Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

Episode · 8 months ago

Michael Strahan

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Welcome to the Huddle with 15-year NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte! It’s a special time in the huddle as the remarkable Michael Strahan joins Gus to talk about the old days, the current ones and what’s in the future for this athlete turned multi-talented and media pro. Gus and Michael relive old times and a few hits Michael delivered to Gus, some which have Gus’ clock wound his clock even to current times! Thanks for joining Gus and Michael in the huddle! 

Hey everyone, Welcome to another episode of huddle up with Gus, I'm your host, former NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte and welcome to the new 16 31 digital new studio. You know, some people say no news is good news. Well I say to those people you've never read. 16 31 digital news dot com. Go to 16 31 digital news dot com to get your latest news, sports, music and entertainment and maybe even listen to your favorite podcast. Follow up with Gusts. Check it out today at www. 16 31 digital news dot com. Huddle up with Gusts is brought to you by Vegas sports advantage, clients of Vegas sports advantage are winning big in 2021 you can be a part of the winning two. As of june 1st $100. Bettors are up $3700 500 dollars. Bettors are up $18,500 and $1000 Bettors are up $37,000 and $5000. Bettors are up $185,000 become inclined today by clicking the link in the description below and use promo code, huddle up To take 25% off your package today. Thanks to our partnership. Welcome to what surely will be a doozy of a matchup Ryan here sports fans. Whether your game is on the gridiron at the diamond or on the links, we can only say, okay, welcome to this week's huddle up with gusts, 15 year NFL quarterback Gus parents passion for sports has taken him on the field and behind the bench is playing for seven NFL franchises with 114 TVs under his belt. Gus knows who the players are and how the games are one. Uh, it's not every day you get to hang out with an NFL quarterback up. Okay, sports fans from the decked out and plush 16 31 digital studios, it's kick off time. So snap your chin straps on, get ready to huddle up guys. All right. Hey, everyone got out here with huddle up with us, 15 year NFL quarterback. We're live here on the new super platform brought to you by the NFL alumni ventures and I'm so excited today. Uh, we're still our same old podcast. We're going to talk to incredible guests. You know, we've had some incredible people on. But this person today, I don't even have enough time. It would just take the whole time just to introduce everything that he's doing. But obviously you guys can see him, he played for the Giants. Uh, he's a two time Emmy winner, two time Super Bowl champ, co host of GM on abc. He has M. S. X. Which is an F leisure line. Uh, you can check that out. He's an analyst on Fox. He's a partner at uh Um, Smack Entertainment. He hosts $100,000 pyramid. I can't even go on anymore. Now with me is Michael strahan, Michael, How do you do it all buddy man, you got me one in here and all that. I'm like sleep. Oh man, I do all great things. I do all fun things. So I guess if it's fun, you know it doesn't really feel like work and I just kind of wake up and go about my day and do everything I that's just in front of me. So it's challenging stuff man. You know, you you used to play football used to a challenge. This is a new challenge and a whole different, you know, it's a whole different challenge for you. Yeah, it's something completely different and I didn't think I could do this. Who thought I could do this? I don't think many people did. So this is just a way for me to kind of get out there and burn off some energy and creates a success. So when you played for the Giants, your commute to work was probably as long as it takes you to keep you from new york to L. A. When you drove. I tell you what man, I spend more time on planes Thinking about it. I I spent a little bit more time between all the jobs on air than I do on planes per week because I spend you know over 10 hours on the plane a week. G. M. A. is 10 hours. No GMOs eight hours because I don't do Monday during football season. Oh you know I actually spend more time on the plane. They actually spend working, you just help me get out holy smoke. Yeah, I mean, I mean that's got to be kind of hard, I mean you fly a lot. I don't know how many, how many miles you put it, I can't stand to be on a plane because now he's hurt. My back hurts. Yes, it's great. You know what's great because it is quiet. Yeah, like six hours of quiet going in like 4.5 hours of quiet coming back and I get to catch up on movie that I get to catch up on sleep. What what show are you watching? Oh man, you know what I am? I'm letting ted lasso build up the second season of ted lasso build up. I'm caught up on billions, I'm caught up on Godfather of Harlem, I've been watching this show called Clickbait, I have one more episode, is that good? I haven't even watched, I saw that one. You know what? It's actually been interesting I think I'm...

...hoping which I'm thinking this last episode to try to teach us a lesson about the internet and what you believe. Do you believe everything? You see? Uh type of situation? But it's been pretty good so far. Been interesting. Yeah, that's awesome. My wife and I, we watch hs american horror story, that's our, that's our show right now. So That's a crazy one. That's a good one that they they are nuts man, those guys, they put on some great great shows. So tell me we're gonna go back my show is all about how sports shapes your life. I knew you were born in Houston, you grew up in Germany and I've heard your stories, I've I've obviously researched you um and you talk about how that transition from being over in Germany all those years to coming back to the states was really difficult for you. Can you explain about how you fell in love with sports because it had to be a big transition for you? Well uh I played football and I was seven and eight years old at fort Bragg north Carolina being and my dad was in the military moved to Germany and and the extent of my football was it was nothing, I watched it on tv like every other kid I watched all sports on tv and just thought oh I can do that if it would have been baseball. Oh I could have done that. Basketball. Oh I don't know if I could have done that. Oh yeah you definitely, yeah I would just get rid of the kid. You see something on tv and guys that you admired that you think oh I can do that too. So by singing your high school with my dad just said, hey go back, you're going to go to the state, you're gonna stay here uncle you're gonna get a scholarship. I just never doubted it. Not not because I wasn't afraid or I wasn't nervous. So, but because I was too naive to understand how hard it was supposed to be to get a scholarship no matter what school, I didn't understand how hard football was, I understand how hard it was to work out with my dad. Yeah, I understood how much it was a different kind of workout. Yeah. Like my dad would wake us up to go running during the summer like 4 30 in the morning, five in the morning. We're running in the woods for hours and all those things kind of translated when I came back to the states to play like okay mom and I'm willing to work hard and then I know I, I can create an opportunity and that's the way I've always looked at, I've never been the most talented guy. I've just always been a guy who's willing to work hard and willing to study hard because as you know, football is as important. It's the challenges more mental to me. At one point, it was more a mental challenge than it was necessarily a physical challenge. And once I've kind of got the mental part down, understood how to um, you know, have different levels of intensity, how to like have a switch. Look at it. You guys come up to the line, I could look at the play and look at your formation and go, oh wait, now that guy that I saw that picture of somebody at texas Southern university with a shirt on, What was that guy like in college? I was a nice mild mannered guy and I really was your edge didn't come out yet. Huh? My edge didn't come out yet on the football field. I was hustling running guy technique wise. I did not have much, but I was just going to run and run and run into the tackle eventually fell over and gave me or just like just too tired to block me what I was going to do and in the pros a lot of my game was built on on just I used to think about Mike Tyson as a fighter. Like what made Mike Tyson the most feared fighter in the league in the world. Is that Mike Tyson would just keep pressure on you. He once he came out the pressure was just unbearable. He was always in your face. Yeah. And as a pass rusher, that was my thing. Just bull bull rush to keep the pressure on you until eventually you're going to kind of give up something was that was older, I learned how to, you know, kind of have more of a game plan when it came to pass rusher. Yeah, but that was that a little bit of your dad, right? Because like when I would get hit, my dad was always in the back of my head saying get up right? And for you thinking about like how your dad was in the military, how he worked out how he did all those things to me, it's like, don't we don't quit, right? And that was that part of it for you? Well it was weird because my dad was more of the working out part and being tired like we don't quit if I got hit on the field and I felt it and I was like, oh that hurt. That get up was more of my mom. My mom would be like boys, you better get off that ground. Nobody told you to go play, you wouldn't play it on your own. So you know my mind not a joke when it came to that like she was one of those moms gonna run out there and push everybody got my baby wouldn't do that. You chose to be out here, you suck it up. And so but as far as like out there working and running and when it got tough, I definitely thought about my dad when it was like angered and I really just can't have the cart...

...come out here and pick me up off this field. That was my mom. Yeah. Okay. I I understand that. So you're texas southern. It's not a huge school. It's kind of like Tulsa. I go to D. C. You went to new york in 93. How big of a like a shock was that for you because you're on a giant and there's some incredible players there. It's in the media capital of the world, right? So there's all these new things for you. What was that like for you? Well, I come to new york and I, when I went to Germany to the Houston to go to college in high school, that senior high schools in college, I left Houston, I thought Houston whether the fastest city in the world, that man, this place is just buzzing. So what's going on here? Until I came to new york the first day here, I said, I will never live in the city. I will never drive in this city. I don't know why they picked me to come to this city because this place is crazy. And then I ended up in um is at the stadium and I'll never forget Lawrence Taylor walked into that locker room and I remember him just floating in there. He was like a God to me when it came to the game of football so much film, like a bunch of crazy dogs and have some fun. Like I watched everything that Lawrence Taylor did. So it was, it was unbelievable to be on the team with him and then be, you know, scout team right on the opposite side of him running the plays or walk through like I'm the offensive player that he has to play against and it really gave me a great appreciation for how hard you have to work in football. I always looked at LT is just a raw talent. Um guy was just incredible football player. But once I got closer, I kind of looked under the hood, I can see that this is a guy who understood the game in practice and not saying he practiced every day, maybe a few days. But when he practiced every time he's on that field he was 100% all out, there was no play and scout team but he was not or and and and the drills where he was not all out and scout team, he would sometimes tell the young guys I want to do scout team, I want to mimic the other offense, other defense for our team to get better and he would go all out there and I just learned from that like well as hard as you practice is what you're going to get out of yourself in the game. If you cheat yourself practice, if you cheat yourself in the weight room, you cheat yourself with the running and all these other sprints and trying to get in shape. You won't be prepared on sunday to be successful. You can be mediocre. You can pass but as a player but you won't pass is a great player. Right? Right. Yeah, that makes a difference. I learned that from Darryl Greene, my, my rookie year when I'm doing scout team and I'm throwing the ball where the coaches circle, right? They circled the spot for the defense because they wanted to all look good. And Daryl goes, what are you doing? I said I'm thrown to the guy. They tell me too, they go, no heroes, no, you're not making me any better, you're not making you any better throw it where you're supposed to throw it. And then so I did that, the coaches defensive coach yelled at me, Darryl said leave him alone and that was it. I was like, okay, I'm gonna do what happened, you know, and that's why Darryl Green is like you in a Hall of Famer. Yeah, Darryl Greene was amazing, man. And Darryl can still run a 4 to 40 I think, man, that is fast, fast. I'll never forget him running down the Dickerson of Dorset or somebody was like who is this guy? Yeah, but I found that that that you know, all great players and a guy like yourself, you last so many years in the league, you don't do that by mistake. It's not by mistake, it's not they don't give you a job because they feel sorry for you, they don't give you a job because you're just good enough. They only give you because you can really contribute help and it takes a lot of work to get into the NFL and it takes a hell of a lot of work to stay in the NFL and you know, I think I think I can I can I answer. Yeah. So I was gonna ask you, john Garrett has a question for you. She says, what advice would Michael give young NFL players to help them ensure success in the league and also be successful beyond the game. I think that's a perfect question Michael. I agree. And jen great question. Thank you. I think that for me, always focus on your primary job, Yeah. Your primary job right now at 20 something years old. Whatever whatever it may be is too, is that your professional football player, professional athletes don't get distracted by the other trappings or other things that come around where you think you want to own this company and be this rap star and on that record label and on this business, those things are distractions and you have to focus on what's important, what really helps you earn a living if you can be a great football player or a great athlete opens up so many other doors and every other avenue of what you want to do and learn and use those, use the app and use the, the fact that you are that professional athletes to...

...get yourself into rooms. Now, once you get in that room, you need to prove that you can stay in that room. You need to start to understand why you're in that room and what that business is. If there's something that you're interested in, don't be afraid to intern, don't be afraid to be humble And and I understand that in every business everybody starts at the bottom. You didn't grow up and just like come out of the wound, a great football player, just like you're not going to go into every other business and be great. So I would say focused on your primary job as an athlete and once you have that down then you can start to do some things and dabble and, and, and, and and take some more energy, as long as you don't take too much away or enough away to affect your game and put into other things and and also learned that everybody has great ideas as long as it comes out of your checkbook. So if your money get somewhere and learn off somebody else's dime. So if you ever want to start a business of your own, then you, you've, you've learned off somebody else's financial entrepreneurship is tough, isn't it? It's very tough and I've done it and I do it and it has been very tough, Everything does not work, Things fail. Um you gotta know when to let go sometimes, but I think the biggest thing is you have to understand your strengths, your weaknesses, who you can work with, who you can't work with, You have to understand how to build a team because teams are so important outside of the game of football, that's the thing that I learned to multiple football that carry over the business is building a great team and having great people around you and um, makes makes your work a lot easier to make your life a lot easier. Yeah. All right. Hey, I got a question. So you traveled so much. You said you're on the plane. Gunnar wants to know, do you ever have time to golf? Oh yeah. Come on Gunner. I'm playing golf. I am on the plane tomorrow, right after work and I will get off that plane and go straight to the golf course. I usually don't play on Fridays, but I have somebody who want to play in California on friday. So I'll play on friday. Then I will again play on saturday and then I will work all day, sunday. Fly back to new york and I will play on monday and then I'll work all week and do it all over again. So, absolutely man. Golf is my, that's my thing. All right. All right. So I want to, I want to transition this into a play that you and I were part of, right? And I want to know if you hit your driver as hard as you hit me. So this video right here. Hmm, it's pretty tough. You're on the end. All joe Patton gets burned. Oh, he picks the ball up. Like you even help me up. He wouldn't pick the ball up. Almost joe Patton picked it up. Oh my gosh. Like God I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I've never had to you. I'm sorry. I I'm still here though. I'm okay. I remember that play like yesterday, I remember my mindset like yesterday because that was like, that was my third year in the league. I was young. I was I was a strong bull, a little young bull, right? I didn't understand the mechanics of not the mechanic but how to set up a game plan to pass rush. That's what I was learning to like show a guy something and like sleight of hand, let make him look like I'm gonna do this and then do that whole game. I've been giving him a bull rushing around the outside edge and then I said, I have him set up and why you got to score That was a two point play convert and I and I it worked actually, I was surprised when I said, oh my God, my plan worked. I've been playing that. Let me give him something different at work and gus are still holding the ball but walter is holding the bottom like, let's hold it. Just hold it, don't let it go. I'm almost saying, mother and people may think I'm very, very primal but being out there on the football field, it is kind of survival of the fittest. And it's like I looked at it as that you or me on every play. Yeah, definitely. I couldn't think about the game. It's like every single play. I have to beat you. It's me or you were gonna watch film tomorrow and I'm either going to get a plus or minus. I want a lot more pluses than minuses and I'm running at you and as primal leather was, I'll never forget. I am thinking you're just standing there man, looking so pretty and sweet and I'm like put your helmet, I want to hit you so hard in your spine that it comes out the front of your chest. Well, I'll have to think like that. That's what I was thinking. I believe you. So I show my son's right the other day I showed them this video and they sell when they were younger, but I showed him the video and you know what they said? They said dad, why did you hold on the ball so long? So they're like on your side. What is going on here? What you got some smart kids? They have a point. We're holding it. You gotta have that internal clock.

Yeah. Well that 1.5 2nd internal clock. Yeah, but that is the hardest I've ever hit anybody in my entire career by far. And I've been asked and I said gus for Rod Washington, 1995. The hardest hit I've ever hit anybody and RFK I think he, I think the bleachers were bouncing after that. I hit the ground and all the bleachers were bouncing man. I but the thing is like I love that stadium. I know it was beat up and I know you got to come out with a lot of that dugout. I love the grass. I love the proximity of the fans to you on the bench. Like that was a special place man. And I go to these new stadiums even even when the Giants play Metlife, not Giants Stadium, what I'm saying, I know there, it's kind of cool off a little bit of the grit. Oh yeah, Giants stay and they used to open those big doors in the end zone and uh, when we had the ball, when that wind would be going crazy and it would get so cold and then our defense will go out and they close the doors. Yeah, smart. So, um, tell me about now, you know, we've we've gone over a lot of this, your your career was amazing and now you have this second career that's that's really hard for a lot of players to do. But we see it more and more today with players and you were right out there in front. So tell me what advice you would give us as former athletes or anyone. How do you transition into something that, you know, you found what you love to do and you're really, really good at it. I mean, and it's not, it wasn't what you did before. It Was complete 1 80. There's a lot of failure though, there's a lot of failure along the way. A lot of nose along the way, a lot of, a lot of that stuff that people don't see and I, I think for me, I had to get over the fact that I only saw myself as an athlete, truly. And when they say more than an athlete, that is really, um, a true mindset because at first I was literally like, oh man, I'm a football player. Everybody's going to see me as a football player. No one really gives football player that much respect outside of the football field when it comes to business or anything sports. But I eventually had to get over my myself and think, you know what people see you, how you see yourself, right? So if you see yourself as only a football player, that's the energy and, or you're gonna give off and that's the other people going to see you at, yeah, Hey, how come up with us listeners Manscaped. Well, they sent me, uh, they hooked me up with a bunch of tools and formulations for their package, three point oh Kit. Uh, so you know, I want to show you guys what's in the perfect package, right? We all think we got a perfect package, but they sent me the perfect package, three point oh kid, I want to show you what they sent me. So it was crazy. It came in this great box. Uh, you know, and you can see what it says, they will thank you because they sent us this awesome trimmer. They sent us, uh, you know, stuff that makes you smell better. And then, uh, you know, they sent me this great, uh, some boxers, you what you get right, protect them. And then, uh, you know, they sent me this cool, uh, sack, I guess you want to call it to store all your stuff in. So, uh, it's been great. Manscaped sent me a bunch of product. Um, you know, and you know, you can see it all on here. Uh, you know, you can go to Manscaped dot com and put in the code. Uh, Gus Frerotte at G. U S. F R E R O T T E. Get 20% off and free shipping when you use that code, but you can get a kit, you can get individual items like, uh, this way cool rumor that has a little led light, um, ceramic. Uh, these things come apart, they're waterproof. You can do a lot with them. So, you know, man scape is great. You know, it's funny game. I remember when I was playing with the Denver broncos and I'm not going to mention any names. But there was a gentleman who was playing on our team. And uh, you know, if you ever hears the story, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. But, uh, he brought his own clippers in one time and he used it to trim his beard up his goatee and everything and he had him there for about two or three weeks and he goes in around the corner, he walks...

...in and there's a person, another player that is actually manscaping with his beard trimmer. So you know, one of the things is, you don't want to use the same trimmer down there that you use up here. So uh he kind of freaked out a little bit and he said, hey, how long have you been using that tool there? And he said, well, showed up here about three weeks ago and I've been using it ever since, so you know, there is a lesson learned that, you know, don't leave things out and probably if it would have just said manscaped on it, we wouldn't have had that issue, but it's probably one of the funniest, uh taking care of your ball stories I've ever heard or been around in the locker room in the NFL, so it's a great story. Um, but you know, I always said there was no way to know, there's no name on it and the guy was just using it and another guy was using, it was not good, but it's a heck of a funny story, so one of the best I've ever heard in my 15 years playing in the league. Um but you know, there's so many great things about manscaped and what they're doing because guys, you got to take care of yourself even though I got great hair, um and getting older but you still have to maintain some sort of grooming right? And so you know we all work out for me. I like working in my yard doing those things now that I'm retired. Get a little sweat on and everything. You want to smell good. You know you got to take care of yourself. They've got some great products um uh you know this one a little uh you all deodorant, we'll need that here and there. Um After you know working the yard taking a hike doing a walk whatever you do. Um It's a great thing but there's so many great products. Um I want to thank Manscaped for sending them to me. Um uh The lawnmower 3.0. Obviously you can use it anywhere in your body but I'm sure you guys have all seen the commercials. But this is one just letting you know that the lawnmower three point oh comes with the perfect kit. You can buy the lawnmower by itself by all these products individually. They even sent me this wonderful shirt. You can see the back, your balls will thank you and then here's the front so it's an awesome shirt. They have great gear. And you know what? Sometimes you can just sit back take care of your balls a little bit and and and read the paper. So Manscaped even has their own daily news do so which is great. So don't forget that you can go to the code Gus Frerotte and that's G. U. S. F. R. E. R. O. T. T. E. D. Uh and you can save 20% on any products, the complete the perfect uh package gift set and uh you know you can save 20% and get free shipping. So use the code Gus Frerotte. G. U. S. F. R. E. R. O. T. T. E. Hey everybody spells my name wrong, they even spelled wrong back my pro bowl jersey. So you know, I gotta I gotta help you guys out. So don't forget how important it is that you use these products, take care of yourself down below uh and have some fun right, there's nothing closer to you than your little bugs. So use the lawnmower uh use the Code Gus Frerotte save 20% and get free shipping and uh order some great Manscaped products. Uh Yeah I so I started to take chances. I did think that we're kind of out of the ordinary unusual. I stopped being afraid to fail and it was like okay if it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't it's a learning experience. And once I kind of got over that and started doing that without without the fear of failure of getting rejected if I have to do something and got to know things just kind of opened up things really opened up and and you know that that that was my advice, I think the guys don't don't just kind of put yourself in a trap, don't put yourself in a hole and think that what you do is the only thing that you can do when you're done playing football. There's so much time in your life left, God willing, don't be afraid to try the things you're allowed to be great at more than just one profession. Yeah, and I love that you do so much. I mean you're on G. M. A. There's stories...

...about you, you you do NFL on Fox, but you also give back to the communities Bert. I think you said it's little here, you know, he's asking about the mental health with the vets and athlete communities and you do such a good job. I think it's called emerging vets and players. You're part of M. V. P. Vets and players. Yeah. And you do such a good job. Talks a little bit about how you've had so much success in your life and how you look like, I think that's just part of athletes that we love to give back to our communities and you do such a good job of that. Well, I think when you're an athlete, you kind of a you go to these communities and in order to put you make yourself a part of them, you have to get back. I think team do a great job of making you aware of the needs of the community and I think we all want to be a part of it and merge investing players was created by my best friend, Jay Glazer, who now works will be at Fox at his kitchen table. He basically wrote it out on a napkin and he made it happen and I'm so proud of him for that. So I've always been there to support them. My dad's a vet. What you know? Yeah. So I mean, how could I'm around military my entire life. So to make sure that they have everything that they needed or as much as you can be there to support them, I want to be there. And j put it the best way we all as football players, as athletes as military. We also were also used to teams in our teams and everything become our family. But when the game is over or when you get out of the military, you yourself, it's over. You lose your family. It feels like you're lonely and you need support. And that's what merging veteran players. Does it give you that support you need? So that you always have a team. You always have like minded people who are there to support you and listen to you. And the first meeting I ever went to, you know jay started this gym called Unbreakable in L. A. And they mm a based group training workouts and what they would do. They would work out for like half an hour or so and then they would sit in a circle with all the vets and they would just talk and somebody would open up and talk about their experience and they were vets who would sit there and wouldn't talk for a month, a year. And then one day they just open up and you talked about tears, tears man. Because they have been through the wringer athletes in tears because they are part of this of course to special it really is a special program. So I'm probably j for creating and I'm proud of these guys would be so welcoming to let you know. I mean I yeah, I get it because my dad was in the korean war and he would never talk to it and talk to me about it unless he got drunk. I've seen two times in his life and that was the only time he would tell me stories being over there because they just didn't want to talk to him. My wife's grandfather was in World War Two. He was in Pearl Harbor. He never wanted to talk to it until my daughter got him on camera and ask them questions. So we talk about our dads, right? And I know how good of a dad you are because I've read all the stories about how you're flying all over the place. But you take so much time to be with your kids. So tell me a little bit about that. I love it man. Like, you know, it's about priorities, I guess, and I love the smile, like soon as I mentioned your kids, you just, it's about priorities and you know, I have four kids and I still have to to or out of school and working and I have my, my twins who are juniors in high school and you have so many opportunities every day to do something happened, that I have that. And yesterday there was some, you know, some big dinners and business things and then there's another dinner with some friends at this cool new spot in Manhattan and I said no, I'm good and I was sitting in the bleachers watching a volleyball game, the most uncomfortable bleachers, wouldn't you like to sit there and watch my daughter, My girls play volleyball um was really something and one didn't play yesterday, so she came in and watched her sister because they're in separate schools, but it was like, man, it's like the biggest thrill because I'm literally going, oh my goodness, I can see what my parents felt like watching me to watch her compete and I think there's so many lessons that I learned when you're competing and especially with the T and a team atmosphere, so I absolutely love it, it's about priorities, it's about, you know, just spending time with them as much as I can because at one point there a few years there in college, they're out of the house, I'm lonely, they have to move into a copy like Rodney Dangerfield and go back to school just to be around my kids. Well, you come to Pittsburgh, we'll go golfing, but I'm the same way my kids, just my last, my youngest just graduated from Delaware and it's such a treat actually, the boys are home because we're both looking for jobs, right? The Covid was really the pandemic was really hard for him. Gabe did an internship at the Hall of Fame this summer, which was amazing. You were probably there, he probably was standing right behind you, which was hilarious, but I want you to, can you express to our fans and everybody who's...

...listening, kind of like, put it into words of, of how this success that you've had. Um it wasn't easy, like the struggle that you went through your whole life to make this the person who you are, because I've read so many stories about you and the mental health and the things you do it, I'm so proud of you, because I've gone through mental health stuff since I quit playing, you had when you were in high school and you've just pushed yourself through all this and please tell our fans a little bit about like what it takes just to have that grit. Well, I think so, you know, that's what I'm, you know, I'm the focus of on ESPN. Plus it's more than an athlete season to last year's season was on Lebron this year they followed me around and the reason I wanted to do that is because I wanted to show people that it all wasn't smooth, that people think I just showed up and he's a football player, oh man, that thing, he's on tv, it just all happened but it didn't all happen that way. I mean I was a kid in Germany, the only reason I got into football because when I was 13 I was, my brother and my brothers and their friends called me bob, yeah, the nickname right bob and I'm the youngest of six kids for boys and I'm like oh bob, I got a nickname, my brothers and their friends, that means I'm cool and part of the group until one of them told me that bob meant booty on back, I was heavy kid, so uh it that I bought the herschel walker workout book and I bought the jane fonda VHS tapes and you wait back then and I used to do all that stuff during commercial breaks of, of tv shows and my dad saw that and started working out with me when I was 13 and for the next 3.5 years we went to the gym almost every single day and worked out together, so how how often did you check your bob? Oh man, I still check for the boss bob, don't come back, but it was interesting because that was such a and I think because of that my dad saw my work. I think he saw how I didn't like something. I was willing to work for it. Like making something that I wanted. That. That's why he trusted me to go to the state to get a scholarship. But it also taught me that if you don't like something in your life, do you have the opportunity to change it? It's up to you. It's not up to someone else. Um, to change it for you. We all wish that thing could be given to us at times. And, and, but for the most part, you just have to earn the opportunity or take advantage of the opportunity when it's there. And it hasn't always been easy. I, I've had so many no's and so many rejections and and the football stuff I wanted to quit in college and my dad was the only reason I went back and he basically said you're not coming home so you better figure it out. And it made me realize I, I had to get a job. You mom and dad would continue to take care of me. You became it, you know, and so I worked hard at everything that I've ever done and to go from football to what I do now was it's such a different business, Such a complete different mindset to, to leave even to do Fox um was scary And I knew I had a job when I retired. I was still scared. I still struggle mentally because my identity identify myself as a football player, not a guy who necessarily talks about, it's not the same field, but being there on set now with those guys for 14 years, it's like this is a close to a locker room and I'm gonna get, yeah, but I'm amazing locker room. Yeah. And I'm very happy with it because a bunch of guys who just want best for everybody and the best for this show and we laugh and we get to watch the game that we all love to play. So you guys get to, you know, you got Terry there. I mean it's gonna, you're probably gonna laugh all day along with him. You know, you laugh more with the guys. We all laughed more when the cameras often we than those on the air and we don't know what each other is going to say. So I don't know when terry's gonna start start telling the joke about pals or something like we don't know me. That's like the locker room, people don't see what our locker rooms were like. They were the best. You know, I uh, the memories, you know that some of the locker room stuff was so good. But, but I love, I love what I do. You're, you're great at this by the way. I mean it's so great. You're either to talk to you smooth like you have other gifts. We all have other gifts you just have to not be afraid to try to tap into those. Yes. And like I said, don't be afraid you're gonna be told no. Before I before I did live with kelly, I would go on on Ellen de generous this show. Oh yeah. And and, and so I went to L. A. And I did it quite a few times and they actually, the production company came to me and said we would like to give you know, work with you to get to produce your own show. And I was like really, really yeah, we want to incubate you on Ellen,...

...we put you on Ellen all these times and let let you know the audience, get to know you and then we bring you in, we want to see, you know, we need you to go out and kind of put it together, find a co host someone you think you get five with. So I put out all these feelers, man reached out to so many um people and the amount of nose or the amount of non responses stuff isn't it? That's hard, hard wow. And you know when I went on the show when I got that when I took over for regis I never thought I'd get that job. That's why I was on that show and I just was acting carefree because like I can't lose a job that I'm not going to get. And then once I got the job I realized being yourself on tv is what people want to see and that's what they want, the hardest thing for most people to do. So um yeah, but getting, getting that job completely was a life changing experience because it took me out of the mindset of for people as just football and and put me into a more of a mindset where you know, you recognized across all all all genres and all everybody moms, dads, grandmothers, grandfathers, sons, daughters, which was totally a trip when you're going down the street and the same guys who used to like yell at you go Giants. Yeah man, Michael, you did this with the giants also awesome to the same dudes talking about cooking segments and, and and like the story that you did on on, on G. M. A. Or on something, you're like, wow, this is a complete transformation which they're not coming back. Hey, do you remember that time you hit Gus in 96 RfK? They don't ask you that anymore. Okay, right. They ask you about G. M. A. Right G. M. A. One day, 100 $1000 pyramid. Yeah. Hey Yeah, I know, I know you've got another gig to go to and man, I appreciate you spending you and I think we could talk for hours and have just best, but hopefully you can come back some time. But you know, let all our fans know where they can find you, how they can uh, you know what you're doing, Obviously we all know what you're doing today, but give him a shout out what you're doing, where they can find you. All right, okay. What am I doing? Well, you can get the on Good morning America every morning, 7 to 9 a.m. Fox, NFL sunday every sunday. And um, what time do we start? L. A. We're at nine, which is noon on the east coast. Um, $100,000 pyramid. We just finished season six that just finished. So no more of that for right now, more than an athlete is out now. Today is the third episode on ESPN Plus, yes, yes. If you want to get some clothes and go to men's warehouse finally there, Gus all over leisure wear like Michael and you do it for the NFL to, it's amazing. You do everything, do a little bit everything, man. And um, just, just trying to just have fun. Life is short, enjoy every bit of it and do things that you love with people you love and and just maintain your happiness. Well, hey buddy, I'm really proud of you. Thank you for joining me on huddle up with Gus. I know you've got to run but all the fans can stay around. I'm gonna answer some of their questions and get back to him. Hopefully Michael, we can do this again someday and maybe we can go hit the little white golf ball sometime and, and you can, you can pummel me again. Oh please. You'll beat me at golf, your quarterback. All you got a better. I'm not a kicker, I'm a quarterback. I'm not, Yeah, they have practiced early. They would all go, it's both kickers, quarterbacks, d lineman way, that's just because you're 66 and they don't make clubs that long. I appreciate you man. Thank you for having me. I'm, you know, I'll be back on the program for sure, no doubt. Alright, thanks buddy. Hey, good luck with everything. Thank you. Got right. Hey, everyone that was, uh, what I guess, Mike was, I'm sorry, we couldn't get all the questions Michael had to go, but hey, there's a lot of questions out there and you know, I'm here. If you want to ask some questions, we can go through them. Uh, would love to answer your questions. We've had some incredible people watching everybody on, uh, you know, if you want to talk NFL whatever you want to talk about, um, you know, Michael, what an incredible guest. I don't, I literally was, I mean, I have terrible handwriting, but I was trying to write down everything that he does, you know, and it's just amazing that Michael has transitioned into this credible, incredible entrepreneur and has taken everything like he said, he was so good at his job and it led him to so many other things and you can't be afraid to step into it. I know I've been afraid to try to transition into certain things and you just got to go and do it just like when I started this podcast and good things will come from it. But anybody got any questions out there for me, um, in regards to uh, um, you know, the NFL or anything, uh, let's see who we got on here. Let's go...

...to some questions. I think Michael gave Jan some great advice. Um, Pamela, you gotta, you had a question for Michael about, hey Jason, how you doing buddy? You want to come on, Jason, help me out here. Of course, we got champions. Jason on here from super. Uh, Jason, what do you think, How do, how do you think it went today? First of all, I think you're a consummate professional and I think it went very smoothly as somebody who hosts shows here on Super. I'm learning a lot and I've been taking notes as well. Um, I think Michael is a fascinating guy, I think he's a brilliant guy and honestly, um, probably one of the nicest people you could have started your time on super with. I think it was a heck of a bar to set. It's great. Yeah, no, it was, he was wonderful. What a personality, you know, and, and I knew he had to go, but the great thing was, he just kept talking, it's not like I was making him stay like Michael, you know, when you have two people that love to talk a lot, sometimes he shows me going forever. Yeah. Right. So uh yeah, go for it. So there's run believe he asked, what's the best part of living in pennsylvania now, Jason, you you're from D. C. It's true. I'm from Pittsburgh. Living in Pennsylvania to me is I love the four seasons, right? I love the cooler weather. Sometimes we get it nice and hot, but I love the change, you know, Pittsburgh growing up and one of my favorite things ever. A lot of places have friday night lights, but I think Western pennsylvania always had the best. I mean, I've spent some time in Pittsburgh. I do I do love Western pennsylvania. I mean any place where I can go to uh Primanti brothers, you know, I can go and I can get a sandwich. I know Primanti brothers, you think I like, I'm some sort of cold on your sandwich. Come on. Like this is my first rodeo. I know good sandwiches and I know where to go to get good sandwiches in Pittsburgh. Um But truthfully, I think I'm with you, I do love that about the mid atlantic in general. I mean, certainly in D. C. We had, you know, four seasons as well. I think the one downside though is that uh you know, I mean, don't get me wrong, you know, Pittsburgh's a fine town, but the football team there man, just, just perfectly average. I would say, I hope we don't have any Steelers nation on here. They're going to come after you. You know what? I, I welcome the opportunity. I mean, it's not as bad as philadelphia, let's be clear. But you know, no, I just don't, I probably would agree with you on that one. I mean, you know, is, you know, a fight between Washington and new york who loses the answer is Philly. Um but no, I mean, I think, I think uh, you know, I, I loved it since I'm here, I'd love to ask you a quick question. I mean, you've done this, you've interviewed all sorts of folks, you know, both, you know, sort of uh minor niche folks from the NFL all the way to guys like Michael or even, you know, some of my favorite Washington votes like Michael, Michael Wilbon. Um I just love to ask who's been your favorite interview so far man. I have had so many incredible people that people that um uh, he was on one of them was, was just the other day, I interviewed Matthew, Lawrence, I don't know if you remember Matthew from um sorry, Matthew forgot you, but he's he was a dad on nine oh 21 oh um he was in Eddie and the cruisers, he was the guitar player and it's just sometimes when you get on here and you connect with people and people that you've never met before. Like, I know Michael, but I don't know. No Michael and sometimes you just connect with people every one of my guests, maybe except for two or three. I've connected with them all. And we have such a good conversation. And I think what Michael said is so true that if you're just who you are, even when you do a podcast and you don't try to be fake or false, it always comes through and that's who I really try to be when I interview my guess. But uh, I mean, I've had some credit, my, one of my favorite was when I had Coach Ditka on such a great interview. So I had my dick on, we're interviewing him and you know, I'd ask him questions and he go, well, I don't know. And then all of a sudden you hear his wife in the background say, ah, that was, you know, so and so from back then, right. So she was like, you were interviewing the wrong person. Yeah, she probably members more than coach, but I've had some incredible, uh, people on and it's been so much fun to interview them and get to know them well, I'm gonna want to step away for a moment and give you space to be able to bring other people on. But I do want to call out Rich Daniel in the chat is asking about describing RFK Stadium and I'd love, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it as a player there because as a fan I not only went to go see you play there, but also I went to concerts there. I mean anybody from the D. C. Area went to the HF festival there every year. And like you know, I mean I I have now I go to you know, I used to go to C. D. C. United play there and it still feels that kind of like defining monument to sort of old D. C. Sports in a lot of ways. You know it really was hitting and Michael hit the nail on the head. Like uh I know my man Rich Rich Rich was uh he was a film guy...

...with Rennie not, they used to come in and and you know he would be the guy behind the camera all the time and and he actually I collect old vintage baseball cards. So Rich sold me his whole collection one time and I got so many comments out of it that I was so excited right? It was awesome. So thank you Rich. But going back to the RFK thing and Michael was right when you would come out even before the game, the fans were so close and there was so much, I'm trying to think of the word because you had the hog, it's were there yet the band there. Um and the energy of the stadium was incredible because they were right on top of you. And then when you would be beating the cowboys, Right, the bleachers, which never happened nearly often enough. The bleachers would just like the fans would be going crazy the bleachers and then monty Coleman would stand up on the bench and each swing of town. It was just everything. And I never, even though I played 15 years and a lot of stadiums, I never felt that same energy again. I get it. I mean, as a resident, you know, I mean, Fedex Field is a beautiful field. I've gone to lots of great games there, but it's not, it's not the same. And there's something obviously it's probably structurally not the safest place to be anymore. And I'm sure when you play there probably wasn't that way. Yeah. Well, it's not my favorite place for many reasons, but we don't have imagined. Yeah. I can't imagine telling anybody of that because they probably know the whole story. But the other, my other favorite thing about RFK was, you know, I was playing there and I don't know why, but I got to know the people at RFK. They gave me a sparking spot underneath the stadium and when my daughter Abby was little pull up into the stadium, I mean park and sunny Jorgenson and sam huff. We're always right there because they called the games and sam huff would always come over and pull abby out of her car seat and walk around and take her and my wife up to the elevator to where they would go up to their seats and I would go into the locker room or whatever and then I'd go out and see sonny like those things to me like just were amazing and it makes me sad that I don't get to do that anymore. But what inexperience with those people. I love it. I wish, I wish that we had more stories like that from modern stadiums. But it sounds to me like he had pretty good, pretty good experiences there and that's got to count for something I love. Did you see what Paula McCoy said? She said I I remind her of jay Leno. Well, I mean I'm not funny at all. So you both have strong chins. I think that's a good start. Mine has been growing over the years. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing and it just might be a thing. Don't I mean listen, I'm in my late thirties, I'm starting to find gray hairs everywhere. You and I are going to be identical twins in about five minutes. Your kids all graduate from college and yeah, went through that, that's where all these comes. I mean I've been thinking about that that those checks alone. I'm starting to grow. Um well I'm going to get out of your way. Listen thanks for you know that was a great chat with Michael. I know I speak for everybody in the audience when I say that, that we hope that there's more of that to come and you know, great job hosting. I'm gonna let you chat with other folks, but thanks again for bringing me up. All right, great, yeah, thanks. Hey Jason, thank you so much for having us and hosting us and uh, come on any time and obviously I'm gonna be here for you and and we're gonna get this thing rolling. Can't wait. All right. I'll get off stage. I'll talk to you later. All right, thank you buddy. That's our show, everyone. Thank you for joining us on the huddle up with Gus um, I appreciate you listening. I want to thank Sounder FM for hosting us. I want to thank 16 31 digital news and don't forget to go Vegas sports advantage, put in my code, huddle up, save 25% and win some cash. So thanks again to Amy Trask, Go check out her book and check her out at Amy Trask on twitter. She's the reason they made twitter. So, thanks for joining me on how to open Thats a wrap sports fan. Thanks for joining in the fun at the studio. 31 digital studios for another huddle up with Gus featuring 15 year NFL quarterback Gus Theron, Hard left with Gus is proudly produced by 1631 digital media and is available are at the music.

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