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Kurt Warner

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Joining us in the Huddle is Hall of Famer and SuperBowl Champion Kurt Warner. he has been through all of the ups and downs life can throw at you and his strong faith and love from his family has pushed him to the top of the NFL. He continues his journey by coaching and studio work. You can check out his charity, First Things First on his website... http://www.kurtwarner.org/about.html   I found this great story about Kurt online by Mike Moraitis. I thought you might like to read it. Next time you go to the supermarket and you have someone bagging your groceries, take a good look at that person and try to figure out if you could peg them as a professional athlete or Hall of Famer. Believe it or not, Kurt Warner could’ve been that guy bagging your groceries. Yes, that’s right, I’m talking about the same guy who is a former NFL MVP quarterback and holds numerous records as one of the greatest playoff performers in NFL history. Warner worked the $5.50 per hour job back in 1994 after being cut as the Green Bay Packers’ fourth-string quarterback. It looked hopeless for the struggling signal-caller, and it seemed impossible that he would one day lead “The Greatest Show on Turf.” But it didn’t end in that grocery store in Iowa. Instead, Warner kept working to achieve his ultimate goal of being a starting NFL quarterback. There were two things Warner never gave up on: his faith and his skills. Warner moved on to play in the Arena Football League, where he began to flourish and then stepped up to more talented competition in NFL Europe. It was there that Warner caught the eye of NFL scouts and finally landed a job with the St. Louis Rams and their bright yellow jerseys. He quickly made the often-maligned jerseys respectable, and after an injury sent starter Trent Green to the bench, Warner proved he belonged in the NFL with MVP-caliber play. That season, Warner was second in the NFL in passing yards with 4,353 and led the league with 41 touchdowns and an incredible 65.1 percent completion percentage. Ultimately, Warner went on to win the MVP that season and lead the Rams to their first of two Super Bowls (won in 2000, lost in 2002). But St. Louis began to decline as a franchise after its second trip to the Super Bowl, and so did Warner himself. Constant interceptions and fumbling made Warner look washed-up just a few years after being one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Everyone gave up on him, the Rams included, and Warner’s success was pegged as the result of the elite talent around him and not Warner himself. Warner went on to sign with the New York Giants and continued to struggle, eventually getting pulled for the Giants' quarterback of the future, Eli Manning. I’d say it was the right move for the G-Men, but it left Warner without a job once again. It wasn’t until the Arizona Cardinals took a chance on him that Warner showed he still had something left. Given his chance to start, Warner had one of his best seasons in 2008. He was second in the NFL with 4,583 yards, which happened to be the second-best yardage output of his entire career in a single season. He was also tied for third with 30 touchdowns and was second with a 67.1 percent completion percentage. That percentage was also the second-best of Warner’s career. Much like he did with the Rams, Warner took the Cardinals to the Super Bowl in 2008 and lifted them out of the hole they had been in for the entirety of their existence. In that Super Bowl, Warner left the field with his team in a position to win only to have it squandered by the Pittsburgh Steelers last-minute drive to win the game. The huge numbers he put up in Arizona erased any lingering thoughts about Warner falling off. He single-handedly took the franchise to a level it had never been. In all, Warner owns or shares multiple records, including several important ones in the postseason.  Not bad at all for a guy who used to bag groceries for minimum wage.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You know where my daughter was homefrom school. My son was home from school and we got a lot closer becausethey're a lot older now and we got Tho- really dig into things where theyweren't just home for Christmas. So I don't know how that was for you, butwas everybody home for you for the most part yeah until my my sonwent back to Nebraska, as they were kind of getting ready and trying tofigure things out. We had the whole creier and it's been good. You know Imean obviously there's been times. I think, we've all driven each othercrazy, we're all going a little stirrd, crazy and we've had enough of eachother. So we got to separate at times, but I agree: It's been a lot of greatquality time and I think you know it really helps you to take a step back.We get so busy in life. Sometimes and o things come at you and you just take onone thing after another after another, and you don't realize how busy you allR or how little time, little quality time you really get with your family,and I think this is shown me. You know some of that, like okay Lt', let's makesome changes when life goes back to quote unquote normal, whatever that'sgoing to look like, but when we get back to more normal lives, let's makesure that we carve out some time to be together more and to focus on eachother more because I think that's something that's easily easilyneglected, but we've been kind of forced to goback to that and and I'm with you, I've appreciated that part of it and growncloser to my family in a lot of ways because of it. Yeah I've really enjoyedit. So, let's go back to your family when you were growing up in Iowa. Youknow what was that first memory that you have of grown up where you fell inlove of sports? Well, I mean you know. I didn't have awhole lot when I was growing up. We lived in a small little house with asmall little front yard in the front yard was connected to a really busystreet, but I think my first recollection wasjust my brother and I out there in that little front yard, with a millionpeople going by playing one on one football, and you know creating rulesas we go. They throw the ball up in the air and you can't tackle them untilthey catch the ball, and I mean just creating corny little rules becausethere was just the two of us in a small little area, but that was really how Ifell in love with sports. Is You don't have a lot? It's easy to get a ball ofsome sort. You know whether ies ball and I pitch nine innings against a wallor whether it was basketball, just a hooping, a basket and I'd spend hoursout in the cold, with gloves on shooting, baskets or re. As I said,playing one on one football with my with my brother. So all those littlethings, I think was really were really a huge part of my upbringing and whatbrought us closer together as a family brought me closely with together withmy brother and those are really the earliest memories that I have of what life waslike first, but also how I fell in love with the different games or sports ingeneral yeah, I'm with you. I grew up the sameway. You Know Little House we didn't have much and and whatever ball she had.You know if you had a baseball that was the baseball you had for the whole year.You wer there was no Dick Sporting goods around the corner where you couldgo and get a dozen of baseballs right. So my dad was a factory guy and youknow we would just have pickup games. I had an old wooden bat that was handeddown through. I don't know how many people and you know and you'd go get abunch of guys. You go to a close field and we all just play. There was no umpsthere, ere, no refts or no parents, and you figured out you made rules yourself,and I think we learned a lot by doing that and we learned how toplay the game in a in a way that you just got through it. I don't, I think,kids really miss that today. For some reason I do to I mean I think everything is sotechnical and you know it's like we're: building robots, sometimes with ourkids, specially when it comes to sports, because all they want to do is pick onesport and they want to go to a trainer and they want to. You know, do the samething over and over and over again, and...

...and I'm with you, I feel like I learnedhow to throw a football by being chased around my my brother in the Front Yard,N Howto, throw it to a guy when I'm running to the left and he's going tothe right or and when everybody's getting playedmandaman coverage, andyou got to realize. Okay, O, I have to throw it over the defender or do I haveto drive it on them and right so little. You know nowadays, when you go to thesetrainers, do you get opportunity to just kind of freelance and play thegame and learn how to use your body to throw you know? I've got a son thatplays quarterback in high school and that's one of the hardest things for meto teach him is. You know he wants to drop back and when you drop back andyou're doing all this technical stuff, there's so many things that can comeinto play when you're running around and you'v got to figure out. Okay, howdo I throw it to that? Guy? That's thirty yards away from me when I'mrunningto, my right- and you know I see a lot of these guys in the NFL now, andit's amazing that Pagrin myhomes and Tyler Murray and Russel Wilson, arollbaseball players right right and at a big thing for me too, is I played everysport because in baseball, how often do you get to get a ground ball and set upand step to the nofirst base or wherever and throw it? You know notvery often you're moving and you're grabbing it and you're twisting and,and that was kind of how we played in the backyard- and I think that is alost art now with a lot of these kids is that in a perfect world they canprit play really well, but you know when things start to break down andtheir technique gets away from them. Can they still be successful and youknow a lot of these guys can't because they just haven't been out in thebackyard I mean I try to encourage my son all the time, just invite sevenbuddies over and go play fany. I know you're a quarterback. Go play defensiveback right, yeah, you know different aspects of being an athlete andcontroling your body, but it is, it's become so specialized that I', I'm kindof like you. I feel like we've lost a lot in terms of what an athlete is,what an athlete looks like it's not just running a fourour forty to theability to control your body and manage different things that come yourdirection, and you know a lot of these kids are getting away from it, becauseit's all about training for one specific thing. Well, you know in yourright lege. I thought Patrick Mahomes was breath of fresh air for that,watching him and saying hey, I'm just going to go out and have fun. I me whenhe's throwing no look pass us in an NFL gave him like what what if you knowwhat I mean like North Turner would have pulled me out. So quick, if Iwould ave ever thought of doing something like that, but you knowthat's the. I think that's the great thing about when you see people thathave played multiple sports that have had success in all of them. You know hecan go and do that, and you know it's really interesting that that we line like that, because I feel thesame way: man, these kids, I even in high school. These kids are saying. No.I just want to play defense right. That's all! I want no play offense.Let's do it all right get everybody involved. Now some teams are bigger.There's ninety kids, so you gotta make everybody somehow some way, but I agree with you: You got you got toplay multiple sports, so you talked about that when? U, when you go toschool in high school you're playing multiple sports, so you go from doingall these things as young kid and you're playing ing your arm with yourbrother now you're on real teams, real organizations. For me that was a lot.That was a big change. You know from going playing backyard stuff to reallyorganizing coaches, hammering on you all the time W at was that like for you yeah, I mean you know, I think there isalways pluses and minusses. You Know Times that you just like Tan. I justwant to be out here. You know it's what I realize now when I coach High SchoolFootball, is that you realize you might have a squad of forty five kids and allof them are there for different reasons right. Some of them just want to be outthere running around with their buddies, and they want to wear a Jersey onFriday night and they don't if they play or they've BN, move on or whatever,and so I think that's sometimes the hardest part when you get intoorganized sports is that you know you want to play and you want to becompetitive. But what level do you want to play at? It can be different for alot of different people and it can obviously be different for coachesright. Sometimes you have coaches that...

...don't understand that, but hey I'm justout here to have fun with my buddies and they think everything is aboutwinning and getting to the next level and so yeah. I think, there'schallenges, but I think there's also benefits of you know the disciplinethat comes with that and you know being able to perfect your craft and you knowbe accountable to a team in situations that you know they actually have. Youknow matter or have some bearing on them. You know I mean I loved CompetitiveSports. I love to organize sports. I love being out there with my buddy sojust kind of depending on what the situation was, that there were timesthat I love just to compete and I wanted to convete to be the best andthere were other times e was fine with me like Ey, we got a ball and there'snine of my buddies. That's let's go do something right. I recently hadherblang on. They callt him flight time he's a. He was a hard on globe trotterfor eighteen years and we were having a discussion. He grew up in Arkansas andhe played football, an basketball and we have a discussion about what wasbetter coming out with your basketball team with the music plaing, and you gotyour new shoes on and you got your you know your rip off, sweats getting readyto play or Friday Night Lights, and I think we both came the conclusion ofthere's just something special about Friday, night lights and everybodygetting there and you're getting ready for a game, and it goes from beinglight to dark and the lights come on. It was just I don't know I mean for me.It's always been like there's just no feeling you get from that. I mean you know. I think the otherthing that's always special about football too, is that you know seasonsare always shorter and there's only so many games. You know that you play it,doesn't matter what level you're at you know. You could bear high schoolfootball to every other sport pro football to every other sport. You onlyget so many opportunities to do it and to me, that's what makes it so uniqueand so special BIM playing a hundred and sixty two baseball games. You knoweveryone's not going to have that Sam feel, okay, playing sixteen footballgames and that's all I get and that's you know those sixteen games matter,every one of them matters. You know, I think, that's where it gets that feeland it becomes so special because it is so unique, and that goes all the waydown the high school level when you're playing Wat, nine or ten games, and youonly got so many shots at this thing and everybody comes out for football.It's obviously you know so popular N in our country, and so it is it's a uniquebeast and it's so much fun to do. But I just think you know when you put thatmuch on each an every game, it just lightened the experience, for you knoweverybody whether it's a fan, whether it's a coach or obviously, if you're aplayer, so yeah you'R High School coach, now you've done some coaching. Do yougo back and think about a coach that really influenced you in high schooland like some of those things that he said to you, your team and then you usethose as well? No doubt about it, no doubt that therewere certain people growing up in certain coaches that I reallygravitated to, and that really taught me you know you know sports teaches anmore about lifes than it's than it does about sports. You know lessons that youlearn ways to carry yourself and how to you, Kno create character and value indifferent things, but I did have somen some great coaches when I was growingup specifically a basketball coach in highschool. That was also an assistant football coach, but just a good man and a good man ofcharacter, and he pushed me ard and he saw potential, but he was right there to support me,no matter what happened and so yeah. I think about that. All the time- and youknow- and I try to take that in a consideration were not coaching- iswhat kind of coach do I want to be, and how can I help all these different kids-and you know big part of that is- is trying to recognize what they want toget out of their experience and then trying to give them that as a coach,some kids want to move on and they want...

...to play at the highest level. So canyou push them, and can you teach them to the point where they've got thatopportunity, as I mentioned before, other kids just want to be out therewearing a Jersey and having a good time. I want to be able to connect with thosekids to and have a good time with those kids and give them that experiencewithout trying to push them to a level that they don't want to go. And sothat's to me that to me is what coaching is all about its being able torecognize what you can do and what you can bring to the table to makesomeone's experience better. Whatever experience it is that they that theywant to have yeah, I used to I coach in St Louis at John burroughs school at's,where my kids went to high school and I coached he football team there for fouryears and when we started the season, I would go up to every kid I mean we onlyhad twenty eight kids so Wen that hard, but I would go up to every kid and say: Doyou want to play football at the next level and if they said Jess or no, that wouldgive me an idea. You know, then you go off their tallent. You say: Okay, youwant to play at the next level. You know, there's a lots of places that areout there from division. Three alway up to you know the top of the top, and Icoach kids that went to every level and by them letting me know what their kindof ambitions were. Let me know how they,you know how to have fun with them, how to push them. I'ld do different thingswith them. I was Lucky enough to coaching Z, Zeco Elliot in high school,so we were usually ahead in games and I'd pull Zik out and then everybodyelse could go and have fun. So it was really easy being a high school coachwith him, but you know, I think that what you're doing is great you'recarrying on that tradition. So when you were in high school, were you highlyrecruited coming out of high school? No, not not at all. You know obviously was an wall stateplayer, so I was very successful in high school, but I only got onescholarship off for coming out of high school. You know litle interest to you,the linterest there, but only one scholarship offer, as I was coming out,little smaller School University of Northern Iowa at the time as a onedoublea school and how it's I don't know football championship series FCS,I think, is in evs there's so man new things, yeah t up one of those things,but no, I wasn't highly recruited at all and you know it one of those things that attime at the time was really frustrating. You know trying to figure out thatprocess, but but again I think all of thosethings shape us shape, who we are shape, how we chase after you know what ourdreams are and without a question. You know that did that, for me, is thatcouldn't figure it out didn't know why you know, but I think it pushed me towant to whether be prove oer everybody wrong or prove that I belong and Coaldplay at a high level. Whatever it was, you think it helped to shape me that Iwasn't howly recut did you? Were you recruited in any other sports yeah? I was probably more recruited inbasketball than I was in football, and so that was you know one of the thingsthat I kind of juggled, because I love basketball. You know Basketballis justone of those sports and it's very easy to practice rid I a underpractice,basketball or football, especially your quarterback, there's only so manythings that that you really enjoy when you can get seven on seven or eleven oneleven and really compete so yeah. I wrestle back and forth withnot a lot of football scholarships that I want to go somewhere and playbasketball, because I love basketball, but in ultimately the end of the day Ifelt like I wanted to try to play. You know professionally and just felt likefootball was going to be my best option to do that, because some of thechallenges that I faced as a basketball player, so so that was the reason that I chosefootball loved. Both sports love different aspects of both of them, butbut you know wanted to see if I could continue my career, Beyon, beyoncollege and so BOC football was that...

...best option. Yeah I felt the same way.I was kind of recruited in baseball and then I had the choices to make you know.Do I want to go baseball route? I gwant to go football route. My Body's tellingme right now probably should have done the baseball rob, but did the football rout so you're rightyou get to northern Iowa. You know you're lot of people when they go tocollege. I mean I had a lot of friends that when I was a freshman that theyjust left, they were nervous. They were scared, whatever it was. What was yourexperience like when you had to make that transition from high school toCollege Yeah? I mean, I think, the transition anywhere. You know whether it's on thefield ore off whether it's high school, the College College to pro yeah,there's, always a transition, and you know I always tell people that you know. I believe you know thebiggest challenge from going from one level to the next is proving toyourself that you belong right. I mean it's so easy for all of us as athletesand with our Egos and whatever to you know, go out there in t e social media,or you know, stand out there, an Friday nights and beat our chest O. Leteverybody know how Greare we are, but you know there's always a provingground that we have to make when we go from one step to the next to prove toourselve that we can play- and you know that was definitely you know-definitely something that I dealt with and, like you said, I think a lot ofpeople walk away, because it's that fear of- and I don't know if I belong-I don't know I fit in. I don't know if I could do this, and instead of kind ofwaiting it out and challenging yourself through it a lot of people, I think,will turn the other direction and and Rungo man. I just don't feelcomfortable in this, but we've all been there. You know we've all been in thosesituations that are really uncomfortable and it takes time and ittakes, you know, work to be able to prove the Ay. I belong at this nextlevel and that was tough for me in college because you talked aboutcollege ended up siting on the bench for four years in college righ. No, Ihad to wrestle with that. A lot like there's times, I thought I was goodenough and then why cant I get on the football field and then you know get alot of opportunities to actually play when you're the backup. So you you now,you start wondering D. do I belong? Am I good enough, and so I wrestled withthat with that a lot through my my career in college, trying to figure outwhere I fit in how good I was. You know where to Gaim. You know kind of myconfidence or my selfesteem. You know what kind of player I was, and so itwas. It was definitely a struggle and I had times where I even thought abouttat. Is it the time for me to move on and do something else or walk away fromthis, and obviously I'm glad that that I didn't do that, and I didn't choosethat and he's the easy way out that it's ultimately worked out for me, butyou know I understand some of those same reservations and questions that wehave about ourselves when we have to take joups from one level to thanother.Well, you know I coand imagine that had to be pretty difficult for you, becausemy son went through a little bit of that at Williama Mary, where he wentdown there to play and he didn't get to play like he wanted. He only played twoyears and he went right into coaching with the team, and so he got to stay inthe game and for you you know, were you were there for fouryears without even playing, and we know that college football is a job. We knowit is difficult. You know going to class meetings, lifting doing all thethings you have to do and for your perseverance yeah. I commend you forthat, because a lot of people want tae stay that long to say my fifth year,I'm going to get the shot right and that's what I'm going to do that. Sothat's amazing that you did that. So to now tell me about your senior year. Youfinally get the shot. You're excited. Now you get to go out in the field asthe starter and leading the team. What was that senior year like for you ell? I mean it was obviously a greatexperience. You know, because again as as athletes, we just kind of think wecan overcome everything. So, even though I sat on Tha Bench for fouryears, that was confident that I was going to take that one year and porlaythat into career in the NFL. Don't know...

...why I fought that, but that's just kindof the confidence by which we do things you know, but it was a great experiencejust to be back on the field again. You know, I think, that's tha. The biggestthing is that, of course, we all dream of accomplishing certain things andgetting to certain levels, but ultimately, at the end of the day- andI was reminded at numerous times throughout my career- that at the endof the day, we love the game for a bigger reason. We, you know, we love itfor a bigger purpose. The reason we fell in love with you know the Gamesthat we play or the things that we want to do have nothing to do with you know,reaching the highest level or you know, reaching a level of fame or making acertain amount of money that has to do with. You know different aspects of thegame and that's what I so enjoyed that senior year that you know you forgot alittle bit of that, because I wasn't playing- and you know my mindset, WathGosh. How am I going to make it at the next level? F, I can't en get on thefield here and then you final ly get Ol. I the field after four years on thebench and you just kind of like all right now. I remember why I played thisgame. You know I love leading my guys. I loved competing in those moments, asI talked about before. I love the fact that you got ten games, so every momentmattered, every game mattered, and so true, you know so I just I so enjoyedthat senior year because it just got me back to the roots of why I loved thegame and I didn't know what was going to happen moving forward, but I wasable to get back out there and compete and know that if that was 't going tobe yet for me at least, I got that one opportunity at the college level to toshow that I belonged and to enjoy the game, and if that would have been in, Icould have walked away and been happy, because my final experience was a goodone yeah. You know- and it's amazing tohear your story because you have this great senior year. I think you were inthe player of the year and your league, and you do all these incredible thingsand now you're back on a high right, you've gone through a whole college,career you've had higs and lows, and one or a today am I going to make itnow you're on a high again. Now you go try out for an NFL team with thepackers and you're up there with Farv, and I forget I mark Brenel, I think was there with you and you're up there and you're workingout with these guys and you're, seeing what it takes to be at the top. Butthen you don't make the the roster and then you have to go back down again andhumble yourself, bby getting you know, as we say in the NFL normal job right,some that millions of Americans go out and do every day you know and then to come back fromthat like? U To just have that drive, so I mean it's just amazing. Whatyou've done so tell me about the higes and lows of your lifes that you've gonethrough. I mean I've been through Hem all as well, and it's just. How do youcome back from those highs and lows? You know. I've always believe that themost important thing is to always have a phone grip on who you are as anindividual, and you know that extends farther who you are as a player,because what we realize in life is that circumstances are going to be thrown atus that are going to try to tell us that were something different or thatwe're not worriny or you're. Only as good as this circumstance that you'rein, and so I think, one of the things that helped me kind of manage the highsand lows of my career was to always try to keep a firno grasp on who I was, andwhy was the way that I am and that no matter what the success level or nomatter, you know how bad the moment was that I was in or how tough thesituation was, that it didn't define who I was as a person, and I think thatthat's easily lost in you know, in life and especially with athletes that weget so caught up with what's happening on the field, that that is our wholeidentity. And if what's happened, how? In the field doesn't Mesh with who wewant it to be want to be or what we want it to be on the field it usuallykind of makes us, you know, spiral out...

...of control, and you know you see a lotof players struggle after they get done plaing because they no longer have. Youknow that to hang on to or people telling them you know theyre grade orwhatever it might be, so our identities get so caught up with that, and youknow I really feel like you know during that period of time, when I was goingthrough some of the struggles, I was really able to figure out who I am and who I wanted to be. You know myfaith became more important to me, so I was able to kind of ground myself. Inmy circumstances, you know we're never going to tell the whole story, and you know it was all of those thingsthat I think you know kept me focused on what I wanted to accomplish, butalso you know realistic to the standpoint that if it didn't happen,that didn't mean that I was a failure or that was an awful person or an awfulplayer. Bat there's just sometimes circumstances that come into play thatwe have to deal with, and but I was never going to let those things defineme, and you know we kind of ve at saying in our family, my wife's beenthrough a lot of ups and downs, a rocky road as well. It's just that. You knowour circumstances will never define us. You know we're not going to allow whatwe're dealing with to be the catalyst on determine who weare going to be, and you know I think it's a great message for this time tooright or circumstances staying, and you got kids that you know don't get tograduate from high school and go through graduation and now You'e gotkids that are juniors and seniors wanted to play. Higho College footballand they don't get a high school season, and you know all of us. You know fromfrom a workstandpoint. You know a lot of people out there and now strugglingfrom a workstandpoint. You know that it's easy to kind ofallow that to take over and be the defining factorin our lives, and I think we have to fight through that and wrestle throughthat oftentimes in life to make sure that we we hold on to what we reallyare and in holding on to that person Anand. That character were able to workour way through a lot of things that at the moment, don't seem easy to work ther not at all, not at all. Hey we're goingto take a little break, well, be right, back we're joined by Holl favorite curtwarner, we're going to find out a little bit about our better halves whenwe come right back when I wahey listeners thanks for joining Dave and Iin the huddle, we invite you to join our excusive huddle through Patreon,where you can get access to content made just for VIPs like yourself, headto our website, huddloe up with Guscom and hit support our podcast on the popup ad. Once again, that's huddle up with guscom. Now, let's get back in thehuddle, welcome everyone back to huddle up withGus, where you can find us on radiocom wherever you listen to your favoritepodcast, also on the sport circus and now an e Thosand, hix hundred andthirty one digital, so we're joined by Cur Warner Hall of Famer Suefollchampion Kurt. You know one other thing. I think that you and I have in common,is that we have a great support system at home that we've had with us. I meanI married my wife and we've been married. Almost twenty six years now,and you know I couldn't have done anything in the NFL without her beingthere and beg my sounding board and I played for seven teams. I've been through a lot in the NFL, a a lotof adversity, just like you have, and those people keep us going. So tell usa little bit about your relationship with your wife, Brenda and and how youguys, Ave solidified this through your wholn career yeah. I mean, I think you know. As yousaid, one of the coolest things about my journey is that you know I met mywife in college and so we've been together through the entirety of thejourney through the ups and downs, the IES and loas that it's been kind of a group effortand that to me has been the greatest...

...blessing that to me you know ups anddowns and specifically, you even t best moments in life. It don't mean nearlyas much if you don't have people to share them with and if you don't havepeople that have enjoyed and endured the dorning. The journey with you- andthat is one thing that I've loved about you know my journey- is that I trulyfeel like my wife has come along on the journey with me. You know, unlike a lotof Yo, know, husbands and wives that that are in pro sports. You know oftentimes you just see whoever's playing. You know one thing about: You know ourjourney was my wife was in the spotlight a lot as well, and so we gota chance to really kind of experience it altogether and that's that's beenreally cool and you know we look back on. You knowwhere we started Anand where we finished and where we're at now- andyou know just it's just so awesome to know that from the beginning to the endwe've been together, she was there when I needed a sholder to cry on. She wasthere when I needed Somebay to hug when we won the Super Bowl, and that to me is h t what life is allabout is an I, how many people can I get close to like that that can share. You know all the unbelievable memoriesthat that were able to create ovr the years right and you know for me: It's likeyou, have a lot of friends, Wyou create so many friends in this game. You knowand you' love to keep the locker room going on for the rest of your life. Butyou know that's not going to happen and when you have those downtimes, you knowsom some friends, you have aren't going to be there for you, you know, and butyour wife Ind, that person that you love I'm with you. I've been with Annie,since you know my before my junior year in college and we've been together eversince N and we've been through therapy, we've been we've struggled with beingwith each other all the time and learned how to deal with each other andand her father was my high school football coach and we've had a dealwith all those things and we've been through the high and lows and like theHoneyman, I really don't know if I can play anymore well. Why not? You knowyou know I'm in my twelfth year, you know, and and do we want to travel to anew city? Do we want to go somewhere else and she goes yes. This is whatyou're meant to do. You know, so those types of things really keep you goingand I'm sure through your arena league experience and then going overseas andplaying you know, and all of that I mean I can't imagine that journey thatyou two had together yeah now I mean you're right and an itjust. You know so many unbelievable memories and you know I think we bothremember the moments when we sat back and go back how Di we get here and howare we going to get out of this, and then we remember the moments. You knowwhen we kind of looked at each other and go. Do you believe that that we'rehere do you believe that you know when we've got to this plan in our live andso yeah? I mean it's just there's just nothing better, that to wake up next toyour best friend every day, to have experienced the majority of the journeytogether to remember those highs and loavs and to appreciate the life thatyou have now together. I'm just I'm grateful just like you arethat I had a strong person that was willing. You know to kind of chase my dream. Youknow, because that's a huge sacrifice for someone that you Kno, even though we know that wewere meant to play football. That doesn't necessarily mean that that ourwive were meant o to follow us around. Why we like e Phata Right. So I'mextremely grateful. You know that my wife, you know, madethose sacrifices to put whatever she wanted to do on hold at times or topick up and move the family when I bounced around from one place toanother. I'm just grateful that you know t thatI do have that support system and I do have you know someone that that waswilling to make no sacrifices for me at so one thing. I always wanted to askyou, because I played with Trent we played at the redskins together andthen you know he comes he's in H. Rams...

...quarterback, your second stream. Now Imean there's been a lot of journey you've already been through in yourlife and then you know, Trent has a terribleknee injury. You come in, and I know Dick for meal said some wonderfulthings that that they're just going Na hes gon the whole team's going to wraptheir arms around you and we're going to support Curt Warner right but righwith the coach saying that is huge, but also when you get. I thot huddle withthose guys for that. First Time and now you're the leader of that team, who erethe guys or who did you really lean on in that time to say? Okay, we're goingto get this done, man, you know I mean I tik known all the guys. You know whatI realized early on, that it's very easy to to put a lot of pressure onyourself and you know to try to see expectations and chase expectations. You know at that particular time I wasjust trying to prove to people t that I belonged. You know I mean myaspirations. Of course I wanted to win super bowls, but when I became astarter that wasn't what was on the for Foit Wasoi GT approved that I can playthis week because gos for meal cand say whatever he wants. If I stink it upweek, one I'm probably because nobody knows this guy andnobody knows if he can play so I'm going to have a very short me. So I wasmore worried about me and you know we were fortunate because you know it IsaBruce and we had martial fuck and we had orlandopace and we had. You knowthese great leaders and these great pros. You know that I didn't have toworry about that, and that was probably the greatest blessing and allowed me tohave. You know great success. Early was, I didn't, feel like I had to carryanybody. I felt like I just just do your job. You know you do your job. Theguys around. You are good enough to be able to carry or lead or pick up theslack for you. You ow you mentioned trend. I mean trip was unbelievable tome in terms of you know, helping me out and giving me all his knowledge becausehe had been in the offense and you know I asked him a million questions thatd.I know he was tired of me asking him questions like Dude chut up get out ofmybut ever ance. Did he say that he graciously answered those questions?You know, and even you know, Mahall of Ame speech. You know there's only oneteammate that I really think I mean I think them all in general, but the onethat I think was treat because you know I found myself in that situation.Numerous Times later in my career were bui was like ither was sitting on thebench and the young guy was in front of me and and the young guy might havebeen having success and you have to wrestle with okay. How do you deal withthis situation and I only had to go back to trend and he was a great guidefor me to say: Hey, I'm, a part of this team and whatever I can do to help theguthats playing or the guy that's in front of me or whatever. That might bethat's my role and he accepted that role, and I do believe a lot of my success and Ican look it overall success because again had I not succeeded early, Idon't think I would V had an opportunity to sixtee late. So hishelping me early on to allow me to have early success in that system was so valuable and you know the waythat he treated me an the way that he shared those experience and thatknowledge with me. You know never forget that, and you know try to do mybest to emulate that. As I found myself in those situation, Planron yeah, you know I went through a lot inWashington DC, you know from Balin with he shuler and and the adversity of headbutton a wall until you know I had so many things in Norv and I fell apart.It was just a lot, you know and you go through all these adversities and I endup playing a long time after that. But you have all these things happen to youand you can either say I'm just going to be out for me. I'm goingto try andhelp everyone I can and when I would go to other teams, I it doesn't matter ifit was a starter or the guys behind me. It was like we're all in this togetherand I really despised people when I would go to a place and they didn'twant to share their knowledge. You know like because we were competing at thesame position which I understood, but...

I'm also like look. If something doeshappen to you and I have to go in, I'm not going to know you know you want totalk to me, and you know I don't have the tenth of the knowledge of what youhave, and so, if we can share that we're all going to be the bettertogether and I've always done at, and that was why I kind of like coaching toright is that I get to share that knowledge with everyone and- and thatsounds like that- you really have kind of felt that way throughout yourcareer. You know when you go to New York, then you go to Arizona Y. I feel,like you just grew so much through all that, and you want to really share witheverybody, your knowledge and it made everybody around you a lot better yeahand I think it was toofold. You know that I always took the approach thatwhen I signed on the dotted line with whatever organization it was, you knowthere was no fine print. That said, hey you have to be a good teammate andleader only when you're starting and then right, whatever else, when you're,not in the role that you want. Yeah, that's never in the fine frint, thefine frint says: Hey, you sign, op, a doto line, your part of this team andyour job is to be the best teammate you can be whatever that means and there'sgoing to be different times that it looks different. But you know for me alot of the time it was being tobacco and what was my role to be the bestteammate that I could be te help that team be as successful as possible atthat particular time and then the other side of that was. You know we grow upas competitors and as a competitor we said to myself man. I don't want to wina job, because I know more than the guy in tront O me. I want to win a jobbecause I'm better than t a guy in Tonbe, and so I also the approach likehere. What do you need for me? Here's all the knowledge I can give you takeit all and I'm still going to beat you out. ANYWAYS THAW IS MY PPI every timeI did it, so I wasn't afraid to pass out that knowledge, because I wanted tobeat thim out when they had that knowledge. You know, I didn't want Sointo Lookat, O he's a rookie, and so he doesn't know anything or whatever youknow. The reason is I wanted to be able to say: Hey these guys are on equalfooting, cirts doing everything and can to help that other guy. Now, let's putit to a competition and let the best guy play because to me, that's the joyof sports, it's about competition and if I wasn't the best guy, I walk overand I do what I can from the bench because I realize the best guys playing.But if I was the best guy that I dolt like, I belonged out there and therewas no reasons or no questions on why you know why I was the guy in the fieldyeah. You know and the other thing I take away from football. I don't knowhow you feel about this, but I mean you've said all kind of records. Youhave an amazing career, but when you went from St Louis and then you end up in Arizona,you know you've played with some amazing players and when you get toArizona you guys din't start off like where you wanted. But then you get tothe top right. You get to be really really good, and so I'm sure that Larryand Edron James and all the guys that you played with were really did. Didthey come up to you and ask you those questions like you know about MarshallFalk, and how did you guys de in these situations, and and did you take a lotof pride in kind of giving that knowledge out to them? Yeah, I mean, I think you know any timeyou've been to the top and you've computed at a high level, and then youcome across guys t that want to do those same things and accomplise thosesame things they're going to ask a lot of questions,and you know you're going to try to give them as much knowledge as you canto help them and Shet light on. You know what youcan you know, but you also know guess that you know I can go through certainthings and there's just certain things that I just. I can't there's no way toshare it. You've just Goo, learn by experience and you just kind of growthrough experience, but but yeah. That was always a part of my role. I thougt.When I got here to Arizona there was a losing mentality, there was a losingculture, nobody had any expectation right, I mean in most places I had beenat least we had expectations, whether...

...we were good or not. We exfected theWAN. You know we went into training, Campin, hey we're going to win thesuper bowl like everyone else, but I went to Arizona there seeme to be noneof that, and I was just kind of like man. I don't know if I've ever been ina place like this, it felt so desolate and felt, like you know, everybody waskind of just out like well I'll, try to have a good season, but I have noexpectation that we're going to have a good season. You know and O really nopossibility of US winning, and so that became one of the big challenges. Forme when I got to Arizona was- and I want to change the perspective thateverybody in this organization has and everybody outside this organization hasabout the cardinals. I want to change their perception of what they can bewant them to. You know give them hope that that there's possibilities beyondwhat the last fifty years have shown them, and so that's kind of how I approachd thatsituation there and it was a tremendous challenge, but it was also extremelyfun to be able to take guys and vold them and shape them and watch them.Carry that torch. You know, Lherery fittz Gerald was a young guy. When Igot there and you know him asking me a lot ofquestions, we became really good friends and then for us to kind ofsucceed at that level together and then to see him kind of take that towardsand he's been the ultimate leader for that organization and reallyrepresented a competitiveness. You know, in a level of expectation that theynever had before and he's been able to carry that on year in an year outs. Youknow, since I left, and so you know and he's done a great job so who's he gonnapass that onto who's the makes God, but that becomes part of the fun is thatyou know you take ownership in these organizations that you're a part of,and you feel like you did a little something to get hem where they're atand you want to see. You know that toards continue to be PASSD and youwant to continue to see those expectations you know set every year within those organizations so that youknow they're striving for something there's Triv manbe better than they'veever been before, and so it was a big challenge in Arizona, but it was alsoone of the things that I'm most proud of was being a part of changing thatperception in that culture within the organization yeah. That's amazing one.The only thing I ever really got to change was when I played in theMinnesota Vikings. I started the Donut Club on Saturday mornings and theystill do it to this day. So idid Thatno, three o four, when pat andKevin Williams, would say, bring me the biggest donut, I'm like whatever youguys want just hold them on forth down. It's all the matters Exa, but so you'vehad amazing career. Talk to me a a little bit about the kind of role that faith has playedin your career. Well, I mean the fant has been a huge. You know huge factor in reallyeverything. You know the successes, the down moments that we talked about beingable O to navigate my way through that you know. The ironic thing was that myfaith, where it's at now you know, wasn't the same when I waskind of going through a big part of the journey, and you know I came to to build arelationship with Jesus and to make faith a priority. You know when I wassitting on the bench and when I was working in a grocery store an when Iwas trying to find my way back to the NFL, and so you know, I count that askind of my training round, not just my training round, to become a betterfootball playter, but my training round to figure out who I was and what Iwanted to be about and what I wanted to accomplish in life. You know what thetrue Meang of my life was, and so was very fortunate that when I finally got to the NFL, I wasvery focused on what I believed in and who I wanted to be in the values that Iwanted to to possess. Kind of you know share t with everybody,and so, as top of some of that training round,was I really felt like both football...

...lises and off the fied that prepared mefor what was to come and- and I don't know where I would be without it- I don'tknow what kind of person I would be. I don't know what kind of player I wouldhave been. I don't know how I would have handled you know he success or you know thenumerous benchings that I went through. I know you know what life would havelooked like had I not had my faith and been grounded in this is who you are.This is how you represent yourself and it's bigger than football, it's biggerthan the accomplishments, that you have it's about, the impact that you canhave on other people and that can look a lot of different ways, but thatreally became my mindset when I got to the NFL as much as I want to compete inand be successful, not ever going to sit here and say that that wasn't stilla part of what I was trying to do, but it was all within balance and focus ofthat's not the most important thing keep things in perspective and be ableto use your highand low moments to impact the people around you. So I would just say that my faith wasessential and who I was the player. I was but more importantly, that thecareer I had on and off the field was real, really always dictated and driven by my faith. By who I wanted to be, andmost importantly, byt who I was representing right. No, THAT'S AWESOME!So then Youyou've gone through this journey of football. You retire. Youknow, there's a next step in it right. So you've done a lot after you got outof the game. You know, charity and community is really drilled into us inthe NFL. We want to give back. So you've done a lot of that. You want toalso work, and you know you have to earn a living for your family and youhave seven kids at cost a lot of money right. So there's a lot of steps thatyou have to take in all that you can have a lot of money, but if you're notmaking more than it becomes tough, so now you're in a different journey youget into the hall of fame. Now that has cantopoled you to another level thatyou know only so many NFL players know about right and it's an amazing. Youwent in with my good friend Martin Anderson that year and I was at at theceremony that when you were there, because I went to Morton's after partyand he was just off the chain, but he was he had a lot of fun thatd. I 'llsay that, but now you've done so much Wi tell us like really what you'reproud of. Since you left the NFL. You know man, you know I've reallyenjoyed my time since I'me retired and you know I'm proud of all of it. I mean.Are you retired though? Well yeah, I mean the exactly that's what my wifeask S. ask me that again yesterday because, as you said, I think I'mGidzoyour Nath than I was before, but ye I still feel like I'm young. I stillfeel like. I have freedom within what I do, but I still feel like I've got alot. I want to accomplish right, theres, there's more to do than you know, justthe first forty years of your life, so I'm excited about that. But but I'mreally proud of a lot of things I mean you know proud of the differentchallenges that I've taken in retirement. You know one of the bigthings you know we talked about provingyourself from one level to the next on the football field, but I think youknow probably the biggest challenge that I've faced in my adult life waswhat I retired and you say: Well, I've SPANT, whatever thirty some years of mylife, focusing on one thing, I'm not sure, I'm good at anything else, I'mnot sure I can do anything else. So what am I going to do for the nextforty years of my life? If I got no other skills, so the challenge of goingokay? What am I going to do next and how can I challenge myself and you knowand feel good about whatever's next in life? Even comparing it to you know thelast career that I had, and so I've really enjoyed kind of challengingmyself in different ways and not every challenge has worked out and not everychallenge. I've been good at whatever I've taken on, but but I've tried different things and I'mtrying to figure that out and so I'v...

Love the TV and and the NFL work thatI've done, whether it's calling games working for the NFL network. That's aunique challenge in itself, but I think it's it's fed some of the competitivejuices that are inside of me still, and that is inside of all of us- iscompetitors, and so it feeds you to want to be good at something elsecontinue to do. A lot of charity work. My wife and I just about two years ago,opened a community living facility for young adults with intellectual, andevelopmental disabilities, our oldest son, Zach uvered, a traumatic braininjury when he was young and so to kind of give a full life to you knowsome of those individuals- and I think re forgotten part of our community andso for a couple years, inter that and the place is almost full and it'sthriving and 's doing great, and so I'm proud and excited of a about that. Youknow I've got another foundation that I'm you know that I've had some side.You know second on third year in the National Football League and whichtryed to give people that don't have the same blessings that I have somesome opportunities that they might not other otherwise. Have I'm proud of that Broud of the opportunities to be a dad,and you know, to watch my kids and to make them a priority. When I know for along time you know work and football was a priority. You know do the duringthis whole pandemic. You know, I think we were all kind of sitting aroundgoing okay. What am I supposed to do? And what's next and what's life goingto look like you when, when we get through this and what's normal going tobe again- and so you know during this time I did a number of like zoommeetings with quarterback rooms and we did zoom meetings. You know for a highschool team and you know, did consulting with a lot of coaches and soright now in the process of developing a a coaching instruction platformcalled TB confidential. That I'm going to launch a little later this month, in which I feel like I can have afurther reach inside this game. You know being able to teach you know onthe field stuff and obviously the mental stuff that goes with it, butalso being able to share my journey very much like you're doing, share myjourney and encourage and motivate guys as they find themselves in differentplaces, but really just about hey. How can I have an impact? You know with thethings that tha done, the knowledge that I have and maybe the expertisethat I have in football ow. Can I parlay that into a chance to truly impact people advance,a game that I love, give people new opportunities and you know maybe moreimportant than anything- encourage people, no matter where they're they'reat on their path, the kin pushing because you never know what thepossibilities are. You know over my shoulder here. Yea,you got the whole of Gamebust and don't do that to let people go im in the hallof same but a lot of times it. You know it reminds me of the journey that forso long you know people wanted to say you don't have a chance. You can't makeit you're sitting on the bench you're working in a grocery store, and that'sjust a reminder to me. You know every day that you know those circumstanceswon't Defie me, and you know that you continue to work. You continue tobelieve you have faith, you never know what the possibilities are and- and Ithink that's really what I want to do over the next forty years- is try topresent new possibilities and give people hope about new possibilities,whether it be you know, those that are suffering with disabilities in somefashion- those that maybe you know in situations where they'resuffering financially or don't have some of the blessings that I have.Maybe that's in the game of football, where you know guys are gettingopportunities by what you're able to teach them. You know in that regard or evencharacter. You know just working with high school kids. You know maybethere's something that you teach them in a lesson that you teach them, thatthat carries with them like we talked about earlier, like the messages ourcoaches had for us and that can be the driving dorce that takes them somewherenew and somewhere special n theyre. Like so you know, I love again I'll saeretirement semiretirement, I tot Weri...

...and being able to enjoy all thesedifferent things that I'm doing and I'm not looking to stop anytime soon. I'mlooking to continue to have the impact, but I'm also continuing to look for theproper balance for my marriage, my kids, myself and also being able to to usethe blessings that I have in whatever way possible that to help others. Okay,one last question: Before we get in our two minute drol, I know you have amovie coming out about about your life. How do you feel about that? And I meanthat that's got to be something special for you. It is you know it's. You know it'samazing. You know for so long in my journey, you know we talked about faithearlier. You know hit my knees in prayer and I'd be asking God you knowgot. Why me, you know why can't you know I'd be the number one draft Ping.Why do I have to sit on the bench? why Ar Ote Gein Gro and then you know onceyou look back on the journey and now I hit my knees and I go guys w. Why didtyou choose me for this. You know. Why did I get the blessing of walking thisGermany that no one else asks that no one else will ever have a journey thatyou know gets a movie made about your life. You know that move had some greatplayers in this game that don't get movies made about them, because it's you know those moviesareae about bigger journeys than that, and so I'm you know, I'm just I'mhumbled and I'm honored that that I've been able to. You know to take thisjourney. That God's chosen me for this journey and we're excited about thepossibilities of the moving right. I mean it's really just to me. I want toget the essence of the story right and I want to inspire and motivate peoplethrough our journy. You know kind of the same stuff when IAM talking aboutthe possibilities in life, you know, given people hope what it seemshopeless. You know when ther circumstances say: EA, there's nochance, there's no way that you're ever going to get to where you want to go. Our story, I think, shows- and it's notjust my story, my wife's story as well that a lot of people don't know as wellin the stories are all about perseverance and it's about overcoming,and it's about, you know being able to work through circumstances that aren'twhere we want to be, but continuing to stay focused on abelief that we can. We can get somewhere that nobody expects us to get,and you know that's really. I think the message of the movie and we're excitedabout we're excited about that. You know, and hopefully, through all ofthis you know we can find a way to get that thing shot and tthey're looking ata release next December. So next Christmas so we'll see, but but we are definitelydefinitely excited about the pospords. Now that that is awesome, I you knowit's going to be exciting an if a country ever needs it more of the story and to understand what ittakes for you to get through tough situations. You know these kind ofstories help people get through and that's what I want to deliver to myfans and to people right now. Is that saying that look? We all all deal withthis and we have our own way of dealing with it and you need a support system.You need friends around you and don't give up, don't quit, there's going tobe something around a corner. You just got o believe in yourself and do thebest that you can that you can do it that day. So your faith, your family andfootball', really ingren you into the hearts of America right now we're goingto do a two minute. True, I don't know when the last two minutes drill you ran,but we're going to go down the field here and we'll see how far you get. Soare we ready phone ar their riots on ther right, Rong ansers I mean like op.Am I gointo Gete Bod, O okay, pretty easy they're, pretty easy!You Ready Sonar here. We go all right, all right, two minutes one'clock gas or electric car electric fly or drive like FY ighaligt. What's your pet peeve, my pet peeve is when believe the milkout of because I hate more milk. Okay,...

...what is your Mount Rushmore of NFLplayers? Players, not just Qarter Bout, anybody,no just quoterboh M GSH, I'm Gong to say Walter Paydon, I'm gonna, say Marsia Falk, because hewas the best player that I ever played with. Oh my gosh probably put lowrnceTaylor on there and then I got to put a quarterback. I got to put Tom Rady onthere, even though I could make up a whole Mont rush more with quarterbacks,but I'm going to put Brady on there as well all right, hot or cold, oh hot. Definitely hot favorite sportsmovie WHO's, Yours Hoges, all right. Whatrecor recreational sport you play now basketball is my is my first love loveit all right. If you cand change places with one person in history for a daywho would it be, I would probably choose a president. Idon't know which President, but I would probably choose a president and just Ithink we all should be in that role for one day just to see it o Gointo. Whatgoes into that position right all right now, who's, your favorite QB, my Fav, Be Somebody O. Oh man, I mean my favorite crbqbgrowing up was Roger Stawbuck. I was a huge cowboys fan and our stories wereFo. What similar he's got great character to him. I still think TomRady is the best quarterback we've ever seen. Gosh I mean you know again when youappreciate the position like we do. I culd pick different guys for differentaspects of the game, but but I'll leave it with those two all right. I got twomore for you. Okay, would you text call email or written note which one would you prefer? Well, I dolike written notes, but in this day and age I'm going to choose probably textover anything because it's just easier, but I do like written notes to eitherreceive them or send them all right and last one which I think is kind ofappropoted today and all the conversations going on Jordan, Kobi orLebron Jordan. I mean they're all phenomenal,but I grew up in Iowa where we didn't have a pro sports team. I grew up whenthe Bulls were riding high and Bigho. Jordan was on my TV every day, so I'mgoing Jorda. What do you think your kids would say? I don't think my kids know enough aboutJordanati R Cria sthelast dance. They all watched it. Maybe they have agreater appreciation, but man it's hard to argue. I wouldn'targue with any of them hat. I think one might say Lebron. I think the other onemight say Kobe and so we'd have a pretty good debate in our household.That would be good. Well current. You didn't get it in the end zone, but youkick the field go. We want to thank you for joining. I want to thank you forjoining me on huddle up with Gus, please let our fans and everyone wholistens to our show, no, where they can find you where they can find go to yourwebsites, maybe help you out donate to your charities, whatever you want themto know, give us one last shot at it. Well, I mean, I think the best way isjust on twitter at Hur Thirteen Warner, I'm always posting stuff about ourfoundations. I'll be posting self about JB confidential that'll be coming outat the end of the month. So that's probably the best way to get all theinformation about what I'm doing so again, hur thirteen on twitter and wecan direct you to the different places. If you want to find out moreinformation about treasure, house or first things, first or whatever we'redoing yeah well, thank you and you're going to be doing NFL network againthis year. I will be. I don't know what capacity it's, what it's going to looklike this year, but I'm nesat other be back bu for you, arguin with Micarvin, so in or Thi Giv tethank you for joiningDave Ad. I in the hum. We hope you...

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