Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

Episode · 10 months ago

Matthew Laurance

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Welcome to Huddle Up with Gus, with 15-year NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte. Today’s a very special day in the huddle as Gus interviews longtime actor Mathew Laurance and the two run the gambit from Matthew’s days growing up in New York to his eventual arrival in Hollywood. Mathew gives you a rare inside view of acting in Hollywood, his role in “Eddie and the Cruisers” and his time on Beverly Hills, 90210.  

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...uh going to acting school and driving a cab and working as a waiter for seven years and doing all that stuff before I moved to Los Angeles. Where? Yeah. You know, everything happened? How was that? Like? So you're in new york, you're driving a cab, you're going to acting school. Do you get a connection to go to L. A. Or do you just like kind of say, all right, it's time I'm going to go out there. You know the weird thing was the way, as with almost everything in my life um the connection came from, I was doing an off off broadway play In the worst area in New York. Right where the mid time where the tunnel comes through downtown around 42nd Street and back then it was bad. I mean that and I was doing a play with a guy named a terrific actor named Gene Davis whose brother brad starred in a movie called Midnight Express of very fame. He was nominated for Academy Awards. Anyway he was married to a really big casting director in L. A. Gene was and I got a call one day from Penny, his wife and she said to me I can't pay for you to come out here. But if you'll come out here I want you to meet with Carl Reiner. He's doing a movie, I can't tell you about it. It's very secretive, I don't think you'll want to do it. But he would meet with you if you came out and Carl Reiner was my idol. Growing really? Yeah, I knew every line from the 2000 year old man with Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks every line. And I went out, I sat with him, I stammered through about an hour with him. And uh he I ended up going out to L. A. To do a movie called Dead Men. Don't wear Plaid with steve martin. Oh yeah, I've seen that yet. And uh it was uh you never saw my face on screen. It was all its inter cut with all old movie stars and old movies like Jeffrey Garten down. Lab fred Macmurray all those people and all you saw was the back of my head, my back my hands, the camera would go behind me all the time and then they would cut to steve and then they'd cut back And Carl called me the man of 10,000 backs. That was that was the name that I got. Yeah, it's like the man of many faces. It was and it was about eight weeks of the greatest memories that I'll ever it was basically me and steve martin for almost all the time. And Carl Reiner, who I told him that I that was my favorite album and he said, you know that album? What was your first line from the album that you said to him? Because I know you have to repeat one. See this, you're really good gus about the third day that we were going to shoot. I was sitting in the morning having some coffee and my director's chair. I was a real big shot. And Carl came and sat down next to me and we were talking about what we were going to do, and he said, all right, I'll be right back, I'm going to go to the bathroom and he stood up and I said A line from 2000 year old man, which was good luck on your wending. It was on the album. Carl says to mel, I'm gonna win my way through the crowd here. And mel says, good luck on your wending. Uh and I said it to Carl and he stopped and he turned around and he looked at me and he said, you know that out really like that? I said, I know every line, he said okay and every day that I worked on that movie, Carl came and did lines from the album. Uh He was just with me, I was mel brooks, You and Mel brooks, he was called Reiner. Uh he was called Reiner and he was the most wonderful human being on the planet, He was just incredible. But that that's initially how I got out to Los Angeles. Uh So then you were with steve Martin. And is that steve martin? How you got to snl? No, that actually happened before I moved to L. A. Uh that one of my sons just came home. That actually happened before I went to L um Snl is interesting to my twin brother Mitchie and I um came from, as I said, from Hewlett High School. Uh and we had a classmate named Alan Zweibel and Alan, we went all through junior high and high school with Alan and Alan became...

...one of the head writers of saturday night Live. He wrote all of Gilda Radner stuff, all the Roseanne stuff, all of those things. And later Alan became uh he's written movies, he's done books, he's done just a number of incredible things. Anyway, my brother Mitchell, my twin brother, I was looking for a job and he went up to saturday night live and spoke to Alan and Alan said we really don't have anything going on here, but maybe you could just you could be like a go for just to get up here. So Mitchell started as getting coffee for Lorne Michaels and doing different things and very quickly became the associate director of the show and produced all the best of video shows that had he was yeah, he was there for five years the whole time of the new cast. And so I started going up there to see my brother and Alan and when that cast, when that ended and Lauren was leaving, I Alan suggested even though he was going to leave the show that he could get me an audition for the new cast and I said well okay and Alan worked on the audition with me and I went in and did this crazy audition for them and I got the job and I was a featured player for that whole year But got to do some really great stuff and that was 19, Oh my God, 80 81. Yeah. Yeah. Oh that's awesome. So that that's the and then you get out to L. A. But I want to go back to when you were in high school with your brother because you are the second set of twins that I know now from Long Island. So my really good friend Rick and Raymond juice. So uh rick they went to, I forget what high school they went to. Uh it wasn't the one you said, but they are twin brothers as well. And you know Rick is my good friend, his brother Raymond, they call him uncle daddy because he looks just like his brother. So I know Rick but it's just funny though. So it's a second set of twins from Long Island. I don't know what's in the water out there were in the Long Island's famous for identical twins and you know they're everywhere you go, there's a set of identical twins somewhere on Long Island. But one thing I always asked Rick, I said you always had a buddy to play with right to do sports with. So did you play what like when you were growing up because I know you're a sports fan, What did you play? What did you and your brother? We price where you what do you do basketball? Look at me cause do I look like a lacrosse player? Uh We played, we were basketball was our life in high school and we, basketball on Long Island during those days was huge. But we played baseball, we played basketball, we played football uh and we ran track during the track season as just for basketball, that's what we did. We ran and we ran track. But yes we got in shape but it's interesting about twins because think about it, I mean we every we never had a time when there wasn't somebody there to have a catch with or throw the football or shoot baskets with or our whole childhood growing up And it helped tremendously. I mean, tremendously we turned out to be pretty good basketball player. We were great athletes anyway. You know, we were great, great athletes and who found more in basketball. Oh, he did. He, I did everything better than him. Of course, you know, he was a ball hog. The funny thing is, that's actually what I was a point guard. He was a shooting guard and he shot all the time and I passed him the ball but just fell for it every time. Every Taco he's four minutes older than I am. So he pulled that crap on me all the time. I'm your older one, blah blah, all that stuff. But the best part of it was in football and this is true. He was a quarterback and I was a receiver and we after so many years of instinctively he would know where I was going to be. Yeah, that's great. And so we would be playing in a game and they would try to cover me. I wouldn't even have to look up for the ball. I knew it was gonna be there. And of course expensive fact is, you know, this better than anybody. If they're looking at your eyes are looking at you and then all of a sudden the ball is right there. They're like, how did you know that, how did you know, I've been doing it since we were five. That's how I know in the house, how many lamps you break? Uh God, your windows. You're good. I'll tell you the...

...big now, see this is I've been, I've done podcast, I've been asked interview questions. I've never been asked that question. When my parents left and they started leaving us alone without a babysitter. We were probably 12 or 13, they would leave, we would push the coffee table back in front of the couch and behind our couch there was a table with a huge lamp that was so big, it had real flowers around the base of it. And then the Lord was up here, we would push the coffee table away and the game was, you had to dive into the end zone, which was the couch. So we would take a kitchen towel and roll it up and you would go and jump onto the couch and try to score. And very quickly that lamp was knocked off of the table and lit right in half and it was an expensive lamp. Yeah, dirt everywhere. We cleaned it up. We put some kind of, they didn't have Krazy glue back. Then we tried to get it together and we told our parents that the dog did it. We were playing with the dog pulled the cord, the lamp came over, they didn't go for it. But that's what happened. This is great. Who never went for that stuff either because my parents went on one trip and I had one party in high school, right? And I have a party. I'm like, okay, they're gone all, everybody's coming over. I was so freaking nervous the whole time because people are having fun. They're smoking cigarettes, are doing all this stuff and I just kicked everybody out because I was going to have a panic attack because my dad was a millwright. My dad was like 63, just this massive dude. And I didn't, you know, I'm like, okay, we got trouble. These two guys locked themselves in my bath in our bathroom. We had we had we had four bedrooms, one bathroom. They locked themselves in the bathroom and they wouldn't come out. They basically ruined. They just ripped the cabinets often. Everything it pulls on the wall. So my buddies and I got it finally got him out, we kicked them out. Everybody went home and I'm just like freaking, I didn't sleep all night. Dad's gonna kill me, right? And I ended up getting my buddy whose dad was um like a painter. Yeah, we we fixed the whole bathroom before my dad came home and it looks spot the house was spotless, just like when they left and he goes, oh, you had a party here, huh? What are you talking about? I don't have a party, I would never do that. And he goes, I know you had a party. I said, How would you know I had a party if I did have one. He said, because I only smoke Winston 100 and there's all these other cigarette butts laying around everywhere. Oh, busted. So it's just funny. But you know when you're telling those stories, uh my son's did that forever. You put little hoops up in the house, break everything. My wife would yell at him, but it was just, I'm so old. And this is a tear jerking story. We didn't have the hoops that you could put up the little hoops. They didn't even have those yet. That's how old I am. So what we did was we took a shoebox cut out the bottom of it, taped it over the closet and rolled up a pair of socks and that was our hoop and my brother and I and you had to, you dribbled holding the sock, you would go 123 and then you'd make your move and you spent most of the time putting that shoebox back up down all the time. But you know, it's those memories are really great and um actually, and it's making me want to call my brother When we get finished because yeah, you know, because when we would, I mean, I grew up 70s and 80s and and we didn't have really video games, right? Everything we did was outside. I mean, I can remember my buddy and I play in basketball because we had a light. So you can play basketball at one in the morning in the summer. You know it was just that's what we did and I learned so many skills that you know I wasn't taught a lot. I didn't have like a specific coach teaching me stuff when when you're like with your brother you probably learned so much how to just play. Yeah we did. And you know the basketball thing we didn't get a light in our over our garage which was in the back of our driveway. Um Again this is how old that was. Our next door neighbor went to michigan And this is probably 1963 maybe. And Cazzie Russell was at michigan and Bill Bradley was a Princeton right? And they played in the N. C. A. A. Tournament and we watched that game and said to my father we wanted to go out and play basketball and it was dark and we made him get lights for the backyard after that game so that we could go out and shoot baskets at night. That was the game that that that convinced him that we...

...needed to get get lights out there in the back. Yeah I mean but but the thing was your dad was always showing you to get the hell out of the house right? It was all right give me some nights and I'll be out all night I'll let you know tomorrow morning if you don't want to see me that's fine. Exactly. So how do you think sports? Because you know, I love to kind of translate sports into people's lives and how it helps them through times. You know, you were in acting school and you're on Snl then you go to L. A. How can you put together how sports may have helped you kind of do all those transitions? Okay. Uh, there are a couple of ways I could answer this. I think sports, the competition aspect of sports, if you're really into sports will always be with you whatever you're doing. There's a part of you that one when I was acting, I would sit there with a room full of actors waiting to audition for something that feeling of competition, even though it was totally out of your control. It's not like sports where you either score or you don't score, this is out of your control. But the feeling you have is I'm competing against all of these idiots, which they were to me or a job Actually, my brother and I didn't talk for about five years because he became an actor too after I did, and we were competing for jobs. And when you have somebody that looks exactly like in a business that that's what it's about at the beginning anyway. It was very hard for us, but that that's off the subject, but compete the competition part I think is important. The other part of sports and something that has defined my life in every way is golf. Uh we growing up, we used to kick the crap out of guys that played golf in new york. I mean nobody did it. If you you played sports, you didn't play golf, nobody played. And uh my brother moved to L. A. Before I did and when I moved went out to L. A. In 81 the first time I said to him, what do you what have you been doing? He said playing golf, I went what you're doing? What he said, I've been playing golf and I started playing that decision determine the rest of my life really. Because every important thing that happened to me basically is because of playing in celebrity golf tournaments. I know this sounds weird but uh the job that I have now I got because of playing in a celebrity golf tournament, Working for with coach K. at Duke basketball for 10 years doing radio. I got because I went to play In a golf tournament at Duke in the early 90s I met, Okay, I met my wife at a golf tournament. I have two sons because of golf sometimes. That really gets me angry. But you said that um that part of sports has influenced my life ever since I started playing. It has introduced me except for the few friends I have from high school that are still good friends of mine and some people acting friends, obviously all the great friends I have, I've met because of golf either in person or on twitter now doing a golf showed the way that I do like keith Hirschl in Yeah, I have never met in person but I consider him to be one of my closest friends. That's all because I'm doing a golf show, that's how I met. So that part of sports has influenced my life in ways that when I was growing up, if you had ever told me golf would have that kind of an influence on my life, I would have told you you were insane. But well I mean probably growing up to you probably would have never said I'm going to be an actor either or did you say that you know the funny thing is my dad was very poor growing up, I mean he started working when he was eight and so he never wanted to worry about my brother and I, so growing up Mitchell was going to be a doctor and I was going to be a lawyer that was it, there was no discussion And my senior, I started doing theater in 8th grade I played uh Hugo and Bye Bye Birdie in 8th Grade and I was brilliant of course then I did theater all through high school and while I was at Tufts but I never really considered it and then I was taking my law boards, my senior...

...year Tufts and I put the pencil down. I looked around and I went, what am I doing? I don't, I don't want to do this. And I went home all right, I'm a sap and you're gonna get me now. I went home at christmas break and my dad said, have you sent in your applications yet for law school? I said no, isn't it late? I said, dad, I don't think I'm going to do that. He said really, what are you gonna do? And going from the sublime to the ridiculous, I said, I think I want to be an actor. So I'm going from something where he never would have had to worry about me to something where all he would do was worry. And he got up from the table, you didn't say anything. And he walked in the living room and my mother said, you got to give him a minute, this is, this is big. Yeah. It's it's, you know, it's hard when, when, when you have to do that. And I mean it's a, it's a, it's a great story because I feel you there because my dad was so ingrained in everything I did. Yeah, Well he, I walked inside and my father said, you got to give me a little while with this and I said, okay. And I went up to the bedroom and I felt horrible. I really did because I loved my father so much and The next morning before he went to work at about 6:30, he came and sat on my bed and he said, this is what gets me. He said, if this is what you want to do, I mean really want to do, then I'll do everything I can to help you. I mean talk about the luck of having parents and my mother was that way too. And the amazing thing is, it took me like I said, I didn't get my first job in acting For six or 7 years, I got a coke commercial and that got my screen actors guild card, which my father thought meant I was officially an actor. I had a union card and that to him and I didn't get my first big job, which was a movie called Prince of the City that Sydney lament directed, who was one of the most famous directors, there were still three months after my dad passed away. He never saw that part of my career. Yeah, he, he could not have done more for me all the years. I was a waiter and driving a cab and doing all that. I even brought him to uh an acting class with me that Uda Hagen taught who was one of the most famous teachers in the world. And my dad came and sat in on class with my mom and she was so mesmerizing when we walked out, he said, I don't think I ever got it before. Now I understand why this is so important to you. I mean he was just amazing. So did he go, did like your parents always go to your, when you were in high school, go to your, go to theater, like watch you perform all that all the time. But it was just, you know, I mean it was high school theater. So then when, when you're there and here they come in and they watch you, they saw your passion like that, you know what I mean? Like, like last was because, well, because I hadn't really done, they saw, I was in a couple off off broadway shows, They came to those, but You know, you're in a garage with 15 people watching you. It's kind of hard, they could tell I was good, but, but it's kind of hard to, okay, that's great. You know? Yeah, good luck. You're, it's great. They never saw actually my dad didn't, my mom when I got, I had been working and when I got this show called duet on Fox was the first time I made real money. I mean like great money and I bought a car for my mom and uh I'm sorry and and I set it up, I was in L. A. I bought the car from place in queens and came home and surprised her uh, with it got her to the dealership in queens and said, I'm lost. I have to go get directions and went into this dealership and came out with the keys and went like this jingle them. Yeah, that's yours. Um my dad never got to see that, but my mom did and she just passed away I think four years ago now, she was 93. So she went, she went through, I took her to the wrap party for Eddie and the cruisers, you know, somebody else to do everything. Well, you know what, your...

...dad was still there, Your dad still, there is always, always a matter of fact, My eldest son who's 17 is named Everett after my dad. So that's a great name. I get to say his name every day. Well, I'm the second, my dad passed away 17 years ago. I'm the second my son's a third. So, so yeah, we say that name a lot. You're Gustav, Gustav, but they call me Gus no, I know that. My mom used to call me Gus Junior and everybody still makes fun of me for that. And you have a son named Donna Gunnar. Yeah, but his first thing I'm gonna search to pal Yeah, Gust of Gunner. Yeah, we're gonna go to college. I don't know you went to Tulsa. I don't know where Gunner wants. Yeah, nobody goes to Tulsa actually about this jerry Rome went to Tulsa. Oh, look at you. Mhm Yeah. Hey, how come up with us listeners manscaped, Well, they sent me, uh they hooked me up with a bunch of tools and formulations for their package three point oh kit. Uh so, you know, I want to show you guys what's in the perfect package, Right? We all think we got a perfect package, but they sent me the perfect package, three point oh kid, I want to show you what they sent me. So it was crazy. It came in this great box. Uh you know, uh and you can see what it says. They will thank you because they sent us this awesome trimmer. They sent us uh you know, stuff that makes you smell better. And then, you know, they sent me this great uh some boxers, you what you get right, protect them. And then uh you know, they sent me this cool it sack, I guess you want to call it to store all your stuff in. So uh it's been great. Manscaped sent me a bunch of product um you know, and you know, you can see it all on here. Uh you know, if you can go to Manscaped dot com and put in the code, uh Gus Frerotte, that's G U S F R E R O T T E. Get 20% off and free shipping when you use that code. But you can get a kit, you can get individual items like uh this way. Cool rumor that has a little led light um ceramic, these things come apart, They're waterproof, you can do a lot with them. So, you know, uh, manscaped is great. You know, it's funny, I remember when I was playing with the Denver broncos and I'm not going to mention any names, but there was a gentleman who was playing on our team and uh, you know, if you ever hears the story, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. But he brought his own clippers in one time and he used it to trim his beard up, his goatee and everything. And he had him there for about two or three weeks and he goes in around the corner, he walks in and there's a person, another player that is actually manscaping with his beard trimmer. So you know, one of the things is, you don't want to use the same trimmer down there that you use up here. So uh, he kind of freaked out a little bit and he said, hey, how long have you been using that tool there? And he said, well, showed up here about three weeks ago and I've been using it ever since. So you know, there is a lesson learned that, you know, don't leave things out and probably, uh, if it would have just said Manscaped on it, but we wouldn't have had that issue, but it's probably one of the funniest, uh, taking care of your ball stories I've ever heard or been around in the locker room in the NFL, so uh, it's a great story. Um, but you know, I always said, there was no way to know, there's no name on it. And the guy was just using it and another guy was using, it was not good, but it's a heck of a funny story. So one of the best I've ever heard in my 15 years playing in the league. Um but you know, there's so many great things about manscaped and what they're doing uh because guys, you got to take care of yourself even though I got great hair um and getting older, but you still have to maintain some sort of grooming, right? And so, uh, you know, we all work out for me. I like working in my yard doing those things now that I'm retired, Get a little sweat on and everything, you want to smell good. Uh you know, you got to take care of yourself, They've got some great products um you know, this one, a little uh you all deodorant, we'll need that here and there um after, you know,...

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...we all went well. That's a shame you know, we worked pretty hard on that. Nobody's going to see it. That movie didn't take off until cable came in until HBO really. And all of a sudden when any of the cruisers went on, it was H B O within, I want to say a month. The album went triple platinum. I mean all of a sudden everybody saw this movie that had no idea was there. And to this day It's been like I said, 1983, 2003, 13 In two years, it will be 40 years ago, that amount. And I'm doing the Comic Con in Lexington this weekend and it's mostly because of Eddie and the cruisers, I'm telling you, it's the biggest cult movie. My good friend Carrie, there is a huge Eddie, she says, yeah, she was a poster. She Yeah, but a Michael Parade. Not me, I know that well, you might be in the background playing guitar. Yeah, that's okay with me. Everybody was the bass player drives the band. Everybody knows that. So wait, so when you were doing this movie, you knew how to, you already knew how to play guitar or was it just a number? No. Uh, I played growing up, I played accordion. You and steve martin would get along great. I mean it's unbelievable. I didn't know how sexy and instrument the accordion was for a long time and I played saxophone for a few years and I was the best air guitarist. I still am ever in the world. As a matter of fact, that's partly how I got the part in Eddie and the cruisers. I went into martin Davidson, the director and I was talking to him about the movie auditioning and I told him that I could, he said, do you play the guitar? I said no, but I could convince you I do. And went and got a Santana tape and put it in and played Black Magic woman and did air guitar every note to Black Magic woman. And I think that was part of the reason I got the job. And I learned how to play all the songs from the movie on the base because I had friends that were musicians. I didn't want any of them to go, I want you weren't playing. I watched, you weren't, that wasn't real. And so I learned how to play all those songs. Southside johnny was our musical advisor and taught us how to be a band. He taught me how to play the basement. Oh my gosh! But that had to be so much fun. Like getting to learn something new and just, you know what I mean? Like it made you want to go to work every day. Probably. Well, that whole movie was quite an experience. It was really hard because uh, you know, none of us. The only person that played an instrument was the guy that was in the Beaver Brown band, Michael Antunes, the sax player. The rest of us, none of us were ever in a band or play. I mean, if you watch tom Berenger who played the piano, it's, I mean he's going like this and doing all this stuff. Well, the, the one scene where you were sitting on the wall with the other actor and you guys are like, he's terrible. Can't play. And yet you didn't, you weren't even lying like you weren't even acting. Well, that was, it was, it was hard because if, if you can't convince people for the most part that you're a band, you have no movie. Right? Uh, Michael per array. Um, could we did it to playback? We did all the songs to play back. Michael couldn't live sync. He couldn't do it. We worked so hard on that. And it's a credit to him. I worked with him all the time on lip sync. And it's a credit to him that the first day we started shooting the music magic happened. And if you watched the movie now he's really good with the really good. Um, but it was hard, it was a hard shoot. There was a lot of uh, tension between marty, the director and a couple of people in the cast. And it was hard, but at the same time we were a rock band. I mean, you're a rock band growing up. I wanted to do two movies. I wanted to play center field in Yankee Stadium or play basketball in the garden or a sports movie. And as every actor, I wanted to be in a rock n roll movie. That's what every actor wants to be. A rock and roll store. Every what what rock n roll movie did you when you were growing up that you watched? I don't think, I'm not sure that it was any movie that I...

...actually watched. I mean, I don't really remember any from my childhood as I said because they just weren't making them that that frequently. Right. Right. You know, there have been a lot of Great Rocket La bamba is one of my favorite movies. There have been a lot of really good movies that featured rock and roll, but I don't think I had one that really influenced where I just always loved music. I sang a lip sync. I did air guitar, I did all that. I always loved music so well, I think Your passion for all these different things is what's keeping you young and not what you did in the 70s and 80s. You know what, it's funny, we talked about that a little before we went on. But um, I think you're absolutely right. I think it's a big part of it. Um my passion sometimes gets me in trouble because I it seems like and I think this is part of growing older too. I'm a very impatient person. I mean, I'm a true new yorker, right? Yeah, I don't well, I mean there's so many people, like they can't drive in Kentucky, you're probably flipping the bird to them all the time. I don't do that because I'm afraid of them. But I have been known, I told my producer of my show Sean today, I said, you know, I don't understand that 10 seconds after I get in the car, I've already dropped an f bomb four times 10 seconds after I get to see. You can't say it on the radio. So you got to get them all out before you get there. That's it. That's exactly, I think how I feel, but I'm really impatient and I don't, I feel like I can't, there are so many things I have trouble tolerating now that I may be used to, but I I feel like I in all walks of life and everything that's going on in sports and my kids and I just, I feel like I don't have time to waste on, on things that I I just can't tolerate. It gets me in trouble sometimes, but it's the way that uh uh sometimes I have to take medication for that kind of stuff. So come be down a little bit, bring me off the edge. I completely understand. So we move through your career. Uh we have a question from one of our fans for you uh about let me let me find it here, wait right up here. 90210. Obviously there's a lot of fans of that show, uh and this is from Jordan, right in Arlington Virginia, and Jordan wants to know when you were on the show, nine oh 21 oh, describe what Aaron spelling was like on set and any funny stories from your time on the show. So you were on the show for how many years? Nine, So I'm sure there's multiple funny stories. Well, and were you a price? I I know you're like comedian, and were you a prankster on the show? Did you know frank's, no, I've never been a comedian. I mean I've I've I'm just an incredibly talented actors. Uh you know, it's uh I know you're so humble humility is one of my strongest traits. I mean, I'll just say that I hate patting myself on the back. Um you know, I was on saturday night Live and but that it's a product of where I grew up and my friends growing up that we all were comedians, we always joked, we always have things. Um, 90,210 was a very interesting experience. I um I had done quite a few things. My agent called me now, here's another part of Fox, the Fox network, the first year of nine oh 21 oh was the lowest rated show on television, Nobody knew about it. It was on Fox, it was a bunch of high school kids and they did something very smart that summer. They did all new episodes, which no shows did. They all did reruns All of a sudden I think they sent luke and Jason Priestley to open a shopping mall like in florida and 15,000 people showed up and Fox went, wait a minute, hold it, something's going on here. Yeah, we got a call from my agent And he said they want you to come in, they want to talk to you about playing the father of one of the kids on 90,210 and I said I'm not doing that show, that shows terrible, why would I want to do that? You know, I was very kind of arrogant about everything I had done, he said thank the Lord, you've never played a father before, just go talk to them, it might be good for you to do. And I thought it was for one episode uh and it turned out kind of to be an audition to see how an Gillespie and I, who was going to play my girlfriend, wife, ex wife on the show were together. And I went in and I really didn't know anybody on the show...

...and I said whose father would I be playing? They said his name is brian Austin Green Now five years before that I did a show called circus of the stars, right? Was on thanksgiving every year. It was very popular as all these actors and they would put on a circus. Well, how about discuss you want to talk? I'll tell you what kind of athlete I am. I walk the high wire. You did you ever give like the pole and everything? I had the pole. But I also wrote a bike across the high wire 20 ft up. That's right. I'll send you the video somewhere. Oh yeah, that's an athlete video. Anyway, Brian Austin Green was 13 and was on that circus of the stars. He was on knots landing at the time. What did he do? He did this the thing where there's a teeter totter and he's standing on it and somebody jumps on the end and he flipped in the air and landed on this big chair that he did all, He was great. It was amazing what he Anyway, they said, brian Austin Green would be your son. I said, okay, I'm in because I loved him. We rehearsed for Circus of the Stars for six weeks together and I loved that kid. I said, okay, I'm in and that's what started became nine years of being a Joe and of all the things I've done. I think it was, this is gonna sound weird, but I think it was the least creative thing as an actor that I did because Ryan so much. I loved all the people that I was working with. Um, except for one and I won't mention his name anyway um But well that, that's the 5050 because you went to him and then it didn't say her. So that's good. Yeah, you can yeah, figure it out. Maybe we'll figure it out. Love Jason. I loved Luke. Uh, those two more than anything. Let's see what were the other guys on it Anyway. Um but the, the show you talk about popularity. Oh my gosh, this is what I talk in like 95. I'm a big history buff. I got to go to work in Germany and I went to East Berlin what was used to be East Berlin. I wanted to see the Brandenburg Gate which is napoleon's armies. It looks like the Arc de Triomphe and napoleon's armies marched underneath this Brandenburg gate. I couldn't believe I was standing in what was East Berlin looking at this a bus pulls up and there are Swedish tourists in Germany And about 30 people get off the bus and somebody turns around and sees me and goes Beverly hills. 30 people rush over to me. They could have cared less where they were what they were doing and autographs and can we take pictures with you and it really hit me. I knew what was going on in this country, but when that happened and I saw what the effect was in Germany, I was like uh we got something good. There was always, you know, and you're working with young kids, there's always drama. There was always, I mean, I don't remember all of it, but I'm sure you do, there's probably a lot of drama going on. Well they were the most famous People really in the country in terms of acting and they were all for the most part, 18 2019. they were huge stars making all this money. You know, when I was 19 and I was a sophomore in college, I was still trying to figure out how to tie my shoes. They're dealing with stuff that It's impossible to understand how difficult that is. And for the most part they handled it really well. I thought, yeah, I mean that's gotta be tough for anybody. I mean, even for us, you know, like when when you get to the NFL you're 24 years You're 23 and you don't have any clue how to handle money or anything, especially media and all that. I couldn't imagine what it's like to be. I was just one of those, you know, you're 18 and you have all this well think about like we didn't have social media, we didn't, I keep thinking imagine those kids, if we had, so if we had tick tock and twitter and and everything back then I know how devastating it would have been to me and I was supposedly an adult, right? God, we didn't have social media when I was doing all my whole acting career basically. Oh my gosh could you? I bet there's been some good pictures. Yeah okay what else do you want to talk? So so then you get done with nine oh 21...

...oh yeah, you know after nine years is it like okay, I'm gonna take a break or I got this next thing I'm gonna do because I know you you you're like you I bet your mind was going, what's next? What I'm gonna do? It was but not in the way that you think I had just really gotten sick of living in Los Angeles. I had had it oh traffic right there and yeah, but I drove a cab in new york, come on gus that the traffic, it's different in L. A. Trust me. I know um I just hated What it had become for me, I've been there for almost 20 years. Um And everything was so tied to the business. If somebody said to you how you doing and you said I'm great, the first thing, what are you working on everything about it? And for some reason the last couple years that I lived there, it just got to me, I didn't have a family, I just got sick of being in the business. Uh and my agent called me one day and I, even though I had a lot of success, I never got on a series like Seinfeld where you don't never have to worry for the rest of your life. Had to get a job? Sometimes I offered that sometimes I had to audition. My agent called me one day and said just so you know what's going on out here? The business is getting very young. He said I submitted you for a pilot for NBC for a sitcom. I had a guest starred on every sitcom in L. A. I had my own sitcom for three years And my agent said the casting director who was about 25 said to me Can he do comedy? I mean I really like him on 90,210 but does he do comedy? When I heard that I went I'm gone. Yeah. And as I said before I had no idea what I was going to do. I went to play in the Duke Children's classic golf tournament and I sat next to Mike Wazowski and his wife mickey a couple years before that. So we had gotten friendly and I went back to playing the tournament. I had dinner with them and I told Mike I wanted to leave and he said what are you going to do? I said, I don't know. I just know I want to get out of L. A. And he basically said why don't you come work with me? I want? So wait wait, what do you do it? I did radio for the Duke Basketball Network for 10 years with my knees in coach K's back for every game for 10 years, right? Oh, but how do you see that? That arena is so loud. How do you I mean? Yeah, you can't even hear yourself in there sometimes, but you got I had big padded headphones. I was like, Okay, like this. So you've got all the scoop from coach K. I did and 90% of it, I couldn't really say what was going on. I would get I would get in the huddle with them during time out. He had always wanted to try that and he thought I would be the perfect guy to do it even though I got in trouble a couple of times for things that I said, because first and foremost, I'm a fan and I'd be in Cameron and going, you know, it took me a while to go johnny moore who ran the radio network would say to me, you can't do that. You're holding a Duke radio network microphone. You can't get up and be doing this stuff. Okay. All right, okay. I get it. But that's that's what I did When I left L. A. for 10 years before I came to Kentucky. Yeah, Well that that's amazing like because that doesn't just happen to everybody. I've played it. I've played in lots of celebrity golf tournaments and you know, just you go and play and you go home and you meet some people, but that's amazing that like you go playing the Duke Celebrity golf tournament and coach K says just come work for me must have you know, I know your humble, but you must have a really good personality. No, I act like I have a really good, you'll you'll appreciate this so much because I am in such awe of the people that I have gotten to meet, whether I got friendly with them or not. The very first celebrity tournament I played was in Orlando, it was Payne Stewart had a tournament and I went the day before to play in the practice round and the kid at the golf course takes my bag, you said your carts over there and I walk over and there's a bag on my cart already another celebrity I'm going to play in the practice round with and I turned the bag tag around and it's Bart Starr, Oh really? Now uh I'm a Giants fan, but it's Bart Starr, I'm just like...

...this nobody actor and for four holes riding with Bard, I couldn't even talk, it's like the whole Carl Reiner thing all over again, it was, but I would look out of the corner of my eye and I would go, my God, it's parts I'm riding with Bart Starr, He turned out he had a son who wanted to be an actor, he asked me all kinds of questions, he was wonderful, but did you beat them, all those people? No, I always let athletes, you know, I would have let you beat me because you have your egos. Oh yeah, you let us win. You have very fragile egos. I know new Yorkers are so nice and humble and Yeah. Right. Exactly. Uh anyway, the number of athletes who I revere, here's another one. Okay, I'm playing in a golf tournament and I'd go for the practice round and I'm writing with Julius erving, Oh yeah, that was now my brother. And I grew up On Long Island Julius, grew up 20 minutes from us, graduated the same year that we did and we played against him. I killed anyway, yeah, of course we're riding in the golf cart and it was 20 years later. And I finally I said to him, you know, I played against you, he went, where'd you go to high school? I said fuel it. He went, you went to Hewlett I said, yeah, he goes he thinks for him and he said you have a twin brother. That was the greatest compliment. Oh my gosh, in the world. And and since then we played in, I am friendly with so many. That is awesome that I admire and now I'm going to be friends with you because I'll tell you something enough about me, You threw for over 21,000 yards in your career, 21,000, you had a 15 year career in the NFL you are to me and if you played, I have a friend. Doug Flynn who played for the reds in the, in the for the big red Machine, I think he hit 2 11 in his career and I make fun of them all the time. And the first time I said You had to 11 dude, he said and every one of those hits was in the major leagues, everyone. Yeah, that's what I think about you. The career that you had is incredible. I look at you and awe as I'm looking at you now that you did that. Well, I'm just a dad and a husband that I'll eat you, but I'm just your very humble to I know that's my wife. Well, I always have my dad, my dad's always in the back of my head saying like, or just smacking me, right? That's why I don't have tattoos. I never had an earring because you know, he was gonna rip either one of them if I got any of them, they were coming out. He was one of 15 kids in a catholic family, so oh my Lord, you know what? You were such a great athlete, like, you know, doing all that stuff with your family. That's amazing. 15 yeah, he was one of 15 kids. He was crazy. Yeah, it was always going up one of his brothers, Sisters House, always our family reunions were nuts because half my family lives in Canada. Uh so it's just crazy. Yeah, it's really is crazy. So tell us a little bit about your show how people can find you and uh you know there, because I know you're you're all over social media, it's your, like your favorite thing twitter is, and thank you know, I started doing my golf show, I've been doing my daily show for 12 years my golf show, I think this is our sixth or seventh year. And when I started I had a very young producer named eric Matthews and he said to me like the second week, are you on twitter? I said no, I'm not doing that. I'm not getting on social media. I'm not he said you have to because you have this show, it's going to be the only way you can connect and get guests for the show. Yeah, okay. And I started out and I got 20 followers and 30 followers if it weren't for eric making me do that, I wouldn't have any of these friends, the way that I'm talking to you right now. I'm the teeth because of twitter person who introduced me to terry into you after he did your podcast. So, twitter is big to me. I hate a lot of it because of everything that's going on. But for my shows I need to be on twitter, facebook is for my family and my family stuff. Well, it's just amazing that you have two shows, right? You have a golf show and then you just do sports radio, right? So sports radio, you're talking about...

...everything, right? You're you're you're bringing up old Wisconsin players who are in the Rose Bowl and then Engulf in your golf show now, you know, what are you just talking about the tournaments that are being played every week? Or are you doing like talking about like new equipment coming out? What is I mean I do, I'll have I have a friend that does a great review of equipment that I have on every once in a while, but my golf show, it's I just want to have fun. It's I don't I don't care about that many tournaments anymore. I didn't even care about the Fedex Cup that they just played, to be honest with you, the Solheim Cup. I wanted to talk about um the majors I'll talk about, but I just want interesting people And that's the way I got to Keith Hirschmann was about him being a producer for the 1st 20 years of the golf channel. So that's what my show is about and I have local people on local pros that put on all kinds of great things for junior golfers here. I have a guy in Ireland that comes on my show that runs the best junior golf tour in the world, really. I have him on my show, it's fantastic. So you probably love his accent, you have a good accent. He does, he doesn't like mine though. He says I'm like lucky charms guy. It's not you're way better at air guitar. Yeah I am so all right. Last question if you gotta pull club out of your bag. Yeah and play air guitar? Which one is it with? That's what a question. Play air guitar with Witch Club. It actually would be my putter that my brother Michi gave for our birthday last year to me. That's a replica of the club. The putter that Sevy biased eros used for a long, long time. Heavy is my idol. Okay has been and that's my favorite club. So I would pull that and play air guitar on my pa I was thinking more driver because it's a base, you know like the long. No, I I you know I learned how to play. Actually my putter would be more like a UKulele. You're my kids make fun of me all the time because I bend over so far to put. Uh huh. You know I play with my boys constantly and then uh you know so they get to play, they play scramble and I played by myself and I still whoop them all the time. So good. I said you still got a long way to go. I mean come on really tell him to give me a call, I'll talk to them about how they treat you. It's terrible. It's terrible, terrible. Anyway you can get me on twitter at real loro five L. A. U. R. O. And the # five. Alright then everybody can catch you on ESPN radio. Right? Uh yep. W local is that national show its local um all over Kentucky and but we have an app. It's W. L. X. G. Dot com and you can go in there and listen live anytime you want. Awesome. I'm gonna check it out. I got to go listen to you. I want to hear this guy yelling at you about Wisconsin. So ted all right, I'll call in right after ted I would love that you can call. I actually I'll talk to terry and we'll get you. I love to call in. I don't know if you know this but oh my God, the NFL season started like a few minutes ago. I don't know. Yeah, I know. Tell me about it. I am probably, you're probably rooting for brady right? No, we call them mom trading. So I'm not watching any game that the Cry boys playing. Oh so you're not even watching tonight? I'm not I'll walk by the T. V. And I'll go, oh great because I have to I'll have to talk about it tomorrow but I'll read about it on twitter after the game. I'm not watching jerry jones team. No, no I'm not doing it. I have to I have a little infinity for the cowboys just because I coached Ezekiel Elliott in high school. So so I little I gotta watch a little bit there. I love Zeke. I love Dak. I love it's not about that. It's more about obviously the Giants and the Cry boys, their rivalry, but to me it's about jerry jones period. I don't want anything to do with them. So it's like Daniel Snyder. Yes, exactly. Right owners in sports. We could get into this. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll definitely have to call into your show. Absolutely. Any time. Any time. Well, hey, Matthew, this has been awesome is one of my favorite shows. I appreciate you joining me on auto up with Gus, I had so much fun. Thanks Gus, I can't tell you what it means to me seriously to do this with you. Well, you know, we'll have to, I'll have to come down...

...recorded on my phone will do the bourbon tour, will go golfing and uh, we'll have another show. Absolutely. We might not be coherent, but there's fun. You're next. Good. That's good podcasting and you're yeah, you're irish accent will come out and it'll sound perfect. It'll be perfect. Okay, Alright buddy. Hey, thank you, Matthew for joining me. Thank you and thank you brian and terry to. Thanks for having me. I'll talk to you. All right, take care buddy, have a good night. So yeah, Hey everyone, uh that was a great episode with Matthew, I appreciate you listen to how to up with Gus uh join us every week. Uh, and you can listen to us wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. What a great guy. I can't believe how awesome he was. We just had an amazing talk. But hey, I want to thank all my partners want to thank brian and terry for helping terry. Thank you so much for getting great guests. Uh, And I want to thank 1631 digital news sounder FM and don't forget about Vegas sports advantage. And that's a wrap sportsman. Thanks for joining in the fun at the 16 31 digital studios for another to huddle up with us featuring 15 year NFL quarterback restaurant Huddle up with Gus is proudly produced by 1631 digital media and is available on apple music.

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