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Julia Landauer

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Julia Landauer is a NASCAR driver and 2-time champion from New York City. Since making history as the first and youngest female champion in the Skip Barber Racing Series at age 14, Julia has amassed dozens of wins in many different racing series. After becoming the first woman to win a NASCAR Track Championship at Motor Mile Speedway in her division in 2015, Julia graduated to the televised NASCAR K&N Pro Series West in 2016. She became the first woman to lead a lap in the Canadian NASCAR Pinty’s Series, and currently races in the NASCAR Euro Series. In 2017, Julia was selected as an honoree for the Forbes 30 Under 30 list in the sports category. Julia was also the only female member of the highly selective NASCAR Next class of 2016-2017. She is also part of the Global Shapers community, born out of the World Economic Forum. Julia graduated from Stanford University in 2014, earning a Bachelor of Science degree in Science, Technology, and Society. Julia has since purposefully built her brand where technology, community and racing intersect and fuse. During college Julia was a contestant on season 26 of CBS’ reality TV show SURVIVOR. It was also in college that Julia started her motivational speaking career with a TEDx talk and she is now a sought-after speaker for corporations, universities, and conferences, including Fortune’s Most Powerful Women. Julia also served as an external advisor to Hyundai Motor Corporation’s Center for Robotic-Augmented Design in Living Experience. As she climbs the NASCAR ladder Julia uses her racing platform to continue advocating for STEM education and women’s empowerment. She supports The One Love Foundation, which educates about healthy vs. unhealthy relationships, as well as The TechForce Foundation, which helps students find technical vocations. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to our podcast huddle up withGus, where we talk to guess about how sports help shape their life. I'm yourhouse, former NFL, quarterback, Gusfrad and I'm joined by my longtime friendand coast, Dave Hager. We are a RADIOCOM original podcast and you canfind USS on the new RADIOCOM, APP or anywhere. You listen to your favoritepodcast. Now, let's get in the huddle all right! Thank you. Everyone forjoynows Hudd up with Guss, where we talked our guess about how sports shapetheir life and I'm here with my cos, Dave hello and you know Dave. We gotanother great guess on today, so why don't we bring joy in right now and wecan talk to a little bit about how sports his influenced her life. So it'sJulia thanks for joining us in the huddle on Huddleoff with Gus, and weappreciate you coming on. Oh thank you for having me I'm happy to be here so where we always start and what wewant to ask you is what was that moment in your life for a sport, your spportthat you love came into play? What was that? Firsttime, T at that you fell in love with it yeah, so I'm a raisecar driver, butI started in go carts and it was originally an activity that my parentswanted us to do as a family for me ND my sister and brother, and I loved itright away. But the moment where I realized I wanted to pursue it. Fulltime was sometime around age like eleven or twelve, when I was in middleschool, which is a really miserable time for a lot of people, and I justrealized that I was always most proud of myself at the race track like eventhough we had to wake up early and it was really hard work and a lot of times.The racing didn't go. The way we wanted it to. I was always happier to be there.I wanted to be there instead of school and when I realized that that was justwhere I felt the most accomplished and most proud, I laned that's what Ireally wanted to pursue. How does that work now that, like gocart racing at at that age, because,like we're used to, like you, know little league or soccer and stuff likethat, so tell us like how t at how that came about like what a typical likerace day was like when you're ten years old, yeah. So with GOCAR racing. It'snot quite like what you see at the rental cart places around the country,but these are very much performance, built racing, goat carts. There aredifferent manufacturers or specific engine builders, and you you know youyour family. They purchase all the equipment. My parents and one externalmechanic coach worked on the go carts and it's really, you know, arrive onSaturday or Sunday, depending on when the racing is, and this was at aracetrack in somewhere, upstate New York D. it's the same, go car trackthat Marco undreddy raised at from the famous ondretdy family and we would gothere and we have practice for several sessions. And it's like five to tenminutes. Where you go out practice, you make some changes to the GOCART. We goqualify, which is where you go as fast as you can for a few laps to set thestarting order for a race, and then we have our races and they probably wereabout ten or fifteen minute races. But we just do that every weekend and therewas one year wher. I think we raised twenty seven weekends out of the yearas a family. So it's a lot of a similar thing: Thof the whole family sleps towhereever. The races are, and there was local gocart racing and then thitsnational races where there were five a year and we traveld to WisconsinIndiana Texas Florida all over to go racing. So did you grow up in Manhattan?Is that where you grew up so you grew up in Manhattan and got into go cartracing? That's IT'S PRETTY! MAKL! I, where the heck did you put the gocartsyeah sort te go cards at the race track, butthen my parents have a place in the woods of New Jersey and my dad's alwaysworked in New Jersey. So we kin of split some time between NewYork and between the woods and but yeah. We commuted it was a good. You know twohours outside of the city to get to the racetrack and- and it was really special, though itwas really cool to be able to get out and and just dedicate so much time andeffort to something that involves so many people is very communal sport. Sowhat did your friends say when you would go back home and all yourgirlfriends or and friends when you tell that I'm racing go carts, becausethat's probably something that you know, maybe is they go to the Jersey shorethey're going to see, go cart, racing down there like the ones you rent youknow, but what was that like? How did they take that? And what did youexplain to them? What you were doing yeah? So I remember when I started S. Ithink I started racing when I was in third or fourth grade, and it was very weird like they had no ideawhat it was and everyone's so young you just like okay cool go. Do that andthen, as I got older, there was definitely the interesting balance ofmissing some of my friends, things or birthdays, or you know, parties thatthey had or embalancing. That was racing, but Ithink they always got it. They just accepted that this was something that Idid and some people understood racing some people like watching things likeformula waneer. Even that's car. There are a lot of NASCAR FANS in New York.I've learned, they're, just more positive, maybe but but kno. I think people thought it wascool and it's very different. So I think a lot of people also just had ahard time understanding exactly what...

...goes into it, but they knew that Iexercised every day and then I went running every day or every other dayand traveled quite a bit, so they knew it was intensive, but I think somepeople definitely had a hard time really grasping what all it was. Didyou have a driver that you particularly followed at a young age yeah? So I grewup watching Formula One, and so I was big, Michael Shoemocker and but thenkind of when I was fifteen. Sixteen, we started switching over to more ovalracing that parcyle and when I started watching more NASCAR became a big mark.Martin Pan, a big Carl Edwards Fan and I've actually been able to speak withhim on the phone which has been so cool to be able to talk with one of yourKros and he's just like how you see him on TV, so yeah there're definitely somesome heroes in the sport. So when you start out and go cart racing your tento fifteen minute races, what are you the length of your races? Now? Oh Yeah,now the races are like two hours this year. I was racing part time in theCANADIAN NASCAR series and they're a lot. It's a especially in the heat ofthe summer. Like a lot of people, don't realize it can be a hundred and thirtydegrees in the car because a closed cockpit and the motors right up frontand it just gets really hot and you're in full fire resisting gear helmet.Everything, so I think when I try to explain what it's like: it's like, rakebeing at a hundred percent physical and mental capacity for hours on end inAsana with people who want to pass you and are trying to move you out of theway- and maybe your caris not perfect. So you have to adjust your driving tofigure out how to make it better and it's not at all like driving on thehighway, and I think that's something that makes racing a little bit toughfor some people to really appreciate, because most people grow up playingbasketball or baseball, and I have some idea of the sports they're watching.But not everyone goes racing right and so the closest thing you can Equadeidto is your every day driving and it's just so different than that. Obviously,but yeah, it's really tough, it's physically exhausting. So it seems likefrom what I know and friends that I've had that love the sport when you'reyoung, your parents have to do a lot of work for you. You know because they'retrout, you' E, like you, said, you're traveling, they're halling, maybe yourvehicle around, for you they're doing a lot of work repairs. So talk a little bit about your parents,involvement in your life yeah and there's the whole financial componenttoo. PRACING is a pick place board, it's very expensive and I don't. Idon't think I would have been able to do it without my family and partially,because it was my parents idea to getnst into go carting. So I was verylucky that this thing I loved and was good- that kind of fell in my lap, but theyre involvedment I mean theywould always try to figure out. Know mechanically on the group. Go Cartswhat needed to happen and then also from a mental point. They had to be ourcoaches and figure out. Okay, if we're putting around and not doing well onerace weekend. Why is that? How do we prevent that? And I now tell a lot ofthese stories through motivational talks that I give because my parentshad a fairly aggressive involves parenting. socitical effectlyappreciate now is a little rough in the moment, but no I mean hey, they werededicating all of their weekends, so much time, energy and money to helpingus go fast and to do the things that that we loved and it's incrediblecommitment, so I'm kind of mix us to whether or not I want to get my futurekids injury. Just so intensive, but I mean I'm very grateful. So did you havelike a headset on when you were even young and your dad was iting there likehey, put the petal the MITTL? Let's go luckly, it was only after the fact ikon the just benthe one Wensin go carts, but once I started in cars yeah we hadradio communications and so getting feedback was a huge help for a lote ofit. My Dad only gets on the radio every so often and what's interesting is thatnow he doesn't like to get on the radio like now when he comes to my races andchase more. He my mom, take more of a you know, spectator angle, to the sportnow, but they don't like getting on the radio which I find fascinating becausethey were so involved for so long and now they just want to see me drive.They don't really want to hear the behind the scene stuff. So it's atransition, you, you must have been a successful K, go car racer at a youknow, early teens. What's the next step like? How did you move into the kind ofwhat, where you're getting to know yeah? So there are a lot of different steps.You can take and really my dad and I would read racing magazines, and we sawthat a guy who now is a friend of mine who raises in sports cars. He got intosomething called the skip, Carova racing series, which is arrive anddrive more gentleman. We racsaying, like the series, provides the cars, buthe got into that series when he was twelve and so we're reading this andit's like oh well, this is fun, let's go car racing. So when I was thirteen,we made the jump into cars and I ended up winning that championship at age.Fourteen and then just kept crinding the ranks and there was a bit of an agerestriction. So that was limited in which series I could go into and then,when I was sixteen, I started transitioning more to ovalracing and the NASCAR style racing, and it was really because someone I hadbraced go carts against. All of a...

...sudden was kicking. My ass in the roadcourse racing in those kip barber cars and we were always pretty equal. So Iwas like. Why is he suddenly so much better than me and he had started doingsome oval racing and it really helped his car control his ability to and O beright on that ragged edge without going too far, and so originally I thought.Okay, let me just improve my skills and let me just go practice that and bringit back to road course racing. But after I did a few races, I loved theracing on ovals. It was so much fun your side by side for lapse on, and itwas a really different type of racing, different style. The way you pass isreally different, and I decided that I had a lot of funwith that and I want to pursue that. So just do a lot of homework figured outwhich teams we had to try to talk with and then lent fast and turned left Welday. Yourgirls are at the poy. Your one daughter just got a license. Yes and now livewill be getting her license soon. She was driving a car and like, and she trid o had to wait like sheshe's like okay, I gotta get my license Al Its is s probably as so boring Tor.Some ofthy kids are probably so excited. Were you excited? How was that process?For you still? I was still excited because when I was super nervous likebecause in racing I don't have to park, I don't have to back up like I have aspoughter who tells me where to go and everything I don't take responsibilityfor that, but I was really excited to get mylicense. I had my racing license at thirteen and in New York City. Youcan't get your license. T you're, eighteen, let'sever, said and stuffwhich I just really didn't want to do, and so I was very excited. But then therewas all this pressure for my friends like O. Are you going to failure?Failure, ROD, Test Aand? There was a lot of cresture. Ididn't feel I got it on the first try, but I don't know Kay turns areinteresting. You know right you're just used to just going straight and in TeCircle and then all of a sudden you got a pack up and parallel park. Theparallel parking was the biggest obstacle and we faced. I was I was herteacher, but then we ended up going to school to because I'm terrible sheactually is better than me now. cellel parking Houd, she just zone you outwhen you were trying to teach her. I believ yes, is as pecifically. Shewould. I didn't do anything with my kids. I said here go to school becauseI knew I was like my dad like one wrong move and I'm all over them and theywould just give Er. So I parale, marking New York probably was pretty,is pretty difficult. Sorry, what parillel parking in NewYork is pretty prettyobl. I mean I've, never really driven a whole lot in NewYork cause. I got my licence at eighteen and then I left and Iwenttocafornia and then moved to North Carolina. So I really haven't done aton of driving in New York, but Hallo parking's hard. The other thing isbecause I didn't grow up in the suburbs, like parking. Lots like at grocerystores and like in malls were we're stressful for me at first because, likethere'R, a lot of people driving not everyone's paying attention to wherethey're going and they got a practice and then you get more comfortable withit. I hate people to drive fast and parking lats. It's the I'm, the guythat, like cuts like, I don't go down the normal roads. If there's no cars, Igo through all th spots. justy want to yeah. I Proba would hate that. I'm nota fan of that, but so you go to tell us about the highschool you go to, because I think it's a college, Prep School and I'm notquite sure as it's storvessn is ha how you sai stivus an Stiveson O telno.Don't worry it's a tough one yeah! So it was. I went to. I went to privateschool through Eighth Rade and then I switched over to the public schoolsystem and New York City has a handful of specialized public high school. Soit's you have to test to get into them, but they are fully three fully publicand mine had a math and science focus and for me it was really cool becauseit really opened up my world and I had eight hundred kids in my grade and itwas extremely diverse. You know racially socioeconomically justbackground wise interestwise, so I got used to working really hard. Imissed some a hundred and twenty days of high school and got to be reallygood friends with the principal and everyone bea like Tet. Explain like Hey,I'm going to maintain my grades, don't worry, but I am going to miss a lot ofschool. This is why I'm going to miss it and they were very accommodating. Itwas really I loved high school. I thought it was really cool and it wasfun because, because there was that math and science focus, there were alot of people who were engineering enthusiasts and people who vove liferacing and they understood the physics of it and so people I probably wouldn'trelate to in other ways we got o bond over racing and they thought it wasreally cool. So it was fun. It was a lot of fun. I A you, probably didn't,have the opportunity to play other sports and high school and stuffbecause you're on the road and then you're trying to make up for classesand stuff like that, there's not a lot of time to do be on a basketball team,for example. No, no, I'm not. I O really think I'm built for many othersports, Om I'll, be Honesta, maybe running, and I love running, and so Ialways did that. You know several times a week after school, but I reallydidn't start doing more focus training...

...until I got into college when I hadaccess to a gym, it was like Oh wow. I can do a lot more and if I do morepushups and if I do more strength to training, it helps him in the car aswell. And so it's been interesting and I've now workwith a trainer. It's Trashan and wish Pudin performance fitness and we dovery specific racing training and neck training. And you know, as they are talking about comcussionsin football they're, also talking about that in racing, because even though wehave the helmets like if we knock into a wall, we hit our seat rest and thenthat still has the potestioal to lead to a concussion. So building up nextstrength, really building up core strength to be able to hold ourselvesin the car. Because, as soon as we start to physically fatigue, then allwe focus on is just trying to stay upright and trying to get the cararound the track instead of more proactively. How are webracing, howwe're going to get by these people. So it's really important to have thatphysical fitness and we do a lot of visual training. Like really cool stuff,like you know, pedaling on stationary bike, to maintain motor skills and thenhaving strobe logles on that flash and then my trainer will throw tennis ballsat me and I have to catch them. So it's just doing all this stuff to try totrain the visual the Reaction Times, the you know century input just because allthat is relevant to racing, which I think is so much fun and really cool tofind Youn right, Davand, IARE, part of a company here in Tithbur call twentyone x and what the company does at measures and monitors your brainperformance, but by playing games on your phone and it's Ald noropsychtestthat we really target different areas of your brain and so over the yearsthat I've been doing this, I met a company out of Canada. They what youwere talking about, the tennis balls. They do it on a computer screen Yo.They show you three tennis balls in the beginning and then you have to followthem through the process and it starts real. Slow, then gets faster and faster,and it's working on what you're talking about like? Can You keep up? Can youfind these tennis balls because you're trying to increase the performance ofyour brain as you go and our test is basically giving you that score everytime? Right is what I am doing working and I know part of what you're doingalso. Is you start your day, sunny side up at the Westen, bonaventure, hoteland swueets and enjoy breakfast for two on us? No matter how you plan to spendyour trip to Los Angeles start every day with a hearty meal to kick startyour morning enjoy breakfast for two on US each day. You stay for reservations,be sure that premo code SFOR B appears in the Promo codebox when making youronline reservation at mariottcom backs, LAX, bw or call one eight hundred twuo,eight e Thouandnine e udred, a d ninety and ask for promotional code SFOR B. No,it's! I got a great appreciation for it because I started the pepsy fivehundred one year and I was down at Daytona and it's the day before the bigrace and I'm in a PONIAC Bonnaville we're doing a hundredand twenty an a Poniag Bonaville, I'm holding on to the side because we'regoing around because it's so steepen and I couldn't believe that the guys behindus were theye just like I us they were cruising they're doing their littlething. You know they're getting ready to start the race and I'm hanging on anthis car is screaming down the down the track, and I'm like this is crazy. Itwas a lot of fun, though I really enjoyed my time there, I'm so glad yougot to do that. Yeah I mean it's super different and even just to see a raceSHAC and see how bank some of them are. It's like it's hard to walk up, andthen you think if there are these like rocket chips on wheels, they're,somehow staying on that and then racing against each other. There's there's alot going on. So when you talk about the heat in a car, how much weight doyou lose on one of your racest? Now, because I know that that sweat and thescience behind that and how do you keep from sweating so much all those kind ofthings, because if you lose so much salt and sweat in your body, it's gotTa, be a detriment to your brain and everything you're talking about yeah.So I've never measured myself partially because, like my caregets really wetand that and then adds which I think wouldnit be super scientific on me, butthe average guy. So I want to say, like five ten one. Fifty hundred and sixtyish can lose five to ten pounds of water weight during a several hour race.And so it's a lot and so much of the preparation for racing starts severaldays ahead of time with hydration and you know cutting out alcohol and eatingreally clean foods and for hydration on raceday. It's a finebalance, because you want to hydrate enough that you'R, you know, figuresufficiently hydrated, but not over hydrating, so that you flush out allthe important minerals and vitamins that are in your system. And what Ifound was that what we do have water bottles in the car that we can drinkwhenever. But what I found is that having electrolite sold water or evenjust salt water was so much better than just having plane water, because itreally rereplenishes and guess the...

...sugars and the salts up and yeah youspweat Toclinen. So you have to really balance that and take intoconsideration the foods that you eat, leading up to the race. Julia tell us now so you're at Stanfordand but you're still pursuing your dream of being a racecar driver likehow do you balance that you're on the other side of the country now like whattake us through that they got racetracks out there so yeah I throughout my college year,as I only raised part time, and it was only during the summers after myfreshman youare actually interned at an ASCAR team, just to be able to be inNorth Carolina and then I raced a handful weekends during the summer andthen, but it was my junior year in college, where I did more consistentracing throughout spring quarter and the summer, and you know I race, there' somethingcalled legends cars. They look like Oun, N tys cars Bhat like halfscale, andthey just go in a lot of those shorter racetracks like third mile up to halfmile in California. So I would just pack up on a Friday morning and driveover. You know few hours to racetrack fond, a great team out there. We racedon Sonoma and these little cars, which you know they have an Indie car race.They have a NASPAR race and it's in wine country, which is Super Nice, andI had friends that came out to some of the races and it was really cool forthem to see. But, as I mentioned earlier like, I started really takingmy strength, training a little more seriously and really utilizing the tools o this gymhad to offer and it was tough. But I liked doing a lot of stuff, I thinkthere's a lot of cool stuff in the world. That's worth trying out so thatbeing being busy, but productive was always something that I really enjoyedand I think in general, my life is fairly fast pace. So for me, thatbalance was totally doable. Definitely a challenge,and I found as long as I got adequate amounts of sleep. I was was good to gowell with him all of that Julia then audition, firs, survivor, survivor. Idon't think, is that temine like is it? How do you say the name of the where you went? Karamonk Armoan,island Oryeilo, six? It was fan versus favorites, but I will orever be citterabout because it's had people whove played before at people who haven't soinherently unfair. But yes, I didn't what's tyhe audition process like forthat yeah I mean you have to send in an audition video and you have to say whyyou're going to be good on the show- and I was really pulling in my schoolexperience and how my racing in my school experience were going to make mereally great. You know the final result. Mi have been a little different. Iended up getting the really boring edit, but I will say you know for me it was areally big lesson in authenticity because I decided not to tell people. Iwent to Stanford because you're playing for a million bucks, and so I thought,okay. Well, if I play as well as a single mom or someone who worked aminimum wage job, you know why would they give me the million dollar prize?So I conceal that whole part of who I was and then, when you spend days on anisland where you don't have much going on there's a lot of talking and I wouldrealize I'd go to story and then realize. Oh, that would blow my coverand the last thing you want to do is let people know that you were deceivingthem. So I just ended up being kind of quiet in addition to you know beingthrown into this totally unfamiliar environment. Your body's dealing withso much stress I mean there's so much going on it's very authentic, but Ilearned that it was just better to own who I was and just play into all thedifferent parts about me, because I know authenticityes a buzzword thatwe hear a lot. But it's it's way better to own who you are than to conceal bigparts of it, because then you just don't shine as wo yeah. It feels it'sprobably stressful, like you're, always concentrating on what not to say, yeahyeah, and then you becoom quiet and then no one like somene quiet onreality TV. So you just don't thrive, but the challenges were so much fun. Imean talking about those physical challenges like you're,totally depleted totally Mountai Ourish, you know dehydrated and with peoplethat you mar may not like very much, and then you have to make it wors haveto bring the team together. You have to allocate jobs and alecate parts of thechallenges to different people's strengths and we lost a lot. It was a huge test, ingperseverance but ther were so much fun like the challenges like jumping off oa platform and hitting a plaqu and then falling into the ocean is very excitingright, probably not as exciting is going to hundred miles round the track.But now different water can be scary, though, so that's a whole new like riskfactor to it. There are sharks in there alot of stuff um when so, when you geteliminated. How soon after that moment, do you return back home you out there?I think the show does a really good job BS. They don't want people knowing thefinishing order, so we're out there yeah. So you just stay out there. Youjust Stande: How long did it take vacation? I guess Hellon. I take startto finish for you.

I think it was six weeks from when Ileft to when I got back. The game is thirty nine days and there's like kindof a prepreppin in the post stuff and was it like physically taxing, oh, my gosh. I thinkI lost twelve pounds at the time. I was like five five, maybe one fifteen and Igot extremely skinny, which you know I made it out halfway, and so I kind oflook back and I think what would have happened, how I madit the full wig BS.There was a lot of way to lose again. Your Body is so stressed and reactsvery differently and, and I got really badly sunburned and no, it was. It was very taxing and youdon't sleep very well, so you're just you're just miserable all the time and yeah. Do you think that somehow thathelped you in preparation for the amount of time you have to spend in acar racing and how physically taxing and metally taxing? That is on yourbody? Yeah? That's! That's! A really interesting perspective- I itdefinitely gave me a sense of it, but at the same time I think races last alot longer where wo have to stay physically, focused, wile, beingdepleted and I'V, never as depleted in the race car, as I was on the show, sothey're definitely parallels, but I think some of the bigger lessonsfor me we're not so much on the physical side, but I sall take thatback I'll get to that in a second but the kind of understanding how I am CN,portraying myself or comveying myself to an audience. I think that was areally big lesson, but another big thing was that team, mork component andthe leadership- and you know when you join a racing team. Basically it's arental program. You know we as a driver either ourselves or with our partners,pay a team to rent out the car use the crew, and so we always always havecontrol over who we're working with and who ar mechanics are and who the crewchief is, and so in those moments. Regardless of whether or not you getalong, you have to figure out how to make it work, and I had a much worseexperience on survivor like I've been pretty good with my teams, but it did.It was a really good lesson and how do you encourage all these people to betheir absolute best during the challenges that you don't have to goback to tribal council and vote someone off the island Gand it didn't work. Welost everything, but it was interesting to kind of see how different peoplereact to pressure and stress and being tired and then learning how toaccommodate different people's needs. Yeah, I would say that's kind of likethe business world. When I first started, I mean I playd he nf fifteenyears go in, it was a coach and then all SOM, inthe business world, don'tknow anything about that right and one of the best tips I ever got fromsomebody who was a CEO. He said: Look when you go in and you're trying topitch or cell you're doing a presentation you got to find out whothat person is in that room. That wants to be your enemy that doesn't like whatyou're selling and then you convince them that what you're doing is great,because the people that you have to convince to be on your side are theones that don't want to be on your side right and then that goes any kind ofteam right. If I had a player who had an an issue with a coach that did me nogood on the field, if he's out there complaining about everything we weren'tgoing to win the game, and so you have to get him on your side. Say: Don'tworry about that. Let's just go! Do Your job! Let's play! You know samething in the business same thing, for probably what you're doing, whetherit's on survivor or trying to manage a team that maybe some people- you don'treally know, and they don't really want to work o your card and you got to getthem to do the right thing, because you know how important that is a hundredpercent, and I think that that ability to be a leader no matter what situation you're in isreally important and there's a quote from Bill Bradley that says: Leadershipis unlocking people's potential to be better to become better, and I justthink that's really cool, because it kind of puts the responsibility inevery individuals hands to make everyone else on their team better. Andthen you can do this n, your a really valuable asset, and I think that's sotrue, like no matter what you do in life. So can you tell us a little bitabout I'm thinking all the stages you've gone through and in racing it's kind of like the minorleagues up to Major Leagues, AF baseball. Can you explain a little bitof that to US yeah? So basically, NASCAR specifically has threeprofessional levels: The Cup series, which is where you saw Jeff Hordan. Yousee Jimmy Johnson, what Janic a Patrick just retired from they have the NASCARexpinity series, which is here two and the NASCAR truck series, which is thefirst professional level, my managere plates it to Tipa, baseball and thenbelow that you have more of the regional tour in series which are, Iguess, would be the minor leagues and they have several different series.I raised in the West Coast Nascar series for two years this year and lastyear raised part time in the Canadian aspar series which it's Canada'spremeor stock car series, but I would...

...still fall with on the minor leaguesthere to the states and there are a lot of different racing series and you know,as you climb the ranks, the races get longer. The cars get a little faster,more advanced the tracks get bigger, you get more TV exposure, so it reallyis an interesting system, but I think those that kind of Tiplea, minor Leaguis where, where I'm playing right now right. So when you graduate fromStanford like, what's where do you go like, as in terms of you know, you'regoing to be a driver right? I was pretty much decided so like what e?What of those levels did you start at yeah? So I graduated, I moved to NorthCarolina and Thiwan thousandand fourteen and then in two thousand andfifteen. I raced in a Nasscar senction weekly racing series, so it was achampionship at one specific race track. So I went to that same racetrack allseason, one half the race of them onmer championship there, so that was reallycool, so that's kind of like the very beginning of the NASCAR ladder and thenfrom there you go into more touring series o. You could do the same type ofcar, but had a bunch of different race tracks, and then I jumped up to aseries that had fourteen races a year. It is. It was televised the NASCARCanan pro series televised on you know Ta delayed, but still get tosee it, and then you know it kind of depends. What thegoal is and depends how much funding you have, because it does get extremelymore extensive with each level F Youclime, but now we're trying to breakinto that first professional series in the NASCAR tuck series, and also doingother types of racing and more minor leags, just to get the good seatime. Sodoes a car change as you go up like because you own your own car. No, sothis is where again, like you rent it from the team so like in two thousandand fifteen. When I won the championship, the car that I drove wasthree hundred and fifty horse power. I think, and then the next year I jumpedup to one that was ID fifty and the tires are different. The spects of howthe cars built is a little different. The suspension is different so and thisyear in the Canadian series they use different shocks, and so basically,when you hit the breakes- and you know when your car- the front of the carkind of goes down a little bit when you get your breaks basically the way mycar this year, reactive, was different than how it did several years ago in adifferent car and the Horse Poweris a little different and the brake pads aredifferent. They have more robust, Brak pads in some series and less for a busbreak pad. So you have to be gentle and maintain your equipment, so lots ofdifferent technicaly compoments, so in Canada, do they have to put thoselittle spikes on your tire, so you get around the track, can know the ice Lik, but season goes from maytoSeptember because of weather, Oh yeah, I'm sure this Lik march to November tell us Ol, I sponsorship works. Do youhave an agent, you solicit sponsorrs, or do they come to you? How does it?How does that work yeah? So it's varied ind. Something that's shifted. I thinkover the last ten years within asstar think since the recession, the kind oflandscape of the sport has changed a little bit and it is paid to play andit's a mix of selffunding through family or family businesses that yousee a lot of younger people coming up the ranks and unfortunately,sponsorship is just Har to come by for anyone and the sport is so expensive.But for me personally, I do work with the manager and we combination itsadoledly above right. We pitch we're in a couple of descussions right now,whith a really exciting, and then we have people coming to us for differentpartnerships, and it varies in price, like Torona. Fullseason of an SAR tuck series is like two o three million dollars for theseason and the Cup series upfor the best teams of like twenty milliondollar,so you're talking, big dollar amounts to go racing, and so fo me it's aboutbeing creative and figuring out. You know where I come dot little chumps ofthat and build that up and so combination of partnerships like thisyear, ive worked with Shel Turo and a wine company which was really cool,brought in a little bit. I've also selffounded through speakingengagements, but to move up we really need those more robus partnerships andso its a mix of seeking them out and nhaving people come to us and justfinding out where I can provide value not just from an nontack marketing butfrom a more wholelistof three hundred and six year review of how I can help acompany and they're initiative, whether they're at te track or way from thetrack right. So you can say hey. I want you to sponsor my car, but then I'llcome and speak for if you have an engagement, I'd love to come talk toyour employees, you're talking if you're you know whatever. That is, andwe try to do that little bit here on huddle up with with sponsorship as well.So we we had rive if we try we're working on it, we're working on it wellon wikt to part with money very quickly. So but yeah, it's exactly to that point.It's about. You know, understanding where companies needs and a lot of it.For me, you know women in sports right now is really big and women'sempowerment and being able to authentically carry that mission andcarry that messaging and to create content. Maybe it's a you know, videocontent, that a company is trying to...

...support or put out, maybe it's beingable to engage employees and kind of give that motivation for the internalcorporate initiatives. So iy, really just it's there's! No one size fits alland people. You know, there's no, like one deck that I send out. That y knowit's us like what is this company's needs is or they're an organic fit, andis there the room to be created and how we help each other. So does yourmanager do love that or do you do a lot of that YEP? He does a lot. I do a lot.It's a full fledge team effort. Right now. You know he's got relationshipsthat I don't have, but I also, I firmly believe that, like I am my bestsalesperson and I think most talent will be if they can articulate it willbe their best sells person. So it's a collaborative effort yeah now this thatmakes sense that is tough and you'r your own business right Youre Na. Sowhen you go and rent a car from a racing team, you also are renting alltheir mechanics and everything else. So do you just pay one feed for that yeah?Basically, and you you discuss with the team mowner kind of what the cost are,what they need to make from it, and- and that covers everything. So if youhave a sponsor and that's poltor want to put their logo on your car, theteams, okay with you putting that on their car and all that yeah yeah. Ithink at this point in racing in general, people aren't going to likelysend away sponsorship. I mean, if there's a direct conflict of interestwith a team sponsor. I don't think it would work as well, but that hasn'tbeen the case. So far. Great so then, if you're part of a I you rent a car,you win a bunch of races, you're getting more and more well known. Doesthat team that you rented that car from also rusher back to you a little bit orNotso O rebshare back with you like? Is there a reciprocal? You know you'repaying them, but I'm putting you out in front stage because I'm wonting allthese races, yeah! No, I mean it's. I think it's just a little more cruttondry than that. You know you're, as you sai like we pay for, and then you know,hopefully the teams doing a good job, and then you get to show off all thework that you've now paid for and and the thing with racing. That'sinteresting is that so much is out of your control right and the fact that Ilove that it's a tech based for because it is so cool to have that humanmachine interaction, but like machines, fail and like ther stuff, that goeswrong. That's no one's fault! You can get a flat tier attend an axle break,which is a freak accident. You know just stuff happens, and so it's youknow when I talk about winrights and you think of a traditional team, a neygiven player in a batetball game. Anda, given player, has a fift fifty chanceof linning right, Wellit Jeff Wordon who's, one of the most deparatedPracios of all time. He had a fourteen point. Nine one percent to like you, owyou're, so unlikely to win like winning having a win rate in the teams is avery tiwin rate, and so I think to be a little bit crazy to pursue this, butthere's just so much that's out of your control and so much that has to goright to win, and so I think that's what makes it so special when it doeshappen like you, can have all the bad weekends in a row, and you just havethat one good weekend and you're like I'm, going to go. Let's go racingforever because this is like, and then you lose a bunch you and then it's justFein toxating when it does go well because all Tis Tenta, it's like golfits at one shot that keeps you coming back. Yeah won Goshoo keep I comin backgambling or Dambng yeah, like you, lose a bunch and then all of a sudden you,but, as you win once ad put on Rad and you wain on this, will yeah definitelyyeah. How does how does surprise money work? I know like if you compared tolike PGA. You know the golfers, maybe the top twenty five get paid like. Howdoes it work in your stap? It depends on the series and there you know.Sometimes the team takes majority of the TOT majority, O tuting majority ofit. Sometimes it's split with the driver. It just depends what theoverall deal looks like, but then, as you get to the higher levels, mostdrivers are on a salary for the team like in the cup level, the top levelBUCH drivers are on a salary. You also get endorsement money and licensing alittle bit from licensing and then, however, a lot of teams will have atear system for prize money. So if you finish tenth or below you getxpercented the Driveris, expercentage and you're more incentive Bius, as youwin, is maybe get a little bit more. If you get a top five, and maybe you getlike twice if you get a win, but that's just a case by case cases, Valet stayand play on your next getaway to Los Angeles, the western Bontaventure,hotel and sweits offers effoliss access to all the city of angels has to offerwhether you're hoping to catch a concert or sporting event. Our hotelsjust moments away from all the action and accessible to Hollywood, beaches,museums and theme parks. The package includes a guest room and valet parkingfor reservations, use promocode PSF in the codebox when making your onlinereservation or call one two UN, three six, two four one thousand and ask forPromo Code, PS, F, so you've been...

...around cars since you've been ten andgo carts and everything else mechanically. What is your skill levelright? Kay, can you do everything on a car? Oh, no, I don't know yeah so o ongo cards. I did a lot of the work on go carts and with race cars. Once I switched toNASCAR, I had a lot more to learn. Just ecase the cars are sow different and Iwould say that I'm technically literate. I know why different changes makehavethy effects. They have. You know if, let's say the car doesn't turn in asquickly as I wanted to in going into corner. We have to break it down andsay: okay, am I on the breaks, an Mi off the Broog, so you know o have totake a whole lot of pieces into consideration, and I can, I will knowlike what family of changes can be made, but sometimes the crue people just havea more precise, more nalibl idea of what specific change to make a lot ofteams. Don't like the drivers working on the cars just because they don'twant us to mess it up Bo from an understanding standpoint, I'm prettygood. I can always get better and something I'll try to keep doing. But it's a it's very interactive and I, but I will say Icannot tear a parton engine and put that back together. Lo No chance, nochance, those people are a lot more toxiv than I am and motregards. What'syour average top pees right now, so the top speed I have pit is a hundred andseventy four miles an hour, I'm a little bummed it wasnt oned and seventyfive, because that's nice round number, but it depends on the track size. Youknow I race on some tracks that are only a half mile long and those maybewill hit like Onre, ten unred and twenty. But then, as you get to thebigger tracks, the mile of a mile and half your fit in that Highe ran but idsay the average a lotof. What I'm doing is in like the average feet around thetrack is like eighty ninety miles an hour if you ever wante to just wantedto do Formula One or any of thet type of rating. I started in that style. Itbecame very clear that was going to be a rough thing to pursue financially,but then also the old owners view on women was very public and nothing yorflattering rightbut then also I mean, as I get older and I think about safetya little bit more Mascar, I believe, is one of these safest forms of motoracingand unfortunately, you still see deaths in formunal, one and Indcar, and reallyserious injuries at love racing and I hope to keep going it for a very longtime. I don't really want to Di doing it. So I'm going to limit my hanceshaving that happe I like having the full fender car and the role cagearound me. I like that my headis not exposed to things falling off of othercars, so I think I'll probably stick with a closed cars, but like I've,never done sports car racing, and I think that would be a lot of fun butdifferent different types. Right yeahthere are different types of racingwhat'. So, what's the next step? What are you looking for to achieve nextinneur sport next step would be a tribreak into gracing in the nasparksup series that first professional level and there'r still purpose built racebars. They just look like trucks kind of help out the manufactors, becausethe original model for NASCAR was rased on Sunday. So on Monday and the CARJussan, the showen floor were very similar to Wai Sawn risetrack. So theykind of continue that tradition and then yeah into to keep doing thatand to you know, we've had a lot of bad luck this year, and so they get somebetter results and have more things come together and to raise just alittle more consistently with limited budget. I do lot par time racing o thelast two years and you get a little Rusky, just like any athlute thatdoesn't get to do their sport. Radio, so lot more seat, time and startbreaking to that. First Professional. Do you have a favorite make? What doyou race ore? You forwd Chevy toor in Canada? We still run dodges, so I had adodge chalenger this year, which was but I esides that I haven't had astrong strong. You know feeling for one or the other, because in a day they allgo fast. So right what Cardyo drive just on a day to day vasis I drive,Baltnian GTI stick shift and I love it. I don't want it to die anytime soon, soGoto keep keep on that for as long as I can yea those bere nice little cars, soI can get around pretty good hes, sporty they're, really great andtraffic they're way easier to park than bigger vehicles. So for those of us whoare parallel parking challenged yeah, it's a it's a nice little car. I think that what you're doing is amazing,because I know that I could never do that. Just driving like on the turn pikegoing to see, I went to see my son this weekend of Williaman marry an yestaketern pag that ta get on ninety five from DC. It's just insane, but doing itat a hundred seventy four hundred seventy five miles an hour. I thinkshe's actually safer than we are out because there's some crazy people outthere' a lot more than I like being on the road. True store, Ido, really likedriving on the road like that country, roads or through the mountains, or onething, but it's way more dangerous on...

...the street than much more defensivethan he at the race. Always Sayn like pet peeve. Is that person in his fastline going slow. I like that thank yeah I at paid that, like just move overrigh like get over Wi'd like to see like Julia like in aroad rage situation, that's not not dangerous, but where someone cut youoff and then they don't realize who they're cutting yeah, she just ridesher bumper and then like like, because she could completely make them looksilly, an and th y. They didn't it's kind of like et Goingto, a bar and likepicking a fight with a guy, but you don't know he's a hockey player becausehe might not de that bit and then he just destroys. You yeah know like soyeah to see o ard you gointo well. This is many years ago and just and whatI've heard, but yeah yeah yeah Yos. I definitely get angry on the road likethey just opened up. Some expressed woll wanes it north of Charlotte on thehighway and regardless of what the traffic looks like. I take them justbecause of like the sanctity of mind, and it's like there are fewer peoplethere, it's five miles an hour faster than the regular lanes, I'm like knowit, I'm investing in my mental wellbeing right now, and wit otherdiver, so is worth it because I have to take it. togets t my train, her so yeah.I tell my wife that all time you need to have a little more patience whenyou're driving because she's on the horn she likes. You know the flashingof the hand. If you know what I'm saying ohe window and very nice waysyeah you yeah yeah like she gets angry, really easywhen she's driving, which I understand I take it more your way up. I just justgo, and you know I don't Fash my lights atanybody. I am I'm I I aim for that. I don't really achieve it like. Idefinitely do, but I don't want to take years off mylife because of driving. So so are you a fan of any other sports, so I I've been dabbling more like Ireally enjoy watching basketball. I can't tell you very much about it butlike in terms of watching a sport or going to a game. I do like basketballand I've been to a handful ornits games here in Charlotte, but no, I wouldn'tsay, like I'm, a big sports. I love the Olympics and Ireally I really love the sports. That kind of are more the individualperformance of the Gymnastics Tho running, I think track is fascinating.Just because I think track. Athletes are totally super human, but, like I'm knowledgeawol about someright Wellaif, your question is not really, but there are some sports andsome athletes I really enjoy watching compete. That's awesome! So one of thelast things we do on the show here we have this call our two minute drow orno huddle. We fire a bunch of questions at you, so dave a starts so day. Bunchof far away are Julia if you could make a melt rush more of auto raising, whowould thos four people be okay, so Michael Shoemocker Mark Martin, Paul Newman, and I have to take that back. Oh Damn, H,there's only four, because then there's also Lin Sait James and Janet guthreeand Friley Mall downy. Here's along we could do amens and women's MountRushmore. There are enough women trail, lators and racing that the t, so what's your biggest pet peeveslow drivers in the left lane yeah, I like it so Aoul anticipator saying if you couldtell a yun if you could go back in time and tell a young Julia some bit of abit of advice. What would that be? There are two pieces. One is alwayskeep moving, always keep trying new things like like don't well, and theother thing is something my mom told me and she was thinking about finances andgetting compensated financially. But she said you know: You'll never getwhat you deserve, but you deserve whatever you can get, and I really likethat, because, if you're creative enough and Youe bed in a pustle to go,get something hopefully legally and like you know not hurting anybud right,but if you can do it, you deserve it, and I think that kind of helps combatthe doubt that so many of us feel so if you could be anyone else for a day deador live, who would that be Sereno Williams? It's pretty goodOneyeah, I think she's just to be the goand. I mean just everything I lovewhat he does. You know from a sport perspective from an EtowermenceRespectifrom, a business perspective she's, just she is goals and as long asshe's been doing it as well, I mean not high of love. What's pretty amazingand the family component, I mean I love that it's been a family affair for solong right. If you could be the commissioner of anAscar for a day, what role would you change? I would probably make the races shorter,and so it's more intent. I I would hope that that would make it more intenseracing for a sorter period of time. What is your biggest fear? I fear my baby sper would be kind oflooking back and having any regrets or...

...thinking that I could have donesomething more. I could don something better or more intentionally that mayhelp may have helped me get to where I want to go. What about physical fear? Imean you're rahtits our driver and you bin Survivor. So there's probably notmany but like Er jump out of a airplane like nothing about that soundsappealing, and I have friends who do Idi men and, Oh, it's so great. It's ofun like absolutely not like that. I I couldn't do it. I don't think I posepace either yeah that and bungee jumping like I don't really want tolike dive off a bridge with a thing strapped to my ankles and hoping andsays attached yeah. That's does not seem fun to me at all. Now I agree withyou on jumping out of planes. I don't get that. I maybe there's a rush thatthey you know. They always talk about. It's just there's a lot to lose. Thatstring, workris, benefit analysis, Rightt', there's aals a little weird.So what frustrates you when you're racing about the other drivers W atwhat? What do they do to you that really frustrate you? It's veryfrustrating Wen drivers, lock you and that's part of racing, but you knowsometimes on certain racetracks like sometimes you can't always raise sideby side, because the asphalts a little different or just doesn't have theattraction. So there's like one line that works around the racetrack andsomeone's walking. That's tough. I think I drivers who do more bonehood Bonsimoves. I don't like as much. I think my driving style, an the racing that Ireally appreciate is really good hard, clean racing and there's kind of twoschool thet thoughts. I think that you know either you know, do anything toget the win, even if you take people out versus like clean hard racing andyou got to earn Tho the place that you got I'm more on that side. I just don'tlike anyone, can knock someone out of the way but to execute a past properly.I think takes a lot more still, and I just appreciate that and drivers more. If you could step into a time machineand go back in time to for a day. Where would you go and what time parieg would you be? I would I am really really obsessedwith NE IES NEW YORK. I Lo e Hu Tis kind of a foss the board just thinkit's a fascinating time period and yeah New York City. I just think toknow it today versus where it was in the s would be fascinating. Like it's just aperiod, I love a lot yeah. That would be great because it's totally changedlike when you go to the plays or the shows now n New York. Nobody dresses uplike I can remember a few years ago, my wife and I were Gong- would always I'wear a suit and she'd wear a dress and then like we're like people, Wearintshirts it her all like tody is so laid back so different yeah. I need munalaspect and, like you know, you see photos of like sidewalk and LowerManhattan and just how bustling it was. But, like everyone was more or lessconnected, I think I think New York with that technology that we have nowwould be really interesting because it is a Qik community right. So what is your favorite sports movie? Oh that's a great question, so I love aLeague of their own, but I haven't seen it in a while and I think, like twothousand and Nineteen Lens is kind of different than when you see it as alike ager and but I also like I don't know if theSanlot count says a sports, we and counte. That's a great sports movieyeah. What was the movie with Tom Cruis in it when he as a thunder days asunder that MEA has another really good one, but I just love how they like tookthe cameras in there right so that youve remember how you were saying howyou you want to smell it, feel it like it. Almost in that movie, you kind ofget that sense, Yep and as a fan when I watched some of the races, like I kindof almost want that, but so hard for a camera to be able to do that. I knowhis, but they now also have helmet cameras, so they put them on thehelmets and you can just see how much vibration there is, how much thedrivers are moving around this I's. Definitely getting better they'reexperimenting is getting getting good, Alrigh Kay last question: What's thebest race you've ever been to as a spectator, most memorable. So probably when I went to the FormulaOne race in Montreal, I forget how old I was. I was probablystill single digits, but it's it's in Montreal and it's on island basicallyand like the fhull city comes out for and Thet's just this hole to do and somuch energy and such a small area, and it was just totally electric and it wasmy first conscious memory of going, I think its the first big race. I hadever gone to andjust like there's so much here, and it was just I asn't allthat Gotcha it got me it got me that's...

...great. Well, I think you taught David.I A lot today about about racing and we can't wait to watch you when does this. When does the seasonstart again, so my seasons done for two thousand and nineteen. So we'll startup again in two thousand and twenty and I'll be announcing across my socialmedia at Julia Landour bracing plans once they get solidified,wonderful, wonderful! Well, we can't wait to watch you. We appreciate youcoming on our show and learning about a sport that that we haven't been able totalk about yet agree. I'm interested much more rightnow than I was you know, and maybe months ago, maybe we'll getyou out in the car. Let's Yo it cand do that at's go on to Carolina, we'll goGE in the car, we'll do a show while you're driving I'll interview, yousounds good as long as we don't get in fights, O hocky players, yeah H,exactly practice talking while you're exercising that's one thing. Ioleve onyou know, the driver has to be able to communicate with the team while we'redriving, and so I actually started practicing talking while I'm running to get usedto clearly articulating while I'm stressed- and so I gave a sedex talk inMay, and there was one run where I actually went through the entire twelveminute talk. While I was running trying to enunciate and speak clearly to havebetter communication on the radio O yeah, it has to be trat pus the enginesgoing nd and there's al your mind has to be you're talking, but you're alsoseeing what everybody else is doing. It's got to be crazy, like Dave justrides a bike, and he can't call somebody has to text me true. I can tersothing, I can say so, but thank you so much for Hai Thosthacks fare coming on. It was great and we'll talk San okay, thanks jor Yo,Taelia Hout. We want to thank you for listening tohuddle up with gus a RADIOCOM original. You can find our show on radiocom thenew RADIOCOM HAPP or anywhere you listen to your favorite podcast. Pleaseleave us an review or comment if you enjoyed the show, we are on facebook,twitter, instagram and Youtube at Huwdl. Up with us. You can also visit us onour website. HUTDLOE UP WITH GUSCOM.

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