Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

Episode · 2 years ago

Mike Ditka

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

IRON MIKE Ditka joins the huddle. He talks growing up in Pittsburgh, the personalities of the Chicago Bears, and how he feels about people who "B*TCH". See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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...grow, you're going to get a little bigger. He said, then when you come back next year you'll be bigger and you'll play football. Well, I grew. I did. I got bigger. I got came back at a hundred sixty pounds. It was about five five eleven and I started on the W pa out tippleway championship team. It's linebacker and and and it was not because I was a good player. Is because this coach had so much confidence in me. He believed me and he made me believe in myself and I be see a pretty good football player after that. By the time I finished my senior AD offers to go to fifty, sixty colleges and then the going to pit because I wanted to be a dennis. I didn't work out, as you can tell, but it's yeah, you know, it's been a heck of a run, but everything to me has been setting goals and reaching goals. Try to reach him. Work, find out the best things you had to what you have to do to reach the goals you're trying to reach. And I don't care how much practice it takes or whatever, if you want it bad enough, you'll find a way to get there. Will coach. How would you describe life growing up in our EQUIPPA? When you did? I mean that's it's an interesting place for those, yeah, haven't been there. It's a it's very dynamic. Yeah, and in the days I got not a CLIPPA was booming. Jane how still was booming. My Dad worked on ALCIPPA southern railroad with service Jane now still it was booming. It employed a lot of people. The whole community, the downtown area probably was about stuff. Nine blocks of stores and shops and Boutiques and bars and just about everything. It really it really was a dynamic town and once the mill closed, Jane now still closed, it became a ghost town. It really did. We lived up from the housing project called Littmar. There was what cell ECLIPPA, there was plants, weel plan six PN seven, but we lived in a housing project called Littlemar and we didn't have it. We didn't have anything, but we didn't need anything. Men We had what we needed. My Dad came home from he worked as but often in the in on the railroad. Came home me once of the tavern. He had a couple beers, came home, we had dinner and that's the way we live and we didn't think anything on that. I had a paper out my whole life. I gave every bit of money I made work and every job I had I gave to my mother and father. They gave me an allowance and that's the way it was. Even when I got to college. You was the same way. I gave them the check they gave me in a loan. Did you have an athletic family? My brother and I. my brother Face Football. He was a one year behind me him and I lay football. My other brothers sister. No, but my action did, as played it buck now. He was a captain to buck now, but it was one year behind me. Well, Hey, coach, you know your stories a lot like because I grew up in Fort City and we had PPG which...

...was there. It was a huge factory. Our town was booming. Yeah, and you know, it was the same thing. And so one of the things I remember so many kids there, and kids don't do this today. We would go out. I learned so much from just going out in the Sandlot and playing right and going tell those sports don't nobody does that today. It it drives me crazy. And then when no organization either, Gosh, you know was it was a bunch of guys who got together, we picked it up, we went out and we played the takes from really almost from the sun up to the sundown. I mean we're doing something all the time. We didn't have to have supervision. We knew what we were going we had a bat in the ball if somebody hits the ball where we couldn't find that, we had a problem. But yes, it was. It was a great way to grow up, really it was. and then everybody pitched in. I can mean, like I said, you know, I had a paper out. I delivered the papers. Everybody new kind of knew who I was because they get that get held the paper was a good and it sometimes it wasn't my fault, but you know, the paper be late maybe, so they get mad at me for not getting there in time. But I you know, I growing up the way we did was great. I had the greatest high school coach in the world, coach Carl Ashman. He encouraged me to stay which football when I wanted to quit. I was a pretty good baseball for why, or a better baseball player anyways, and I got a little bigger and I ended up playing football on a really good team my junior in high school and I'm run and went on the Pitt and the bear. So had a pretty good clear and football. Yeah, you know what's funny, coaches, my dad was so hard on me when I was growing up. You know, he was one of fifteen kids. Were a big Catholic family. He worked in PPG, so did some of his brothers and sisters, or you'd some of them work at Aleghanty Ludlam. And you know the thing about it was, no matter what I did that was good. He could care less. He was like, man, I can't believe you didn't catch that ball that came out you today, or or you know, you threw an interception or whatever. He was always the hardest on me and I always swore that I was never going to be like that and one day I found myself being just like that with my kids. But that would he said, and I always asked him and said, dad, why you like that? He said that was how it was. My Dad was like that with me and it was just tough and they had to make you tough, and that that, I think, that's why so many great players came out of western Pennsylvania. I agree with you, got sir, I agree a hundred percent. But you wouldn't have it any other way. That's the way. That's the way it was. My Dad was the same way with me. You know, if I I struck out playing baseball and and crew in the bat or something, boy, I got my butt whipped. I just got you know anyway. I mean that's just the way it was. Oh, it was. And we had the fire whistle at nine o'clock. If you weren't home by the time the fire whistle one off, there was hell to pay. Right. Well, I had to be an earlier that when there was no light, I had to be an Oh really, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, and you know, if dad came home and mom said anything to them, then you were in trouble. Well, my mom didn't want to say anything, but sometimes of year she had to. But my dad, do you know that everybody that they worked in...

...the mill, they came home, they had dinner, they took a shower, cleaned up, they went down to the tavern. Yep, and they were down tavern for how many hours? I don't know. And our few are and they come home and by then, you know, I was either in bed or I had to be in the house. That was for sure. Yeah, could. So you've seen so many changes in your life from when you were a child to what's going on now and those transitions, and that's really what the show is about, like how we all transition. We have tough times and you just got a battle and your story's great because you've just battled, you've worked hard and you got to where you are because of that influence that you had from when you were a child. Well, you know lace all about. Figure out where you're at, where you want to go and how are you going to get there? That's basically what life was about. Where are you and then where do you want to be? And know, what are you going to do about it? You want to sit there wish, hope. It's not going to work that way. It just doesn't work that way. So you have to do something about it. You find you have to, you have to imprevent methods and you have that goals in your life, but you have to methods that are obtainable, that you can do to reach those goals. And if you don't, well, you're just dreaming. I never asked. I never and never ask anybody for anything. I guess said I had a great high school coach, I had people courage me in all sports, baseball, football, basketball, but I never had and and I worked for what I wanted, and that's the one thing that I got from my dad. He you don't you want something, you work for you ordered and you know it. It's hard to tell people that today, but that's what it comes down to. It comes down down to being resilient, not quitting, never giving up. Keep going after you never know, some other guys going to give up sooner later. Coach, we want to talk a little bit about your career pit and you know you gave us a little explanation of why you went to pit. But what was your first real memory of going? Like that's not far from home, but it is far back in that time right, because I can remember my dad never wanted to leave Fort City. Yeah, it wasn't. No, of course it wasn't far from home. was only twenty, forty five miles from Bell EQUIPPA. But I spent my time on the pitch campus, I really did. I get home maybe one weekend a month or maybe two weekends a month, but no more than that and I wasn't running back home every week. So the college thing. He had understand pit campus and it's there's not much of a campus because it's a city campus, but it worked out well for me. I can and I was there and it we recruited from really, really good football players from western Pennsylvania and Ohio and and we when we had a lot of good pro we didn't that my senior year. Our record was for three and free. Now that's not very good, but you know, it's it. We tied Syracuse. I think it was the number one team in the country that year and we's had noted game, I thinking. But anyway, we we were we were teamed. It was close but we weren't...

...quite there and we didn't throw the football a lot. We ran the football a lot. When you got to pit, coach, was there a particular player or member the coaching staff they really bonded with? That kind of helped your proof. The Guy, the guy had got me to go, was nick pass of Dallas. Really he was from aliquipped. He had gone the pit. He was a running back and he kind of recruited me for Pitt more than anybody. And Jack Whalley was a line coach. You put under a coach Michael Olson, and he recruited me. He was a guy to recruited me. Ernie effery, all great guys. I mean I can remember more and they had a big impact on my career, my life and and my development as a football player. So, coach you mentioned, did you work when you were in college? Oh, yeah, we all had jobs. I mean we did something. Yeah, when I was in college I worked actually one year at work for the university I did. You know in the summer where they get all that cleaning up and well, whatever, you a mat mating this man on campus. Not that I can fix anything, but I could clean things up. You never had that Brian Bosworth job where you just got to sit on the top of a corvette and watch the oil pumps go up and down? Huh? Not Quite. Yeah, yeah, because I used to hear that's through all the time when I went to the University of Tulsa. There and and they used to talk about you know, he was older than me and they always talked about it how he had the cush job at Oklahoma and he got paid because Barry Switzer took care of his athletes. Well, I think a lot of schools back did. Back then we were, I was about one of those schools. Pit Wasn't one of those schools. So I'm very lucky you worked out the way I did. Well, yeah, I'm sure that instilled a lot of how you became a player and a coach in that so did you when you were in college? Did you kind of have an understanding of the NFL or you just kind of were we're playing for your school. That was playing for Pitt. I had no clue, no clue at all, and somebody, you know, it was no big deal. Don't forgetting now. This is back in one thousand nine hundred and sixty. It was not that big a deal. And you know the draft is somebody came to me and said the drafted, bears are going to draft you, and I said when I figured I play linebacker. When I got to the pros and they drafted me, I went met Mr Alice, said you're going to play tight ends. What the Hell is a tight end? And then really, we had a coach their named Luke, John Soo Soho. Really he really did created that position for me and they threw the ball give me a lot. Had A quarterback named Bill Wade who loved this row the football me. So it ended up being good for me, I mean myself, and John Macki was came in the next year right after me. He was a syracuse when I was a bit and that was really the start of it, John Mackie and myself. You know, Rocky told us about how, when he got drafted. He found out by somebody's telling him, Hey, look, I think they're drafting you on TV.

Somebody told him that. Like he didn't even know what was going on. So that's amazing that you guys even had no clue compared to well, what the draft is today. I mean it's a big production. It's crazy, it is. Yeah, we got I got a phone call, you know, said the bears draft of you. My first contract was twelvezero dollars with the six thousand and I was a six player picked in the draft, the six player picked in the first round, twelve thousand with a six thousand dollar signing bonus, and I made all pro gus. And then the next year he didn't. He wanted to pay me a bad twelve. He want to pay me fourteen. I see, coach, I'm at taking a cut. I said, I mean twelve and six. Last year I said that was eighteen. I said I wouldn't Finns for penny less than eighteen. As soon as I said it he opened the drawer. He had a contract for eighteen thousand. He wasn't to give me a raise right, he was going to pay eight and I signed it and hey, it didn't matter. When you want to play the game, you want to play the game, not about the money. And these kids are so fortunate to be involved in this type of an economy. Were they pay the athletes? Would they pay him it, since it's insane, especially like what Mike Trout got out and in California. All yeah, that's crazy. So coach it and I like and I like Mike Drop. Everybody can get I'm glad you got it. I mean, you know, but there's always a way to make things work if you want to make them work, and you know and I'm glad it was a way it was because it was hard and I had to do it. I had to work. I had to work, I had to have the disciplinity that make myself let go do what I had to do. That was always important and I never had a problem doing it. Yeah, do you think that's kind of a just everybody's different and you know, or do you think that's something stilled by your parents? I didn't think I was entitled to anything. Now that's the thing. You get what you were in life and I think a lot of people now think they're entitled to something right for whatever reason. I don't know whatever the reason is they do. I don't agree with that. I think you're entitled to what you work for, why you learn. Yeah, time and effort, there's no doubt about that. Right. So, you played in one of the greatest divisions ever. I loved play. I played for the Lions and the Vikings. What was summer like? What was the team that you always wanted to play against? It you really said this is going to be a great game, but I was we were told from day one it was a packers you got to beat the pack and as the first thing they told me, no matter what happens, we got to beat the packers. Well, I think. Hell, I didn't know the packers where. I knew what this students work right, you know, but the fact of the eagles stay ors, I knew that. So that I found out even the packers were, and goes frombardy was and how good they were, Parkstar and warning and Taylor and and all those guys, the great defense they had. McGee. Yeah, so we had a lot of great, great games with him. Finally, in one thousand nine hundred and sixty three, we broke through, we beat him up, we went up there open with him up there and we beat him in a very close game and we went on and one the NFL chamanship that year in one thousand nine hundred and sixty three. Was that one of your fondest memories as a player?...

But now you you know, you don't remember the losses. Guess you don't want to remember the lot of you want you remember the win. So yes, that was one of them. Hey, you were, you've always been thought of as one of the toughest players to ever play the game. was there a defender that you were at all intimidated by it? Why, don't call intimid anybody tried to kill me. That was very niskey. Well, that being yeah, that would be intimidated. Yeah, he was trying to kill me the old time and I was trying to get save my own life. But no, Ray was a great player and he he guess. Well, was his job, you know, not the hell out of me when I was on the field, and he did that, and I'm not to all out of him when I got a chance to. So we had a pretty good court of the run going there for a while. Right. So, coach. So now you've played in the NFL. When did you get that that that bucked to get into coaching as a player, because I played fifteen years and like I was kind of there, but I wanted to kind of be with my family and I try to go back into coaching later. And it didn't work out for me. Did you? You went right into it. Well, you know it really it wasn't something that what buy the design. I mean I wasn't like something. I was, well, I'm going to be a football coach. I'll tell you what happened exactly. I played for the one of the greatest minute I've ever remember my life, Tom Landry, and at four great, great years of the player Dallas, he salvage my career when I wasn't I was I was on my way out. I had been two years and of Hell and Philadelphia and he brought me to Dallas as salvage my career. I played for years there, one a super bowl with them and and when I got got into the Restaur business down there and I thought was doing okay and then, you know, he asked one day as he called me in and you know, I was I was hired, and he says, listen, what are you going to do? I said, well, I guess I'm just going to spend time at the rest ers. He said, we are thought about coach and I said now I had. He said, why don't you think about it? And like the hired a coach, a tight ends in the special teams. And well, that's where it started. That's I never look back and I learned a lot him and it was great day. You got a question for coach, especially in the in the mid S, had to be a challenge to coach his guys with all his personalities. She well, it was different, really was. And the main thing we had to figure out and we had to put an offense together. You know, Buddy Ryan ran the defense and we had a hell of a defense. We had some of the greatest players and you know and Hampton and make Michael and dent and single arry and fancy competing one and not I can name the whole team was fantastic. That's Frasier. But anyways, we had we had a we had a practice skin. So...

...those guys every day in practice and our practice is weren't a live but they were pretty pretty temple. So it may. If we didn't defend ourself, we were going to get killed in practice. And I kept telling the buddy we're not playing the bears this year. I check the schedule, we're not playing you guys me. You know, take it easy on us. So anyways, you know what, it made us better. It made our offense better if we could, if we could, go up against our defense every day in practice, and we had the the seven on sevens in that and we did it well and we did and it worked out great. And don't forget we had the great water pain. We had great guys. McMahon is not easy. Was I would rather have nobody in my quarterback than him right. Well, you know the thing that we know, coach, it takes, even though there's all those great players, it takes a leader to bring them together and want to win and play together. And one of the quotes I saw you say was, you know, if you walk with me, we're going to get to the dance in and you know that's what it is. They they wanted to follow you. They knew you've been there and I think you were the influence that put all that great talent and made it work and win a championship. Well, I knew when I got there we had a go and I knew I'd coach Holl was hired me. He hired me to wind championships in irony and every reason. And we had that opportunity because the nucleus was there, the defense was there, we had it, tweaked some things. On offense, I had that, in my opinion, I had the greatest running back in the history of the game and Walter Payton, and my fullback, Matt Stuey, was as good as there ever was. In my opinion. Our offensive line was solid. Is Solid as you could find. Those guys were great. We had a couple guys of tight end receivers. We had speed receiver. Will they go out? We had, we had all kids sketch. Can't name every and any, but you know what we had. We had people who complimented each other and our defense was a key factor of everything we did. There's no question about that. But on top of that we had really good special teams. We had great special teams. And did you have a favorite player that you coached? They were all my favorites really. I mean if you were to talk about one guy, I don't know. I look different guys. I mean I love the way make Michael played because he played our didn't have the talent, mamped and played. You know, we got fridge and everybody. There's a lot of cruish and fish was a good football player for us, playing great. He was a great college football player. You know, he let himself go. That's why he became what he became. But when he came out and when he when he was waiting in there, about two hundred sixty pounds a guy, was unbelievable and hill quick as a cat. But you know, you can't say they know it takes discipline in like to take care of yourself if you're going to play the game football. And he sports well. I think a lot of people saw him almost as that. On the outside song is...

...almost like a side show, but he really was a very good player. Well, he was. You know, it wasn't by it wasn't by accident that we put him in the back floor and random, because I watched him run this. They could. We really had to run these things, Buddy Adam, and they did run these like ten yards guys sprints and I watched. I watched fridge. His start was unbelievable. He couldn't run, you know, he couldn't run. Forty arms effective way but he wasn't that bad. But he could go five yards pretty damn passed and I watched that and I said, Hey, I'm going to put this guy in in front of water, and I did and he smashed him. I mean it was crazy. He just he just blew a hole in the water walked in. So I know I'm on Jen, his coach. So I said, well, as a sea can block, you can run. So I gave ble he ran. He ran right over people. Rather they score a touchdown. I said, well, if he can run it, he can rock it. You said they he can, he can catch it, and we do on the ball for touchdown. I said what a was. We can do all that. He can pass the ball, while he couldn't pass the ball. I thought out a three. Yeah. Well, coach, so you've had a lot of highs and lows in playing in coaching and it's very difficult sometimes. How were you able to manage all of that as a player and as a coach, all those different highs and lows you get in the game of football? Well, I guess sometimes I didn't do it very well, but sometimes I did. I mean it's hard. I mean they you know, people don't realize it's it's more than a job. Did these guys are become your life. It wasn't every day and you really want in my case, I had had success as a player and I wanted them to have that kind of success, that killing that I had when you win, and that's only it only comes when you win, and that when you get closer, not when you're you're almost there. You got to win and we just had a good group right and like for me, when I had problems come up in my career, and I've had a lot of them, but when those came up, I would go back to things my dad would tell me to like try to put things back into perspective and how I grew up, where I came from. The ride is gets bumpy at times and it's hard to stay in the Buggy, but you got to do it. What do you remember most and what would you give advice to other people about if they want to go into coaching? Well, first of all, I think you have you for you have to have a game plan for what you want to do. You have to have understand you have to put the right people in the right place, you got to get the you got to utilize your personnel to the best of their talents. How the words. Don't try to make a donkey and racehorse, you know, make him. You know what I mean. For you, you got to do what you got to do with the talent they have and you try to try to get that all together. I don't...

...know. I watch these kids saying there's they're so talented, they're so there's so much bigger and faster stronger than we were. It's unbelievable. Well, they don't. They don't partake in drinking smoking like they did back in the day. They they really take care of their bodies today. Sonny jer gets, you tell me a lot of those stories. Oh yeah, Sonny was a well, we all did it. I mean that was it. I mean you had a football game, we go to the we stopped by the tavern after the game drink about twenty five years. But the hell? Right, yeah, that's what our dad's did. Right, and there's no cameraphone zone, right. Yeah, nobody had a phone filming. You hope they nobody cared. Actually reports. You're right there with drinking with you. You're on your side. Not trying to write bad things about you. Yeah, rude career who I always wanted to ask you about the Saturday night live episodes when they had the fans there and Chris Farley and those guys and and did you watch those? Did you enjoy those? Well, you know, they asked me to come on and I came out and they were good guys. I really enjoyed it. I rejard doing a show. Yeah, I you know, I got caught up into a little bit, but it was a it was a good thing. I mean, I they it was fun and those guys are great. And then you know, they they really played. They built the bears up pretty good and that I liked that bears, you know. So Oh, yeah, it's fun. Yeah, it was great. It was my kids still do it. You know. Do you want? Would you take a hurricane or would you take coach Dick? And we always walk around the House going coach Dick, you know, because well, Pittsburgh guys through and through after the NFL, but you kind of stayed in it, right, because you're part of different organizations now. I was fortunate I got to do job. I work for NBCCBS, ESPN, I work for all the major networks and it was great. I got a sad the chance to stay close from the game and talk about it, and so it was fun and I'm sure, I mean you had a lot of very successful business ventures too, and your your philosophy and coaching probably translated well into the business world. Well, we have some wrestlers that we are a very proud of. We have a couple of here Chicago, one in Pittsburgh. So we're we we're okay. We do well with what we're trying to do and the brand is good. I've got a good partner. It's a delicious restaurant. I have to say it's one of my favorites in Pittsburgh. Right. So, coach, how often, like, do you have other from some of your former players come into your restaurant? You get to see them often? I don't see a lot of the former players anymore. Every once to why I see some of the guys, but no, they know, they got their own lives. I'm in the restaurant. HOW ABOUT CIGARS? I got the cigars. Yeah, I got a land of Cigar and I actually actually got one right in front of me here. But I like that's the only that's the only advice I really have. I like to smoke cigars. Right. So, so, coach, you've come from Al Quippa, right,...

...it's a meal town. We know that. A lot of people in Pittsburgh understand that. You've made all these transitions in your life and you really wanted to. You know, sports was it's just it's in you. It's all a part of you. What advice you want to give our listeners to about how sports can really help you get to where you want to go in life? Well, it's not about sports, is about life. You know you. We have people say he's I want to be this. Well, what are you going to do about becoming this? How are you going to attain what you want to become? You got to have goals, but you have to have methods. Of Rico's goals and you got to be a and he got to be attainable. I mean you can't say I want to do this and that and you know, if they slip the flipprop your off the top of your head, you get you. You have that game plan for life and I really believe that. So you you know where you want to go, you know how you have a pretty good idea how you want to get to here's what you got to do and you got to do those things. I mean, I I'm not telling you you don't know, and sometimes it's not comfortable, sometime to get stuff, but that's what it got to be. A success is not EA, it doesn't come cheap and it's not easy and if you think it is, you're crazy. Right, and that and that's what's going on like if you see Pittsburgh in the transformation that we've made in the last forty years from milltowns to technology and people understanding that. Look, just because times get tough, it doesn't mean that it's the end. You got to keep fighting, you got to keep pushing and and when you have those goals, you got to give you something new to reach for. And that's what this shows about, you know, not talking about the current part of sports that we hear every day and we get sick of listening to. It's about trying to give people information that can change their lives. Yes, that's they used to tell us all time. When Times get tough, get going very well. That's just the way it is. I mean, you're right, and Pittsburgh people, and I said this all over and I don't know if it's true as much today, but because of the mills and the industrial makeup of the city over the years. I thought it was. I thought it was I thought the people were just the greatest. I really did, and I think now they've transformed so much into different technologies in that but it when it was a still mill town. It was not a bad believe me, a little bit dirty because of a little bit. It's cleaned up nice. It has all right. It not unbelievable, unbelievable pits for exampliable well, coach, not to a lot of hard working people in Pittsburgh. My nephew is a coal miner and I know what that's all about. So you know those guys got you got to have a lot of grit to do that stuff. We're going to fire some quick questions in our last segment here called no huddle. Coach. This is a lot of fun. Just just fire out the answers and and we edit this and have a lot of fun with it. It's our two minute drill, for lack of a better term. So go ahead day, fire the question. He coach. What's your biggest pet peeve? My biggest pet peeve is people who bitch.

Fair enough, all right. This is a little Pittsburgh versus Chicago question here. Kill Bassa or brought workst I like a both, but I'll say CABASA. Yeah, what's the little sour crop coach? Oh, yeah, that's the way. That's what I would raise on me too. Hey, I'm Polish and belt bro Crain. Oh my gosh, we ate all that. Yeah, yeah, you gotta have the Progis at a go unpkey still in all that and all that Lusky, all that stuff. Hey, how about this? Were you a better college player or pro player? Well, I would put it this way. My senior year in College I caught twelve passes. My rookie year in pro football I crot fifty eight. Yeah, but you're figured. Well, you know, the animals all American, I think too. I mean you were you might have. That was that gave. That came from defense. Really, I play and as again, I thought I was going to be a linebacker in pro ball. Not a tide in that. I had really anybody else who would have drafted me, I would have been a linebacker very and that's fact. Now, when you come back to Pittsburgh, besides going to Dick kids and Robinson what's your favorite place to go? I don't go anywhere. That's the only place I do go, so that's a good place to go. Dave wishous, coach. So my question for you was what is your favorite cigar? What type? I think Maduros. There's all kind so what did your favorite? There is no bad cigar and I gotta I got it right now. I got I got my own line line that's called called the ditches signature line, made by Camasho. They're not bad. They're pretty good cigars. And then right here, I have one right in front of me now, I have a David offline front of me and I like them. We're we're your cigars made. Yeah, these are Roh hi. I think they're adorn. Yeah, they are there ondoors. Yeah, now, coach, last question. With all your years and TV commentating, give it most favorite TV colleague. Really enjoyed working with Chris Berm and I thought he was I thought he made people rounding better and I thought he was a real pro added and I really enjoyed working with Chris all the years and I would had the fortune of working for working with him at Hes. Yeah, but I worked for a lot of bog guy. I work with Jim Mans to Jim was fantastic, you know, when I was at hating weird CBS together. But so everybody those guys are good. But I mean it would be hard to be boo or boomer was pretty darn good. Yeah, boomers. Grab met him several times and he seems like he brought up the audience, the life in the room and everything and ask those great questions and really made everybody around them better. So, coach,...

...and we really appreciate you coming on with us. Thanks for spending forty S or so minutes with us and give us a little background. Our fans are going to love it and we'll share it on social media and if you can help us out, we'd really appreciate it and hopefully some day we can see you. Robinson it at Dick has. All right, thanks, guess. All Right, Care God. Thank you, but.

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