Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

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Travis Reed

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Welcome to the Huddle with 15-year NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte! Gus welcomes to the Huddle, the incomparable professional basketball player Travis Reed to discuss his unique career playing for several European leagues. Known as the “left-handed wonder,” Travis’ career delivered him to the Dutch Basketball League and the Baltic Basketball league, where he was voted Most Valuable Player in 2006-2007. Gus and Travis discuss how sports shaped their youth and who were the most influential people that helped shape their interests in sports and gave them the confidence to pursue a career in sports. Thanks for stopping by today’s Huddle and enjoy the show!

Hey, everyone, welcome to anotherepisode of Hello Up with Gus. I'm your host, former NFL quarterback GusFrerotte. And welcome to the new 16 31 digital new studio. You know, somepeople say no news is good news. Well, I say to those people you've never read16 31 digital news dot com Go to 16 31 digital news dot com To get your latestnews, sports, music and entertainment and maybe even listen to your favoritepodcast. Follow up with Gus. Check it out today at www 16 31 digital news dotcom. Huddle Up With Gus is Brought to YOU by Vegas Sports Advantage Clientsof Vegas Sports Advantage are winning big in 2021 you can be a part of thewinning two. As of June 1st, $100 bettors are up $3700 500 dollars,betters are up $18,500 and $1000 betters are up $37,000 and $5000.Betters are up $185,000. Become a client today by clicking the link inthe description below and use promo code huddle up To take 25% off yourpackage today, thanks to our partnership, welcome to what surely will be a doozyof a matchup. Brian. Here, sports fans, Whether your game is on the gridiron,at the diamond or on the links, we can only say Welcome to this week's huddle up withgusts. 15 year NFL quarterback Gus parents' passion for sports has takenhim on the field and behind the bench is playing for seven NFL franchiseswith 114 TVs under his belt. Gus knows who the players are and how the gamesare. One. Uh, it's not every day you get to hang out with an NFL quarterbackup. Okay, sports fans from the decked out and plush 16. 31 digital studios.It's kick off time, so snap your chin straps on and get ready to huddle upwith us two left. Alright. Hey, everyone, uh, we're we'reready to go here. We're starting up the podcast. We have little technicalissues like we always do, but we're figuring all those things out. But, uh,I told yesterday Travis that you know that's part of the show. We got to seewhat kind of technical skills you have. But welcome to another episode ofHuddle Up with guys. I'm your host, Nosferatu in your NFL quarterback, andI want to thank everyone for joining us. I want to thank our partners andsponsors. Uh, 16. 31. Digital news. Appreciate you for always helping usand sharing all of our content. And then, uh, to our special people.Obviously super. Who is this platform? We're on where fans can engage, Come on,live and see everything we're doing as our guests Questions face to face eventake a selfie So it's really cool, Uh, and also where I host my podcast How toup with gusts sounder dot FM Uh, if you don't have a podcast and you want tohave one, you can go to sounder FM, they will walk you through it. Theywill help you engage in a new podcast. Tell your story and get yourinformation and content out there. Go to sounder dot FM. Those guys arewonderful. That's where I host all my shows and put it out every Monday soyou can listen to huddle up with gusts. You can go to sound or FM or whereveryou listen to your favorite podcasts. All right, so my guest today, uh, he'sa professional basketball player. He was. He's a former professionalbasketball player. He played at U C L. A. And, uh, What is it? Long Beach. Isthat right? Uh, both played at two colleges, right? Double duty. So, uh,he went overseas. Played for 10 years overseas. Uh, was M v P over there wona championship overseas, I think was at Holland and Holland. Yes. And so joining metoday is none other than Travis Reid. Travis has some, uh, things that he'sgonna tell us later about his podcast.

Also his YouTube channel. So a lotgoing on with Travis. Travis. How you doing today, buddy? Good, Good. Thankyou for having me, man. It's nice to get all those formalities out of theway. You always always I like your pa. I was listening to your podcast. Yougot You got a great little intro. I always add mine at the for the podcastpart. I always do it at the beginning. You know, we we recorded earlier.Probably you do too, But, uh, you know, it's great to do this and it's great tohave people come on the show that don't have the same background as sports as Ido right football my whole life. 25 years in it. And then, you know, now weget to interview people that are pros from other sports. So tell me, I wantedto ask you when how I start every show is how you fell in love with sports. Uh,pretty much. You know, I think the first time I saw the Lakers play wayback in, like, 19, I want to say 80 82. My dad told my dad told me I was like,three years old and I watched the NBA Finals like I was a grown man. Uh, TV,anything? Yeah, like this. I have my bottle. If the Lakers lost, I think myfather or whatever, Um, you know, my little sippy cup. You know, my juice init. The Lakers lost, but I grew up watching the Lakers. You know, beingfrom l. A. And that was pretty much, uh, the time I fell in love with, you know,fell in love with basketball. Yeah. I mean, those kind of stories aregreat. for me. It was the Steelers, right? Growing up in the seventies. Uh,for me, it was the Steelers. And I'm sure for you. So playing basketball,remember? In ninth grade, I'm gonna show you these. And our school colorswere purple and gold. These bad boys out, These are This is what I had.That's what I had those and I was about 78 years old. That was the first shoesever. Got those Magic Johnson. Man, those things wait like £10 of peace.But, you know, everybody loved the Lakers. They were such a big name, Youknow what I mean? Like, we didn't have the social media and everything you cancatch up on now. And there were some big teams that you only saw like birdand everything, but we had purple cold, man, I got the I got the MagicJohnson's No, no, Those are sweet, man. Those are classics. If I can find those,I would buy them for sure, man, I was on. I was looking for the image, right.Uh, and I was on the internet, and people are selling old ones like thatwere worn. Or maybe that weren't worn. I mean, they're going for a lot ofmoney. People buy those shoes like it's like sports cards. So it's a lot ofmoney out there people want to spend on all that stuff. It's crazy. No, no. Thesneaker heads, they pay a lot of money for that. Me? I don't want to payeveryone to pay anything over $100 for a shoe. But you got those tight pockets.Oh, yeah. No, I'm not. I'm not. I've seen Jordan's for 345, 600. I couldnever do that. That could never be me. Right. So alright, growing up in l. A.All right, you grew up in L. A. But I know your dad was in the Air Force, soyou're probably all over the place. Yeah, pretty much as an Army brat. Wemoved around. Uh, well, he was stationed in North Dakota, so I livedup there pretty much the coldest place on the planet. That's a big difference.Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was a little kid. I was a little kid.Then we moved to Sacramento. We were stationed in Sacramento. Um, you knowTexas. So he was all over, like I said, moved around a lot growing up. So thenI heard that you would go back to your grandma's house in the summertime. Yeah,pretty much. Every summer, I would go back and just stay with, you know, staywith my grandma playing my uncles, you know, back to L. A. At that time, I waslike, on my mom's side. I was like, the only grand kid at the time, so they hadto see me, you know? So what? So when you're growing up when you go back, wasit just basketball only, Or did you play other sports because, you knowkind of kids, You just play everything any kind of ball you can get, you goout and do it. Well, you're pretty much...

...growing up. My dad was my coach in allthe sports. He coached me and, uh, you know, football. He coached me in soccer.He coached me in basketball. He coached me in baseball, so he coached me in allsports. You know, uh, I played football all way up to about eighth grade, andthen I remember the first time I was playing wide receiver because I wastall, tall, lanky kid. First time somebody went in the legs and I waslike, Okay, so, yeah, I'm not here. This is a B. That's not for me. Firsttime I played football, I was a lineman, and I did not like that. Some dudesmashed me right in the face. I was all for the every plate. No, no, thank you.I imagine that's what I said I was. Yeah, this ain't gonna be the sport forme, so I'm gonna stick with basketball and baseball. Yeah. So when did youreally start growing? Uh, pretty much. I was 68, right? Yeah, pretty much. Iwas relatively tall, uh, most of my life, but I would say probably myseventh or eighth grade year. I grew from about six ft to about 65. Wow.Yeah. I was like me. Like, mine was eighth to ninth from, Like I went from,like, six ft, Two, like, 65. Right. So it's like, uh, my knees would kill meevery day. No, no, no. Yeah, it was. It was a lot of nights where I had to getmy I felt like an old person getting my legs iced to make me feel better, youknow? Yeah, ice my legs. You know, she didn't really know what Always always,man, always. I remember those man just coming home and just dying couldn'tmove from practice. But you just get up and go do it again the next day. So SoAll right. So you you had a dad who was pretty strict. I would say if he was acoach and he was a military guy. I'm sure he was strict. My dad worked inthe factory, and he was one of 15 kids, and he had his own way of coaching. Hecoached me as well. So we gotta tell some dad's stories now. So tell me. Allright, let's start with the good ones. What's the best dad story you got? Iwould probably say the my freshman year. U C l A. Because, you see, it was bothof our dream schools. Like, pretty much like my dad loved John Wooden growingup. And like we, we knew the Pyramid of success as like 89 year old kids. Hemake you study it at night? Yes. Yes, exactly. So I had to know the pyramidexcess, so I wouldn't be playing in the game that day. So I remember the firsttime I started at UCLA. As a freshman, and he was at the game, and he, youknow, he was, like, crying, you know, because it meant so much to him, too.Yeah. You know, like when I ran out, they said starting power for, you know,Travis Reed. And I kind of pointed to him and he pointed back and like, youcould see, like he was, you know, really, really like Oh, my God. My sonstarted, You see, like, you know, Yeah, that that had to be pretty cool. Well,I mean, just the history in that place. Yeah. You know, definitely. You're an lA guy through and through. So you dot your Dodgers? You okay? You told meearlier that you Raiders when they were in l. A. Now not who you rooting for. Iroot for one player. Uh, one player now, And Tom Brady. Tom Big Tom Brady Fan.Wait. Why do you gotta? There's so many other guys that need your help. Brady.Tom Brady doesn't need anybody's root root for a lot of other guys in the NFLneed help. That's all Brady known. I was a big Patriots fan, and Tom leftand I became a bucks fan. So I'm more of a Tom Brady fan. So I hear you. Yeah.So, you know, speaking of good stories, my dad, he was one of 15 kids and whenI got into the NFL, when he was still alive, he would come.I would invite him and whoever you want to bring to training camp and theywould come to my training camp and they would stay in a hotel and I would takecare of him and so he'd bring his...

...brother's right, his three brothers whoalways come with him. And so I remember I went out to breakfast with them, andthen I drove them back to their room one day, and they all had theirsuitcases out in the in their in their hotel room. And I look in all theirsuitcases and they got like, the little ketchup packets and the salt and sugarsand all. I said, What is that? And stuff and they go, Hey, if you grew upin the Depression era You know, this stuff is valuable, and I'm like, we'renot in the Hera anymore. You don't need to take You got stuff at home. Theywould steal everything from, like, every restaurant we went to, like itwas crazy, but they loved it. My dad, him and his brother is like, You go totraining camp, and you have to be like, there's, like, protocols that youfollow, like their unwritten rules, Like family stays over here, you know,don't wander around within five minutes of training camp there, talking tocoaches. They're all over the field and the head coach. Gus, what are theydoing? I'm like, I don't know. They're hurting anybody. And he's like, No, but,you know, and I'm like, just cram them in. They'll do whatever you tell them.They're like, they're like she But that was, you know, they love the same way.My dad was always real proud, and and, uh, it was it was a really good guywith all that. All right, Now give me one of your your not so good story.Because I know you've got something just like because when your dad, whenit's coaching time Oh, man. Watch out. No, I would say, uh, like, uh, theworst experience I had with my dad was probably not even in the game. Wasprobably a practice. I remember one practice that, uh, he was just on me,you know? And I think, uh, see, that I was I was at the Boys and Girls Club.That's when my, you know, my dad was he worked at the Boys and Girls Club, andI played that. And so imagine your father being twice as hard on you aseverybody else just to show everybody else he has no favoritism towards you.So it was one day he would just on me, and I just was like, I couldn't take it anymore. So I quit.And, uh, So imagine quitting your dad's team, and you have to you have to getin the car with him on the way back home. So he was like, Oh, so you'regonna embarrass me? You gonna Where you gonna quit? The team. Quit teamembarrassed, you know. All right. He took I had a not a Nintendo at the time.He took it and broke it in front of my face. You know. Yeah, You embarrass me,broke it and then took it. And then I remember that my mom was like, What doyou do? And that costs a lot of money. I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Well, our dadmust have been pretty similar. My dad was coaching me and senior LittleLeague with my grandfather. Um, and I was pitching right, So it'sthe beginning of the inning. I walked the first batter there in the dugout,already screaming, screaming at me like throw it over the plate. Who cares ifhe gets it right? 2nd batter comes up ball ball. They like, Move Now. They'relike, halfway between the dugout on the third base line, and I'll never forgetthis. And so I throw another ball. They're screaming, Throw it over theplate. We can't pitch what? Whatever they're saying, you know, it's justgetting intense. So I walked the second guy. Third guy. First pitch is a ballNow. They're on the line, the third base line, like the foul line standingthere, yelling at me with all the other parents and everything. They'rescreaming at me, so throw two more pitches. They're justgoing crazy. Nobody's breaking them up. The referees aren't saying anything tothem or, you know, this is old school. So throw the ball, walked the guy.They're just going insane. And I put my glove down. Didn't say anything. I'mprobably crying at this point. I'm like, 12 years old. Put my glove down. Andluckily, I only lived like a mile from there and I walked home and my dad andmy grandfather didn't talk to me for two weeks. They were coaching our teamand I still go play and I'd sit. They...

...wouldn't talk to me. They never gave meanything for two weeks. And then finally it got better. But you know, Iknow how you feel when it comes to you through your parents coaching. It'stough sometimes. No, no. I mean, you already know, like, imagine dry thenight before the game. You know my dad, your dad talking to you. That's my daddid the night before the game talks to you in the morning. You wake up, you'reeating cereal was talking to you, Um, you know, towards driving towards thegame. He's talking to you at the game. He's yelling at you after the game.He's talking to you. And when you get home, he's talking to you. Just by theend of the day, you're just exhausted like Oh, gosh, you know? Well, you know,I'm playing in the NFL, right? And I'd call my dad after every game and it wasnever Hey, it was a great throw you through for the touchdown. It was, Whydid you throw those two interceptions like he was hard on me like it wasn'tabout positive stuff. It was always like, youknow, let's fix the negatives And that was tough. That was tough to deal withthat when you would call home. No. Definitely. Travis, we've got aquestion from Terrier Travis. What do you think about Bruins guard DavidSingleton and where he will end up in the NBA? Hashtag go Bruins. DavidSingleton. Hmm. I would say the top three players for U.C. L. A is Johnny Zuzang and and how I may, you know, those are like firstround picks. Yeah, and I don't really know what David Singleton for for forbasketball, where you get David Singleton from stereo chat with us andlet us know. All right, I got, I got I got another buddy of mine. Brett Lauren.I did his podcast. He has a podcast as well. Bret wants to know. He said, Hey,what's up, guys? Hey, I hope all is well. Ask Travis about when he was at UC L. A. And they played U N C. In 1997 they played Vince Carter. He'll know,Alright tells the Vince Carter story. Well, it's the same story I told on hisshow. I was on the bread show, so pretty much we're playing NorthCarolina is my very first game in college. Were playing in the AlaskanShootout. Uh, they had Vince Carter, Antwan Jamison, Brendan Haywood, likethree or 4 NBA guys on their team. So we're on. I'm on the bench werescreaming, You know, we're playing the zone or something like that. And sothey do like the the like, a lot of play the bench. You know, Vince's likeVince when he had, like, a 50 inch vertical at the time, he was crazy.Yeah, and, uh, what happened for him, was he They threw alive to them, andwe're unless they were up. It's like you know, 772 or whatever. Maybe 62.Whatever they throw alive to him, he catches it. And he didn't. He flushed,dunks it. And then he runs by our bitch laughing like, yeah, I'm not gonna win.We looked at each other like, man, we might not win, I guess. What? Peoplehave those skills, man. You're like, Whoa, Yeah, we saw that. It was like,uh yeah, and you can look at you can look it up on YouTube. It's on YouTube,like the game in North Carolina versus U C. L. A 1997 last shootout and youcan see his dunk and they can show him running back smiling. But he was like,Yeah, I'm not gonna win. We were like, Well, you know, the good thing I wouldsay about that, he probably did that to almost everybody he played Oh, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Not even question that question. Yeah, so Sothen you're at u C l A. You're there two years. What was the change to go toLong Beach State? Pretty much, you know, mean Coach Lavin didn't really see eyeto eye on playing time. You know pretty much the same old thing. I thought Ishould be playing more. Uh, he, you know, he was like, Well, you're goingto play more. You're going to play more.

And I thought, Well, I just want toplay somewhere consistent. I would have stayed to U C L A. If he said he wouldhave played me Say 25 to 30 minutes a game. But it was always, like, 25minutes and eight and 30 and four. I just couldn't get around. You did thetransfer portal portal before anybody started it. But my I'm so upset becauseyou have to sit out a year. You know all you did? Yeah. Back then you had tosit out a whole year in the transfer, so and if you went in conference, youwould have to sit out two years. Oh, my gosh. That's why I picked out aconference. Yeah, You have to pick out a conference because yeah, they don't.They don't want you to come back and buy them. Oh, yeah. Now, if you haveeligibility, go wherever you want and just, you know, it just rolls. It justrolls. Just rolls right through. Okay, let's see what Teri said. Teri said, uhhas played 94 games through three seasons. Made 20 starts, has averaged4.71.6 rebounds through three years. Has moved into number five, son.Useless career three point field goal percentage. Okay, I don't know whereshe's getting some numbers from somewhere. I tell her. Thank you forthat. But like I said, the main guys, the main guys, I know them. You know, Idon't know where he's gonna go as a start. Hey, in the NBA, just shooter. Iwould I would listen to Travis Terry because, um, he has a show you don'tbelieve on u C l A. So you know those guys in and out. He's a great shooter.Travis. Yeah, he was a great shooter, but like, he's a great shooter. I thinkin that system, he's a little one dimensional. Yeah. So you go to LongBeach State and what was that like for you adjusting when you left? U C l A.It was hard because it was a magic going from a major, major, major highprogram to a mid major. So, like the the perks and things like that you gofrom U C L. A is just different than one mistake Not saying obesity isterrible, but u c l A You can get, you know, more stuff more this more that,you know, you got to swag. Yeah, You get all that and then some of u C l aLong Beach. It wasn't that Long. Beach was, uh, you know, it's it's a littlebit more smaller. Yeah, Put it this way. You're throwing your own. Sh it in thewasher. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You better throw them inyourself. You see that? We had, like, six or seven. Like, say, you know, ballboys or, you know, guys who took care of right long, But she was one. So oneguy who had to do the whole team. So was it too, Like, Hey, my shoes aren'tfitting, right? Or they don't feel good. You have to be like six other pair.Long Beach State's like sorry. Yeah. No, it wasn't that bad, but it used todelay. It was they had they had we had, like, a like a gate, like a little backend. Your shoes are messed up your shoe laces messed up. Okay, Done. Get himanother pair of shoes. You know, this is that. Get him another pair of shoes.Get another pair of shorts, get them out of this and you'll be like, Okay,Long Beach, Uh, you might get to pair, you know, And that was that was prettymuch it. Right. So how many of your I'm assuming you had a lot of friends in L.A. Uh, would they go to a lot of games? They come watch you play? Oh, yeah,definitely. Uh, like I thought that Long beach, You know, for me, it was ashowcase to see, you know, like, because Long beach I played and started,you know, my whole career there and all my friends, they would come and visitand watch me play. Um, you know, because but, like when they're notplaying and, uh, like I said, I lobbies for me, it was just a great thingbecause I graduated college from Long Beach and I'm a I'm a Big West allfirst team both years and, uh, you know, give me a chance to continue my career,you know, professionally. So So you finish at Long Beach State. I'm notfamiliar with how the NBA kind of that whole process works. Like, obviously,we know about the one and done guys right? Those guys are there different.But there's so many other guys that...

...play college basketball and have hopesand dreams to go and play in the NBA. And I was talking to somebody the otherday and I said, Football is probably the only professional sport where youcan't go to another country besides Canada and play right. Baseball, hockey,all these other sports soccer. You can go overseas and play. So you ended upoverseas. So tell me that journey a little bit that that you know how yougot there? Well, pretty much what happened was my junior year. A friendof mine who was a senior, Uh, he got an agent who was overseas. Agent, uh, name.His name is Rock Lloyd. Uh, his. Actually, his son is one of the topplayers in the country right now. Um, he had an agent and saw his agent wentto see him, but saw me at a game as a junior. He was like, Who's that tallguy? That's my boy Travis. Just watching for is the senior year. So Ihad an agent hook up, you know, for overseas basketball already. Now whathappened for me was I had a couple of NBA teams looking at me, but they endup drafting a different guy, and the team that was most interested said youcan come to our what they call like summer league team. But they had, like,four or five guys in my position, and I'm like, I'm not gonna make the team.And I just went literally After I graduated college, I was like, Okay,should I try the N b A and maybe make it and go to the D League at the time?Because that's what it's called the D League. My friend told me it washorrible, Said the money wasn't great. And then you'll be staying in like atwo bedroom apartment with, like, 34 guys. Uh, that's like you want to get?Yeah, I was like, you know, you're making 2500 and I was like, man, I'drather go overseas and make money, you know? And, uh, literally, that sameagent that saw me said I can get you to bogota, Colombia for, like, 5000 amonth. Yeah, my first job. And I was like, Okay, I got my I got my passportin the summer. I graduated in May, and in June, I was overseas. Now, how hard was that for you? Notobviously. Basketball's basketball, Right? But connecting language, allthose things. That first experience for you. How hard was that? Now it'sinsanely hard, and every country is harder and harder. But like, you know,if you go to the same country, you start getting used to things. Um, but Iwould say my first experience in Bogota, Colombia. I remember the coach. We hada game and he talked, like, say, pregame stuff. And he talked for, like,15 minutes. And then I asked the my teammate who spoke English, and I waslike, what do you say now? Granny? I told you, talked with 15 minutes. Hesaid, get the ball to you inside, I said when he talked for 15 minutes, itwas, like, more or less. Get the ball to Travis. Get out the way. Get out theway. You're like, all right? I can deal with that. You don't need a language.Very well. Give me the ball. So if you would have had, like, the translator onyour phone that you have now, how much easier would that have been for you? Oh,my gosh. It would have been so much more easier living life. I really wishthat that was You know, the technology was then you know where I was there?Pretty much. I had to learn how to say, slow down and chicken in every singlecountry I knew I was gonna say You have to go out and eat. And I'm sure you'renot speaking English. No, no chicken, whatever chicken was, uh, you know,Pluto in, in both guitar. Connor Ela in in Estonia. You know, whatever countryI knew how to say chicken, did they ever bring you something that wasn'tchicken? Yes. They brought me in Bogota, Colombia. That's how I learned how tosay chicken. They brought me like fish with eyeballs in it. You know, likejust a regular fish, the whole fish.

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Yeah, like in Europe. It's like, prettymuch you get, you might stop in London. So that's 10 hours from California andfrom London to wherever is, like, you know, 34 hours, but, Um, yeah, most ofthe time, if you go straight 15 hours. So they had the NFL Europe for a whileand I never played in it, but we had some guys go over and tell me stories.Coaches kept practices a little shorter and things so guys can experience theculture, get out in town, see what it's like. What was that experience like foryou today? Give you time? Did you get to go out and see? Because, I mean,obviously you don't know all these places and you get to go out and walkaround. Uh, was that pretty cool for you? Oh, definitely. Like when you're aprofessional, you know? You know what it is? You have a lot of time andpretty much, you know, like in order for me this is just me. In order for meto survive and to like cope. I used to have a routine and my routine was Getup, Get early. You know, Get up early, get my breakfast. You know, go to theweight room, go lift or go shoot, um, at the gym. Come back home. Uh, take anap. You know, get up, eat my lunch, go. You know, go to practice, uh, and thencome back home and play some PlayStation. And so that was my routine,like daily, you know, uh, until the game days. You know? Then I had a gameday routine, but yeah, it was. But I had a lot of friends Who would, youknow, like on the weekends after the game, Stay on a Sunday, I would go outinto the town and see what's about for me all I was pretty simple. All Ineeded was like a mall, a movie theater, and, like, a nightclub. You know, likethose three. If I had those three, I was good. So you weren't interested inhistory like, Oh, there's a really cool site over here where this happened. Youknow, in the early 18 hundreds, I'm gonna go check it out like that. Thatwas not I was never That was I wish I would have done it now. But back then Iwas not like I remember when my, uh, my mom came. She visited me. She was like,You ain't going outside. I'm like Mama just went to the gym. I'm tired. I'mgoing home. She was like, I want to go somewhere I'm like So I had to theorganization take my mom around because she was hopeless and I was like, Mom, Iwant to sleep. I got practice. I'm going to sleep. What? So when you guyswould travel like, say, you're playing these teams and you you weren't in thesame place, you wouldn't play in the same place all the time. When you wouldtravel Was that bus was a train? What was kind of the or did you fly? What?What was mode of transportation? Mostly in Europe for you? Pretty much my team,the teams. I was almost pretty good. There were like top teams in the league,so we played in a couple of weeks. So, like to get around and say just examplefor Holland Hollande. We just took the bus around from place to place. Butwhen we win the championship in Holland, we played in what you call the HewlettCup. And what do you look up is is pretty much a league where you playlike the champions of other countries. So we went to Spain, We went to Italy,we went to Greece. We went to France, Germany, and play like the best teamsin their league. And then the best of the best go up to, like, the higherlevels of you know, of of the Europe Cup until, like the crowning champions.So we we've flown there, but like, pretty much you just take Busseseverywhere. Take Busses everywhere. Because I know that that Europe has agreat train system. Yeah, I'm always complaining that the United States wehave a terrible one. Oh, yeah. Compared to Europe. Yeah. Like for me, fromPittsburgh to Philly, where my daughter was going to school. It's like I candrive there in 4.5 hours. I can take the train and will take eight hourslike the one That's what I'm gonna do. You know it's crazy, right? Right,right, right. All right. Hey, Terry has another quote. What country had yourfavorite culture and why? Which country...

...do you miss? I would say Estonia I missEstonia because the people was super nice. Um, there they had a great partyculture, you know, great party culture. Um, even though, like it was freezing,it was at the Baltic tip. So? So it used to be part of USSR, but it brokeinto in his own country, but yeah, but people, they have a lot of fun outthere, and they love their basketball. So it was That was pretty much one ofthe coaches I missed. Now, as far as Holland goes, I missed the food, whichis weird. I really enjoyed Holly. Yeah, I really wish I was special about theirfood. Like what was it? I'll tell you, the funny thing was like the after clubfood. Uh, they had always had, like, this nice restaurant where you can eatreally good food. Really good Dutch food. But let's just say, for example,you just want to say something like that. But they had what they say. Theyhave this thing of, like, fries, right. Then you eat it with mayonnaise.Mayonnaise? Yeah. Hot mayonnaise. When you first saw your like, I was like,you know, I didn't do it for the whole first year. I didn't eat it. And thenmy teammate was like, big dude, Just try it. Trust me. And then I tried. Iwas like, It's not half bad, so right. Exactly. That's probably one of thelittle things. Definitely from Holland that I, you know, I miss and Australiajust the food. They just you know, the food they had. They were like theStates they had Burger King McDonald's 13 months later, subway straight. Hadeverything that we have here. Everything. Wait. So you didn't even goto the reef in Australia? You didn't check it out. It was another another.Another different. That was a different city. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you look atsome of the stuff in Australia as far as animals and everything they havedone. And you're like, Man, I don't know if I want to go out of thebuilding that I Well, I went to a crocodile farm. I actually atecrocodile. Yeah. Um, well, I mean, a lot of people do that here in theStates. Well, they were more in Louisiana and that way the alligatorand stuff. But was it bad? What do you think it was a mix between chicken andfish. It was okay. I wouldn't I wouldn't say. Oh, yeah, let's try acrocodile. It's tried, Tried it And that's pretty much done. Yeah, Thereyou go. Well, you know, it's pretty amazing that you get to go overseas andand trial, see all the different cultures. That was that a shock because,you know, Europe has these little countries and you go from one toanother and it's completely different how they treat different aspects oflife. Was that a Was that pretty cool to see? No, definitely. I would say themost beautiful place I've seen besides the United States, obviously is Spain.Barcelona, Spain, is I've had it back to where you live anywhere in the world.I would live in their Barcelona because it was beyond beautiful. Yeah, that itwas. And and and the people seem like they're genuine over there. No, no,definitely. Like they were really nice. Uh, they worship Rafael Nadal out theirworship him, you know, they have He has, like, a big, almost like a statue ofhimself out there. It's, uh but like, Barcelona is like insane. I love theBarcelona. It was really, really nice. Well, you know, they the sports, theyabsolutely love them. Like when you watch soccer matches and you see thepeople in the stands there going crazy like, um, now when they would comewatch you play basketball. What was it like in the in the arenas where youwould play? Oh, Oh, my gosh. I can We can talk about this for about an hour.Or the different arenas. How they have different stuff? Yeah, Yeah. Thecraziest place I played in a to crazy places. One was in Croatia. We playedthis team of Croatia where they actually smoked in the arena. Soimagine playing in the gym with this big smoke. Dust is over you and wecan't breathe. They're like coughing.

How they plan in this. How the teamplaying in this and like, I'm just like, how you're not breathing. Like God,they're smoking, like in the they're not even filtered either. There's justNo, no, no, it's It's just chain smoking, like lighting one up as one'sfinishing. And they're like, Wait, did you come out like, for warm ups andthey were smoking or just start the game? You know they were smoking assoon as we started the game like they were already pre game. Hey, I'm likeref, There's nothing like no smoking in the gym. There's no smoking sign. Thatwas one. And then the second place was Bogota Colombian rgm. We played in likea cage. So it's like, Imagine the court and then a cage, a fence around thecourt and you had a bad match. And so it was kind of like outside, but it wascovered. Uh, like the windows are open. So it'll be raining that night andpeople be they would open up tire flares and like they'd be singing anddoing the flares up in the air. And I'm like, Man, this is insane. This is Yeah.If you could have only had an iPhone to record all that like Oh, my God, Yeah,that have been cool. But like, they opened up like they say, like the firethey did, uh, singing. And like in Europe. And they have a different kindof passion because they sing and dance and just it's insane. It's insane. Soyou said your mom came over to see you. Did anybody else from your family. Come,come watch you play just my mom and my step mom, You know, for his family. Youknow, I had my girlfriend at the time. She came to live with me for, like ayear, but she just couldn't. She was born out of her mind because I wasgoing to practice and coming home, and, you know, she was just at the house allday, so she just couldn't take it. So she had to say, I gotta go back. Yeah,she's from Pasadena. So, like, yeah, California is unlike any other placesshe would have been from, like rural, you know, somewhere real, she wouldhave understood the slow pace. Yeah. I should have went to Long Beach State.Should have been like, Oh, this is, like top notch over here at Long BeachState. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. Hey, I went too tall, so I know allabout that stuff. You know, that's just how it is. So, um, you play for 10years? Uh, it sounds like you had a lot of fun. You had a great career.Obviously, you you were M v P. You did a lot of great things now when youwould go out in communities where you were playing, Did they recognize youfor all that? Like, did people say, Hey, there's Travis. Yeah. And in in, uh, inHolland. Especially because I stayed there the longest. I stayed there fouryears of my career. Um, you know, when we won the championship, You know, mysecond year over there, you know, like, the third year was kind of insane tothe documentary of the team. Uh, so we had cameras following us around thewhole time. Um, you know, people start naming babies. Their middle names wasTravis Dutch, baby. Yeah, I took so many pictures of babies with theirmiddle name was Travis, you know, and, uh, you know, some of the fans, youknow, actually sent me pictures of the kids because they're older now,obviously. But you don't remember when they were babies and, like the middlename was Travis. So it's kind of that's really cool. Yeah. So, like, in someplaces, it was they were just like Travis, you know, like they would theywould see Well, you know, like the States is way different, like they have.You have all kind of memorabilia for players. And you have obviously cardsthat people have. I have a ton of them. We collect them. What is that, likeover there? Do they have that kind of stuff for you? Like where fans can Hey,they have a picture of you, and you can sign it. Oh, yeah, like not as much inHolland, they had, you know, like T shirts or cards or whatever. In Estonia,they had actual jerseys that they sold in, uh, their version of foot locker,you know? Yeah. So I actually have one of them when they have, like, the readon the back, and the fans bought it. And so, like, I bought a Yeah, I boughta couple of them. Um, you know, they...

...had t shirts. They had all kind ofstuff. That was, uh, insane. Well, they had, like, when I saw a lot of thejerseys, right. They were like, um, It was like it wasn't like the team logo.I don't know, but it was like there were a lot of different logos on. Itwas all sponsorship kind of thing. That's how Europe is, like they wantthe NBA to eventually come to that. But the NBA is kind of like look, we justwant Lakers not like breakers and 50 sponsors all over, right? Right. Youknow, in Europe, it's like whatever sponsors, whoever the biggest sponsorare all over the jerseys. So in Croatia, when you play like the other team, justhad all kind of cigarettes, sponsors all other camel pay them the money.They can do whatever they want. Exactly. Exactly. You know, that was Gracia wasinsane. Yeah, I see you showed up. Hey, how youdoing, buddy? Uh, Tony, turn your camera, Michael, on you. Come on andask my man. Travis questions. So, Travis, I was going through. I wastrying to find some really cool pictures of you. Um and, uh, there'slike So this is an old one, right? U C l A. That was freshman year. U C l ARemember all these guys who are all these guys here? All right, I can go.Uh, let's see from me. Obviously, I'm the one on the far right. And then RicoHines, who is a coach for Sacramento Kings now, one of the time assistanceEarl Watson who number he played in the NBA for 16 years. Uh, now was a formerhead coach of Phoenix Suns. Now his assistant coach for Toronto Raptors.Steve Lavin was the coach. He, you know, works for Fox now, I believe BaronDavis, you know who's, you know, one of the probably the top one of the top ofCalifornia guards in California history. Play in the NBA for, like, 13 years.Two time all star. Um, you know, like I said, just one of the, you know, greattalents in California history, right? The reason why I do. My podcast. BillyKnight, God rest his soul. Um, he's, uh he played overseas 15 years or 14 years.We played overseas together. Yeah. You know, he just recently passed awayabout three years ago. Um, yeah. So, you know, like, he had a little bit ofa struggle to from that transition? Yeah, what we're talking about. Yeah.Transition from, you know, ball. You know, being professional basketballplayer to the after of everything else. And then, uh, tie. Ramasar is he's anagent. An NBA agent. So he's represented. Bearings represented Earl.He represents Paso CIA. Come which is NBA All Star So he has a lot of agents.A lot of draftees. Good guy. So do you stay in touch with these guys? Yeah, Ipretty much talk to him from time to time. Um, you know, all of them? Uh,not as much as Maybe I wouldn't want to, but I still keep in contact with EarlBarron and, you know, and laughing. And Rico and Todd, That's awesome. And thenI got one question with this is this Did your dad teach you this Shootinglike, uh, free throw? You gonna kiss the ball like I don't I don't know.Like, what was that? Might have been your your way? Because you seem likeyou gotta You gotta like a schedule like this is what I gotta do every time.No, no. Well, you don't. You probably can't see it now, but I broke my lefthand, and so it turns to the turns a little bit to the right. So I have tohave to kind of make sure my arm, it's like, you know, in in, in. So I was Iwas always close. The ball was to my lips a lot When I shot the free throw.So I tried to shoot it over my face even though I had a broken broken armwhere it kind of turns to the right. Really? Yeah, well, all right. So youwere talking a little bit about transition. We were talking about thatand you're telling your stories in the basketball life and I was reading aboutit. It's your story, but you bring...

...other people on to tell their story aswell. And, uh, you know, we all struggle with this kind of thing. Uh,as former players, not all of us get to go on and be in whatever the next jobcomes right up because we did something so specific, and it's hard to translatethat to business or whatever else you want to do. So tell me a little bitabout the basketball life that you're doing. Pretty much that was like thefirst podcast. Travel basketball like that was strictly about my 10 yearsoverseas. The show is called an athlete's journey, and pretty much whatit is is I interviewed former current athletes about their journeys from howthey started basketball. Did they play different sports? Um, from theirjourney to high school through college to professional ranks, but most like,But mostly it was for the after. Um, you know what happened after the thelights, you quote unquote get turned out and you become a regular, you know,if you want to say person, you know, for me, I play basketball from five allthe way to 33. That's 28 years of my life. And then so when I was 33, I justhad no idea. Like, what was my next move? I just was kind of like, Okay, Igot a son, I got responsibilities, and I got to figure out what the heck I'mgonna do. So it just took me a while. Like it takes a lot of other athletesawhile to kind of figure out what's their niches and what they want to do.Who did you go to for advice? Uh, pretty much. You know, I went like alot of family, a lot of family, my father pretty much a lot. And then, youknow, basically myself and God, you know, a lot of family. My mother Italked. My mother is very, uh, person that just inspirational. So she'salways like, baby, It's okay. You're gonna figure it out. She's alwaysgiving me confidence, you know? Yeah. Yeah. My dad has calmed down a lot. Youknow, as you know, as the older he's gotten, so he's like, you'll figure itout. You'll be okay. And so it was pretty much just dealing with family,dealing with those kind of things to figure out what was my next. My nextmove. Yeah. No, it is tough, right? Because I retired in 08. I played 15years in the NFL, and I remember I was thinking about retiring. And I wouldcall former players that I knew or that I was teammates with and and alreadyretired. I wanted to know what what? How did they decide to retire? And theyall said, Well, you'll know when you know. And I'm like, That's the answer,like I don't know, like, and it does. It's like, you know, when you know, I Ileft the Vikings, went to the Rams. They failed me in the physical. I was38 years old, gonna be 39. I was like, I'm done. It's like, been long enoughfried. I'm beat up and and wanted to move on. And then, like I, I started coaching because it'slike, What else? I don't know. What else do I do? Right? What else do I do?I know. It's like I got my PhD in football. Okay, You know what I mean.It's kind of how it is. So coaching seems like a very natural fit. Um, andI decided to coach my youngest son's sixth grade football team or seventhgrade, or whatever. It was like they were. And I was like, What are youdoing? This is nuts. They don't know one thing you're talking about, andneither did Dad's, right. All the dads were football. Coach is not exactlywhat I was talking about either. So I learned real quick that you got to kindof bring your what you're saying. Yeah, but it is tough. And then especiallylike, if you go to be a coach, unless you're like a top coach, you're notgonna make any money. You used to make money. You're raising a family. Uh, andthen you're trying to, you know, uh, we all have to figure out how to deal withthese things. And so for you did any of those teams? Did any of thoseorganizations help you with that after you were done? Pretty much. No, um, youknow, once, like in Europe, is just a different thing when it comes to like,you know, that in the states, pretty much Europe, I would say it's one isthe thing of whatever you make in Europe. Let's just say I made 100,000.That's you. That's what you make like.

There is no pension plan. There is nonothing. It's just whatever you do, whatever you make, that's what it is.If you spend all the money, that's it. Uh, now if you say you marry, you know,like if I married a Dutch girl and lived out there, maybe these teamswould have reached out. Maybe I'll try to be assistant culture because a lotof my former teammates and competitors, you know, they married, you know,European women and became coaches out there in Europe. But for me, thatwasn't the case. I came back to the States, and I just you know, I wentinto a bunch of jobs like sales, and I work for enterprise. Um, you know, Ijust had to figure out to generate some cash. So I can, you know, help helpprovide for my son and, uh, you know, Southern and what job I'm at now. Andsince I've been comfortable with this job, that's why I started the podcastand doing that other kind of stuff kind of to reach out because my son asked meabout, like, about a year ago. It's like Dad, you know, how was your lifeoverseas? And I told him, Son, that's a long and complicated answer And then,you know, and they wrapped my head for, like, a month, and then I was like,podcast. And so that's the podcast has turned into some into some other stuff.But yeah, it's like I said, like, it's been a tough transition. You know, Alot of my friends have said, Man, they hated, you know, basketball, you know,because of what it took from them. Yeah, well, I mean, football is the same way,and it's like once you're done, you're done in. The NFL is like, OK, he's analumni. We don't We can't help him anymore. He's not going to make us anymoney, you know, unless you're one of the top tier guys. But other than that,so do you. You know, we have NFL alumni. We have n f l p A. We have someorganizations that are doing more for for retired guys. Um, so as a probasketball player, are there any kind of organizations alumni that you can bea part of that are, you know, have other people that have had the samecareer as you? I probably could. I haven't looked into it, you know, Uh,you know, I know my dad is like, he's like, Man, you should join the u C L Al m Not and enjoying Long Beach State alumni was like, you should have joinedboth of them because you went to both schools, right? I was like, you know, Iwas like, Yeah, maybe I think I'm thinking about doing that. Haven't doneit yet, Uh, you know, because I was to be honest, I retracted myself from allthat. You know, I moved out of L. A, and I moved to Rancho. And that's kindof why I didn't want to be around. I didn't know how to deal with all thatyou know, um, so I just kind of retracted myself and kind of stay tomyself. Um, but now I think this is a little bit different for me. So I'mready. I'm ready for, you know, to join alumni Association. Probably bothschools. Well, you probably won't like me when I let you know I'm raising kids.You're You're kind of doing. They're going to school, and it's all aboutthem and your wife and your family. Um, and then you're trying to figure it out.Like, where do I fit in? In society now, right? Am I just a guy that people aregoing to recognize? And I signed an autograph every now and then or or, youknow, or sports card or something like or can I be productive and still, youknow, because when you retire, you were, what, 34? You said 33 33 Just turned.Basically 32 a half. Just turning 33. And I was 38 I'm like, and you feellike Okay, the word retired. Sounds like I'm old. I'm done. You've got alot of life left. And you have I mean, I'm 50 and I've been still trying tofigure it out. I mean, I love podcasts interviewing people like you, but, youknow, as we know, unless you're Joe Rogan or somebody else, you're notmaking a lot of money. Podcasting. You're you. And so you're still tryingto figure it out, and it's a tough It's a tough road when you're done. No, itis. It's been, you know? Yeah, you're 100% right. Like like you said. Unlessyou're Joe Rogan or Bill Simmons or...

...whatever. Like you speak, you know,interview people. Uh, you know, they make a lot of money, but, like, like,you know, like you said, Like, guys like us, we, uh not so much. I haven'tmade a dollar from these interviews yet, but hopefully in the future, thingsthat happen. But we'll see. I just enjoy doing it for now, you know,because when I retired Oh, I was gonna say, Yeah, when I retired, I didn'twant to retire. It was like, Okay, you're done. You know, like, no teamsis offering you the country. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, that's kind of how Iretired to write. You reach out, they don't really want you 38. Like thecoach goes on, we just want you to come and throw for minicamp. But I'm like Iplayed 15 years. I'm not your you know, I'm not just lackey out there. Doingwhat? That kind of stuff. I'm going to participate and be a part of the team,right? Yeah. So it has to be hard. So the podcasting, I would tell you, likeif you join the alumni's now you're podcasting, join organizations likethat. It's kind of connect you with more guests and more people that youcan reach out to. You know what I mean? Like, those kind of things willdefinitely help you with what you're doing, because I listen to some of yourshows and and they're really good. And it's people love hearing those stories,and I think that you can do such a good job with what you're you know, all ofyour shows because you do. On the belief network, you have to Yeah, Ihave to get to different shows. You what are the ones in U. C. L. A show? Ibelieve. Yeah. I believe in U C L. A Y. I co host with, uh, my my co host. Ofcourse. Sam. Sam, You know, me and him. We talk about U C l A. He's livingyounger than me, but I'm the former athlete who talks about it, and thenthe athletes journey is me just interviewing former athletes and thingslike that. Now you gotta get my buddy. My buddy Danny Farmer on there. Oh,yeah, man, I told you I wanted to get yourself Danny. For all former athleteswhen we all got to just beat us. Yeah, Danny was a big U C l A guy. Oh, yeah.He could definitely come on any time and played volleyball there, too. Didhe? Yeah, I think they won a championship there in volleyball likehe was. That man had hops. Oh, no. The volleyball. We used to see them whenthey would work out. Man, I was like they would play basketball. Theyreverse Duncan and you guys, you play basketball, man. We used to play thebasketball players at Tulsa. Like, you know, we'd get like, some footballplayers that can play. We go play, and I don't remember. Forget TracyScroggins. He was a defensive end. He played with us. He played in the leaguewith the Lions for a while. Um, and there was this basketball player and hewas like a skinny dude, right? Compared to football player Tracy comesdribbling down. He's standing there, and Tracy is He's about to 80. Justgoes up and dunks over him. And the basketball team is like, no, we're done.We're not playing you guys anymore. Yeah, I'm not surprised. Footballplayers, you know, like they're so physical. And it's so like, you know,you guys are so like jack. I know, and he just be like, man, this dude, gosh,he just beats me up. I don't want to play them guys. Yeah, that that was, uhthat was kind of the mantra. Like where it's kind of going. It's like, it'slike, seven on seven. But it's basketball, and we're just, you know,there's no rules out here. They don't like that very much. Very much. So.What else are you doing now? What else are you up to? You have You're doingthree different shows, which is amazing. Oh, yeah. Well, pretty much. My mainshow was an athlete's journey on the Belief Network um, I interviewed forLike I said, you know, I told you before former athletes about theirjourneys because I'm really interested to see what happens after, You know,people struggle like I did that they just move into the transition of thenext thing easy. Um, you know, everybody was like, you should coach,you should do this. And I'm like, I was never really the coaching type. Youknow, I just I didn't want to have to climb the ranks of the coaching becauseyou start at the bottom as a coach. Oh, yeah. You start at the bottom. You knowwhat? I sound, too? Is that when I...

...started coaching a little bit like Icoached high school for a while and then I would get done and go home. AndI'm like, Man, I was just my dad today, like yelling at kids like like, therewas only one way they knew. And I'm like, I don't want to do that Like it.I don't want to be like that. Like he was tough, like, you know, our dadswere tough. That's how they were. That's what they you know. And I didn'twant to be like that. It was hard coaching. No, no, that comes out of you.It does. I mean, when I trained my son, I used to people that want to coachyour son. I'm like, I'm so hard on when I train them. So imagine if I coachedthem. You know, I'd be yelling them hard, and I'll be, like, he'd be like,I don't know. You know Dad. Dad. All right, all right. You know, like, no,you need to do it like this because you're so passionate about it, becauseyou want them to do well, and you want them to be you. But only you can be you.And you know, so coaching wasn't my thing. But, like, for me, I think mything is like interviewing people talking in the one on one setting.Kinda like this or a group setting. Just letting people Oh, you know, mystruggles. My good, my bad. Uh, yeah. And so just to get back on the show islike the I have a u. C l. A show on the belief network as well. Um, it comesout every month, every Monday. My my athletes journey comes out everyTuesday on Spotify, our radio et cetera. Yeah. Now, are you doing everythingfrom home or you? You're gonna go on location? No, no. Everything from home.We haven't, uh, you know, I wanted to be able to I started out on the YouTube,you know, things like in studio, But, you know, But when Covid hit is, Ihaven't been able to get back in the studio, so yeah. No, it's it's hard. Iused to do it in the studio. Now I'm, like, just walk upstairs to do it in ahangout room. You know, it's pretty easy that you can do these things andtalk to people all over the world. No, no, definitely, definitely. I'veinterviewed people in Holland in Florida, you know, back east, you know,everywhere. So for me, it's, you know, it's easier to do it this way. Youdon't You know that way. Uh, just, uh you don't have to plan as much. You canjust Alright. We planted this day this time is knocking out, you know, right?Yeah. Now I hear you. So let all of our audience and listeners know where theycan find you and where they can come and listen to your show and athletesjourney pretty much you can find, uh, an athlete's journey on Spotify. Uh,just typing Travis Reed and podcast and u C l A believe, uh, you know, believein U c l a on Spotify as well. Type in my name. Both will come up as well asthe travesty the basketball life. Um, also, if you follow me at on instagramat Travis W re, um, And on Facebook, Travis W read you Can I post all mysocial? You know, all my next things that's coming in my, you know, up forme, all my shows, I post them all on on on my social media platforms. Yeah, Doyou like? I mean, it's a lot of work, right? Posting doing all that every day.Oh, yeah, like the post things every day. You know, make sure, like, youknow, the show is coming up because I have to, you know, do the show. I sendit. You know, my brother helped me edit it. Uh, then he, you know, sends itback. And so then I have to put in the system and then a post on Spotify. He'sjust like a big thing, you know, like you're doing it all yourself. How tallis your brother? My brother is only 5857. What? He's got all the genes?Yeah, pretty much. We're brothers. I saw the milkman. It was not him. Um,yeah, but, uh, yeah, like it's weird because I'm 67 or 68. My sister is a 58.I have an older brother who's six ft and then my brother's 57, uh, his sisters older than him, too,huh? Yeah, she's tall in them. She's younger than him and calling him. Sodid he, like, had a little complex...

...growing up like, Well, they alwaysshould call this. What's the movie Twins with Danny? Uh oh. And ArnoldSchwarzenegger. Like how? Like we were brothers. But he was here, and I was,you know, right there. But no, he's a He's a great guy, you know, like he'sin the more behind the scenes technical stuff where I'm like I'm the safe, Iwant to say the face. Yeah, that's good to have that because the technicalstuff as we found out to start the show, it's not the easiest. Oh, Yeah. Gosh.Agreed. Agreed. All right, Chaz. Man, I appreciate you coming on with me. Goenjoy that. L a son. I think it's going down to 32 here in Pittsburgh tonight.So I wish I was out there with you, Uh, and we can go hang out and shoot. It'sprobably what, 75 out there today? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, it's actually, thefunny thing is, the sun is still out. It's about five o'clock here. So almostfive. So, yeah, you know, it's all good stuff, all right, But, hey, Iappreciate it. Let me know. I'll come on any time you want me to. Uh, yeah,definitely. Definitely. Want to bring your own guts to my show? I think yourjourneys. I used to watch people like I used to watch us play football, man. SoI was like, Yeah, you're young and old. All right, man. Hey, uh, and the otherthing, I definitely got to come out because I got to get in and out. Burger.I haven't had one since I played the Raiders in Oakland last time. Oh, yeah.You gotta get in and out and you got to get fat burger. You know which one'sbetter? My opinion. Fatburger Been in and outmore commercial. Oh really? Yeah. Fatburger is better. Bigger burger.Trust me. Go to Fatburger. You will love it. So how do you say? I don'tknow what language they would speak down in Bogota, Colombia? Yeah, theyspeak, uh, speak Spanish, but it's a different form of So how would they sayFatburger? You got me. I didn't forgot All mySpanish is set the chicken. I know every language. Slow down and chicken.That's funny. That's funny. Alright, Alright, guys. Thank you for joining meand everyone. That was another episode of Huddle up with Gus. I appreciate youjoining me here. Thanks to 16. 31 digital news for always sharing ourcontent, Our great platform super here. And also, uh, where we host our podcastsounder dot f m. You can listen to us at huddle up with Gus, um, rebuildingthe website. You can check us out there, huddle up with gus dot com and you canlisten wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts and you can come andcheck out all our great guests like Travis Free Travis. Thank you so much Ilook forward to catching up with you again and let me know I'm ready. Allright. Well, any time. Just like I said, man. Bring your own man. We're gonnaWe're gonna definitely have a good time. And I'm gonna go look up that VinceCarter dunk right now. Look up the Vince Carter dunk. I might post it onmy on my instagram just to show everybody like I said, Travis, W readon instagram. Um, but, like Vince is like he dug said that he's laughing.He's laughing. He's talking to our bitch. That's That's a great littletiktok you put up. This is what Vince Carter used to do to all of us. Yeah,that's perfect. Alright, man, have a great night. We'll talk to you soon.Thanks. Thanks. I appreciate it. That's a wrap sports fan. Thanks for joiningin the fun at the 60 to 31 Digital studios for another to huddle up withGus, featuring 15 year NFL quarterback Gus Parent Huddle up with Gus, isproudly produced by 16 31 digital media and is available on Apple music.

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