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Randy Cross

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Three time Super Bowl Champion Randy Cross, who played for both UCLA, and the San Francisco 49'ers joins me in the huddle to discuss how sports has shaped his life. I love the fact that he never lifted until he played professionally.  Can't do that nowadays. Here are some of his stats and also what he is doing below. Was a state shot-put champion in high school. Was named All-America twice at UCLA; helped the Bruins defeat top-ranked Ohio State in the 1976 Rose Bowl. Was drafted in the second round of the 1976 NFL draft by the San Francisco 49ers. Made the Pro Bowl three times and played on three Super Bowl-winning teams. Final game as player was Super Bowl XXIII in 1989. Has worked as an analyst for CBS, NBC and Sirius Radio. Hosts the Randy Cross Invitational golf tournament, which has raised millions of dollars for the Stanford, Cal., Ronald McDonald House. Was selected in the 2010 class for the College Football Hall of Fame. Randy Cross is a veteran football analyst who joined CBS Sports Network in 2009. He calls select college football games and also serves as a studio analyst on the Network's weekly roundtable show INSIDE COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Cross previously worked for CBS as an NFL game analyst from 1989-93. He returned to the NFL ON CBS from 1998-2009 as a game analyst and studio analyst for three years with THE NFL TODAY. Cross has covered the NFC Divisional Playoffs and Championship games, as well as Super Bowl XXVI. He also served as an analyst for CBS Sports Radio’s coverage of Super Bowl XXIV. During the Network's coverage of Super Bowl XLI, Cross reported during the pre-game show from Baghdad with coverage of American soldiers who were serving in the Iraq War. Following Cross’s earlier tenure at CBS Sports, he spent four years at NBC Sports as an analyst for its NFL broadcasts. He also served as an analyst for select Notre Dame games, including the 1995 Fiesta Bowl and also as a reporter for Super Bowl XXXII.   Check out more about Randy and listen to his podcast...https://www.randycross.com   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey everyone, we appreciate you joining us in the huddle. I'm your host, fifteen year NFL quarterback, gusts fraud, alongside my longtime friend and Co host Dave Hagar, where we talked to guests about how sports shape their life. Be sure to check us out on our website. How do up with Gustscom, where you can listen to more episodes just like this. Now let's join the huddle. Hey everyone, guess fraud here. Welcome to another episode of Huddle up with guests. You know, you could find us on huddle up with guestscom or, and also you can go to Radiocom or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. You can also find us on sixteen thirty one digital newscom. So today's guests. As you see, I'm going to be driving this bus solo today, so I'll have a lot of questions for our guests today. He played my favorite position, even though I was a quarterback. These are the guys I always hung out with when I played the game, because they were the most fun, they drank the most beer, they had the most fun when we went out and you know, I guess I was always closest to them. In practice and in the locker room. So today joining me is three times super bowl champion. He's a rose bowl champion, you know, he's been an analyst for football for a very long time. He loves the game, you know, he just has an experience that I've always admire, you know, and he got to do a lot of things that I never got to, like go to a super bowl. So joining me today in the Huddle forers, first year center. Then the rest of his time he played guard. Joining me is Randy Cross. Randy, how are you doing? I'm doing great, guys. Thanks, man, for sure. Yeah, you know, it's so exciting. I mean all every team I played for. I played for seven teams, you know, and I'm kind of jealous that you got to play with one team. I wonder what my career would have been, I like if I would have just played for one. But you played for thirteen years as a lineman. That's pretty amazing. Yeah, it was, and actually it was all sort of totally kind of I wouldn't say I'm mistake, but it was pretty random that I end up playing football, well really at all, but especially up to that level. Yeah, you know, it is amazing that and you don't see it that often where guys say with the same teams throughout their whole career, even the great ones as you played with, you know, probably one of the goats of all time in Joe Montana, even left and went to another team, and you know you see that quite often in the NFL. But guys want to continue their careers and teams are kind of Said, okay, we've had enough, we're going to move on somebody younger and better. As as we know, there's always younger and better coming out and gunning for our spots. But really, let's get to when you were young, and you know you were born in New York. You moved to California at some point in your life and then you lived in southern California. Tell me about the first time really where you fell in love with sports. Was it an idol you had, was a watching a team or was it your family? Well, I was. I was a big baseball guy. I started playing baseball. Yeah, I'm was like five years old, playing tea ball and all that at Tarzan a little league in the San Fernando Valley. So I mainly played baseball up until high school. I that's that was my whole deal. I mean I played little league and I played Tony League and I played cold league, played American Legion and it was, you know, I was I was pretty sure I was really good at it. They in my mind now I was. It was fun for me. Sandy Kofax was my kind of boyhood idol. Right, I was. I was born in Brooklyn and grew up in lay. Yeah, my dad was an actor, so we were based in New York and then we moved to Los Angeles and, coincidentally, so did the dodgers. But right, yeah, that was sort of my whole thing. I was baseball the time. So did you play with your dad in the backyard a lot or just kind of to have neighborhood buddies she played with? Because we, you know, back in the S and S, when I grew up and you grew up is is, it was backyard stuff, you know. It's like dad came up from where, we played in the backyard or we went out with our buddies. There was no real organization for us for a long time. Even a little league was a little bit and you got some coaching there. But man, most of my experiences that were great. We're in the backyard. Did you have a lot of those kind of experiences growing up? Yeah, yeah, exactly. We had a real long driveway and you know, we had a hoop set up on the garage and the driveway went down at this gate, which is probably,...

I don't about a hundred and twenty feet. I mean it was pretty good size, pretty good. So we do always played catch, baseball or football or whatever there and did a did a lot of that. Got A lot of my early scarring there. Yeah, one of our more memorable moments was having my I came from seven kids. I had four younger sisters and a brother, and I had one of my younger sisters throwing me tennis balls and I'm hitting balls and I'm hitting balls and that she throws me like it's a small ball, but it's still a small rubber ball and I think it's baseball bat and I Bam, I hit this thing and it bounces off, this ball comes right back and I just start bleeding like a stuck are and there's blood everywhere. My mom kind of freaked out, but of course this was, you know, probably what sixty two or something like that, sixty three right. We a hospital. My Mom made butterfly stitches out of band AIDS and that's why I had our side of my eye there for about a week. Well that, you know, that's kind of all the experiences we had when we were young. was, you know, going on in the in just finding all your buddies and we found a field. We played football, baseball, we played basketball. I mean those are the three sports we've played. I remember we used to sneak into the football field when track was set up and we used to do high jumps on our own because they had all the mats out, and we'd have wrestling tournaments and then we'd be you know, I was, I was always Andre the giant, because I was the biggest kid in my neighborhood, but you know, I should have been Hulkogan instead. But I mean what I think it's different. I think it's so different nowadays with kids, and I don't know if you've seen that or notice. I mean you're still involved in sports and athletics as well. Tell me about your experience of seeing that compared to when you grew up and when we grew up, and how that difference has changed. Today it's as much of a sports thing as it is a societal thing as it is a parenting thing. You know, not only my yard and I had probably four or five good buddies that lived in pretty close proxy sibody to my house, but we had a great park that was about a quarter of a mile away, maybe a third of a mile. So we did everything there. That's where we you know, they had baseball fields, they had a huge football field. You know, played my first unofficial tackle football and about the about the middle school junior high period of my life. But yeah, always had that park and that was we did everything that way. And if I tell you there's one term that comes to mind and I think of that Park, and you won't ever hear a parent say this to their kid, and that is, whatever you do, be home before dark. What time to have to be home? If it's dark, you're in trouble. If it's not dark, it's this time to eat dinner. Rightly, it's not the specific it was go ahead, Hey, I'm going to the park. Good, be home for dark. All right, I can do that. You know in La that's eight o'clock. It right. Right. Well, that mine was the fire whistle. We had the fire whist on our in our small town when I grow up Pennsylvania, and Dad said that fire whistle blows at nine, you better be in the door, you know. And then we all had that kind of thing growing up with our parents, right and even like when I went to I went to Catholic school growing up, you know, and then, yeah, the I had some really outrageous nuns who loved big rulers and paddles and but I was more scared of going home to see my dad than I was of those nuns. I'll tell you that you are a smart kid. That's why I I don't know about that, but yeah, I know where my socalled bread was buttered, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, well, I know I had a little bit of the same thing. I went to Catholic schools earlier, then public school for a period and then my dad had the ingenious idea that I was going to go to Catholic all boys high school, which didn't go over real well with me when I was tell about it. But you know, that's that's sort of where my organized sport life sort of sort of started, especially football. Yeah, yeah, you know all that. See, I see that organized for me was I couldn't be who I wanted to be anymore like. I always was willie stargeel or Dave Parker or, you know, one of the pirates, or I was Terry Bradshaw out there playing, you know, when I was in the thing. Then you get to organized and you couldn't be those guys anymore. You had to be yourself, and so that's all I always saw the difference as for me, you know, because if you're up there in little, you know, organized sports and you're trying to swing like Willie Stargel, the coach would rip your head off, you know. So you have kind...

...of figure out who you were. So you were always Sandy Kofax, I'm sure, when you were playing baseball, and then we have to organ to hate you better be. I was still Sandy Kofax, right. I mean right my dad. My Dad had the idea when I was about twelve that I needed to start playing football. I had always played baseball and it was hack. It was right after all stars that year and he asked me if I wanted to play football and I was like I'll give it a shot, and I've never done it. So we go to this tryout thing and they say way you and they measure you as pop warner, and you know, and I was one of those kids that I'd alternate between fat or Pudgy and or as I used to refer to us, and we bought our clothes back then. We were, you know, full sized, but I was, you know, it was twelve years old and they said, well, you're gonna have to play with like the fourteen year olds. Why wouldn't want to do that? I got no idea what I'm doing right and I told my dad I said now I'm good, I'll stay in baseball, I'll be I'll be all right. What's kind of funny, I was the same way because I played in seventh grade and went and played, as they called it, you know, this was before we went to middle school, but you try try out. I was, I guess it was midget football. You know, it's the use that youth now, but I remember I'm playing guard and I got my ass kicked and man, I I did not want I just didn't like the game at that point. Didn't want to be there. You know, my dad just kept you're going, you're going next year, you know, in eighth grade, go to high school. Your kind of in that middle school and and go to the team and try out to again. I broke my foot and dad's like, you're playing no matter what. I just bought you a new cleatue Tiem tighter, and it's just like my first couple of years of football was tough experience. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Now for me it was, like I said, my dad had back in, back in these days, every grade he started in, be in the second semester, was the a level I would I had just gone through like be nine, which was middle school junior high back then. My Dad says we're you're going to go to play as Krescy Carmelite high school and not far from where we lived, and I said no, I'm not going, and he goes, look, you go, I'll take you to take the test. They do. You have to. You have to have an entrance exam and if you do well and they let you in, we're gonna have to talk about it, because I want you to go there. All right. So I went and took my test and man, I thought I bombed it. I did everything I could. I mean I was just checking letters and boxes and yeah, I write and, as fate would allow, I got like a ninety on a test. So then and now I'm now not only do I have to play, I have to go to this high school. My Dad says, you know, I got a great idea. You don't know anybody at this high school. I said, yeah, I know nobody. He Says Golf, football. You know, there's ninety something guys in your freshman class. Asks half of them were playing football. So you'll learn you'll get to know half two guys in your in your freshman class, just from playing football. All right, I'll do that. And back then, guess I was a quarterback. Wow, nice, because I would play right. Baseball players were naturally the quarterback I was. I was a picture in a catcher in baseball. Yeah, yeah, so so it makes sense that you know you probably could wing it and you just out there. They're going to put the guy to throw the ball out there. I could throw. That lasted all about one and a half practices in high school at Ninth Grade, because the start of my ninth grade year I was five. I think I was five eight and wait about a hundred and eighty five towns. So I was stocky, as we used to say, and a freshman year I was six one in a hundred ninety, you know. So I I spent my whole freshman year playing sports, going to school and laying on heating pads right and no kidd no kidding, I mean I grew six inches from eight to ninth grade. So I literally know your pain was. As they say that. My Dad used to say it you'll get over it, you'll grow out of it. I'm like, I think I'm growing into it. It did. It's not going away, you know, and just some you had to deal with grow when you grow so fast. Yeah, I was. It was interesting. But what was that conversation for you when you when the coach came and said, you know, I think we're going to move you from quarterback to another position? What do you remember? That like saying, I don't really know if I want to do this. Well, yeah, I was. I was at this point. I'd made my way from the fifth string quarterback to the third string quarterback, and the coach came up to me and said, so, do you like to you like this game?...

Do you enjoy it? I kind of, yeah, I do. He goes a little. Do you want to actually play? And I looked at him I said, Dr I want to play? Yeah, of course I want to play. He goes, well, I don't think you're going to play a quarterback, but if you moved offensive line or defensive line, you're going to play because you're pretty good sized kid. I looked at USAID, Huh okay, he goes, okay, maybe you take your pick. I said I want to play defensive end and he goes well, why defensive end? I said, I just don't like offense. Right. Yeah, so I played mainly defense in high school. So did you play both ways? You just play mainly defensive. You have enough kids. Shoot. My junior year I played both ways. My sophomore year I played a little bit, offense a little bit, but mainly defense. My senior I played all the defense. So what were your sports in high school? Well, I started throwing the shot put just sort of do something in the spring because you know I'm right. Before in the ninth grade I've been playing legion ball through my shoulder out and mess it up pretty good. In fact, in later years I would find out they called it a torn rotator cuff back then. Right are now. Then it was you threw your shoulder out, but I told my rotator and I just decide what the heck, I'll go off for track and I'll try shot put. So I tried the shot put and did really, really well at it. Freshman year. I threw, you know, through it pretty well, but then it was only like an eight pound shot. They don't start you with a big heavy one. But I really enjoyed it. So that's something I did all through high school. Well, I mean, you still hold the record at the high school correct yeah, yeah, I want. I eventually won the state as a senior. Junior, I was third senior, I was first. Yeah, it was, it was, it was. It was pretty interesting. I had a great coach, my athletic director and head track coach and the shot put coach for guys. That really influenced me sports wise and, you know, work ethic wise, what it took to be really good at something. II. They never, we never lifted weights. I was all technique. It was all speed. It was all doing things as quickly an explosive as possible. So I threw the twelve pound shot in high school like sixty seven, sixty eight feet one to stay out in California. And actually most of my college scholarships were dual. They were football and track. A couple of the couple of school like Alabama and Nebraska, they were football only, but you know, Texas and Ucla and USC those were dual. Those are dual. And you know, if you think about throwing a shot put at twelve pound, shot put twenty two and that around twenty two yards, I mean just in football sense. You know we're Talking About Yeah, me pee, sixty seven feet sounds I mean that's an amazing long way. And then just throwing a twenty two yards is crazy, probably twenty three. But to hold that record so that you talked about having a torn rotator. So that didn't affect your rotator at all when you throw shot Nah. Now. Well, the shot is is in here. You're holding anything right there, and I mean you're you're doing this, it's in. It's like an inner inward press when you're doing it and if you do it the right way, especially the old way, because now when you watch shot putters, they throw like a discus thrower. Right get back there and they rock and they go around in a circle and they throw it and a lot of really cool sent tripical force. But it with us, it was I can't remember the name of it, but it was a slide at a famous shot putter by Animer, Randy Matson, had really popularized it. He'd want a gold medal or to you know. So that was how they till you throw discus or anything else. You didn't try. They didn't have no like no, our our area and track and field was way too small. We have barely had room for a shot put area, much less I really know it. I know I remember in my high school we had javelin and the coach want to me come out through javelin. I mean, I don't even think they have a high school sports anymore, do they? I mean I think Dave's up kind of outlawed these. Some states do, some states do I'm not really positive. Given the mental makeup of most fifteen to eighteen year old Maleles, I would give them a long...

...shark sharp object to throw around around other remons in that the truth. You never know where that thing is going. I mean I think I try to throw one time and I hit myself in the back of the head when I let it go and I said Nope, I'm done, I'll stick to a baseball and football. So so you're in. You you're playing both. What was that recruiting process like for you? I mean you're getting recruited in in track and field and football. Why choose just football? Um, well, I I mean I went to you seel with every intention of doing both. In fact, I actually went out that spring. I missed spring my freshman year because I was on the track team. Miss good bit of practice because I was practicing for the shot with track, which was fine with me. I had figured out right I could throw the shot and not do spring ball and that sounded like a pretty good bargain. And that's the only plan. Yeah, yeah, anybody has been through spring football now is it's nothing fun about that. But I threw it, you know, I threw the shot, the sixteen pound, the big one, over sixty feet my freshman year in college. What little I threw. But they wanted me to lift a lot of weights. And she's going to imagine shot putters earlier. They are stacked. Yeah, and you know this sounds just stupid and and sometimes a little funny, but every time I lifted weights I got incredibly sore and if I stopped lifting weights the sores went away. So I figured out pretty fast if I don't lift I don't get sore. So I didn't lift weight. I didn't lift weights and high school I didn't lift weights in college. I didn't really start lifting weights until after, right about my second year in the NFL. So how did you maintain any kind of did you do other things? Did you did you have like a stretching routine? Did you just do pushups? It up, so, you know, like the whole hurtle Walker thing, or how did you renthing anything? I mean because playing alignement position you got to have some strength. Yeah, I was. I was naturally pretty strong. I always had really good technique and I was very explosive. So that helped. I never missed it. I didn't. I never had the feeling that there was something that I was missing out on if I wasn't if I wasn't lifting. We had plenty of guys on the team that were, you know, they could lift one side of the building and I could block them. But so even when I got to the pros, I mean my first I was drafted by a guy named Monty Clark who was the head coach at San Francisco then later Detroit, but he'd been the old line coach for shoeless famous dolphins teams. So I go up after the draft and have a press conference and then we have a mini camp and the first thing they do is you go in the locker in the weight room and they're going to test you. They're going to see how you how you lift, how you do pull ups, Chin ups, those kinds of things, and then we're going to got on a forty. Well, I did. I did two repsent through a quarter. I'd really seriously had really rarely to ever lift it. I did want. I did one pull up, the two Chin ups and I'm walking out of the line locker room until and he looks at me and goes hey, and I go over and say yeah, coach was up. He goes, are you trying to get me fire? So what do you mean? He goes that that's not real right. You didn't really just do two reps. it to it accord or I said, I don't lift ways and he goes I am going to get fired and I he said you'd better run a good forty and I ran like a f eight or forty, five forty and I got down with that. He looked at me and goes okay, now I'm not getting fired. Now remember why drafted you? You could. Yeah, well, I mean obviously they watch film on You, they knew who you were and they probably understood. They talked to the coaches and they had to have an understanding that you didn't do that in college either. I mean today, obviously that would you know, coaches would go insane if you didn't lift weights. But you know, I think that that just is a testament to talent. You just had, you know, crazy God given talent that you were able to use and go out and perform. So, you know, as my kids call it all the time, it's just old you had old man strength when you were young. You know that you could go and do that and you had you had the good ta eating. Get thrown around. You know he's going. It took one season of going against, you know, Wililan are and Merlin Olson and Alan Age and some...

...of the old timers that were still in the NFL when I got there, coite Bacon right one year of that curly, curly culp I've got a nice scar right here in my kid from where he split me open. I got done with that year and I got to the offseason and I decided, you know, what you might want to start lifting weights just a little bit. See if this see if this weight stuff really is what it's made up to be. So then it's so hard because you said you when you should wait at sorted. You kind of get past all that. Well, yeah, after I did that, the funny thing is we got right about that time, we got a strength and additioning coach. Actually, his name is Alf for meal, Dick for meals. Younger brother, okay, AL, was amazed and all we did was Olympics lifting, and that's something that kind of a kind of appeal to me. It was all technique, it was all quickness, it was all you know, you're doing the cleaning jerk and snatch and all that. There's all this other stuff and I kind of liked so I got pretty good. Well, they say that's the best lift you can do as an athlete. Is You know, it's do a full clean where you you bring it up and use front squatt and then press it over your head. I mean that's the total workout. And you know, I've been through a lot of Olympic lifting coaches as well. You know, I wasn't crazy as a quarterback about when you got to do the wide grip and snatch it over your head and never felt good on my shoulders. But you know, they're as I did. I used to. I got to the point where I was doing snatches specifically and the overhead pretty heavy. You know, me really three in the three hundred and fifty range for the overhead or, you know, real five, three hundred five on the snatch. I replaced both my shoulders consequent. I mean subsequently here as as a sprint citizen, I have two titanium shoulders. So did you notice a difference right from from the first year? Then you start doing some Olympic lifting? Was it a big difference, because you obviously had the technique in the skill set to play guard and Lineman, but did you notice a difference and how that strength and that muscle that was added to your body? When, when, then, you were able to go up against those defensive players? Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. It's it was all worth it. Plus, you know, I moved quicker, your steer legs is stronger, your your your core area is so much stronger. It correlated very, very well, translated well to to playing, you know, playing lineman. It was I'm glad I did it and I think, you know, not doing it before then, you know, might have taken a lot of wear and tear off my body. That maybe that's one of the reasons I lasted as long as I did, right, but yeah, it was it was an interesting setup. Hey everyone, I want to thank you for listening to a huddle up with gusts. We're joined by Randy Cross. We're going to take a little quick break here. We'll be right back and I got some great questions for Randy coming up, so stay tuned. Hey listeners, thanks for joining David I in the huddle. We invite you to join our excusive huddle through Patreon, where you can get access to content made just for VIPs like yourself. Head to our website, huddle up with Gustscom and hit support our podcast on the pop up ad once again. That's huddle up with gustcom. Now let's get back in the huddle. Hey everyone, we're back in the huddle. Joining me today is Randy Cross. You know you can. I really appreciate everyone listening to our podcast over the last year and a half and we've had some great guests. Three times will champion today. Randy Cross. I have a few questions for him about his relationship with his quarterback. So, Randy, I you know my relationship was always really close with my line and I loved doing everything with my line and going out with them. I have some really good stories with my linement. I have some really bad stories we probably can't tell on the air with my line. And so tell some good stories that you have with with your quarterback over those years. Yeah, well, you know, Joe got there. Joe Montana got to San Francisco the same time. builded build drafted him in seventy nine and Joe wouldn't even start. Joe Was the backup to Steve De Bird for a while. Right and and bill basically...

...wasn't putting any pressure on him. Let him kind of develop and would actually design certain red zone and specific plays in parts of the field would be part of our game plan. So Steve was the starter. Steve ran the offense. Joe Was the backup who got to play, which worked out pretty well. Joe, Joe is good guy, really interesting. Wasn't a real loud, bragadocious kind of person, you know, pretty calm, pretty, pretty cool. One of the only people I ever competed with played with. That really seemed like he got calmer and his heartbeat slower. Sort of the later in the game and the more important things got, he got cooler, he got relaxed. Right. So you thought that pretty early. I mean back in the seventy nine or so we were in training camp he started running the offense and we had been the year before the reason Bill Walsh got hired. We were the worst team in the late we were two and four team, right. We really, we really sucked. The next year we could run, we move the ball offensively and we're running bills offense. Even in training camp. You go on, Hey, this is pretty cool. These plays work. He knows we're open game as one, nothing like but our defense we couldn't play dead. So we knew every week we had scored thirty five to forty points and we didn't get up in that area, we had no, no chance of winning a game. So we were two, fourteen to ten that year. But and Joe got some playing time and then got more playing time the next year and eighty as a soul start and he actually until that Buffalo Houston playoff game where they came back from what thirty one points down? Right. We were down at half time to the saints, Thirty five two seven. It's by midseason archt manning was a quarterback to date myself of the same we were down thirty five to seven at the half and we came back and beat him in regulation. Three thousand eight hundred thirty five. Wow, yeah, I read at a half. Anyway, they played, they played pretty decent and we just scar every time we got the ball. Right what you had to write, and that makes it fun. I mean those, those are the Games you remember, you know, even if you would a lost, they gave you to proud of. Just remembered that, the emotions that went in through that game, because I've had plenty of games like that. Well, you gues, you know that's like money in the bank, though, for it, for a team, and we had a group of guys. That group, that offensive group, outside of maybe two guys, was the same offensive group that won the super bowl the next year, right, and and would go on and win another one in a couple of years. Right. But once you have to have that experience, you have to have that coming back from fourteen with three minutes to go in the game or coming back from three touchdowns down in the fourth quarter or something for future reference, so that you never really get to geeked out about day down. You know, you right. There's always better what you are you there's always a way to do it, and I think from that point on we never gotten a game that we were down there we didn't think there are somehow, some way. The math. So well, you build trust. I think that's what it comes down to, that you build trust. If you didn't all do your jobs the way you're supposed to, you would never be able to score that many points in the second half. so that builds a trust that hey, if I do what I'm supposed to do, then we can get this done. And we see all the time in the NFL when mistakes happened that trust is broken and then that becomes pretty hard. But you also have to build trust off the field. So tell something about your time with that team because, like you said, it's a team, it's a bonding experience. Tell us about like how you guys spent time off the field. That really built your bond as well. Yeah, I mean it was. Well, we all had one thing in common. We all really hated losing because God knows we had had a chance to lose twenty eight games the last two years. We were ten and six and eighty. So we still were losing and we just didn't want to go back. That was a hell of the hell of a motivator. That right. Yeah, we knew what was back. We knew what was in store if we got our set. We let ourself get bad again. In fact, an eighty two after our first super bowl, we had that strike. And that strike you here we were like three and six. We're in played nine games right and that really sucked.

So again, that was more more, but you know, that's the field was so important, whether it was training, camp or a in position groups. You know, they all line hangs out all the time together, as does every every individual group. But there's something different about a line with most teams because you know they've got to be able to get along with everybody. You got to be able to get along with the D line on your team, you got to be along, able to get your socalled still guys on your team. N since I always it was an interesting dynamic that we had because we also didn't do something that most teams do, and that's beat the crap out of each other we built. Bill wasn't a believer that you had it all the time, and you know it probably starting in like eighty three, we only really brought our pads out to practice two days a week where we do nine on seven and one one crash rush would do our shoulder pass. The rest of the time we were basically just running everything on air and learned how to go full speed without pads, which is not easy and most most teams can't do that. But bill sort of taught us by, you know, trial and error, that is the best way to go right and you know, and it's funny because when I played for the Broncos and coach Shanahan, that was the same philosophy we had there. You know, kind of Coachhan came from that era and that mindset them and that offense, and I mean that's what we did. Let's practice hard, play fast. We don't have to kill each other. But we did get into scenarios like that where you get in the short yardage and goal line and you you put them on, you go for a little bit and you know, hopefully nobody gets hurt, but you got to get some of that work in. But it didn't have to be all the time. You know, when I played for the Bengals and Kenny Anderson was my quarterback coach, Ken us to tell me some crazy war stories were when he played for the Bengals when they would just go at it for three practices a day and it was just non stop, and I'm like that's insane, you know, but that's that's amazing. That would that was for us gray. Yeah, for Greg was an old them party, just hardcore. You know when we can play the bangles in the Super Bowl. You know, at Pawniac you had to alternate practices and we had the early practice so the bengals would practice after us. Bill was playing music, so we started playing music at the very begin of practice. He get louder and louder as the practice to go on and by the end of practice we got like defensive period and all this offense up. Guys, we're in the background. We'll playing air guitar and you look back in the end zone and forest gray's got the teams all sitting there and they got their tin straps on and they're ready to practice and they all look so serious. We're going mad. Lightened up. It's right. Force Gray's going. Those California guys don't know what's coming out on. We're telling you know, and I've been with both coaches and I've seen it all. So, you know, playing with them many different teams, you see a bunch of different mindsets that coaches have and I love that mindset because it proves that you can still get some work done. You don't have to kill each other because the game's hard enough on Sunday the way it is, you know that's going to be super physical. So you know, you were also a leader in the locker room. You were Lineman of the year. I think three years in a row you were. You were forty niner of the year when year for all your community efforts. So tell me about that leadership role that you came into and I'm sure you grabbed that and you were. You have to be kind of proud of that. Yeah, yeah, I was. I mean it was I had I had a great guy who played next to me, Keith Fahnhorst, who is our captain, and he was also our player wrap and obviously alternate player wrap, right, so that there are those strikes and stuff. We got to do all that fun work. Oh yeah, but yeah, I mean, he he was. He was somebody that, even as a teammate, you kind of looked up to because he was so solid and he was such a he was he didn't say much of anything, but he led by example and you know that was something that I was found kind of easy to draw on, having somebody that close to you that was that was like that. So them. Yeah, I mean being a quote unquote leader is as good. It's Nice, but you know, I thought I thought it was something that you or are you done here? It's like they man.

The analogy I would make is doing tea, you know, doing the color and on television. That's something you can learn to do, okay, and you can become a captain and learn to do that, but people that are naturally like that are just naturally like that and you know, if they can do it, they can do it well. It's also a I think. I mean the leaders that I've seen in the locker rooms, you just have the utmost respect for right, even when they walk in a locker room and you know you're not supposed to be doing something, they walk in, you're like okay, because I think the teams are great teams. I don't know how you feel about this, but I always thought, like the teams, we're just about the locker room. Like our great teams that I was on, it was always we had a great camaraderie in the locker room. We all got along. It wasn't like anybody against anybody else and the leaders just kept us all together and kept US motivated. Yeah, yeah, and to a large degree of the leaders kind of kept the kept the kidding in line, you know, the jokes, that fine line between joke and insult and a good readership group and make sure that fine line isn't crossed. Yeah, I know that's that's a hard one to do, because I became a jokester because I've had many. I was with Jeff Hosstetler. He was a big prankster. You know, I've pranked a few people. You know, because when you after practice you're having fun. We do some some things, but there's a fine line where it gets over too serious or it hurts somebody's feelings. You don't want that. You know, it's it's okay to have a fun laugh and then you know you've got to realize you never can do that to people that have a hard time with it, you know what I mean? Like Oh yeah, just roll off their back and other people just it just stoos in them. They hate it, you know, and you can't you can't always let those guys alone. You didn't want to pick on those guys because they weren't come out and they were going to come back to get you one day, that's for sure. That's right. All right. So then, all right, so you go through your career. After thirteen years, you've had this great, successful career. You kind of now make this transition. Did you start transitioning to be an analyst, to be in TV and doing those things before you were even done? Were you talking about that, or did you just get done and say I need to do something else now? Yeah, I did radio and TV for about five or six years before I retired and I had a production company and did my show, had an advertising and promotions agency and all that I started a couple of years before I retired and we did some of our production out of that and I started sending the networks my tape and about eighty six, eighty seven, eighty six, and you know, because also I did USFL Games, right invader back then. So that was really fun. I had never done anything like that before. I got to do that before I ever retired. So, you know, I started hitting the networks with my tapes for a few years before I retired, so that possibility being there wasn't terribly surprising. So how did you get to that point? Like, did you just always kind of want to do that, or was there somebody, a mentor that said, hey, you should start thinking about the next step in your life? How did you get to that point? My Dad kind of pointed me in that direction, you know, he my dad, was an actor, so he appreciated sort of the art of being full of it, but he also he also, you know, made the point that you know, you could be really good and getting along with the media and knowing how the media works will never be a bad thing. It will always serve you well. So I kind of remembered that and concentrated on that and was kind of a guy they always went to for quotes. So, you know it it became a natural transition going into that and I I signed my first deal with CBS. I was supposed to do seven games. I ended up doing fifteen. There here. That's awesome. Did you like? Did you enjoy that it was. It was I was fantastic. It was. I loved it right up until the playoffs, because they assigned me to work with the NFL today as a sideline reporter during the show. Yeah, and my first assignment was the divisional playoffs. I think it was Minnesota and San Francisco at candlestick and gets called, you know, come out of the field, they're back at me in the back of the head and joking, yeah, you know, saying stuff to me whatnot, and they all ran vibe and it just hit me like a ton of bricks. I he's son of a bitches, are going to do it again. They're gonna win this right without yeah, so that's that...

...was it. That was a unique position. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure you know. That's great advice from Your Dad. You know, my dad used to tell me like if you don't make the team, the world needs to ditch diggers to son. That was that was my advice from my dad, you know right, he was a mill guy. He was like you can come work with me in the factory. So I was like whatever I had to do to stay out of there. I wasn't I wasn't going into the factory, that's for sure. So you have a long career in the NFL, then you have a long career as an analyst. What you know? Tell us about some of the ups and downs you went through doing that and like, was there a time where you said, okay, I'm done with this, I'm going to move on, but you seem to like stick with it for a long time. Yeah, I mean I've done it now since eighty nine, so this is my thirty second year. Wow TV. Twenty eight of it is with CBS, for with NBC back when CBS Lost Football there in the early S, right or in S. Yeah, I have no regrets. I did twenty years of NFL. I'm now done, you know, eleven years of college football. It's it's a man as the greatest game there is. It's it's there's a lot of analogies and parallels with life and everything else that that come to bear in this game and it is just a game. You know, it's there's that great you know quote you see or that that that sound bite you hear about why so serious? Right, that's right, that's that's a little voice in the back of my mind when I'm talking about football. Is You know, if I see him at times like I'm laughing for no reason, it's because I'm thinking of that. Why so serious, right? You know, and how many coaches do you know that are like that? You know, and I I try to explain this to youth coaches all the time, like just let them have fun, don't be so serious with them. They're not, you know, you're not winning a super bowl, you're not. You're just trying to have fun. So they continue to play the game, you know, throughout as long as they can. But a lot of people are serious and they take the game very serious. And you know, as my kids always say, Dad, that's old school thinking, right, but that's just kind of how a lot of the old school coaches were. Oh Yeah, Oh yeah, now I was. But it's fun. I really love it. It's a team atmosphere, you know, because you know, it really is chemistry between you and your partner when it comes to the play by play guy and in the whole team, to produce, producer, director, the BEA, the ad the stats people, the people up in the booth with you. You know, it's still very much a team environment and it's something that, you know, I really enjoy. Have you ever got that little bug in your they were. They're saying, okay, Randy, and you're off script, like get back on it now. Oh Yeah, oh no, I love I'm very familiar with it. Okay, bring it back. Really back in, buddy, really back in. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure true. I'm sure you've had a lot of that. So, Randy, one of the last things we like to do here is called our two minute drill. It's just a lot of fun. Sonar puts two minutes on the clock. I asked you a bunch of questions and and then, you know, at the end, I want to find out where people can follow you or what your favorite charities are, or where what they can donate to, what your groups are. All right, so, righthit two minutes for us, Buddy. All right, Randy. GAS OR ELECTRIC CAR? Oh, gasps all the way, in fact. Pickup truck. Oh, nice, I haven't I have a pickup truck myself. Fly or drive? Would rather fly or drive? Um, fly, it's faster. Right, all right. What's your biggest pet? Peeve, God, how much time you got? I'll be very simplistic. People are very disappointing. Okay, you sound like my wife she likes our dogs way more than most people. All right, hot or cold? Oh, I'm a hot guy. All right. Favorite sports movie? Favorite sports movie, Um, bolder. I like that one. bulldorm was good. All right. What you're what sport do you play now? Mainly Golf, mainly go. That's what's a handicap at. I'm a really good fifteen. Nice. I love it. I love it's about having fun, right, is about having fun and R and and making money. Yeah,...

...okay, I think money and bag. Yeah, okay, all right. If you could change places with one person for a day, who would that be? One person for a day, dead or alive, it doesn't matter. I let's go with Mark Zuckerberg. All right, you will put some more change in your pocket. Yeah, no, I would just like for one, for one, just one time, gets to know what it feels like to be that rich. Right, right, I'll take Jeff bezos. All right. Last one. This is a kick to field. Go. We did score touchdown. All right. Who is your favorite all time quarterback? Oh, Joe Montana, the one that's undefeated in super bowl and it's never throwing an interception, unlike other people I can name. Right. Well, that's probably every other quarterback that's playing the super band. Pretty much. All right, Randy, I appreciate your time. Tell me how our guests can find you and what your favorite charities are where they can donate. All Right, Higher Heroes USA is my favorite charity lately. My all time favorite charity is the Ronald Mcdonald House, which I'm sure is in a city near you. Those are fantastic. And go to my website, Randy Crosscom. That's where my podcast lives and and also where you can find me on all the social media platforms. All right, real quick, tell us what you talked about on your podcast. Heck, football, cooking, life, fun jokes. I love. I love what kind of like the Red Nick Red Knicks fail videos, right, those type of things. It's my it's my podcasts. It's very unstructured and I can put on it whatever the hell I feel like. Right. There you go. I love it. I love it. Well, remember everyone, if you get to meet Randy some day or if you want to send in something to them, just remember he's not serious and he doesn't want you to be serious. So everyone. Thanks again, Randy for joining us on huddle up with guests. We really appreciate you listening, check us out one, six thirty one digital news huddle up with guestscom and RADIOCOM or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Have a great day. Thank you for joining David I in the huddle. We hope you enjoyed our podcast. If you'd like to hear more podcast just like this, go to huddle up with Gustscom, where you can find our social channels, subscribe to hear more by our merchandise and join our excuse of huddle through Patreon. Please join us next week when we talk to more guests about how sports shape their life.

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