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Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

Episode · 2 months ago

Michael Strahan

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Welcome to the Huddle with 15-year NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte! It’s a special time in the huddle as the remarkable Michael Strahan joins Gus to talk about the old days, the current ones and what’s in the future for this athlete turned multi-talented and media pro. Gus and Michael relive old times and a few hits Michael delivered to Gus, some which have Gus’ clock wound his clock even to current times! Thanks for joining Gus and Michael in the huddle! 

Hey everyone, Welcome to anotherepisode of huddle up with Gus, I'm your host, former NFL quarterback GusFrerotte and welcome to the new 16 31 digital new studio. You know, somepeople say no news is good news. Well I say to those people you've never read.16 31 digital news dot com. Go to 16 31 digital news dot com to get your latestnews, sports, music and entertainment and maybe even listen to your favoritepodcast. Follow up with Gusts. Check it out today at www. 16 31 digital newsdot com. Huddle up with Gusts is brought to you by Vegas sportsadvantage, clients of Vegas sports advantage are winning big in 2021 youcan be a part of the winning two. As of june 1st $100. Bettors are up $3700 500dollars. Bettors are up $18,500 and $1000 Bettors are up $37,000 and $5000.Bettors are up $185,000 become inclined today by clicking the link in thedescription below and use promo code, huddle up To take 25% off your packagetoday. Thanks to our partnership. Welcome to what surely will be a doozyof a matchup Ryan here sports fans. Whether your game is on the gridiron atthe diamond or on the links, we can only say, okay, welcome to this week's huddle upwith gusts, 15 year NFL quarterback Gus parents passion for sports has takenhim on the field and behind the bench is playing for seven NFL franchiseswith 114 TVs under his belt. Gus knows who the players are and how the gamesare one. Uh, it's not every day you get to hang out with an NFL quarterback up.Okay, sports fans from the decked out and plush 16 31 digital studios, it'skick off time. So snap your chin straps on, get ready to huddle up guys. Allright. Hey, everyone got out here with huddle up with us, 15 year NFLquarterback. We're live here on the new super platform brought to you by theNFL alumni ventures and I'm so excited today. Uh, we're still our same oldpodcast. We're going to talk to incredible guests. You know, we've hadsome incredible people on. But this person today, I don't even have enoughtime. It would just take the whole time just to introduce everything that he'sdoing. But obviously you guys can see him, he played for the Giants. Uh, he'sa two time Emmy winner, two time Super Bowl champ, co host of GM on abc. Hehas M. S. X. Which is an F leisure line. Uh, you can check that out. He's ananalyst on Fox. He's a partner at uh Um, Smack Entertainment. He hosts $100,000pyramid. I can't even go on anymore. Now with me is Michael strahan, Michael,How do you do it all buddy man, you got me one in here and all that. I'm likesleep. Oh man, I do all great things. I do all fun things. So I guess if it'sfun, you know it doesn't really feel like work and I just kind of wake upand go about my day and do everything I that's just in front of me. So it'schallenging stuff man. You know, you you used to play football used to achallenge. This is a new challenge and a whole different, you know, it's awhole different challenge for you. Yeah, it's something completely different andI didn't think I could do this. Who thought I could do this? I don't thinkmany people did. So this is just a way for me to kind of get out there andburn off some energy and creates a success. So when you played for theGiants, your commute to work was probably as long as it takes you tokeep you from new york to L. A. When you drove. I tell you what man, I spendmore time on planes Thinking about it. I I spent a little bit more timebetween all the jobs on air than I do on planes per week because I spend youknow over 10 hours on the plane a week. G. M. A. is 10 hours. No GMOs eighthours because I don't do Monday during football season. Oh you know I actuallyspend more time on the plane. They actually spend working, you just helpme get out holy smoke. Yeah, I mean, I mean that's got to be kind of hard, Imean you fly a lot. I don't know how many, how many miles you put it, Ican't stand to be on a plane because now he's hurt. My back hurts. Yes, it'sgreat. You know what's great because it is quiet. Yeah, like six hours of quietgoing in like 4.5 hours of quiet coming back and I get to catch up on moviethat I get to catch up on sleep. What what show are you watching? Oh man, youknow what I am? I'm letting ted lasso build up the second season of ted lassobuild up. I'm caught up on billions, I'm caught up on Godfather of Harlem,I've been watching this show called Clickbait, I have one more episode, isthat good? I haven't even watched, I saw that one. You know what? It'sactually been interesting I think I'm...

...hoping which I'm thinking this lastepisode to try to teach us a lesson about the internet and what you believe.Do you believe everything? You see? Uh type of situation? But it's been prettygood so far. Been interesting. Yeah, that's awesome. My wife and I, we watchhs american horror story, that's our, that's our show right now. So That's acrazy one. That's a good one that they they are nuts man, those guys, they puton some great great shows. So tell me we're gonna go back my show is allabout how sports shapes your life. I knew you were born in Houston, you grewup in Germany and I've heard your stories, I've I've obviously researchedyou um and you talk about how that transition from being over in Germanyall those years to coming back to the states was really difficult for you.Can you explain about how you fell in love with sports because it had to be abig transition for you? Well uh I played football and I was seven andeight years old at fort Bragg north Carolina being and my dad was in themilitary moved to Germany and and the extent of my football was it wasnothing, I watched it on tv like every other kid I watched all sports on tvand just thought oh I can do that if it would have been baseball. Oh I couldhave done that. Basketball. Oh I don't know if I could have done that. Oh yeahyou definitely, yeah I would just get rid of the kid. You see something on tvand guys that you admired that you think oh I can do that too. So bysinging your high school with my dad just said, hey go back, you're going togo to the state, you're gonna stay here uncle you're gonna get a scholarship. Ijust never doubted it. Not not because I wasn't afraid or I wasn't nervous. So,but because I was too naive to understand how hard it was supposed tobe to get a scholarship no matter what school, I didn't understand how hardfootball was, I understand how hard it was to work out with my dad. Yeah, Iunderstood how much it was a different kind of workout. Yeah. Like my dadwould wake us up to go running during the summer like 4 30 in the morning,five in the morning. We're running in the woods for hours and all thosethings kind of translated when I came back to the states to play like okaymom and I'm willing to work hard and then I know I, I can create anopportunity and that's the way I've always looked at, I've never been themost talented guy. I've just always been a guy who's willing to work hardand willing to study hard because as you know, football is as important.It's the challenges more mental to me. At one point, it was more a mentalchallenge than it was necessarily a physical challenge. And once I've kindof got the mental part down, understood how to um, you know, have differentlevels of intensity, how to like have a switch. Look at it. You guys come up tothe line, I could look at the play and look at your formation and go, oh wait,now that guy that I saw that picture of somebody at texas Southern universitywith a shirt on, What was that guy like in college? I was a nice mild manneredguy and I really was your edge didn't come out yet. Huh? My edge didn't comeout yet on the football field. I was hustling running guy technique wise. Idid not have much, but I was just going to run and run and run into the tackleeventually fell over and gave me or just like just too tired to block mewhat I was going to do and in the pros a lot of my game was built on on just Iused to think about Mike Tyson as a fighter. Like what made Mike Tyson themost feared fighter in the league in the world. Is that Mike Tyson wouldjust keep pressure on you. He once he came out the pressure was justunbearable. He was always in your face. Yeah. And as a pass rusher, that was mything. Just bull bull rush to keep the pressure on you until eventually you'regoing to kind of give up something was that was older, I learned how to, youknow, kind of have more of a game plan when it came to pass rusher. Yeah, butthat was that a little bit of your dad, right? Because like when I would gethit, my dad was always in the back of my head saying get up right? And foryou thinking about like how your dad was in the military, how he worked outhow he did all those things to me, it's like, don't we don't quit, right? Andthat was that part of it for you? Well it was weird because my dad was more ofthe working out part and being tired like we don't quit if I got hit on thefield and I felt it and I was like, oh that hurt. That get up was more of mymom. My mom would be like boys, you better get off that ground. Nobody toldyou to go play, you wouldn't play it on your own. So you know my mind not ajoke when it came to that like she was one of those moms gonna run out thereand push everybody got my baby wouldn't do that. You chose to be out here, yousuck it up. And so but as far as like out there working and running and whenit got tough, I definitely thought about my dad when it was like angeredand I really just can't have the cart...

...come out here and pick me up off thisfield. That was my mom. Yeah. Okay. I I understand that. So you're texassouthern. It's not a huge school. It's kind of like Tulsa. I go to D. C. Youwent to new york in 93. How big of a like a shock was that for you becauseyou're on a giant and there's some incredible players there. It's in themedia capital of the world, right? So there's all these new things for you.What was that like for you? Well, I come to new york and I, when I went toGermany to the Houston to go to college in high school, that senior highschools in college, I left Houston, I thought Houston whether the fastestcity in the world, that man, this place is just buzzing. So what's going onhere? Until I came to new york the first day here, I said, I will neverlive in the city. I will never drive in this city. I don't know why they pickedme to come to this city because this place is crazy. And then I ended up inum is at the stadium and I'll never forget Lawrence Taylor walked into thatlocker room and I remember him just floating in there. He was like a God tome when it came to the game of football so much film, like a bunch of crazydogs and have some fun. Like I watched everything that Lawrence Taylor did. Soit was, it was unbelievable to be on the team with him and then be, you know,scout team right on the opposite side of him running the plays or walkthrough like I'm the offensive player that he has to play against and itreally gave me a great appreciation for how hard you have to work in football.I always looked at LT is just a raw talent. Um guy was just incrediblefootball player. But once I got closer, I kind of looked under the hood, I cansee that this is a guy who understood the game in practice and not saying hepracticed every day, maybe a few days. But when he practiced every time he'son that field he was 100% all out, there was no play and scout team but hewas not or and and and the drills where he was not all out and scout team, hewould sometimes tell the young guys I want to do scout team, I want to mimicthe other offense, other defense for our team to get better and he would goall out there and I just learned from that like well as hard as you practiceis what you're going to get out of yourself in the game. If you cheatyourself practice, if you cheat yourself in the weight room, you cheatyourself with the running and all these other sprints and trying to get inshape. You won't be prepared on sunday to be successful. You can be mediocre.You can pass but as a player but you won't pass is a great player. Right?Right. Yeah, that makes a difference. I learned that from Darryl Greene, my, myrookie year when I'm doing scout team and I'm throwing the ball where thecoaches circle, right? They circled the spot for the defense because theywanted to all look good. And Daryl goes, what are you doing? I said I'm thrownto the guy. They tell me too, they go, no heroes, no, you're not making me anybetter, you're not making you any better throw it where you're supposedto throw it. And then so I did that, the coaches defensive coach yelled atme, Darryl said leave him alone and that was it. I was like, okay, I'mgonna do what happened, you know, and that's why Darryl Green is like you ina Hall of Famer. Yeah, Darryl Greene was amazing, man. And Darryl can stillrun a 4 to 40 I think, man, that is fast, fast. I'll never forget himrunning down the Dickerson of Dorset or somebody was like who is this guy? Yeah,but I found that that that you know, all great players and a guy likeyourself, you last so many years in the league, you don't do that by mistake.It's not by mistake, it's not they don't give you a job because they feelsorry for you, they don't give you a job because you're just good enough.They only give you because you can really contribute help and it takes alot of work to get into the NFL and it takes a hell of a lot of work to stayin the NFL and you know, I think I think I can I can I answer. Yeah. So Iwas gonna ask you, john Garrett has a question for you. She says, what advicewould Michael give young NFL players to help them ensure success in the leagueand also be successful beyond the game. I think that's a perfect questionMichael. I agree. And jen great question. Thank you. I think that forme, always focus on your primary job, Yeah. Your primary job right now at 20something years old. Whatever whatever it may be is too, is that yourprofessional football player, professional athletes don't getdistracted by the other trappings or other things that come around where youthink you want to own this company and be this rap star and on that recordlabel and on this business, those things are distractions and you have to focus on what's important,what really helps you earn a living if you can be a great football player or agreat athlete opens up so many other doors and every other avenue of whatyou want to do and learn and use those, use the app and use the, the fact thatyou are that professional athletes to...

...get yourself into rooms. Now, once youget in that room, you need to prove that you can stay in that room. Youneed to start to understand why you're in that room and what that business is.If there's something that you're interested in, don't be afraid tointern, don't be afraid to be humble And and I understand that in everybusiness everybody starts at the bottom. You didn't grow up and just like comeout of the wound, a great football player, just like you're not going togo into every other business and be great. So I would say focused on yourprimary job as an athlete and once you have that down then you can start to dosome things and dabble and, and, and, and and take some more energy, as longas you don't take too much away or enough away to affect your game and putinto other things and and also learned that everybody has great ideas as longas it comes out of your checkbook. So if your money get somewhere and learnoff somebody else's dime. So if you ever want to start a business of yourown, then you, you've, you've learned off somebody else's financialentrepreneurship is tough, isn't it? It's very tough and I've done it and Ido it and it has been very tough, Everything does not work, Things fail.Um you gotta know when to let go sometimes, but I think the biggestthing is you have to understand your strengths, your weaknesses, who you canwork with, who you can't work with, You have to understand how to build a teambecause teams are so important outside of the game of football, that's thething that I learned to multiple football that carry over the businessis building a great team and having great people around you and um, makesmakes your work a lot easier to make your life a lot easier. Yeah. All right.Hey, I got a question. So you traveled so much. You said you're on the plane.Gunnar wants to know, do you ever have time to golf? Oh yeah. Come on Gunner.I'm playing golf. I am on the plane tomorrow, right after work and I willget off that plane and go straight to the golf course. I usually don't playon Fridays, but I have somebody who want to play in California on friday.So I'll play on friday. Then I will again play on saturday and then I willwork all day, sunday. Fly back to new york and I will play on monday and thenI'll work all week and do it all over again. So, absolutely man. Golf is my,that's my thing. All right. All right. So I want to, I want to transition thisinto a play that you and I were part of, right? And I want to know if you hityour driver as hard as you hit me. So this video right here. Hmm, it's prettytough. You're on the end. All joe Patton gets burned. Oh, he picks theball up. Like you even help me up. He wouldn't pick the ball up. Almost joePatton picked it up. Oh my gosh. Like God I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I've neverhad to you. I'm sorry. I I'm still here though. I'm okay. I remember that playlike yesterday, I remember my mindset like yesterday because that was like,that was my third year in the league. I was young. I was I was a strong bull, alittle young bull, right? I didn't understand the mechanics of not themechanic but how to set up a game plan to pass rush. That's what I waslearning to like show a guy something and like sleight of hand, let make himlook like I'm gonna do this and then do that whole game. I've been giving him abull rushing around the outside edge and then I said, I have him set up andwhy you got to score That was a two point play convert and I and I itworked actually, I was surprised when I said, oh my God, my plan worked. I'vebeen playing that. Let me give him something different at work and gus arestill holding the ball but walter is holding the bottom like, let's hold it.Just hold it, don't let it go. I'm almost saying, mother and people maythink I'm very, very primal but being out there on the football field, it iskind of survival of the fittest. And it's like I looked at it as that you orme on every play. Yeah, definitely. I couldn't think about the game. It'slike every single play. I have to beat you. It's me or you were gonna watchfilm tomorrow and I'm either going to get a plus or minus. I want a lot morepluses than minuses and I'm running at you and as primal leather was, I'llnever forget. I am thinking you're just standing there man, looking so prettyand sweet and I'm like put your helmet, I want to hit you so hard in your spinethat it comes out the front of your chest. Well, I'll have to think likethat. That's what I was thinking. I believe you. So I show my son's rightthe other day I showed them this video and they sell when they were younger,but I showed him the video and you know what they said? They said dad, why didyou hold on the ball so long? So they're like on your side. What isgoing on here? What you got some smart kids? They have a point. We're holdingit. You gotta have that internal clock.

Yeah. Well that 1.5 2nd internal clock.Yeah, but that is the hardest I've ever hit anybody in my entire career by far.And I've been asked and I said gus for Rod Washington, 1995. The hardest hitI've ever hit anybody and RFK I think he, I think the bleachers were bouncingafter that. I hit the ground and all the bleachers were bouncing man. I butthe thing is like I love that stadium. I know it was beat up and I know yougot to come out with a lot of that dugout. I love the grass. I love theproximity of the fans to you on the bench. Like that was a special placeman. And I go to these new stadiums even even when the Giants play Metlife,not Giants Stadium, what I'm saying, I know there, it's kind of cool off alittle bit of the grit. Oh yeah, Giants stay and they used to open those bigdoors in the end zone and uh, when we had the ball, when that wind would begoing crazy and it would get so cold and then our defense will go out andthey close the doors. Yeah, smart. So, um, tell me about now, you know, we'vewe've gone over a lot of this, your your career was amazing and now youhave this second career that's that's really hard for a lot of players to do.But we see it more and more today with players and you were right out there infront. So tell me what advice you would give us as former athletes or anyone.How do you transition into something that, you know, you found what you loveto do and you're really, really good at it. I mean, and it's not, it wasn'twhat you did before. It Was complete 1 80. There's a lot of failure though,there's a lot of failure along the way. A lot of nose along the way, a lot of,a lot of that stuff that people don't see and I, I think for me, I had to getover the fact that I only saw myself as an athlete, truly. And when they saymore than an athlete, that is really, um, a true mindset because at first Iwas literally like, oh man, I'm a football player. Everybody's going tosee me as a football player. No one really gives football player that muchrespect outside of the football field when it comes to business or anythingsports. But I eventually had to get over my myself and think, you know whatpeople see you, how you see yourself, right? So if you see yourself as only afootball player, that's the energy and, or you're gonna give off and that's theother people going to see you at, yeah, Hey, how come up with uslisteners Manscaped. Well, they sent me, uh, they hooked me up with a bunch oftools and formulations for their package, three point oh Kit. Uh, so youknow, I want to show you guys what's in the perfect package, right? We allthink we got a perfect package, but they sent me the perfect package, threepoint oh kid, I want to show you what they sent me. So it was crazy. It camein this great box. Uh, you know, and you can see what it says, they willthank you because they sent us this awesome trimmer. They sent us, uh, youknow, stuff that makes you smell better. And then, uh, you know, they sent methis great, uh, some boxers, you what you get right, protect them. And then,uh, you know, they sent me this cool, uh, sack, I guess you want to call itto store all your stuff in. So, uh, it's been great. Manscaped sent me abunch of product. Um, you know, and you know, you can see it all on here. Uh,you know, you can go to Manscaped dot com and put in the code. Uh, GusFrerotte at G. U S. F R E R O T T E. Get 20% off and free shipping when youuse that code, but you can get a kit, you can get individual items like, uh,this way cool rumor that has a little led light, um, ceramic. Uh, thesethings come apart, they're waterproof. You can do a lot with them. So, youknow, man scape is great. You know, it's funny game. I remember when I wasplaying with the Denver broncos and I'm not going to mention any names. Butthere was a gentleman who was playing on our team. And uh, you know, if youever hears the story, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. But, uh,he brought his own clippers in one time and he used it to trim his beard up hisgoatee and everything and he had him there for about two or three weeks andhe goes in around the corner, he walks...

...in and there's a person, another playerthat is actually manscaping with his beard trimmer. So you know, one of thethings is, you don't want to use the same trimmer down there that you use uphere. So uh he kind of freaked out a little bit and he said, hey, how longhave you been using that tool there? And he said, well, showed up here aboutthree weeks ago and I've been using it ever since, so you know, there is alesson learned that, you know, don't leave things out and probably if itwould have just said manscaped on it, we wouldn't have had that issue, butit's probably one of the funniest, uh taking care of your ball stories I'veever heard or been around in the locker room in the NFL, so it's a great story.Um, but you know, I always said there was no way to know, there's no name onit and the guy was just using it and another guy was using, it was not good,but it's a heck of a funny story, so one of the best I've ever heard in my15 years playing in the league. Um but you know, there's so many great thingsabout manscaped and what they're doing because guys, you got to take care ofyourself even though I got great hair, um and getting older but you still haveto maintain some sort of grooming right? And so you know we all work out for me.I like working in my yard doing those things now that I'm retired. Get alittle sweat on and everything. You want to smell good. You know you got totake care of yourself. They've got some great products um uh you know this onea little uh you all deodorant, we'll need that here and there. Um After youknow working the yard taking a hike doing a walk whatever you do. Um It's agreat thing but there's so many great products. Um I want to thank Manscapedfor sending them to me. Um uh The lawnmower 3.0. Obviously you can use itanywhere in your body but I'm sure you guys have all seen the commercials. Butthis is one just letting you know that the lawnmower three point oh comes withthe perfect kit. You can buy the lawnmower by itself by all theseproducts individually. They even sent me this wonderful shirt. You can seethe back, your balls will thank you and then here's the front so it's anawesome shirt. They have great gear. And you know what? Sometimes you canjust sit back take care of your balls a little bit and and and read the paper.So Manscaped even has their own daily news do so which is great. So don'tforget that you can go to the code Gus Frerotte and that's G. U. S. F. R. E. R.O. T. T. E. D. Uh and you can save 20% on any products, the complete theperfect uh package gift set and uh you know you can save 20% and get freeshipping. So use the code Gus Frerotte. G. U. S. F. R. E. R. O. T. T. E. Heyeverybody spells my name wrong, they even spelled wrong back my pro bowljersey. So you know, I gotta I gotta help you guys out. So don't forget howimportant it is that you use these products, take care of yourself downbelow uh and have some fun right, there's nothing closer to you than yourlittle bugs. So use the lawnmower uh use the Code Gus Frerotte save 20% andget free shipping and uh order some great Manscaped products. Uh Yeah I so I started to take chances. I didthink that we're kind of out of the ordinary unusual. I stopped beingafraid to fail and it was like okay if it works it works if it doesn't itdoesn't it's a learning experience. And once I kind of got over that andstarted doing that without without the fear of failure of getting rejected ifI have to do something and got to know things just kind of opened up thingsreally opened up and and you know that that that was my advice, I think theguys don't don't just kind of put yourself in a trap, don't put yourselfin a hole and think that what you do is the only thing that you can do whenyou're done playing football. There's so much time in your life left, Godwilling, don't be afraid to try the things you're allowed to be great atmore than just one profession. Yeah, and I love that you do so much. I meanyou're on G. M. A. There's stories...

...about you, you you do NFL on Fox, butyou also give back to the communities Bert. I think you said it's little here,you know, he's asking about the mental health with the vets and athletecommunities and you do such a good job. I think it's called emerging vets andplayers. You're part of M. V. P. Vets and players. Yeah. And you do such agood job. Talks a little bit about how you've had so much success in your lifeand how you look like, I think that's just part of athletes that we love togive back to our communities and you do such a good job of that. Well, I thinkwhen you're an athlete, you kind of a you go to these communities and inorder to put you make yourself a part of them, you have to get back. I thinkteam do a great job of making you aware of the needs of the community and Ithink we all want to be a part of it and merge investing players was createdby my best friend, Jay Glazer, who now works will be at Fox at his kitchentable. He basically wrote it out on a napkin and he made it happen and I'm soproud of him for that. So I've always been there to support them. My dad's avet. What you know? Yeah. So I mean, how could I'm around military my entirelife. So to make sure that they have everything that they needed or as muchas you can be there to support them, I want to be there. And j put it the bestway we all as football players, as athletes as military. We also were alsoused to teams in our teams and everything become our family. But whenthe game is over or when you get out of the military, you yourself, it's over. You lose yourfamily. It feels like you're lonely and you need support. And that's whatmerging veteran players. Does it give you that support you need? So that youalways have a team. You always have like minded people who are there tosupport you and listen to you. And the first meeting I ever went to, you knowjay started this gym called Unbreakable in L. A. And they mm a based grouptraining workouts and what they would do. They would work out for like halfan hour or so and then they would sit in a circle with all the vets and theywould just talk and somebody would open up and talk about their experience andthey were vets who would sit there and wouldn't talk for a month, a year. Andthen one day they just open up and you talked about tears, tears man. Becausethey have been through the wringer athletes in tears because they are partof this of course to special it really is a special program. So I'm probably jfor creating and I'm proud of these guys would be so welcoming to let youknow. I mean I yeah, I get it because my dad was in the korean war and hewould never talk to it and talk to me about it unless he got drunk. I've seentwo times in his life and that was the only time he would tell me storiesbeing over there because they just didn't want to talk to him. My wife'sgrandfather was in World War Two. He was in Pearl Harbor. He never wanted totalk to it until my daughter got him on camera and ask them questions. So wetalk about our dads, right? And I know how good of a dad you are because I'veread all the stories about how you're flying all over the place. But you takeso much time to be with your kids. So tell me a little bit about that. I loveit man. Like, you know, it's about priorities, I guess, and I love thesmile, like soon as I mentioned your kids, you just, it's about prioritiesand you know, I have four kids and I still have to to or out of school andworking and I have my, my twins who are juniors in high school and you have somany opportunities every day to do something happened, that I have that.And yesterday there was some, you know, some big dinners and business thingsand then there's another dinner with some friends at this cool new spot inManhattan and I said no, I'm good and I was sitting in the bleachers watching avolleyball game, the most uncomfortable bleachers, wouldn't you like to sitthere and watch my daughter, My girls play volleyball um was really somethingand one didn't play yesterday, so she came in and watched her sister becausethey're in separate schools, but it was like, man, it's like the biggest thrillbecause I'm literally going, oh my goodness, I can see what my parentsfelt like watching me to watch her compete and I think there's so manylessons that I learned when you're competing and especially with the T anda team atmosphere, so I absolutely love it, it's about priorities, it's about,you know, just spending time with them as much as I can because at one pointthere a few years there in college, they're out of the house, I'm lonely,they have to move into a copy like Rodney Dangerfield and go back toschool just to be around my kids. Well, you come to Pittsburgh, we'll gogolfing, but I'm the same way my kids, just my last, my youngest justgraduated from Delaware and it's such a treat actually, the boys are homebecause we're both looking for jobs, right? The Covid was really thepandemic was really hard for him. Gabe did an internship at the Hall of Famethis summer, which was amazing. You were probably there, he probably wasstanding right behind you, which was hilarious, but I want you to, can youexpress to our fans and everybody who's...

...listening, kind of like, put it into words of, ofhow this success that you've had. Um it wasn't easy, like the struggle that youwent through your whole life to make this the person who you are, becauseI've read so many stories about you and the mental health and the things you doit, I'm so proud of you, because I've gone through mental health stuff sinceI quit playing, you had when you were in high school and you've just pushedyourself through all this and please tell our fans a little bit about likewhat it takes just to have that grit. Well, I think so, you know, that's whatI'm, you know, I'm the focus of on ESPN. Plus it's more than an athlete seasonto last year's season was on Lebron this year they followed me around andthe reason I wanted to do that is because I wanted to show people that itall wasn't smooth, that people think I just showed up and he's a footballplayer, oh man, that thing, he's on tv, it just all happened but it didn't allhappen that way. I mean I was a kid in Germany, the only reason I got intofootball because when I was 13 I was, my brother and my brothers and theirfriends called me bob, yeah, the nickname right bob and I'm the youngestof six kids for boys and I'm like oh bob, I got a nickname, my brothers andtheir friends, that means I'm cool and part of the group until one of themtold me that bob meant booty on back, I was heavy kid, so uh it that I boughtthe herschel walker workout book and I bought the jane fonda VHS tapes and youwait back then and I used to do all that stuff during commercial breaks of,of tv shows and my dad saw that and started working out with me when I was13 and for the next 3.5 years we went to the gym almost every single day andworked out together, so how how often did you check your bob? Oh man, I stillcheck for the boss bob, don't come back, but it was interesting because that wassuch a and I think because of that my dad saw my work. I think he saw how Ididn't like something. I was willing to work for it. Like making something thatI wanted. That. That's why he trusted me to go to the state to get ascholarship. But it also taught me that if you don't like something in yourlife, do you have the opportunity to change it? It's up to you. It's not upto someone else. Um, to change it for you. We all wish that thing could begiven to us at times. And, and, but for the most part, you just have to earnthe opportunity or take advantage of the opportunity when it's there. And ithasn't always been easy. I, I've had so many no's and so many rejections andand the football stuff I wanted to quit in college and my dad was the onlyreason I went back and he basically said you're not coming home so youbetter figure it out. And it made me realize I, I had to get a job. You momand dad would continue to take care of me. You became it, you know, and so Iworked hard at everything that I've ever done and to go from football towhat I do now was it's such a different business, Such a complete differentmindset to, to leave even to do Fox um was scary And I knew I had a job when Iretired. I was still scared. I still struggle mentally because my identityidentify myself as a football player, not a guy who necessarily talks about,it's not the same field, but being there on set now with those guys for 14years, it's like this is a close to a locker room and I'm gonna get, yeah,but I'm amazing locker room. Yeah. And I'm very happy with it because a bunchof guys who just want best for everybody and the best for this showand we laugh and we get to watch the game that we all love to play. So youguys get to, you know, you got Terry there. I mean it's gonna, you'reprobably gonna laugh all day along with him. You know, you laugh more with theguys. We all laughed more when the cameras often we than those on the airand we don't know what each other is going to say. So I don't know whenterry's gonna start start telling the joke about pals or something like wedon't know me. That's like the locker room, people don't see what our lockerrooms were like. They were the best. You know, I uh, the memories, you knowthat some of the locker room stuff was so good. But, but I love, I love what Ido. You're, you're great at this by the way. I mean it's so great. You'reeither to talk to you smooth like you have other gifts. We all have othergifts you just have to not be afraid to try to tap into those. Yes. And like Isaid, don't be afraid you're gonna be told no. Before I before I did livewith kelly, I would go on on Ellen de generous this show. Oh yeah. And and,and so I went to L. A. And I did it quite a few times and they actually,the production company came to me and said we would like to give you know,work with you to get to produce your own show. And I was like really, reallyyeah, we want to incubate you on Ellen,...

...we put you on Ellen all these times andlet let you know the audience, get to know you and then we bring you in, wewant to see, you know, we need you to go out and kind of put it together,find a co host someone you think you get five with. So I put out all thesefeelers, man reached out to so many um people and the amount of nose or theamount of non responses stuff isn't it? That's hard, hard wow. And you knowwhen I went on the show when I got that when I took over for regis I neverthought I'd get that job. That's why I was on that show and I just was actingcarefree because like I can't lose a job that I'm not going to get. And thenonce I got the job I realized being yourself on tv is what people want tosee and that's what they want, the hardest thing for most people to do. Soum yeah, but getting, getting that job completely was a life changingexperience because it took me out of the mindset of for people as justfootball and and put me into a more of a mindset where you know, yourecognized across all all all genres and all everybody moms, dads,grandmothers, grandfathers, sons, daughters, which was totally a tripwhen you're going down the street and the same guys who used to like yell atyou go Giants. Yeah man, Michael, you did this with the giants also awesometo the same dudes talking about cooking segments and, and and like the storythat you did on on, on G. M. A. Or on something, you're like, wow, this is acomplete transformation which they're not coming back. Hey, do you rememberthat time you hit Gus in 96 RfK? They don't ask you that anymore. Okay, right.They ask you about G. M. A. Right G. M. A. One day, 100 $1000 pyramid. Yeah.Hey Yeah, I know, I know you've got another gig to go to and man, Iappreciate you spending you and I think we could talk for hours and have justbest, but hopefully you can come back some time. But you know, let all ourfans know where they can find you, how they can uh, you know what you're doing,Obviously we all know what you're doing today, but give him a shout out whatyou're doing, where they can find you. All right, okay. What am I doing? Well,you can get the on Good morning America every morning, 7 to 9 a.m. Fox, NFLsunday every sunday. And um, what time do we start? L. A. We're at nine, whichis noon on the east coast. Um, $100,000 pyramid. We just finished season sixthat just finished. So no more of that for right now, more than an athlete isout now. Today is the third episode on ESPN Plus, yes, yes. If you want to getsome clothes and go to men's warehouse finally there, Gus all over leisurewear like Michael and you do it for the NFL to, it's amazing. You do everything,do a little bit everything, man. And um, just, just trying to just have fun.Life is short, enjoy every bit of it and do things that you love with peopleyou love and and just maintain your happiness. Well, hey buddy, I'm reallyproud of you. Thank you for joining me on huddle up with Gus. I know you'vegot to run but all the fans can stay around. I'm gonna answer some of theirquestions and get back to him. Hopefully Michael, we can do this againsomeday and maybe we can go hit the little white golf ball sometime and,and you can, you can pummel me again. Oh please. You'll beat me at golf, yourquarterback. All you got a better. I'm not a kicker, I'm a quarterback. I'mnot, Yeah, they have practiced early. They would all go, it's both kickers,quarterbacks, d lineman way, that's just because you're 66 and they don'tmake clubs that long. I appreciate you man. Thank you for having me. I'm, youknow, I'll be back on the program for sure, no doubt. Alright, thanks buddy.Hey, good luck with everything. Thank you. Got right. Hey, everyone that was, uh, what Iguess, Mike was, I'm sorry, we couldn't get all the questions Michael had to go,but hey, there's a lot of questions out there and you know, I'm here. If youwant to ask some questions, we can go through them. Uh, would love to answeryour questions. We've had some incredible people watching everybody on,uh, you know, if you want to talk NFL whatever you want to talk about, um,you know, Michael, what an incredible guest. I don't, I literally was, I mean,I have terrible handwriting, but I was trying to write down everything that hedoes, you know, and it's just amazing that Michael has transitioned into thiscredible, incredible entrepreneur and has taken everything like he said, hewas so good at his job and it led him to so many other things and you can'tbe afraid to step into it. I know I've been afraid to try to transition intocertain things and you just got to go and do it just like when I started thispodcast and good things will come from it. But anybody got any questions outthere for me, um, in regards to uh, um, you know, the NFL or anything, uh,let's see who we got on here. Let's go...

...to some questions. I think Michael gaveJan some great advice. Um, Pamela, you gotta, you had a questionfor Michael about, hey Jason, how you doing buddy? You want to come on, Jason, help me outhere. Of course, we got champions. Jason on here from super. Uh, Jason,what do you think, How do, how do you think it went today? First of all, Ithink you're a consummate professional and I think it went very smoothly assomebody who hosts shows here on Super. I'm learning a lot and I've been takingnotes as well. Um, I think Michael is a fascinating guy, I think he's abrilliant guy and honestly, um, probably one of the nicest people youcould have started your time on super with. I think it was a heck of a bar toset. It's great. Yeah, no, it was, he was wonderful. What a personality, youknow, and, and I knew he had to go, but the great thing was, he just kepttalking, it's not like I was making him stay like Michael, you know, when youhave two people that love to talk a lot, sometimes he shows me going forever.Yeah. Right. So uh yeah, go for it. So there's run believe he asked, what'sthe best part of living in pennsylvania now, Jason, you you're from D. C. It'strue. I'm from Pittsburgh. Living in Pennsylvania to me is I love the fourseasons, right? I love the cooler weather. Sometimes we get it nice andhot, but I love the change, you know, Pittsburgh growing up and one of myfavorite things ever. A lot of places have friday night lights, but I thinkWestern pennsylvania always had the best. I mean, I've spent some time inPittsburgh. I do I do love Western pennsylvania. I mean any place where Ican go to uh Primanti brothers, you know, I can go and I can get a sandwich. I know Primanti brothers, you think Ilike, I'm some sort of cold on your sandwich. Come on. Like this is myfirst rodeo. I know good sandwiches and I know where to go to get goodsandwiches in Pittsburgh. Um But truthfully, I think I'm with you, I dolove that about the mid atlantic in general. I mean, certainly in D. C. Wehad, you know, four seasons as well. I think the one downside though is thatuh you know, I mean, don't get me wrong, you know, Pittsburgh's a fine town, butthe football team there man, just, just perfectly average. I would say, I hopewe don't have any Steelers nation on here. They're going to come after you.You know what? I, I welcome the opportunity. I mean, it's not as bad asphiladelphia, let's be clear. But you know, no, I just don't, I probablywould agree with you on that one. I mean, you know, is, you know, a fightbetween Washington and new york who loses the answer is Philly. Um but no,I mean, I think, I think uh, you know, I, I loved it since I'm here, I'd loveto ask you a quick question. I mean, you've done this, you've interviewedall sorts of folks, you know, both, you know, sort of uh minor niche folks fromthe NFL all the way to guys like Michael or even, you know, some of myfavorite Washington votes like Michael, Michael Wilbon. Um I just love to askwho's been your favorite interview so far man. I have had so many incrediblepeople that people that um uh, he was on one of them was, was just the otherday, I interviewed Matthew, Lawrence, I don't know if you remember Matthew fromum sorry, Matthew forgot you, but he's he was a dad on nine oh 21 oh um he wasin Eddie and the cruisers, he was the guitar player and it's just sometimeswhen you get on here and you connect with people and people that you'venever met before. Like, I know Michael, but I don't know. No Michael andsometimes you just connect with people every one of my guests, maybe exceptfor two or three. I've connected with them all. And we have such a goodconversation. And I think what Michael said is so true that if you're just whoyou are, even when you do a podcast and you don't try to be fake or false, italways comes through and that's who I really try to be when I interview myguess. But uh, I mean, I've had some credit, my, one of my favorite was whenI had Coach Ditka on such a great interview. So I had my dick on, we'reinterviewing him and you know, I'd ask him questions and he go, well, I don'tknow. And then all of a sudden you hear his wife in the background say, ah,that was, you know, so and so from back then, right. So she was like, you wereinterviewing the wrong person. Yeah, she probably members more than coach,but I've had some incredible, uh, people on and it's been so much fun tointerview them and get to know them well, I'm gonna want to step away for amoment and give you space to be able to bring other people on. But I do want tocall out Rich Daniel in the chat is asking about describing RFK Stadium andI'd love, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it as a player therebecause as a fan I not only went to go see you play there, but also I went toconcerts there. I mean anybody from the D. C. Area went to the HF festivalthere every year. And like you know, I mean I I have now I go to you know, Iused to go to C. D. C. United play there and it still feels that kind oflike defining monument to sort of old D. C. Sports in a lot of ways. You know itreally was hitting and Michael hit the nail on the head. Like uh I know my manRich Rich Rich was uh he was a film guy...

...with Rennie not, they used to come inand and you know he would be the guy behind the camera all the time and andhe actually I collect old vintage baseball cards. So Rich sold me hiswhole collection one time and I got so many comments out of it that I was soexcited right? It was awesome. So thank you Rich. But going back to the RFKthing and Michael was right when you would come out even before the game,the fans were so close and there was so much, I'm trying to think of the wordbecause you had the hog, it's were there yet the band there. Um and theenergy of the stadium was incredible because they were right on top of you.And then when you would be beating the cowboys, Right, the bleachers, whichnever happened nearly often enough. The bleachers would just like the fanswould be going crazy the bleachers and then monty Coleman would stand up onthe bench and each swing of town. It was just everything. And I never, eventhough I played 15 years and a lot of stadiums, I never felt that same energyagain. I get it. I mean, as a resident, you know, I mean, Fedex Field is abeautiful field. I've gone to lots of great games there, but it's not, it'snot the same. And there's something obviously it's probably structurallynot the safest place to be anymore. And I'm sure when you play there probablywasn't that way. Yeah. Well, it's not my favorite place for many reasons, butwe don't have imagined. Yeah. I can't imagine telling anybody of that becausethey probably know the whole story. But the other, my other favorite thingabout RFK was, you know, I was playing there and I don't know why, but I gotto know the people at RFK. They gave me a sparking spot underneath the stadiumand when my daughter Abby was little pull up into the stadium, I mean parkand sunny Jorgenson and sam huff. We're always right there because they calledthe games and sam huff would always come over and pull abby out of her carseat and walk around and take her and my wife up to the elevator to wherethey would go up to their seats and I would go into the locker room orwhatever and then I'd go out and see sonny like those things to me like justwere amazing and it makes me sad that I don't get to do that anymore. But whatinexperience with those people. I love it. I wish, I wish that we had morestories like that from modern stadiums. But it sounds to me like he had prettygood, pretty good experiences there and that's got to count for something Ilove. Did you see what Paula McCoy said? She said I I remind her of jay Leno.Well, I mean I'm not funny at all. So you both have strong chins. I thinkthat's a good start. Mine has been growing over the years. I don't know ifthat's a good thing or a bad thing and it just might be a thing. Don't I meanlisten, I'm in my late thirties, I'm starting to find gray hairs everywhere.You and I are going to be identical twins in about five minutes. Your kidsall graduate from college and yeah, went through that, that's where allthese comes. I mean I've been thinking about that that those checks alone. I'mstarting to grow. Um well I'm going to get out of your way. Listen thanks foryou know that was a great chat with Michael. I know I speak for everybodyin the audience when I say that, that we hope that there's more of that tocome and you know, great job hosting. I'm gonna let you chat with other folks,but thanks again for bringing me up. All right, great, yeah, thanks. HeyJason, thank you so much for having us and hosting us and uh, come on any timeand obviously I'm gonna be here for you and and we're gonna get this thingrolling. Can't wait. All right. I'll get off stage. I'll talk to you later.All right, thank you buddy. That's our show, everyone. Thank youfor joining us on the huddle up with Gus um, I appreciate you listening. Iwant to thank Sounder FM for hosting us. I want to thank 16 31 digital news anddon't forget to go Vegas sports advantage, put in my code, huddle up,save 25% and win some cash. So thanks again to Amy Trask, Go check out herbook and check her out at Amy Trask on twitter. She's the reason they madetwitter. So, thanks for joining me on how to open Thats a wrap sports fan. Thanks forjoining in the fun at the studio. 31 digital studios for another huddle upwith Gus featuring 15 year NFL quarterback Gus Theron, Hard left withGus is proudly produced by 1631 digital media and is available are at the music.

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