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Kendra Stabler Moyes

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Joining me in the Huddle this week is Kendra Stabler Moyes. She is the daughter of Hall of Fame QB, Ken "The Snake" Stabler. We talk about what life was like growing up with a dad who was such a larger-than-life personality and player. 

Marnie Schneider Joins us as my Co-host and Kendra's friend. They talk about their relationship and the ties they both have with the Ronald McDonald House. Marnie has also written books about traveling to NFL cities called Football Freddie and Fumble the Dog. http://footballfreddie.com

Check out the Stabler Foundation. 

https://kenstabler.com/xoxo-stabler-foundation/

Hey everyone, Welcome to anotherepisode of huddle up with Gus, I'm your host, former NFL quarterback GusFrerotte and welcome to the new 16 31 digital new studio. You know, somepeople say no news is good news. Well I say to those people you've never read.16 31 digital news dot com. Go to 16 31 digital news dot com to get your latestnews, sports, music and entertainment and maybe even listen to your favoritepodcast. Follow up with gusts. Check it out today at www. 16 31 digital newsdot com. Welcome to what surely will be a doozyof a matchup brian here. Sports fans, whether your game is on the gridiron atthe diamond or on the links, we can only say, yeah, welcome to this week's huddle upwith gusts. 15 year NFL quarterback Gus parents, passion for sports has takenhim on the field and behind the bench is playing for seven NFL franchiseswith 114 TVs under his belt. Gus knows who the players are and how the gamesare. One. Uh, it's not every day you get to hang out with an NFL quarterbackup. Okay, sports fans from the decked out and plush 16 31 digital studios,it's kick off time. So snap your chin straps on and get ready to huddle upwith us two left. Hey everyone, welcome to anotherepisode of Head off with Gusts. I'm your host, Gus Frerotte, 15 year NFLquarterback and I'm really excited for today's guest. Her father was one of myall time favorite even though I was already and he was a lefty. So thatwill give you a little hint to who he is and, and uh, you know, I think thatI want to thank everyone who is a part of my show. Um, 16 31 Digital News. Iwant to thank Sounder FM And especially want to thank Manscaped guys out thereif you if you have a little trouble and you want to take care of yourself alittle bit better. Go to Manscaped dot com. Use my code Gus Frerotte get 20%off and free shipping. We've had some incredible people go there and buy someproduct already so you might as well join them and go to Manscaped dot com.Use my code Gus Frerotte, that's F R E R Ott. Use all caps, save 20 and getfree shipping. I'm also joined I guess my co host back today. So I'm joined byMarni again, marty, how are you doing? You know, Marnie has written footballFreddie and fumbled the dog and uh you know, she, these books are incredible.She gives them out everywhere she can and she is doing an incredible jobmarty. How are you? I'm doing great, Thank you guys. Thanks for that. Niceintroduction. I'm doing really well. Thank you. Well, I don't even think I'mdoing you any justice because I think everything that you do, I mean, I seeall over social media, you're on linkedin, you're doing everything,you're so involved in your community and your support, everyone. Um I thinkit's just amazing all the stuff that you actually do and besides your book,you also do your heavily involved in Ronald Mcdonald House. Tell us a littlebit about that. So, the Ronald McDonald House is an incredible philanthropythat started in Philadelphia in 1974 when my grandfather Leonard Toes on thePhiladelphia Eagles. And again, it's all about community and all aboutgiving back and I think that that's one of the great things that Sports canreally do. It can unite everybody, bring people together to truly make adifference. In the Ronald McDonald House in the past 47 years has hadincredible growth. You know, amazing things have happened because peoplereally need a place to go when they have a sick child, which is what theRonald McDonald House offers to families all over the world and startedin Philadelphia. But now it's international and so I'm very excitedto be part of it. I serve on the board here in charlotte north Carolina and uh,try to do a lot of stuff outside of the Carolinas when I go to other cities anddo things. So again, but it's all about...

...the volunteers. The one thing about theRonald Mcdonald Houses that they really do rely heavily on their volunteers andso many people want to step up and volunteer. And I know that our guesttoday has, you know, definitely stepped up to the to the plate, although we'retalking football too, and it's made a huge impact in her community with theRonald Mcdonald House because her dad was a big advocate of it, like manyprofessional athletes in the early seventies, they all really gravitatedtowards the Ronald Mcdonald House. And I know Kendra and her dad were reallyhuge fans of it and continue to be. Yeah, I think the NFL does a great jobof that, of helping their guys understand what community support is.When you have a big mouth piece, you can really help and go out and promotethings that are, that means something special to you. And definitely thewrong Mcdonald House has meant something special to you because itstarted in Philly and it started with your grandfather. Uh so I think that isvery special. um and I don't know if you know this, but in the fall, duringthe football season, I'm on the Zach Galp show on CBS sports radio everyfriday and I beat him this year and he had to donate um the winnings, well mywinnings, I made him donated to the Ronald Mcdonald house this year, so uhZach, we all thank you for that, so, uh you know, like you said, we have agreat guest today, one of your friends, her father played in the NFL, but youknow today is about her, we're gonna hear some amazing stories and I want totalk to Kendra stabler about, is it? It's moyes, right, Kendra stable boys,is that right? Exactly, So, um but I want to come from my perspectivebecause you know, it's funny is my daughter uh kind of, I'm sure you guysare in the same shoes right? Like I couldn't take her in the locker roombut I could take my son's in, right, I can do a lot of things with her, but Icouldn't take her a lot of places that I could take other people. So for you,tell me about your earliest memory Kendra of like that moment of sportsthat you had and why how you fell in love with it. Gosh, my earliest memory.So it was pretty young. I was seven when he won the Super Bowl, I was asophomore in high school, I was 15 when he retired, so pretty much my wholelife was either wake up on christmas and go to a game and listen to peopleyell that your dad is throwing too many interceptions or one of the biggestmemories when I realized how much of an impact he had on people was whenDorothy Hamill came for the ice capades in Oakland and my dad took me and weare in the front rows right after he won the Super Bowl, so I'm seven andthey announced that he's there, so every dad that took their daughter tosee Dorothy Hammel all of a sudden formed a line to get autographs and soI'm trying to bob my head back and forth to watch my idol and while thesemen were getting my dad's autograph um and he would, he took so much time withevery single person that came up to him and I just watched how he treatedeverybody the same, whether you were the president or the janitor, you wereequal to him. So um that was probably my biggest memory and then after hepassed uh just worldwide, the impact of people reaching out to my family waspretty mind blowing. Yeah, yeah, I could imagine while he was a Hall ofFamer, he was an incredible player. We all knew him as the snake um and Ialways wanted to find out like if you like did you my kids call me call kindof nicknames, right, They have all kind of nicknames for me, so what did you,what was your nickname for your dad? It was just daddy, he was bad, but my, Ihave twin boys and um they were my dad's only grandchildren and so he waspapa snake and they were the grand...

...snakes, so as papa snake and the grandsnakes, that's awesome and that, I love that. So what about you? Did you playsports growing up? It didn't play tennis. Um Snow ski and scuba dive andall that stuff. I never really had an interest in football. I didn't reallyunderstand it until I got older and when I had boys is when I really trulystarted to love the sport, a big college football fan. Um I roll tideand so that's my team. Um But yeah I've always been super athletic. Um reallyactive. My dad lived on the water so we are always on the boat and fishing andsnow ski and all that. Good stuff, awesome, awesome. Yeah I think it'sgreat you know and then you know Marnie you and marty we all have like thesecrazy things in common because you and marty come from parents who were in theNFL, I was in there and I have daughters who were in there who arekind of seeing all the same things, right? She's she's been through allthat where We dragged her around everywhere. I played for seven teamsand she, they went everywhere with us, in, in hotel rooms, to apartments andyou just go everywhere. So it's interesting, I want to hear from Marnieabout that side and how you guys feel like um that's very similar for you.Yeah, well, first of all, definitely the opportunity to and I know Kendrawill agree like we were so fortunate to get to go to places and see things froma different level uh just traveling around in the way that people wouldembrace her dad. Then suddenly I know people would be nice to my grandfather,so they wanted to be nice to me and Kendra, I'm trying to wear as close toan Alabama roll time, but it happens to be my kids old sweatshirt from oakschristian or Westlake, but he was a little bit of roll time. I do. Asurprise surprise, I do not have any Oakland raider gear, although ourmutual friend Rod Martin probably would have stepped up and sent me somethinghappily if I would have put it on. Absolutely, I decided I was gonnabother him for that right now. So I went with some, you know what? Yeah,and I think, you know when people like Kendra was saying that when she went tothe Ice Capades and everybody wanted to see her dad that what it does do is itgives the child or the grandchild of that person an opportunity then tomaybe get a little bit of the royal treatment in a different way. So I knowthat I got to see a lot of cool things when I would be traveling around thingsthat I might not have seen ordinarily, but even regardless of that, justgetting to leave philadelphia and going and traveling, like the way that we didwas such a unique, wonderful experience, which really is why I ended up writingall my books and because I wanted to share the, you know, all the placesthat I went and I think that Kendra and I can relate to one another becausewhen you grow up in a household where your parents, your, my mom certainlysimilar to Kendra's dad and then your grandparents are doing unique jobs. Itis uh it does lend itself to some questions like, well do they like me ordo they like my parents or do they like this cool thing that my parents do andwhich might not even be cool to us. Like I actually didn't even realize tokind of the level, I mean, I was pretty young too when my grandfather wasreally, you know, definitely dealing in major football stuff, I didn't evenrealize that that was kind of a unique thing. It was like, okay, well you goto work with your parents or your grandparents and their work happens tobe going to a football game on a sunday, right? Yeah. It's very different. It'syeah. And like you said, you don't know if people really want to be your friendand or as a female, if a guy's dating you because they want to meet your dador get tickets to a game back. Many times people ask you for tickets, right?Totally. I don't even, I don't even...

...know what, I don't even know what thatwould be like to, you know, it's like to ask somebody to be that rude to like,can you get me tickets to something? I would never even think about that. Justreached out to me on twitter, just last week, A big fan of your dad's blah blahblah. Um My son's getting married would love to go to a Raiders game, can youget four tickets for us? I was like I can't even get tickets. Yeah it doesn'tit doesn't work like that, I can't even get tickets so that all the teams, youknow it just doesn't, the NFL doesn't work that way. But people think it does,you know, and so many people loved your dad. So what was it like for you whenyou would sit in the stands and you know as a kid, you don't reallyunderstand everything that's going on and then you would hear these peoplelike my daughter would say dad that people who are really angry at you andI'm like yeah it's just part it's just a game but people take it reallyserious and you know, you leave the white lines and you go back and you'dbe normal again, but when you're in those white lines, there's a microscopeon you. Yeah, absolutely. And I don't know about your daughter's, but itdoesn't hurt your feelings because that's that's your dad and you don'twant anybody saying anything bad about your dad. Obviously he had supersuccessful years with the Raiders. And you know, now there's these crazy,secluded, sweet. So you're not intermingle with everybody, but backthen you're just right next to the fans, the wife section and family sectionswould be right next to your average season ticket holder. And so I didn'treally notice anything with the Raiders. And it was always so great. My dad wasalways the last person out of the locker room because he would take timeyou could go as a fan in the tunnel and just wait for the players to come outand so my dad would sit and talk to every single person, we're like okayhome, I want to go home. Um and now you know that I'm older, I appreciate thataspect and how how he treated people but When he was with the Saints theywere the 8s and they were bags over their heads and so uh that would bepretty difficult because people would get pretty rowdy and they'd bescreaming and I just you know the wives would be next to you showing off whatthey got for christmas and then you've got the guys yelling snake sucks, youknow, So that was that was pretty difficult. Yeah that's hard. Um Iplayed with a hall of Famer who played with your dad, Morten Andersen and somorton when he came on he and I have been friends for a long time and whenhe came on he was telling me a story about your dad, he said here I am arookie, right, I just beat out this this amazing kicker to to win the joband you know it's I forget what game it was but uh your dad goes on thisamazing drive at the end of the game, leads them down the field and he justwalks up to morton and says take us home, son, take his home and soimportant, loved that story. He told me, he said that was like his favoritestory that he told me about. Your dad was like there he is like I'm nervous,you know, he's like this kicker and all I gotta do is kick the ball and he goes,I watched your dad just take him down the field and he comes right up to me.He goes, take us home. So and he's like all of a sudden there's even morepressure on me. He was I loved him. He was a finalist when my dad was for theHall of Fame and I was so happy that he got in the following year, so deserving.But he told me a little bit more r rated story. Yeah, well, he couldn'ttell, I told him, I said we have to keep it down martin a little bit. Uh itwas funny and but yes, but Kendra, I mean how do you, I remember when youwere, you know, just saying about how it makes you sad about your dad, whenpeople and I would be going to school on monday after a loss and I meanwanting to just cry, I would be, it was horrible. I mean, I really hated goingto school after the Eagles would lose,...

...which was a lot. So I I mean I probably,you know needed to repeat a couple grades because they want a school thatI missed would have been uh was definitely just off those things.People don't have any. It's like the same people that asked for tickets arethe same people that are like the Eagles suck or your dad sucks orthey're terrible. I mean it's just unreal. And I mean, so how okay, soobviously you grow up your, you know, your mom is there and your dad is there.What what kind of advice did your dad and your mom also give you to getthrough some hard times because regardless of what it is, kids gothrough some tough times. So like how would you then um uh advise otherparents about like, you know, telling their Children just, they can have toget through some rough days. It stopped. And that was the one thing about my dadis that was his motto in life. I mean he said I lived my life at third andlong my entire life, so he would get knocked down and you always get back upand you just can't complain and you just keep powering through. And so myparents divorced and I was really young um and my name is so similar to myfather, so was Kendra stabler and I came home. I uh, some boys had askedfor autographs, so I was visiting my dad, think he's with the oilers at thetime, bring home the oilers like autographed by by seven, give them tohim at school, I think I'm in sixth grade, seventh grade and the boat, oneof the boys stood up in front of the whole class and dad sucks and ripped itin half. And so I literally went home crying and I said, I'm changing my lastname. I don't, I don't want this last name anymore. And my mom's like, no,you're going to be really proud to have that last name so you need to justignore it rise above it. Um, and then I wish I did. So just watching my dad andall the obstacles he faced in his life. Yeah. Just you just never give up andyou just rise above. Always rise above. Always gonna be doesn't mean people outthere. Yeah. And that's what I like football too. Is that like it really islike life a game of inches, which is what I always tell my kids. And likethe thing about football, which I compared to life is that you get morechances to get another four chances and unless you really blow it in a 60minute game, you're probably going to get another four chances just in lifeunless you really blow it in life, you're gonna get chances to keep goinginto doing things, into reinventing and to being third and long and makingthings happen, You know? So football, to me really is like, you know, it'sjust such a great sport lessons. Absolutes 100%. So when you were, whatdid you, um, when you were in high school and things, uh, was your dadheavily involved in everything that you were doing? So my dad, I kind of grewup with my dad, um, he was a little bit of a party animal and busy and, but hewas an amazing dad and I can't say enough things about him, but um, hebecame super involved when he retired, so I was probably a junior in highschool and then he went into commentating, I traveled everywhere Igo to any engagement and he's speaking that, uh, games, um, he do tv shows orwhatever, so we spent a ton of time together after his career and, and healways had so much guilt. He'd always be like, I feel so bad for not beingaround as much as I should have and I'm like, you're fine dad. I mean, we havea great relationship and he really amazing relationship with my boys,which made me even happier. Um, yeah, so he was super involved and he wouldcome to Arizona, he ended up moving to Arizona where we live to be closer tome and my boys. Before then he would travel and come to Arizona at leastthree or four days or three or 4 times a year and he would go to theirelementary school and he was so cute, he would sit at the lunch table withall these little 1st and 2nd graders and he'd have his rings on and allthese kids are like big shiny rings and you take them off and the kids will bepassing this super bowl ring and his...

Alabama national championship ringaround and he'd go to the playground, throw the ball with him and super superinvolved. If there was an event or um a fundraiser, he was the first person togive or to be like a, he would go and EMC it and yeah, he was super greatthat way. Yeah, he had such talent on and off the field and I think that,that that showed and you know that was one of the reasons he went to Alabama,you didn't go to Alabama if you didn't have incredible talent, right? You know,you you had to be one of the best in the country. Um so you know it's kindof funny like my daughter has been in school and we don't get a chance to,she's so busy all the time, they don't get a chance to tell her. And she neverreally asked, did you ask your dad, like some of his stories that youcouldn't see on ESPN or you know the NFL, you know, because there are likestories that we have that because we're with people every day in the lockerroom and things just happen and there are incredible stories that happenedthat nobody would know about. He was an incredible storyteller and he loved toreminisce and he, he would remember like how many blades of grass were in acertain play like it was crazy his memory. Um It yeah it was it was prettyinteresting. He um he would I would always ask him would be laying aroundwatching tv and I said you know do you wish you would have played baseballbecause my dad was drafted by the Yankees and the Pirates and I can'tremember else but at a high school baseball was his first true love and toremain that way until he passed he loved baseball and so he said I do Ialways wonder what would have happened because you know Jackson did it. I meanhe could have tried it. So um I think things like that he would talkabout. I'm so sorry there's a bird just flewin my house. Sorry. No. Yeah that's good though that I think that's goodluck I think. Yeah. Yeah your dad wants to come in and you know. Right. Right.Well there is a thing with you know with the spirit world that they talk alot about birds that you know when you see a certain type of bird and thingslike that. That that that means there present with you. So he's hanging outwith us. Yeah he is. So what was that like? So you know he had a lot of um I think that he just had so manyfriends. It seemed like he was that type of guy because I've been in theNFL and you know I have a lot of friends but I've moved a lot of placesand you keep friends lose friends and you try and stay in contact with them.But it seems like you talked about before when when your dag on the Hallof Fame uh you know he passed before that, but there's so many people thatreached out to you, he just seemed like that guy, like everybody wanted to bearound him, He was that guy and that's when I was backstage at the Hall ofFame after the unveiling of the bust. Um firstly I had every single Hall ofFame player walking up to me and wasn't saying, you know what a great player hewas, it was his presence and the person he was off the field. And so that waswhen we were in the stands, when Brett Farve gave his speech that blew all ofour minds when he said he wanted to be my dad and and the impact that my dadhad on him. Um he was, he never met a stranger, he had so many friends andlike I said earlier, it didn't matter if you were an athlete that played withhim or if you were the guy sweeping the floors in the airport like he just hejust had he just had such magnetism and people loved being around him and hetreated everybody like they had known him forever. And that was another thinghe would remember people's names that like aunt mary's cousin that he neverhad met, but somebody got an autograph from him and he would remember that.And so yeah, he was truly special. Like...

...there's nobody like him. It's prettyamazing. Yeah. No I love that that you know um you know steve Young was likethat I met steve Young one time he met like yeah, he probably knew who I wasjust because we've played against each other. But my family, my kids, he hemet them one time maybe five years before he knew all their names andremember everyone so impressive. Do you do that? Maybe that's why you're sogood. Right. I'm the worst. I am absolutely worst. Yeah. So I, I did notget that trait from my dad. Yeah, that's a hard trade. Like I wish I hadthat trade. I didn't have a great coaches, wish I had that trade as well,but I didn't have it. Where did you play college? I went to the Universityof Tulsa. So I went from Pittsburgh to Oklahoma, which was a big life changefor me yet. Yeah, it was like the first time I really kind of understood what acowboy was when I went to Oakland was like the opposite for my dad. He wentfrom Alabama and you know, Letterman's jacket to Oakland and he had chops andhanging out with the Hells Angels. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure he found the good,good uh you know, like when I went with, when I played for Washington, my rookieyear, all the hogs that were still there, all the linemen, they took me tothis little bar hole in the wall bar that had, it was like the Hells Angelsand all, you know what I mean? Like they took me in there and I felt like,I don't know if I should be in here, but I'm with these guys. I don't okay,right? Like, I feel like your dad would have found that bar and uh, you know,because those places, you just feel like sometimes it's just you walk in,you're like, man, it just feels good to be in here. Absolutely. Um, anotherfunny story that my dad never told me that. So Freddie Biletnikoff and I werejust hanging out waiting for the Hall of Fame parade and I was like Freddie,did you really did you? My dad really smoke cigarettes on the sidelines andhe goes, oh I did, but your dad eat hot dogs? And I was like, ok, interesting.Um but he said, you know, they both went through quite a few marriages andso they were roommates and they lived together in Oakland and most of thoseguys had jobs in the off season. And so my dad and Freddie like struck up adeal with a car dealership In Oakland and I don't even know what the carswere, but my dad used to drive my mom nuts because she loved being in SanFrancisco in the 70s, but he would hightail it back to Alabama as soon asthe season was over, he was just a hometown guy and loved mama, so hewould take these cars that and drive from California and Alabama, You're notreally not supposed to put putting a bunch of miles on these cars,dealership, owner gave them to use and Freddie is smoking his three packs aday inside the car. So it came time to turn in the cars and get new ones. So,owner calls up friday and he was like, hey, I can't get ahold of snake, I needto get the car back, I need to get your car back. Um, he's like, well, he's inAlabama and he's like, what, what's he doing in Alabama with my car, you know,looking out and then Freddy turns his, it smells like an ashtray. They bothget just reamed when they walk into this dealership and so they look ateach other like, do we get another car? And they're like, no, get out of here.So they, next block struck up another deal and drove away in their cars. Goodstories like that. That's awesome. Those are those are those are greatstories, you know, and I'm sure he has a story after story with all those guyshe played with on the Raiders. So many great stories and they all remained soclose. Like that was really so special. That team that 70 Raiders, they, yeah,they're all still so close. Um you know, art show I had dinner with shortlyafter my dad passed and he said, uh you know, we would do anything. We would,if your dad said to jump off a cliff would jump off with like he was the guyand he said, uh you know as they went...

...to a bar after every game and theywalked through a bar and a racial slur was thrown at art and Arts obviously alot bigger than my dad. But my dad heard it and art is really classy manand he kind of shrugged it off, walked past the man and my dad is not like afighter but walked up to the guy and just knocked him out. He was thatprotective of his, his friends and his teammates. And um, he was like, I'llnever forget that. And you know, they scrapped and then left the bar. But um,they all, yeah, they all were so close Willie Brown and Phil billy pianoFreddy and they always show up to each other's charity events and just sosupportive and they still like that today. I feel like when you are on ateam that goes to the Super Bowl and you've had multiple playoff experiences,it's not because there's like just incredible talent on the team. It'sbecause that there's just such a connection between all the guys and youhear that story, a lot about people that have played on super bowlstogether that they have this incredible connection and because I think it justgets them through those moments that are we going to win? Are we going tolose? And that, that, that trust in each other just pushes them over thetop? Yeah, it's really special. I remember when Jack Tatum had just losthis leg to diabetes and I think it was six months later he shows up my dad'sgolf tournament Alabama. My dad, like marty said earlier, he used to do acelebrity golf tournament every year and raise money. He put the first modelwith Donald House in mobile Alabama. And so, and then he would do a lot forthe Alabama Children's hospitals. But you know, Jack Tatum shows up inAlabama with, you know, half his leg missing and, but that's, you know,that's what they did for each other, you know, really amazing. Uh, David hum,who is my dad's back up, wrote me at least at least every week,he would send me letters and he would call me um just checking in on me andhe just said, you know, how much my dad meant to him and he goes, he woulddrive me nuts because, you know, we would be down and he had blood comingout of his ear and his nose. And so I put the clipboard down thinking, here'smy chance, I'm gonna go in and win the game. And your dad would look at me andsay, you're not going in and go in there and he'd win the game, you know,he was like, but yeah, just really, really special guys are like a bunch ofuncles. Yeah, I can imagine that's what, you know, but also that's what's sogreat and gus and I spoke about this for a few minutes that your dad'sfriends are now your friends and that is a great gift. Like a lot of mygrandfather and my mom's friends and they have become my friends and like,I'm so grateful for that. Obviously they loved your dad and they want tolook after you like you were just saying. And that was like a perfectexample of what I was asking about, how many of you know, of your dad's friendsare now the Kendra, you know the Kendra friends and many and it's so manythings to be able to to share that with your own Children. Oh, yeah, yeah. Andthey all, you know, they send emails and texts and but they always ask aboutthe grand sneaks and they, my boys went back to the last home Raiders gamebefore they went to Vegas and um and all the guys were there and they tooksuch good care of the boys. And it is, it's it's so special. It's so nice thatyou have those guys in your in your back pocket. Yeah. And I've talked toguys who played for the Raiders. I never got to play for the Raiders, butum, it's just such a family organization. Absolutely. The Davisfamily has done an incredible job keeping it that way. Yeah, and it'sbeen amazing you hear these stories from all I've been reviewed guys thathave played for the Raiders and, and it's just, they talk about How thathappens no matter if you were there one...

...week or you know, 20 years, they treatyou the same. You get, you get things in the mail from them, they make you apart of it. And I can say that not every team does that and yeah, andthere are some teams that are really good about it and sometimes it just, itdoesn't matter. Yeah, definitely. They definitely, yeah, they, they make surethat everybody stays really close it and then I in that I've become so closewith most of the kids and so like Willie Brown and I's daughter, umAntoinette and then fills daughter Andrea, we're all planning to do a bigreunion when we can go to a Raiders game in Vegas and um, yeah, it's super fun. Like it'sdefinitely, it's a whole another extension of family. Yeah. That'samazing. Also Kendra, that you mentioned that people don't realizethat in the seventies professional athletes, they had two jobs. Three.Like, I mean, I know my grandfather would say like, you know that that stanWalters who was the center for the Eagles. He was an accountant during theoff season. He was going to retire. And my grandfather, he's like, Leonard, I'mgoing to retire. I just got your accounting all the time. You make like50 grand a year. He's like, all right, I'll triple that. You're not you can'tretire from being a center. We need you people had more than what you know,they were they were car dealers or whatever. We're not just living offtheir big fancy NFL salaries which now they might be able to go back then.They all had two or three jobs always work. It was for the love of the game.Yeah. Played because they loved that game, definitely. Yeah, they definitelydid. So, I mean, I can't imagine a professional football player not beinglike, all right season's over. We're going to go all right, go Yeah, wellyeah, you got to do that. And you know the way that guys were hit and you know,they talk about how the game has changed. 12 changed for a lot ofreasons, like the way you just talked about your dad be bleeding and his noseis bleeding. Like today, they probably wouldn't let you come back. Like, youknow, there's just there's just different, it's a different attitudeand mentality in the NFL today. Yeah, my dad played in the same shoulder pads,his entire career in the NFL and I have them in my possession and you shouldsee these things that they came from a kicker that was leaving. And my dadshows up in Oakland, he was like, oh, I gotta get my own paths. And he was like,here you can use these, I'm leaving. And they were like the teeniestfinished, no protection. And my dad was when he was like, OK. And he justplayed in that then played in the same helmet. So I haven't had that helmet aswell. And it's got, you can see a little bit of oilers blue, you can seesome Saints colours in there. It's like, it's so, it's like a little tiny strapof leather in there and it's just crazy. I'm like, you played 15 years in thatstuff. Yeah. Your your dad was definitely a very tough hey everyone uhwe are talking with Kendra Sailor Boys and we're here with Marnie and she haswritten many books and we are going to take a quick break. We're gonna comeback and find out what's going on now in Kendra's life and talk to marty alittle bit more. So, uh, we're gonna take a quick break at don't forget togo to manscaped dot com and check us out. Yeah. Mhm. Hey, head off with us listeners.Manscaped. Well, they sent me uh they hooked me up with a bunch of tools andformulations for their package three point oh kit. Uh so, you know, I wantto show you guys what's in the perfect package, right? We all think we got aperfect package, but they sent me the...

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...was so great. Yeah, you had toexperience it because he would have brought his own charm and style andeverything to that event. Did a great job carrying his legacy and you do thatwith all of the things that you're involved in between the Foundation andthe animal rescues that you do in all these amazing things. Ronald McdonaldHouse. I know that there's in addition to your dad being a huge supporter inAlabama, uh, you have a beautiful room at the house Arizona that I know you'revery proud of and you can tell everybody that your books are sittingin. Yeah, really cool. They have a program, adopt a room and so we adopteda room and his name and so many people came together to make it super crazy.Cool. It's kind of half Alabama, half Raiders. Um, lot of hounds tooth, butthere's pictures of him all over this room, it's called the ken stabler roomand so there's people staying in there and I stay in touch with them and theysaid, you know, everyone's favorite room, like so many people have, hassaid what a great place it is and it was such a labor of love, it was sogreat to do and, and we put all of Marnie's books on a bookshelf in therefor the kids and yeah, it was super great. I would love to do one in everyhouse. It would be so great. Yeah, that, that would be great. I think it's, it'samazing what you to do for that and how much support that you give the RonaldMcdonald house because it is hard for so many families out there, especiallyafter 2020. I mean it's been difficult for so many people and I think that uhit's amazing that, you know, you talk about and you got kind of cheerfulabout your dad, but I wonder if he would have gotten tearful up there,right? Because he was such a tough guy. And like for me, emotionally, I cry allthe time. Like it's just like I coached kids in high school when they weregraduate and I'm like, you know, there's this kid Jack who I was reallyclose to. He didn't play a lot, but he was just he just loved the game and he,you know, we had a connection and when he was leaving, he said this nicespeech about me and I'm like, I'm emotional, right? And that's kind ofhow it goes. But but I was wondering about your dad, like it would have been,you know, Yeah, he was so tough, so private. He I think I've only seen himcry once in my whole life and that was at my wedding right before he was aboutto walk me down the aisle and he looked at me and he had a little tear and Iwas like that are you crying? He's like no, you know what I mean? Like wipedand then we walked down the aisle. Um So yeah, I don't think he would havebeen um emotional, but I think he would have given the most epic speech. Likeit would have been it would have the the house would have come down on that.It would have been pretty cool. Who would have been his idol? Does he evertell you who his fate like growing up, who was his favorite athlete? Like whodid he love watching? So he loved, Gosh there was so many. He was such a hugebaseball guy, huge baseball. Um, but he was a bigger, um, boxing fan. Really.Yeah, he loved Ali, um, huge sugar ray. He just, yeah, he loved boxing, lovedNascar. Um, but we looked up to, um, was the most,was his coaches. Uh, coach Bryant really shaped him and molded him. Hedescribed him as like the grandfather, you never wanted to disappoint bumphillips. He, um, the same. And then he described Coach Madden as like yourbuddy, your best friend and that's what they're there. They were so close coachcalled me after my dad and I think he was crying harder than I was and uh,they had such a special, special relationship. It was really cool. Andthe fact that Coach Madden let my dad calls his own plays and, and just letthose guys be them and, and you didn't...

...want to disappoint them and so thatthey did, that they performed because they didn't want to disappoint. So idlewise. I mean, I think it's definitely his coaches. Yeah, that's awesome. That.Well, I mean they play such a big role in your life. I mean most of usremember our first coach that we've ever had because you know, when you'reyoung, you're so impressionable and that's why I went like for me, I'mtrying to create the certified coaching program so that, that coaches have tounderstand that what you do when we're young, when people are young boys andgirls can change the way they see sports. So I didn't know you were doingthat. That is so important because I just know some of the coaches that myboys had growing up and and how irritated my dad would be at somethings and then knowing he said, you know, that that's a great coach rightthere and so that is so important. His high school coach and he stayed closewith recently passed away coach. Ivan jones um, was a huge, huge part of hislife and kept him out of trouble because my dad was quite the rebel gotkicked off. Yes, every team he was on, I think rebels and understand that hepushed the envelope a little bit. So yeah, that those guys really kept mydad going, you know, and it's funny like it justmakes me think of like these movies back in, you know, like he, he couldhave been this like iconic movie star. I feel like if he didn't play footballlike one of those guys that, that there was such a love hate relationship likeyou talk about like he's such a rebel but everybody loved them totally,totally. There's some people that are trying to get a a film done on himbecause his life was I mean just it's so it's such an interesting story andhe was so iconic and and and just and so real at the same time he facedchallenges that everybody else does and how he got through them and thepartying, the du es the divorces, but you know the ups and downs of footballand just you know, he came from nothing and an educated family and just yeahsuper, super interesting. Well because he has all those things that likeeverybody can relate to, it's like people can relate to being you know towanting to be the big star but that all of that stuff that goes along with itwhether it's the lifestyle, the playboy lifestyle, the wayne, the men wanted tobe the guy that women wanted to be with him. I mean, anyway, I mean, I knowthat, that like all of those things and they're so interesting because it'saspirational, but yeah, Oh no, wait. That guys like me, he's just like me,he can throw a football better than anybody else like ever. So that's like,makes it so interesting as a man or as a person because there is that likerelatable factor, which is what we want in all of our heroes. I mean, theyalways say you don't meet your heroes, Like meeting your dad would not be adisappointment for 99.9% of the people meeting, ken, stabler would be like, ohmy gosh, it's even better than I thought. That's what most people tellme. There's a, like a commemorative page. It's on facebook, I think it haslike five or 6000, but every day they're posting and they still, theyhave that same theme that same like when I met him, um and how, how he madethem feel and or when you were watching him, you knew the game was never overthat stuff like Yeah. You know, it's funny Kendra I try to think of him like,in today's sense, right? With social media and all the ways. Well, I'm, butwhat I'm saying is like, we still knew a lot about him. People still knew alot about him. Even without social media, like, he was just that figurethat people talked about, they wanted to know about. And I couldn't imaginelike his life like now with like, Tic Tac and everything, like how would havebeen like, he would have just, he would...

...have been, he would have had thegreatest N. F. T. Ever. Like, like ken Stadler's N. F. T. You know what I mean?Just it would have just been one of these amazing pictures that millions ofpeople would want to own. Like, his social media would have been off thecharts. You would have been crazy. He got really into it too. He had afacebook and he had a twitter and I kept up with them for a little bit andthen we kind of just some other guys like are handling it now, but he lovedit. He's like, okay, let's post today or if somebody passed away or if myboys had a good game, but he was like super into it. So he would have, yeah,he would have been all over it. He would have done a good job with it. Oh,I know. He would have, you know, I could have just imagined some of hislike little post like facebook live like what we're going to see fromCandide. You would have been as his daughter. Like I don't want to see anyof that. No, that's why as a daughter, I'm really glad you didn't have socialmedia, but it would have been cool. You just have to rely on fred Biletnikoffstories and some other people so weird Anderson more. Yeah, they've all gotsuch good stories. So marty was telling me about you guys have established afoundation in your dad's name. So my dad always had one. Um he always sophilanthropic his entire life. I mean even with the Raiders, he would go tothe Oakland Children's Hospital and visit the kids. So that was superimportant to him to always give back and he always raised me to do the same.And so my dad's girlfriend, partner like last 16 years of his life, truelove of his life, kim, They really did quite a lot of work the last 10, 15years of his life. And so she and I continued on because we knew he wouldwant to, that's you. Um he was focused on Ronald Mcdonald House and Children'scharities and we, after the cT diagnosis, we changed our focus tosports related head trauma and just bringing awareness to that, trying tomake the game safer for the younger boys um and girls. Um so we are we'restill active with that and obviously the last year and a half, we haven'tdone much, but we will start ramping up again. Um Yeah, I will continue as longas I can because it was so important to him. Yeah, it was. And and you also have isit Exo Exo Foundation? Yeah, so that's it. The Exo exo, stabler foundation washis which is still his but we continue with that. Okay, that's that's thething when I was asking marty if there were two different or if they were thesame. Yeah, it's always been that one and that's always been what he has hashad and I had the pleasure to meet kim and uh she really is, I could see whyyour dad would have wanted her as his last, you know as his last hurrah. Yeah,she was incredible. She's an incredible, yeah, I mean we are very close butshe's an incredible woman, she's in Mississippi try to see each other a lotmore after this crazy year. But yeah, she's she kept him going, she kept himworking, you know my dad was just like I don't want and she's like no you needto get out there and so she she makes stuff happen, She's a go getter. Yeah,that's awesome. And that's another great gift that your dad gave you ishaving a relationship with the love of his life. Those are things that, I meanbringing in all these great adult football players and men into your lifeis terrific, but also handing his daughter a nice lady that she has, youknow, cherish moments to be like, oh dad, you remember then when he did thatand and really make you know, let you know that you know your importance inhis life. Those are things that really, truly I think are great gifts that yourdad present. She was definitely like nervous. I mean that would be reallyhard. And so um...

I've been around a lot of girlfriendsand wives of my dad. Um and she and I just, and I hit it off right away and Iknew what a true gem. She was like right from the get go. My boys love her.My husband loves her. She'll be part of our family forever. She has All right.So what about all the memorable Candra? Because we got a little tease of it. Sopeople always ask me that like you have a lot of memorabilia and like not havelike a sweatshirt that my granny or when he gave me a bike ride. Same. Imean, my boys have a lot. So we have the Hitchcock belt. Um which my dad wasthe last recipient of the Hitchcock belt. I'm not sure if you are theHickok Hickok belt. Hickok said that wrong. Um goes to the athlete of theyear. We have that. Um Then there's been so Lombardi trophy. Um He left myboys the Super Bowl ring in the national championship for Alabama. Um acouple jerseys but that's about it. Mostly just like family photos and umjust everyday stuff that doesn't have to do with football. So do your areyour sons playing football? They played all through high school. They playedyoung. Um And then stopped. My dad just I wasn't really into them playing hewas really worried about them I think because he knew there was so much goingon that he hid from us now knowing what was going on. He really worried aboutthem. So I think they also they lived with him for a year when he moved toArizona. They aren't driving so we thought it would be really a greatopportunity. He got a house right near their high school and he would drivethem to five a.m. Practices and he would make them smoothies and do theirlaundry and like have their socks full. That he was a neat freak completely. O.C. D. Everything was perfect. He would like to be in a hotel. He would makethe bed before I even put a foot out of the bed like crazy clean guy. So heplayed mr mom to my boys. Um And and because of that so I remember saying tomy husband a few times we would go to Alabama games or raider games and maybetelling, he always telling stories and he started repeating his stories quitea bit. And I turned my benefits from the west coast and said he goes that'sa southern thing and I go no it's not a southern thing that kind of justbrushed it off and that was around probably Maybe 2010. Yeah and then ummy boys were like you know what papa is becoming a really bad driver becausethey were driving and I was like well he's stopping at green lights he'sgoing at red lights. He is getting confused at stop signs. And so we'relike and I called kim and I'm like there's there's something going on andI didn't know at the time but my dad was battling prostate cancer and hidingit. He didn't he never wanted anybody to worry about him. That was one thingthat Coach Madden told us is my dad would wait till everybody left to gettreated by the trainer. He just he didn't want his teammates to see himgetting treated. He just was he just didn't want anybody to worry. He didn'twant anybody to fuss or. So it didn't surprise me that he hid that. But thenwhen the C. T. Started to get pretty bad is when the colon cancer hit. Andso unfortunately or fortunately the cancer took him before c to eat it. Butit was getting progressively worse. He wasn't sitting in a closed dark roomand depressed but the tinnitus was so bad you know he would grind his teethfrom the headaches that were so severe that he broke a bridge in his mouth.And uh and it was and he was just about to get his knees done. He was bone onbone. So I mean like when you said he's tough he I don't know a tougher man.Yeah and so um back to the boys yeah I...

...think when they saw that and they werelike you know what so they're staying um one wants to be a coach and he'scoaching at a high school now and he is kind of looking into scouting and so umthey just graduated today so we'll see what happens. And then my other songraduated in the business school of business law degree. So they love thesport, but they're both find that it ended when it did right. Yeah, I thinkmy sons in the same way like they played, my son Gunnar had a, they bothhad a couple concussions and you know, my son Gunnar went on and played a fewyears in college and just said dad, it's too much. I just rather go toschool and be a kid. I'm like, hey, I get it, it's a lot of work, it's noteasy, you know, and my son game and we played through high school. So it is,it is, it is hard and you have to have a drive for it and you know, and thenwhen you do see people that have been injured or hurt from it, it is it makesit tougher. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One of my boys had a pretty bad concussion. He isstill not the same, it's gotten a lot better but you know that's been fiveyears and so yeah, I think that really kind of sealed the deal too. Yeah, thatmakes it tough, that makes it love it. We still watch it, we want, you know,we're still big, big, big football, you um and your family and you know, yourdad just created such a legacy at the Raiders at Alabama everywhere he's been.I mean yeah, there are things that your dad has done in his life that heprobably, you know like you said he was a rebel but from the standpoint of whohe was on the field and the people in the locker room and how people lovedhim, you know that he was just a shining light when he walked in. Sothank you so much for sharing his story with us today because I, I always lovedyour father. I mean I played a long time, played the same position and it'sjust one of those guys that they ask you why, you know, you can be so toughand get up. It's because of people like your dad just did it before us and youwant to be like that. That's really cool. Thank you, definitely. You knowKendra, because so many people, I think even if they're not football fans,here's what the thing about your dad, they might not have ever watchedfootball, but you know what, you know who they will say is your favoriteplayer can, right? So raider, like no idea, but that's like the kind oflegend and legacy that your dad created, which is so interesting and or alsopeople that might not even like the Raiders were just like the stock andthe kind of guy that he was that you know that seventies rock and roll dudewho could just like your, take my hot dog, I got this or whatever my here islike oh my hot dog, I got it. Yeah, that was a common theme. Yeah. I meanall the players that I've talked to and coach Madden, but they just like yourdad was just nothing ruffled his feathers. Like you just was so cool allthe time where like do you ever just get freaked out? Like what is going on?They would like shake him. He was, he was such a cool cat and I still see ontwitter um hate the Raiders but love the snake. Hate the Raiders, but lovethe snake. Yeah, you see that a lot, definitely. He always could grow agreat moustache. A lot of guys can, can everyone, You can always just go. Ithink all the cool guys had awesome moustache is that's for sure tying foryour manscaped promo. Yeah, he could have definitely use the man scape. Youdefinitely loved it. All right. Hey Kendrick. For fans, everybody listenshow they can find you and how they can check you guys out. I think it's kenstabler dot com backslash. Exo exo dash state dash foundation. So tell them howthey can follow you may be uh send you a great note about your dad, Kendrastabler. I think I'm on twitter Kendra...

...12, instagram, um great number. Ididn't write my favorite number. Um, And then my boys were 12 and 16 becausehe was 16 with the Saints. Um, and everybody is always like, why do youtake 16? And of course that's my dad, somebody had 12, wasn't even like amain player and he was like, I always do 16 and it was also George Blanda,who was another, like you said, who was his idol, he really looked up to GeorgeBlanda. Um so yeah, twitter, um, Kendra stabler and then the Foundation has uman instagram and facebook and twitter and it's the exo, Exo stablerfoundation, awesome, awesome marty let everybody know how they can find youand share what you're doing, They can find, thank you, they can find me onInstagram. I'm Marnie Schneider one because they're already apparentlymarty Snider, so I have your number one, I'm on twitter as well, MarnieSchneider, just take the E out and on facebook, just Marnie Schneider or theycan find me through you or Kendra, because you guys are definitely a veryfor each other. Well, yes, you can also find you guys sometimes at the RonaldMcdonald house and you can check out Marnie's great books for everyoneReally. You want to go to a town and find out where to go when you get offthe plane, Read the book, right, Thank you guys for all ages. Not justkids, but football fumbled the dog. Game day in the USa. So we're on numbereight. Right now on game day in Tampa, we have philadelphia, Atlanta, Chicago,Green Day, Dallas Pittsburgh and the Carolinas. Tampa bay is coming up andyou need to do Arizona so you can come hang out with me. No, no. Yeah. Right.Well, Kendra, we're gonna work on it together for sure. Like what? Yeah. Andthen you guys will have to go to the Raiders came together in Vegas and dothat one like that. Yeah. That want to be more like adult book, I think Marnieand Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That might be a dangerous book. Yeah, exactly. I don'tknow. You'd have to talk to my wife. Maybe you should just take you. Exactly.Exactly. Annie, Annie would love it. But yeah, we'll drag her around around.I think I'm just there to drive the car. That'sall. Yeah, Yeah. Just a driver. So, Marnie Kendra, thank you so much forjoining me on huddle up with Gus. I really appreciate your time today.Thank you. My pleasure. You. Hey, everyone thanks for joining me again onhuddle up with gusts. You can check us out and huddle up with gusts dot com.And I want to thank 16 31 Digital News. Check out us at their studio on ontheir website, 16 31 digital news dot com. And we want to thank Sounder FM.And we also want to appreciate Manscaped dot com for, for them and youknow, working with us and becoming one of our partners, we really appreciateManscaped dot com. Check them out at Manscaped dot com and put in my codeGus Frerotte all caps, get 20% off and free shipping. Thank you again for agreat show. We appreciate Kendra, we appreciate Marnie, check them out attheir instagram and uh and everything else like twitter linkedin. I'm surethey're everywhere like everyone else's. But thanks for joining us again. Have agreat day, everyone and that's a wrap sports fan. Thanksfor joining in the fun at the 16 31 digital studios for another actuallyhuddle up with Gus featuring 15 year NFL quarterback Aspirin, huddle up withGus is proudly produced by 16 31 digital media and is available on applemusic.

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