good. And it's people love hearing those stories, and I think that you can do such a good job with what you're you know, all of your shows because you do. On the belief network, you have to Yeah, I have to get to different shows. You what are the ones in U. C. L. A show? I believe. Yeah. I believe in U C L. A Y. I co host with, uh, my my co host. Of course. Sam. Sam, You know, me and him. We talk about U C l A. He's living younger than me, but I'm the former athlete who talks about it, and then the athletes journey is me just interviewing former athletes and things like that. Now you gotta get my buddy. My buddy Danny Farmer on there. Oh, yeah, man, I told you I wanted to get yourself Danny. For all former athletes when we all got to just beat us. Yeah, Danny was a big U C l A guy. Oh, yeah. He could definitely come on any time and played volleyball there, too. Did he? Yeah, I think they won a championship there in volleyball like he was. That man had hops. Oh, no. The volleyball. We used to see them when they would work out. Man, I was like they would play basketball. They reverse Duncan and you guys, you play basketball, man. We used to play the basketball players at Tulsa. Like, you know, we'd get like, some football players that can play. We go play, and I don't remember. Forget Tracy Scroggins. He was a defensive end. He played with us. He played in the league with the Lions for a while. Um, and there was this basketball player and he was like a skinny dude, right? Compared to football player Tracy comes dribbling down. He's standing there, and Tracy is He's about to 80. Just goes up and dunks over him. And the basketball team is like, no, we're done. We're not playing you guys anymore. Yeah, I'm not surprised. Football players, you know, like they're so physical. And it's so like, you know, you guys are so like jack. I know, and he just be like, man, this dude, gosh, he just beats me up. I don't want to play them guys. Yeah, that that was, uh that was kind of the mantra. Like where it's kind of going. It's like, it's like, seven on seven. But it's basketball, and we're just, you know, there's no rules out here. They don't like that very much. Very much. So. What else are you doing now? What else are you up to? You have You're doing three different shows, which is amazing. Oh, yeah. Well, pretty much. My main show was an athlete's journey on the Belief Network um, I interviewed for Like I said, you know, I told you before former athletes about their journeys because I'm really interested to see what happens after, You know, people struggle like I did that they just move into the transition of the next thing easy. Um, you know, everybody was like, you should coach, you should do this. And I'm like, I was never really the coaching type. You know, I just I didn't want to have to climb the ranks of the coaching because you start at the bottom as a coach. Oh, yeah. You start at the bottom. You know what? I sound, too? Is that when I...

...started coaching a little bit like I coached high school for a while and then I would get done and go home. And I'm like, Man, I was just my dad today, like yelling at kids like like, there was only one way they knew. And I'm like, I don't want to do that Like it. I don't want to be like that. Like he was tough, like, you know, our dads were tough. That's how they were. That's what they you know. And I didn't want to be like that. It was hard coaching. No, no, that comes out of you. It does. I mean, when I trained my son, I used to people that want to coach your son. I'm like, I'm so hard on when I train them. So imagine if I coached them. You know, I'd be yelling them hard, and I'll be, like, he'd be like, I don't know. You know Dad. Dad. All right, all right. You know, like, no, you need to do it like this because you're so passionate about it, because you want them to do well, and you want them to be you. But only you can be you. And you know, so coaching wasn't my thing. But, like, for me, I think my thing is like interviewing people talking in the one on one setting. Kinda like this or a group setting. Just letting people Oh, you know, my struggles. My good, my bad. Uh, yeah. And so just to get back on the show is like the I have a u. C l. A show on the belief network as well. Um, it comes out every month, every Monday. My my athletes journey comes out every Tuesday on Spotify, our radio et cetera. Yeah. Now, are you doing everything from home or you? You're gonna go on location? No, no. Everything from home. We haven't, uh, you know, I wanted to be able to I started out on the YouTube, you know, things like in studio, But, you know, But when Covid hit is, I haven't been able to get back in the studio, so yeah. No, it's it's hard. I used to do it in the studio. Now I'm, like, just walk upstairs to do it in a hangout room. You know, it's pretty easy that you can do these things and talk to people all over the world. No, no, definitely, definitely. I've interviewed people in Holland in Florida, you know, back east, you know, everywhere. So for me, it's, you know, it's easier to do it this way. You don't You know that way. Uh, just, uh you don't have to plan as much. You can just Alright. We planted this day this time is knocking out, you know, right? Yeah. Now I hear you. So let all of our audience and listeners know where they can find you and where they can come and listen to your show and athletes journey pretty much you can find, uh, an athlete's journey on Spotify. Uh, just typing Travis Reed and podcast and u C l A believe, uh, you know, believe in U c l a on Spotify as well. Type in my name. Both will come up as well as the travesty the basketball life. Um, also, if you follow me at on instagram at Travis W re, um, And on Facebook, Travis W read you Can I post all my social? You know, all my next things that's coming in my, you know, up for me, all my shows, I post them all on on on my social media platforms. Yeah, Do you like? I mean, it's a lot of work, right? Posting doing all that every day. Oh, yeah, like the post things every day. You know, make sure, like, you know, the show is coming up because I have to, you know, do the show. I send it. You know, my brother helped me edit it. Uh, then he, you know, sends it back. And so then I have to put in the system and then a post on Spotify. He's just like a big thing, you know, like you're doing it all yourself. How tall is your brother? My brother is only 5857. What? He's got all the genes? Yeah, pretty much. We're brothers. I saw the milkman. It was not him. Um, yeah, but, uh, yeah, like it's weird because I'm 67 or 68. My sister is a 58. I have an older brother who's six ft and then my brother's 57, uh, his sisters older than him, too, huh? Yeah, she's tall in them. She's younger than him and calling him. So did he, like, had a little complex...

...growing up like, Well, they always should call this. What's the movie Twins with Danny? Uh oh. And Arnold Schwarzenegger. Like how? Like we were brothers. But he was here, and I was, you know, right there. But no, he's a He's a great guy, you know, like he's in the more behind the scenes technical stuff where I'm like I'm the safe, I want to say the face. Yeah, that's good to have that because the technical stuff as we found out to start the show, it's not the easiest. Oh, Yeah. Gosh. Agreed. Agreed. All right, Chaz. Man, I appreciate you coming on with me. Go enjoy that. L a son. I think it's going down to 32 here in Pittsburgh tonight. So I wish I was out there with you, Uh, and we can go hang out and shoot. It's probably what, 75 out there today? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, it's actually, the funny thing is, the sun is still out. It's about five o'clock here. So almost five. So, yeah, you know, it's all good stuff, all right, But, hey, I appreciate it. Let me know. I'll come on any time you want me to. Uh, yeah, definitely. Definitely. Want to bring your own guts to my show? I think your journeys. I used to watch people like I used to watch us play football, man. So I was like, Yeah, you're young and old. All right, man. Hey, uh, and the other thing, I definitely got to come out because I got to get in and out. Burger. I haven't had one since I played the Raiders in Oakland last time. Oh, yeah. You gotta get in and out and you got to get fat burger. You know which one's better? My opinion. Fatburger Been in and out more commercial. Oh really? Yeah. Fatburger is better. Bigger burger. Trust me. Go to Fatburger. You will love it. So how do you say? I don't know what language they would speak down in Bogota, Colombia? Yeah, they speak, uh, speak Spanish, but it's a different form of So how would they say Fatburger? You got me. I didn't forgot All my Spanish is set the chicken. I know every language. Slow down and chicken. That's funny. That's funny. Alright, Alright, guys. Thank you for joining me and everyone. That was another episode of Huddle up with Gus. I appreciate you joining me here. Thanks to 16. 31 digital news for always sharing our content, Our great platform super here. And also, uh, where we host our podcast sounder dot f m. You can listen to us at huddle up with Gus, um, rebuilding the website. You can check us out there, huddle up with gus dot com and you can listen wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts and you can come and check out all our great guests like Travis Free Travis. Thank you so much I look forward to catching up with you again and let me know I'm ready. All right. Well, any time. Just like I said, man. Bring your own man. We're gonna We're gonna definitely have a good time. And I'm gonna go look up that Vince Carter dunk right now. Look up the Vince Carter dunk. I might post it on my on my instagram just to show everybody like I said, Travis, W read on instagram. Um, but, like Vince is like he dug said that he's laughing. He's laughing. He's talking to our bitch. That's That's a great little tiktok you put up. This is what Vince Carter used to do to all of us. Yeah, that's perfect. Alright, man, have a great night. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks. Thanks. I appreciate it. That's a wrap sports fan. Thanks for joining in the fun at the 60 to 31 Digital studios for another to huddle up with Gus, featuring 15 year NFL quarterback Gus Parent Huddle up with Gus, is proudly produced by 16 31 digital media and is available on Apple music.

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