Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

Episode · 1 year ago

John Ashton & Mathew Laurance

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Welcome to Huddle Up with Gus, with 15-year NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte! It’s a packed show today as Gus welcomes two great actors, John Ashton and Matthew Laurance. From Beverly Hills Cop and Midnight Run to Saturday Night Live and Eddy and the Cruisers, Gus takes these two characters through their careers on up to how they see the world today. Matthew amps up his comedic wit to nuclear strength as the trio give politics, the latest on the gridiron and the state of the nation a hard once-over. Buckle up that chinstrap sport, because you’re about to get into one huge pileup!

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Fanboy ish, I think even if I didn't act it because of the respect and admiration I have for him as an actor. Now, once I got to know him as a person, not all changed, but the acting part of it was pretty special to me. So it's, it's an honor for me john to be on any platform with you since I never got to act with you, which is just a travesty of a mockery of a sham, but I wanted to get that out of the way and now you guys go go, well you have that john well, Matthew, thank you very much and goodnight everybody, thank you, that's it, Show's over, Show's over. Great! Well yeah, we'll see you uh no, that was great, thank you, Matthew, it is it, you know, it is wonderful when you get to meet the people that have come kind of before you are in that peer group that you're in, like that's how I felt when I met terry Bradshaw because that was always my idol growing up here in Pittsburgh and watching him play and that's why I had the number 12, so john what do you think about, how does that make you feel? And Matthew talks about you like that? Well, I mean, I don't know, I'm speechless, but that, that was fantastic, Matthew, thank you and you know, I respect you as an actor too. I mean you've done some wonderful things, you know, and uh, I think the first time we met was playing golf at Los robles in 1000 Oaks, I think was when we, when we used to have to thursday group to thursday things, I think, I think that's where we met and uh, I've always respected you as an actor and thought you were terrific and I think you should still be doing it, I keep bugging you about it, but uh anyway, uh, I don't know what to say, thank you man, I never, I never, I never knew you felt that way, but now that I know that I'm never talking to you again, so john what do you think, what do you think is better uh, Matthews acting or Matthews golf game, because I've been trying to figure this out since we've met, well, you know, acting in golf for a lot of like, you know, I mean, you got your good days and you got your bad days, you know, sometimes sometimes they use sometimes they use that take you wish you hadn't, they used, you know, and sometimes you can think and sometimes you can take that part back to, you know, so you know, they're kind of similar to the one thing and we were talking about this, the one thing about our profession as actors and being golfers we have probably seen and done more things in the world than I would have ever ever been able to do had I not been an actor or a golfer, I like meeting Matthew, I mean you just go out on the golf course, you meet these people, you become friends, I mean Jim McMahon and I are great friends and we met during a golf tournament, you know, we've been friends for 20 years now and I'm going to see him actually in the two weeks down in Florida, but uh, it's just, it's amazing how our profession and the game of golf has been able able me to see the world that I, that I would have never seen, had I not chosen the craft that I chose. I also think that, you know, us as players can't do what you guys do and maybe you guys can come and do what we do, but you really don't want to, it's like being in a car wreck all the time and golf, golf is a good mediator for us to go out, have fun, you know, not play a sport that's crazy, physical, but you can have a lot of fun doing it and it is a great way to meet people. Well, you know, I think us, I think we obviously talked about this when I was on last time, but I have said I've talked about how golf changed my life when I started playing, but what, what john is talking about, like he casually says, you know, Jim McMahon has been, I think I told you the very first celebrity tournament I played in, I went to play the practice round and I got over to the cart and turned the bag tag over and it said Bart starr for me. I mean I was this guy from new york, I mean I grew up in Yankee Stadium watching the Giants play and Bart Starr, I couldn't talk for five holes, I couldn't, I kept looking at him and going, it's art star. I mean all all are we all wanted to be athletes. Every actor wanted, right? Yeah, right. But because of golf we have gotten to be friendly with our heroes with guys that we idolize all...

...over the world, we get to play with them. So start you mentioned Bart Starr Matthew and I played the Vince Lombardi tournament at Mille walked out outside of Milwaukee and I was in my hotel and we were getting ready to go over to the golf course and I get in the elevator, the elevator door opens the birth stars there and I went holy cow, that's burst, don't worry, we would all do that, we would all do well. So does that make you guys pretty competitive like, okay, I'm going to play with Bart Starr, right? And now I have a chance to beat part start and something you got to. You just like happy to be no, no, no, you just don't want to embarrass yourself in front of you. Let me hit the ball in front of our star. You're so what does that, what does the word? It's like when all the fans are lined up along, you know because some of these programs, you know, there's people lined up along the tee box. What is harder for you guys? Is it hitting the ball to all those people there are hitting in front of somebody that like like a Bart Starr hitting in front of Bart Starr because if you hit one of those people big deal right, you just give them your golf club and they're okay. We got a big goose egg, but it'll be all right. You know, the first time this is funny though, the first time I played in the Crosby in north Carolina which was the absolute biggest golf tournament any of us ever played in. It was three days, 2 man teams, hundreds of people there. My brother Mitchie had played in it, but the year before and he said to me before I came, when you get to the first tee, ask your the guy you're playing with to put the ball on the tee for you. Make a joke. I said, what are you talking about? He said, I'm telling you your hand will be shaking, There'll be 300 people behind the teeth and you won't be able to put the ball on the teeth. And I got there, I said sure I got there and went to I could tell I couldn't do it. So I called Woody over and I said I'm a star, put the ball on the team. My hand was shaking. There were so many people there and were even if we're good, we ain't that good, we don't do it for a living for goodness sake. So You know, for me, I would rather hit a ball in front of Bart starr than 200 people. That's just me. Yeah, well I mean it is like even if you screw up in front of Bart starts one person, but the other people, they're probably not because they have their phone out back then nobody making a picture of anything, You know, I remember a lot of those days, so john let me let me get to, you were born in Springfield, Mass. And how long did you live there before you went to high school in Connecticut? Well we moved to Connecticut when I was six months old. So I was born in spring. Yeah, so I mean I was only six months old, we moved, it's only right across the border, it's only five miles away the border in Springfield and Enfield where I grew up right on the border, five miles apart from each other. And uh um yeah, so I I grew up in Enfield and you know, did you play, did you play sports growing up? Yeah, I played four years of football in high school and two years in college. How about that? How about that? Science? Right? He went to defiance, defiance college. Yeah, we remind my first year we were nine and oh and uh yeah, we had a really good team, Kirk Kirk me was our coach and he was really strict and he eventually went to Wisconsin and then he went to the Washington Redskins after that. But I got a question. Yeah, you froze. Yeah. What do you think? Oh, sorry about that. So I want everybody out there to try and guess what position john played in in football. So put it in the chat Matthew, what position do you think john played? Oh, he was absolutely a slot receiver because he was very thin and not that tall. Alright, It was a big guy. I'm so I know he was, I'm saying he was you were an offensive lineman. I think he was a linebacker right there. Gabe said, Mike, backer, Gunner said why dan said wide receiver. Gunner said free safety, I think you play defense. Uh but I don't know if anybody else you're right, I was a defensive end and linebacker, but I also like quarterbacks. But you know, in those days gus because you're too young to notice. But in in those days we were both ways. We played offense Andy yeah, we played office and...

...defense. And when I was in high school I never left the field from the kickoff to the end of the game, I was on the punt team, the kickoff team, offense, defense. I never left the field. What were we in? My high school coach was was a D. I. Instructor in the marines and he was a tough dude and we have your face. Oh yeah, I got a funny story for you. I had rheumatic fever when I was a kid, you know, when I was a little, so I would have to get my heart checked every now and then. So I missed practice one day because I had to go get my heart checked. So I don't think that I go to the practice the next day. He goes, Ashton, where were you yesterday? And I didn't want to tell him, you know? So I said, well, you know, I had some things in blah blah blah, blah blah. And he goes, come on, where were you? So I finally told him, look coach, I had rheumatic fever right into my heart checked every now and then he goes four laps. So I go onto the track, which is a quarter mile track, four laps is a mile full gear And every time I go by the cross finish line, he's yelling at me. How's your heart, Ashton? How's your heart? So I got a great story like that john mike. So my father in law was my high school football coach and harry sounds like a lot of like your coach and I missed a practice because I had to go to the dentist. My mom's like, you got to go to the dentist, right? And I'm like, okay, I'll go and, and then I'm walking into practice and I'm about an hour and a half late. I'm just d be bopping in like no big deal on the quarterback, whatever. He's yelling from Hallway like two fields over and I can hear him and he's just yelling. My last, what do you think? This is anybody? You can just come anytime you want the same thing. I get my pads on. I come out and he's waiting for me. I didn't run laps. I did bear crawls and Barrel rolls, 200 yards each. Never missed another practice again. That's just how they were back then, right? I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. Well, uh, Matthew was kind of hinting on this before, but I got into acting because I was a juvenile delinquent. I mean, you know when I grew up, I was, we were stealing cars and breaking into hardware stores. I mean, done some, don't be so hard for you stealing, oh, anything that would run, you know, it was like, and I had a probation officer, I was in jail. I mean it was and uh, hello, you still, there were still there. Okay, okay. So I mean, I mean I was really, so I'm walking down my hallway in my school and then the director and the director of our high school came up to me and said, you want to be in a play and I said, yeah, sure, you know, and uh it ended up being Oklahoma, I played judge Frye and I won best actor and all of a sudden I got a call to go into the Hartford stage company to do a walk on thing and a fellow and, and uh Anyway, I was 2:00 AM, we're rehearsing, I'm watching some in the audience, watching the other actors and I really said to myself, you know, I could be out on the street getting in trouble right now. Instead I'm sitting here learning something, you know, and, and then I gave the speech to my undergraduate uh, and that was during the Vietnam war and I saw everybody laughing and enjoying themselves and I said, this is what I want to do, I want to take people out of away from all the crap that's going on in the world and entertain people and, and this is my social work and uh, that's when I decided to be an actor and even when I went to college, I went to defiance. I played football, but it was also in the theater and uh, I was in Cape Cod was doing summer stock. I was making 25 bucks a week and room and board and I had a wife and a four month old baby and I said to myself, you know, I could be the greatest actor in the world, but who the hell is going to know it in defiance. Ohio, you know, So I applied the USC and I got accepted in the drama program there and I quit football and just devoted myself to my craft. That was probably pretty hard to quit football. I mean it is, but in college it's a lot more work than high school. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, Kirk me was tough. We were doing three days all the time. And actually I wanted, I wanted to switch the fullback, I wanted to play fullback and we already had a guy and you know, so, but you know, I wanted to dedicate myself to, I said, look, I'm not going to make a living doing playing football. I knew that then when this was 1968, and I said, and I said, I want to concentrate on what I want to do for the rest of my life. Well, those guys back then didn't make that much of a living anyway. No, no, not at all. There were probably a lot of guys that could have played, but didn't because they probably made more money working in the mill or doing something else, you know, $25 a week and room and board...

...and Cape Cod wasn't a whole hell of a lot. I just got to say something here. Um first of all, if I had known you were a juvenile delinquent, I never would have associated with you number one this this, this is what's so great about this, I never knew that stuff about john because even when we first met, we just had fun and we talked about acting and whatever we did and then through the years, how about this, john, you know the first play I ever did ever what Oklahoma, wow, you played curly, you played curly curly in Oklahoma gi guessed it. Exactly right. Hey, I got okay, I got a great story, I got a great story about Oklahoma. I was playing a golf tournament in Manchester. England with Howard keel was the yeah in Manchester with Danny Chambers and all that. Right, so, so uh johnny Mathis was at that tournament and he had a tournament we were going to in Ireland right after Howard's tournament. So we're in the car going to the golf course and Howard and I are in the car and he, he finds out that I did Oklahoma and of course he played curly on broadway, so he, we start singing pore jud is dead in the car. So so uh after we get done, Howard says, because we had the show to do that night and it was a black tie event that night. He goes, he goes, you want to do this at the show tonight Ashton? And I said, yeah, sure we go to the show, johnny Mathis is up on the stage just knocking people out. I mean he had the place and we gotta follow Mathis right? So I go over to Howard, I should crawl over to Howard at the table and I go, you want to follow that howard? And he goes, come on kid, we'll be fine, we'll be fine. So johnny gets done and the audience is mesmerized and then how hard I get up and saying poor john is dead and brought the house down. So I can always say I follow johnny Mathis and brought the house down. That is awesome. You know. And so when did you start playing golf john? I was bartending at a pool hall in Los Angeles and it was a pretty rough area in south Central L. A. Right near the coliseum and I had a little Murphy bed apartment for 85 bucks a month there too. So I was pretty broke and I was bartending in a lot of cops hung out there and uh one of them came in one day and said, hey, my wife bought me some new clubs who wants to buy my old ones And they were old Walter Hagen yeah so I said okay I'll buy, so I bought it for $50 and they sat in my apartment for six months at least and one day I had nothing to do and I looked at him, I said I think I'll take those and go play. And I was hooked. I went out and played and went to Griffith Park and played and uh so you you got to be a natural athlete like did you have you taken lessons? No, no. I was just, I picked him up and went out there and beat it up and went, you know, he was he was like eight handicapped like first time he played. Matthew, what do you think about that? Doubtful doubtful of that. I never I never took a lesson either. I didn't start playing till I was 31 when I moved out to L. A. I've said this, we used to beat the crap out of guys that play golf where I grew up. When I grew up I was going traveling to into the city and play basketball um playground. So I mean if you play golf you had money and you belong to a country club and you wore those pants. I mean nobody, we didn't want to do that. I didn't start till I moved to L. A. I was 31, my brother Mitch was out there, he had started playing which I had ridiculed him for for years and I got out there and started playing and uh I mean it's for all of us actors, you know, when we weren't working, we were playing golf six days a week, right, john if you were working you were playing. And how many jobs did people get because of somebody they met on the golf course or you know, it was a long way. Right. Yeah, I mean it changed all of our lives. It really did and josh gosh, you'll appreciate this when I, when I did that play in high school, right? All my juvenile delinquent buddies, you know our color, you want to be accurate. The thing of course I was going to agree to, you know the oh yeah they weren't, they weren't, I was going to be I and then all my football buddies...

...were teasing me about being an actor and all my actor friends thought I was some stupid Jack, you know, so you know, I'm sorry, I didn't fit in anywhere. I think you did. I think you fit in very well. But so john did you know that Matthew was in the circus? The circle. No. Yeah, I gotta show you, I gotta show you this picture this where to go gunner, we had it up. Mhm where is it? I don't know you my my my screen shrunk too. Yeah they're trying to get the picture of, no okay I don't know what happened to but we had a great picture of Matthew and his circus costume doing what? Doing what? It was sweet. I'll tell you what it was john right. I used to get these calls as I know you did, did I want to do battle of the network stars or did I want to do this show or that? And I always said no because I was a serious actor, no serious actor does that. Anyway one day I got a call from my agent, they would like to meet with me to do a little show. Every thanksgiving they did called Circus of the Stars and I said I'm not going to do that show. What do they want me to do? And they said they want you to walk the high wire and I thought you know what, I'm going to go talk to them because when in my life would I ever get a chance to do this? I went and met with them and it turns out that the guy that was training the three of us to do it was one of the guys that walked with the Wallendas, the most famous high wire family ever. Absolutely I did to do it. And so for Circus of the Stars, I walked the high wire. I rode a bike across the high wire. Well do we? Yeah, but we catch right there, but you did it with no net you see oh they didn't they have a safety belt on you two or something or you were rehearsing but not when we did the show. When you did the show um You did it without a harness or anything. Yeah I'll send you the video. So That has to be more terrifying than hitting a ball in front of 300 people. Oh yeah that was that was pretty terrifying. I couldn't do it by that time. After about six weeks. Um I actually did comedy up there. I was the comedy relief, I rode a bike across it with a wheel that was an oval. So every time it went up and down, every time I did the pedals the bike would go up and down. I mean I'm an incredible athlete along with being very humble. I'm an incredible athlete. I just picked it up and I did it. You know that's what how high off the ground is that? 20 ft? 20 ft now? That that's that's pretty intense. That's pretty intense. So john you love the picture when you see the picture man, that's why I couldn't do it but not me. So I don't like heights. Anyway. You know I go to I go to do a movie. I said don't put me above the fourth floor because I don't like heights. Oh yeah that wouldn't be good. They always want to give me a give me a sweet like on the 27th floor and I go no, put me down to like two or three. All right. So john you're living in your little apartment out in Cali and you pick up golf. What was the first gig you got that you got paid kind of well for? Well, it was a stupid little independent movie called, I think it's called psychopath now and at the time it was called, I can't remember what the original title was, but actually it was uh, there was an accurate it saw it then years later he said, you know, they had to redo that because we did it for like a buck and a half. And it was the, my, one of the directors in my theater program at USC, his nephew was directing it and he saw me do a couple of plays at school and wanted me to do this. It was a little independent, crazy little thing. And you know what you're, what year were you on mash, 72 or 3 73 maybe, wow. Yeah, that was. I love that picture. I don't hear Gunner. Wait, can you pull that up, gunner? Let's see. I think we got it right here. Somewhere right here. Yeah. There we go.

What a handsome guy, Huh? Look at that one. He looks like a juvenile delinquent in that way. That's the look I had when I would go to my probation officer. Yeah. Well that's where he probably told you you were going to go if you don't straighten up. Yeah. Right, right. Yeah, I'm like yeah, well I'm not kidding, you know, most, most of the guys that grew up with are no longer with us because but anyway, we'll be with us, but they might not be, they might be behind bars. Sounds like Yeah, so we got, let me see, I'm gonna bring Terry up because I think Terry wants to ask a question here, let me see, Terry, I'm here. All right, you got a question for john and Matthew? Yes, actually it's for john. Um I heard that Sylvester Stallone and uh Mickey Rourke was slated to play axel Foley before Eddie Murphy was is that true? True, That's true. Uh Mickey mickey Rourke was first and then Stallone. And then Eddie and I my my first audition was when Mickey Rourke was doing it and then I auditioned and like, I didn't hear anything for a couple of weeks and then they called me back and I auditioned again when Stallone was doing it. But then Stallone wanted to make it because it was originally a very gritty movie. It was a very great and mickey work was was uh his his best buddy gets killed in Detroit and he goes to Avengers but his death and all that, so it was a very gritty movie and then when Stallone was going to do it, he started to make it, you know, Rambo blows up Beverly Hills or something. And uh so and then he went into Cobra seven and then when Eddie took it then it became a comedy but the script script really new little grip so Uh huh mhm well, yep. Well we lost john All right. But it's pretty amazing man. You know, you think that they have you been anyway, you have changed it like that. It was, it was originally blocked and it's a loan and then it being made it follow. Yeah, he's just, we're just gonna keep him like that. We lost a little bit there john but you know how hard is that for you that if you're reading the script and all of a sudden it changes from like drama action to like comedy was tough for you. Can you hear us john are we back? Yeah, can you hear us? I don't know if you can't hear me. Can you hear me? Matthew, yes, I don't know what happened to johnny disappeared on us. It's colorado you know somebody stole area. Yeah, it's still freezing. That's a really tough thing to do. I mean it never happened to me but to go from mickey Rourke to Stallone to Eddie and obviously the entire movie changed uh the great thing is john was going to do that movie when it was mickey Rourke or Stallone Hello Hello I lost you there I guess? Yeah, we lost you too, can you hear us john hey Gunner, can you type in and tell john to maybe refresh his computer, there is a little circle thing up there. Um Yeah, no, that would be difficult. Right. And I always wonder, I always wondered for you guys. Like I've watched a lot of between you and john have watched a lot of the schizo, you can catch, you know, parts of it all on Youtube so you can watch a bunch of different skits and john plays a lot of different characters and so do they write that into the script? Like you gotta be like this or do you just see the line understand who that character is and then take it off on your own tangent? Well, you, I mean when you get a script and you're, you first get it, you have something in common with that character usually or they wouldn't be seeing you to play that part. Um and then it's a question of making it your own. Uh and obviously working with the director, who is, who is there to pull...

...out that, that performance from you. Uh a lot of times it depends on the director, you'll have a director where you can go to him and say, I think it would be better if I said this and now yeah, that, that is better. There are some directors that go, you know, that's the script, you know, don't now, john is is so legendary that he could probably go to a director and just say this sucks, I'm doing it this way and they would let them. I would think. Yeah, yeah. I mean, well not probably at first, right. I mean when you're young, do they like you when you're young after being a rookie, right? It's like being a rookie, you're not allowed to talk like you just do what we tell you. Yeah, same thing. Um but you know, he, he obviously, you know, when you're starting out, you're so, most people, most actors are so nervous and solution. Yeah. Well, we lost you a long time ago john Yeah, that's right. You've gone back that the winds changed in colorado. So we lost them. That's, it's very possible. I mean, you know, I'm not, he's, I think he's in Fort Collins I think is where join this. Although he travels a great deal now. Um but you know, the uh, I think I told you this to the first movie said I was ever on was Prince of the City and I had, you know, two scenes to do that day. And I, I don't think I've ever been that nervous before or after because I was working with some great actors and one of the best directors that ever lived in Sydney lament and you know, it was, I had nightmares before that first day. I mean, I really could imagine. Um it's pretty amazing phenomenon. That first day of work. Hey, I'm still here. You know, Oh, you are now you're back. Oh, I'm back now. Okay, good. Yeah, I was done. You get sick of us. Yeah, you were all right. You were at alone. Uh you were finishing up, you did it with Rourke and then Stallone and then with Eddie, that's where you well, yeah, I don't know if she's still there or not, but strangely and strangely enough, Matthew and you'll, you'll appreciate this. I got a call for Beverly Hills Cop in 19 like 1983 to something like that and the casting director wanted to meet me. So I went into paramount and met the casting director. She was lovely and I can't remember her name, I'm sorry and I can't remember her name. But she said to me flat out Matthew, she said john there is absolutely nothing in this film for you. But I saw you in the head, Ed Harris do True West at South coast rep and I loved your performance and I just wanted to meet you as an actor. And so I said, well thank you very much and that was the end, you know, that was the end of it. And Eddie Harris and I did True West on the south coast rip and we both both want to drop the logs awards and all that stuff, but she just wanted to meet me and then a couple of weeks later, not even a couple of months later I get a call, it says they want to see you for Beverly Hills cop. So I, I okay. So I go in and they gave me one piece of paper and it was the scene where I punch any in his stomach when I say we don't like the smart mouth kid from out of town and all this stuff. So I read it right and I get done and I don't hear anything for a month, right? And all of a sudden I get a call, they want to see you for Beverly Hills cop. And I said okay, you know, now I didn't switch the Stallone I guess, you know, so I go in, they gave me the same piece of paper, the same scene, I read the scene, boom, thank you very much, I leave, I don't hear anything for another month or so, you know that is Matthew and all of a sudden I get a call, they want to see it for Beverly Hills competition, you gotta be kidding me. So I go in now and he was doing it, you know, So Anyway by the 5th call back uh there were like tons of guys in the, in the hallway and they were mixing and matching people and they by chance put judge and I together and uh they said okay, you too, you too, you too and it was totally by accident. So Judge came over to me and he said, hey man, what do you think of the script And I said, uh I don't, I haven't read the script and he said you ever read the script? And I said, no, they just kept giving me this one page. I said that I don't, I have no idea what this movie is about. So he goes, oh my God, you know, and you know, we got to read together with all the producers and the writers and you know, for the screen to a street test thing and just like, oh my God, So I said,...

...don't worry about it, we'll just wing it, you know, so he goes okay, so we go into the office and there's a guy reading for the captain and me and Judge and marty and then bruckheimer and Simpson and everyone in the room. So I just, you know, we start doing stuff and I'm and living stuff, you know that I finally look at the other guy and I said, can I talk to you alone for a minute and I look at judge and I said I'm going to talk to the capital alone. Judge gonna look too because okay, you know, so I look up, I look up at the guy and they go, can I get another partner because this guy's a real pain in the ask, you know, the whole room cracked up and I got the job because of that, you know, so that is awesome. I have a question for you about it. So you guys probably see like when you watch sports, you hear all about our contracts and the difference between NBA NFL and all that. How does it work in film? Like did they give you options or is it like, you know, this is what we're giving you and that's it like, so that because you hear about, you can take a percentage of what the movie makes or you just Uh huh. Mhm. Hey, head up with Gus listeners manscaped. Well, they sent me uh, they hooked me up with a bunch of tools And formulations for their package 3.0 Kit. So, you know, I want to show you guys what's in the perfect package, right? We all think we've got a perfect package, but they sent me the perfect package, 3.0 kid, I want to show you what they sent me. So it was crazy. It came in this great box. Uh, you know it and you can see what it says. They will thank you because they sent us this awesome trimmer. They sent us, uh, you know, stuff that makes you smell better. And then, uh, you know, they sent me this great uh, some boxers what you get, right, protect them. And then, uh, you know, they sent me this cool it sack, I guess you want to call it to store all your stuff in. So, uh, it's been great man scape sent me a bunch of product, um, you know, and you know, you can see it all on here. Uh, you know, if you can go to Manscaped dot com and put in the code, uh, gus Frerotte, that's G U S F R E R O T T E get 20% off and free shipping when you use that code. But you can get a kit, you can get individual items like, uh, this way, cool rumor that has a little led light, um, ceramic. These things come apart, they're waterproof, you can do a lot with them. So, you know, Manscaped is great. You know, it's funny, I remember when I was playing with the Denver broncos and I'm not going to mention any names, but there was a gentleman who was playing on our team and you know, if you ever hears the story, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. But he brought his own clippers in one time and he used it to trim his beard up, his goatee and everything and he had him there for about two or three weeks and he goes in around the corner, he walks in and there's a person, another player that is actually manscaping with his beard trimmer. So you know, one of the things is, you don't want to use the same trimmer down there that you use up here. So, uh, he kind of freaked out a little bit. He said, hey, how long have you been using that tool there? And he said, well, showed up here about three weeks ago and I've been using it ever since. So you know, there is a lesson learned that, you know, don't leave things out and probably, uh, if it would have just said manscaped on it, uh, we wouldn't have had that issue, but it's probably one of the funniest, uh, taking care of your ball stories I've ever heard or been around in the locker room in the NFL. So, uh, it's a great story. Um, but you know, I always said there was no way to know, there's no name on it and the guy was just using it and another guy was using, it was not good, but it's a heck of a funny story. So one of the best I've ever heard in my 15 years playing in the league. Um, but you know, there's so many great things about manscaped and what they're doing, uh, because guys, you got to take care of yourself even though I got great hair um, and getting older, but you still have to maintain some sort of grooming, right? And so, you know, we all work out for me, I like working in my yard doing those things now that I'm retired, getting little sweat on and everything you want to smell good, you know, you got to take care of yourself, they got some great products. It, um, but you know, this one, uh, a little uh, ball deodorant, we'll need that here...

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...in the NFL, we can get, we can get really guys, people don't understand like we can really get screwed over in the NFL because it's almost a one way contract. Yeah. Crazy. Well, you know, gosh, I don't know if you agree with me or not, but I've always felt with my business and sports business, I've always felt that everyone should be involved in the revenue of the product that that One guy shouldn't be making 25 million and the other guys making 10,000, They should all all be at an equal level and you get, you get bonuses everything, let's say the box office goes to $10,000, million. Everybody gets a piece of that. It goes to 20 million. Everybody gets a piece. Like if you win 20 games as a pitcher, you get so much more money, you know, so it's, I, I just think both of our businesses should be based on production and, and, and quality and what you bring, you know, if you're, if you're very successful, everybody should enjoy, enjoy that success. I think that's so, that's so true. So Like when you, when I go in and be a backup quarterback and the starter is making 10 million I get bei sally, which was 850,000 and then I end up playing in 12 games, there's no bone, you know, there was no bonus. So this guy is just sitting on the bench and I'm like, why don't you give me what he's supposed to get me? Right. So all right, john john we got another question here from Armando he wants to know. Um, Yeah, I'm sure you remember some kind of wonderful, did he know it would become one of the greatest 80s movies of all time, when when you were shooting it? No, no, I didn't, I don't believe me. I don't think in those terms of Matthew knows this as an actor. I don't, I don't, I don't go on the sets going, oh, I'm going to be a star from this or I'm gonna, this is gonna win an Academy Award or I go and do my job, I going to do my job and let the chips fall where they may. I mean, I don't think of those things, I really don't and there's actually a funny story when I was doing cop too Beverly Hills because I did some kind of wonderful after Beverly Hills cop. And then we were shooting Beverly Hills cop two and they were editing some kind of wonderful because I did it right before we started that. Well I get a call and they say we gotta reshoot a scene and some kind of wonderful. And I was on the set for Beverley Hills cop right, our cop too. So they were both paramount pictures and they wanted to reshoot the bedroom scene that I had with eric Because I mentioned the earrings and that he spent $10,000 on these earrings and when they screened it for an audience, the audience couldn't believe that he would pay $10,000 from a working class family. So we had to just change that one section of the scene. So I had to go over to the other sound stage when I was shooting cop too run over and re shoot some kind of wonderful bedroom scene. And I had two trailers on the lot and john Ratzenberger who plays Cliff the mailman on, cheers. He comes over to me and he goes, you're the only actor that's got two trailers on the lock, you know, because I had to have one for each show, you know, so it was very funny. Did you have the stash in both movies? I don't think I had it in some kind of wonderful. Yeah, so like, maybe I did, I don't know if you're filming another movie that you have a certain and then all of a sudden you gotta go change it. Look, is that just make up? And they say, well then I must have had it in some kind of wonderful then, because they didn't, I couldn't grow in the day. That's just you're so cut it, cut it and grow it. But and, you know, it was it was it was a great john Hughes was terrific. I did two movies with him after that. I did uh she's having a baby with Kevin Bacon after that. John was very, very loyal to him. Who is the guy like Matthew was talking about Fanboy and over somebody who was, there's been somebody that you worked with and you were like, this is really cool. Like this guy I've always wanted to work with them or like, I watched one of his movies always wanted to meet him, you know, I don't I don't really get I don't get odd by, you know, I mean, I'm, you know, I've worked with some terrific value Deniro and and you know, Anthony Hopkins and I work with you just uh well the great thing the great thing about Hopkins I was doing a movie with him and cuBA. Gooding Jr and I walked on the set the first day and I looked at cuBA and I said is it cuba or cuBA? And he goes to cuBA and I said okay thank you. Is it sir, Anthony Mr Hopkins Mr Anthony what is it? He goes Tony. I go great john let's go to work.

I love it. I love it. So I gotta so for both of you guys like I was kind of like a prankster in the locker room. All right I love to pull pranks on me because I always felt like I always felt like yeah I always felt like the laughter you get and I wouldn't do it to people that didn't like it but I knew I get to know people but you guys have that like did you ever work with somebody who was always a prankster or joking around with everybody or pulling pranks on them while you were on set or you know in the background. I don't know him I'll tell you I I don't think I ever worked with an actor that way. But I worked with crew members that did that and when crew members did it to you they were usually really good pranks. Yeah they have all they had all the time if you had a prop guy that was a practical joker and you were filming the scene and there was some rubber poop where there wasn't supposed to be or I mean those are the times that, that you really remember and those, the crew, the crew at john's the same way the crew, that's my guys and women john absolutely. That's the thing I miss most about not acting anymore is my time with the crew and any time they had a chance I came here is there's a great story. I went to, I was doing uh my sitcom on Fox called duet And in 1987 and I went to, I got an okay to take a week off from the show. No, we had a week break and I went to new york to go to the World series, the Mets, we're Playing 86, The Mets World Series. So I leave for a week and we were shooting on the stage at paramount and we have the back hall behind where the sets are are all the dressing rooms, one next to another. It's like a hotel with four is going down and I come back from being in new york for that week and I say hello to everybody and I go make a left to go down the hall to my dressing room which was in the middle of the hall and here's Allison's dressing room, Here's mary pages dressing room. My dressing room is gone in the week week that I loved, They clasp or boarded over it. They painted over and everybody, the whole crew were looking around the corner to see my reaction for when I came down the hall. I mean they look doing stuff like that. I've done that to a rookie before. We'll see rookie hazing. I'm sure that's normal. Yeah. So we had, I was playing in Denver, we had this rookie lineman Ben, I can't remember Ben's last name. Um, so everybody leaves after practice. I go and clean out his whole locker, take his name, tag everything and I take one of our stalls in the bathroom and I make that his new locker and and he comes in the next morning and he's like, where's my stuff? And all the linemen, they knew what I was doing. They were like, I don't know. So he's looking all over and somebody said like you better go look in there and he goes in and that's his locker, looks just like his locker had was out there and all the linemen made him use that as his locker for the rest of the week. Come on man. Just a little rookie. That wasn't as bad as I've heard before. The one, the one prank that was done to me that it was very dangerous actually. And uh, I was doing a play in L. A. And it was a hit play. It was called the last meeting of the knights of the white magnolia and it ran, it ran for nine months. It was a big hit. I mean everybody, I mean Charlton Heston would come back to my dressing room after the show and I mean, you know, Neil Simon came to my dress, I was like, oh him, oh him, you know, he was only a god to me, you know? But uh a little bit Matthew a little bit, I wouldn't, but but in the play I played this this alcoholic guy, right? And we're having the meeting of the Knights of the White Magnolia, we're gonna initiate a new member and stuff. So there was no drinking and none of that. So I'm like getting the shakes during the, during the run of the play because I'm in this meeting and I want to get out and go have a drink and stuff. And finally I find this bottle this point the whiskey. And I tell everybody to get away from me, get away from me, you know? And I start chugging this point, right? So, you know, of course it's coca cola, you know? But so one night the stage manager puts real booze in the thing, right? And I got to chug this whole point, which is, that would kill me, I...

...mean, so I soon as I got it to here I went, oh my God, you know, So I started to try to use it as spraying it around to everybody yelling at people and stuff. But you know that was dangerous. And I went to the stage manager after that, had a little talk with him after, let's put it that you're playing defensive end and making him the quarterback at that point you definitely. So we gotta head gus gus where were you with the broncos when we devote there in 2000 and 1, 2000, 2000 and one. So that year in um 2001 when the Raiders are not the rating, but the Ravens won the Super Bowl, we played them in the first game of the playoffs, first game, you know, after the season and the playoffs in Baltimore and that was probably the best defense I've ever played against that year when they had all the big, they were really good. So um and we had a really good team, it's just their defense was darn good, like that was a tough team. I mean they they walloped everybody. Oh wait, you were you were after john then, right? Yeah, yeah, so John was before me um brian greasy and I were there together and then, but you know, there were still kind of hold over is that john knew he didn't come around the facility too much but like Gary Kubiak who was, what was my quarterback was my offensive coordinator and quarterback coach, right? Gary's got we we must have met somewhere because john's a friend of mine and Gary's a friend of mine and I used to play the golf tournament that Denver the broncos golf tournaments down here and stuff. Yeah. Which, which course was it? Because there's some amazing courses out there. The one off the one off of the Arapaho Road, we used to play, Oh yeah, I can't remember the name, but it's so much fun playing out there because you feel like a pro golfer because you can hit it like 3 40 in that. Denver I tell Matthew that every time I go back to Kentucky, I idiot, get used to the air, I'm used to 5000 ft, you know? Yeah, sea level. This is great. One summer I did. I never think about this. This is amazing. One summer I spent outside Salt Lake City Doing a very famous 1950s musical called I do I do. That is two people a man and a woman for about an hour and a half on stage. I can't believe I did that. I am so talented. It's just, anyway, how long did it take? How long did it take you to memorize the script? Uh actually all kidding aside, that was one thing I was always very fortunate about. Um, I had it, I could learn scripts and and parts really easily. I didn't always remember him when I got on stage, but for the most part I was, but anyway that I lived about a half mile from a golf course for the whole summer in a place called helper Utah outside Salt Lake City. And so during I played golf every day and then I would do the show at night and the same thing. I mean you're up near Salt Lake City and I'm hitting my seven iron to 20 you know, I'm like up there every day and I've never hit us, you never hit a seven iron to 20 in your life. You could be, you could be on the freaking moon and you wouldn't hit a 2 20 okay. Maybe it's live part, okay. Maybe it's driver. Anyway, let's just say I hated a lot further and I was there for two months and then the show ended and I get in my car and I drive back to L. A. And I go to play probably at Griffith Park and I'm like, what the hell is this? I can't play golf like this anymore. It was horrible. I know exactly what you mean, john exactly. Uh there's a course out there that the owner of Remax owns. I don't know if you ever played that one, john yeah, many times, many times and it is like that one, it's like 1000 ft drop and there's a herd of elk always on it. It was, it's just one of my favorite course I've ever played and just sanctuary. You're talking about sanctuary. Yeah, it's like the par five, it's a dogleg, right and you just tee it high and let it rip. And I mean I've had, I've hit him 3 80 there, you know? And I'm thinking like in my head like, man, that's a long way. And then you see these guys on regular sea level, what's his name hitting it 400 like it's nothing. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. So john, what do you have going on now? What are you up to? Well there there is serious talk going on about Beverly hills cop four. So I'm waiting here on that and you know, there's covid thing kind of screwed things up. And I have a movie that just came out that I did with Bruce Dern called death in texas and we shot that down in New Mexico and uh, and then I have a movie that came out a few years ago. Once upon a river taken from the book and that's out on,...

...you can stream all those. So right, right now I'm just, you know, waiting to hear about cop four evidently. I'm hope I'm in it. I mean, I don't know if I'm in it, but uh, I talked to judge the other day and neither one of us are attached to it yet, but I talked to him the other day and he said, oh yeah, hey, we'll do this and we'll do that. We'll do this and I'll go judge, we've got the freaking jab yet hold it. I just want you to create this thing where you fall in the pool. Oh yeah. You know, I did that like 10 times. Yeah, that was, that was the prank they played on you. You just didn't know it. They just kept saying, do it again. Yeah. Well every time they change camera and goes, you gotta go get a dry suit, go do it again. You know, I can imagine, I can imagine what you've been doing it for so long and I'm so happy you're still doing it. Uh It's been amazing to have you as a guest on the show. I can't thank Matthew enough for for asking you to come on. I mean, I'm sorry that we had a little faux pas in the beginning, but now we got to where we needed to go. Um And if anybody out there wants to go find john you go to his right? You have a website, john ashton dot com. Yeah, I haven't, I haven't updated it. I heard your sister gets really mad at you for that. Yeah. How'd you know that she does she? How did you know that? I don't want more than you should be able to read a defense anymore, but I can find out. So she said to make sure that you update that because I know what you're doing. Yeah, I know, I know. What do you john do you know what Matthew's doing nowadays? Uh He's working at the radio station in mexican right in that amazing that he has a he has a sports talk radio show, He has a golf show. I mean, Matthew, that's pretty amazing that with your career, the circles you've been, because it's tough to do. I've been there. It is. I'm the only there it is. That's uh look at that goofy picture. Um You must be the one to pick that. No, actually I'm not and I will talk to somebody about that soon as I get Anyway. Um it's been, you know, I, I've always said I have been the most blessed person to be able to have the acting career I did, and then to go sit behind coach K at Duke for 10 years doing radio now, being on ESPN radio and you know, talking about sports and you know, it's just, it's been it's been pretty amazing. I'm really lucky and you're really good at it. So I've been on your show, it's, it's amazing and it's a lot of fun. Well, thanks guys, I got a suggestion for you. Matthew, get you're on the high wire and put that on that poster to Matthew, that's you. Yeah, wait till he sees this picture. We, hey john you know what we need to do, we need to make it into a gift. So it's just like going back and forth? Uh and put it on the cover for you. We don't know. No, we don't, no, no, alright, we don't john look at his face like uh like that was kind of scary. Yeah. So the other thing we gotta do. Matthew is we gotta get john down in Kentucky. Yeah. You know, we got to play some golf and then we'll get him on the tour with us. Yeah, good night of that. Oh hell. Believe me. He'll do the bourbon tour. Believe me. Yeah, Gus is coming legs intention and we're going to play golf and do the bourbon tour in the spring. Okay, john, Yeah. Alright. Thanks john what's your favorite uh, Ashton movie? Well, the two, I mean our legendary are obviously cop Midnight run is one of my absolute favorite movies of, of all time. I mean, I've seen it 30 times and it's just the most everything about it is incredible. Everything about it. Every performance, uh, the script, everything about it is, I just obviously, like I said, the cop movies are fantastic, but for me, Midnight Run is yes. Okay. So john, I got one question if we can get serious for a second because it's all in the news right now and you've, you've been on sets where you've handled guns and all that and it's what a shame that happened to alec baldwin right? Like, Like how does that, how does that even happen? I mean, I couldn't imagine what he's going through right now.

Well I can't, I've worked with alec when he did his first tv series called cutter to Houston was Shelley hack and I was a regular regular on that and I sort of worked with alec and Danny. I've done a couple of movies with his brother Danny. So we're pretty good friends and uh I can't imagine what he's going through man, you know uh I've got I've got some pretty good guesses that I'm sure Matthew does to how that happened but from you know I'm like ugh it's everything I read. So I'm trying to decipher what's really true and what's not but you know you have to trust the people around you right like you when you were when you were handling a shotgun like in midnight run, you know and you're putting the rounds in there, you're putting the the shotgun shells in there, you know, you're trusting that there's really nothing in them. Oh yeah. Yeah I mean you've got there's a certain amount of trust but there's also got to be a certain amount of uh your own responsibility to you know, I mean what what I'm on a set because I I know guns a little bit so um and the prop guys, I you know I respect them totally and and uh I always tell them do not hand me the weapon until the camera is rolling. Not not when they say get ready because they say get ready and then they hand everybody these loaded guns and then somebody wants to tweak a light and they go wait a minute we gotta do this now, there's a bunch of people standing around with loaded guns and I don't like that because a lot of people don't know about guns and they, they think their toys and they're not and so I tell the prop guy do not hand me that weapon until the cameras rolling and give it to me on safety, I will take the safety off when they yell, cut, I will hand you this weapon right back and so stand right here off camera and I'm gonna hand it right back now, some people don't do that and believe me and I'm not gonna name names, but I've been around a lot of them, they start firing the guns and thinking they're toys and and it freaks me out. Just your football mentality coming back there when they're doing that stuff Oh yeah, back to your old high school coach, Yeah, so I feel bad for alec but but and evidently it happened during a rehearsal, it didn't even happen during a shot, so he shouldn't even had a loaded gun at all for a rehearsal. Apparently there was a lot of other stuff going on before that then that's just that incident, so it's horrible. I there were a couple of jobs I had where I had to fire a weapon, one of them a lot and that was Popeye Doyle that I did with that o'neill and those prop guys, I mean we're talking about in new york playing cops, all this stuff, I never saw the weapon, I mean we would rehearse with prop guns, rubber guns, rubber guns, rubber guns, I never saw a weapon as john said until right before action was said they would walk over, take it out of their bag that they carry it in and hand it to me and that was it. And and they'll show you they usually show you the chamber and tell you yeah. So do you think you think this will make you have a lot of changes happen now because of that? Well I think you could hope so. I hope so. But I think a lot of it was they were on a tight schedule, they were rehearsing. I mean they were I think I read they had a 21 day shooting schedule and I've been on those, those schedules when I did my I did my tv series hardball and we had a lot of weapons on that And we were working 1516 hours a day and I mean I'm telling you get tired after a while and you start losing your concentration and and and that's I've always felt that I did a movie in France was dry Depardieu who was a big star over there, just him. Yeah, well I owe him but but we did this movie and we worked eight hours a day, that was it, that was it. And I mean you got to the set, they had breakfast for you there, you started your work at noon, you didn't start, you didn't start till noon and you got there at 8 11 and had a little brunch or something, start at noon around four or five o'clock. They bring a card over with bagels and you know, all these french food and you go, you go make yourself a sandwich, you know, and there was, there was no break. You work eight straight hours at eight o'clock rap God, then you had time to go home to your family, have a dinner that...

...night. I mean it was rarely really and they got it done in the same amount of time. And then I went back to the states again and I started kind of going, man, you go, so I went over to new Zealand to do a movie and it was the same thing 14 hours a day and out of the woods at three in the morning and the freezing rain and you know what? I'm going, you guys don't have a clue man, but they France was so wonderful. It's multi civilized, civilized. Exactly, exactly. No, I thought so. One last question for you, john, what's your favorite John Ashton movie or one that you're most proud of? I gotta say midnight run. You know, it was, it was not only a great script. We had a great cast, we were on the road six months doing that movie. We started literally started, started in new york and worked our way across the country and and uh we became really close family, you know, and uh and it was the experience was great. Uh I loved playing Marvin door floor. I mean I just melted into that character and uh I didn't feel like a thinking about a funny story, There's a scene, there's a scene where the two mob guys take bobby and chuck into the alley and he got him in the alleyway and then I pull up in the car and shoot the shotgun and knock him out and speak into the microphone and do all that stuff. I love that scene, well we get it there in the morning and I say to marty, what do you want to do this? And he goes well you just walk across the street with your with the shack and hold it to your side and walk across the street toward the alley. And I said marty that's boring man, He goes well what do you want to do? And I said I want to drive into the shot and shoot the shotgun out man. So he goes great idea. So we stopped out everything and they built this ramp for five hours, you're building all this stuff and you know, but that's why I love marty brest the director, he just gave us so much freedom and Tika took her ideas and you weren't just some robot out the actor out there throwing lines out, he really lets you create that character, you know what a great character it was, he did the same in Beverly Hills cop I mean and probably he directed the first cop marty brest, he's a wonderful director and like I said before that that script was was still the same gritty script that that mickey Rourke and Stallone had, but now we got a comedian and now we start changing things and and marty loved the chemistry with me and Judge and we shoot a scene where it said Taggart and Rosewood wait in the car and Judge and I would sit in the car and look at the window, drink our coffee and shoot that like two or three times you go okay we got that now you guys just play with it. So the next take and Judge literally had a magazine in the car that he was reading in between takes, so he goes okay you guys just do something now and he rolls the Cameron. Judge picked up the magazine, he goes, wow, did you know by the time you're 50 years old, there's £12 of undigested meat in your system and I go why are you telling me that? What, what makes you think I have any interest in that at all? He goes well you eat a lot of meat, you know, and that was all that lib stuff, you know that marty gave us the freedom to do that, you know, oh, that's awesome, That's awesome. That's probably what makes you the most happy when you, when you, when you can be an actor and have that kind of freedom. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, we're not robots, give us to get you hired us for our talent, let us let us use it. You know, let us create, you know, It's amazing that when you watch a movie that where they make them robots, you can tell it right away. Yeah, well, you were talking about, you know, being awed by certain actors and stuff. Well, when Midnight Run came up, I was at a play, I was watching Joey pantoliano, do a play and a good friend. And I had an intermission came up to me and said, well you're gonna do Midnight Run, aren't you? I go, I don't know, I haven't read it. You know, my cracker Jack agency, I go I go, I don't know, I don't know anything about it. He goes, oh, you're perfect for it. Uh This was alan vince, I don't know if you remember Alan uh Matthew. But anyway, uh I called my agent. So what's the deal and they go, well, yeah, you'd be good in it and I go, hello, You know, so I get a get a hold of marty and he goes, oh you'd be great in it. He goes, well, you got an audition, you know? And I go, well I got an audition for you marty, I said, you know, you know Beverly Hills got together, he goes it's not me, it's bobby, he wants to audition with everybody. And I learned I learned a good lesson from him then. So I said okay, that'd be great, that'd be great. So I go to the audition, of course, there's 50 people out there, you know, in the hallway and everybody's freaking out, you know, Well I got to read with the Nero, I gotta read with Deniro and I'm like out there going man I couldn't wait I go I I couldn't wait to go work, you know,...

...read with them, you know? And and I said to myself, nobody's getting this part of me, this is my part, this is my role, nobody. So I go in there and bobby is there and we go high and nice to meet you blah blah blah. So marty goes okay we'll start to see, so we start the scene and uh bobby goes, they had me some matches, he picks up some matches and goes to hand them to me. So I I go to get him and he drops him on the floor and he stares at me and I looked at him, I go f you when he goes f you to go after yourself. And uh he wanted me to pick him up and Anderson and I looked at him and I said I ain't picking those up. So I found, I found out later when I walked out George gallery, the writer told me it was Tuesday walked out, bobby said I want him because he wanted he wanted some of his stand up to him, yeah and I'll guarantee every other actor picked him up and said oh you're mr Deniro and I looked at him, I go and I looked at him and my nephew, we got along great and you know, I mean when you and actually I was supposed to get killed halfway through that movie in the original script and then marty said after about a month or two or shooting, marty said we can't kill door flor, everybody will hate us. So we got to the scene, so now they put me into the scene at the airport at the end and all that stuff. But originally I was supposed to be shot in Vegas when the bad guys, I showed him a picture of growing and they see the towels at a hotel and they know where he is and they shoot me in the original script, they just shoot me. So now we get to film and that that scene and marty comes over to me, he goes, hey man, he said, you know you're supposed to get killed in the scene and now you don't die. He said what are we going to do? And I said, have him knocked me out and he goes, oh great idea. Okay, that's how it works, that's how it works. Oh man, this has been incredible. I loved it. I loved it. And I thank you both for joining me today. I don't want to keep you too long but and it's just an incredible show and hopefully you guys can come back and we're gonna build this platform up and we're gonna make it bigger and bigger and get more fans on and to come and be a part. You're doing a good job. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I'm just sitting here. It's nice. I get to sit in my house and do it. Oh wow, cool. Matthew has to go into work any time john Ashton is on the show from now on. I won't be there. Yeah. Hey john said he won't either after he sees that uh, you'll be doing the show yourself because okay, handle that. I can handle that. Well, I appreciate you guys joining me on huddle up with gus. It's been amazing. We got any more questions whenever asked you who's your, who's your football team? Who's my football team? The Giants? The Giants are from Connecticut Yeah, I mean I'm a yankee fan and a Giants fan just like me. Yes, I like playing, I played in a golf tournament yesterday, an NFL alumni tournament. It was all Giants. So harry Carson, howard Cross, you know? Yeah, the good Giants. Yeah, yeah, I was the only, I was only Washington guy there. So I found a little out of place when they called my name, I thought I was going to get hit by somebody. Well straight hand wasn't there? So you are? Yeah, yeah, that's worth it. Ever took Well I was just, I was just back in Long Island about two weeks ago for joan a men's tournament. So uh yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh well no, this is a glen oaks, They didn't play Bethpage this year. They headed at glen oaks and I told him, I told him I said look before he comes to the term, I just wanna let you know, I'm a giant, a Jets fan, we laughed about it, everything was good and I sat and had dinner with joe and it was great, it was amazing or what? I interviewed him maybe a month ago and he was just, I mean he's from Pittsburgh and he's one of my idols growing up and you know about joe. Pittsburgh kid goes to Alabama, but just to interview him and sit here and talk to him about everything like I'm talking with you guys was amazing to me, but I was and boy, you know, he came up to me as soon as he, you know the first time we met there and he walked over to me and gave me a big hug and he says, man, you've done a lot of good stuff man and I said well thanks joe thanks to you. If you ever want pantyhose john uh have you ever worn Pantyhose Joe might have one up on you. Uh I wouldn't admit it if I did all your buddies from high school. Don't ever want to hear you say that you did. Yeah, well, alright guys, I appreciate you have a good night when you guys having for dinner. Uh Pizza. Probably. It's what I have every night. I'm lonely tonight. So...

...what about you Jon? I think I'm going to cook a little pasta with some meat sauce tonight. Thanks everyone. Thanks. Thank Matthew, I'll talk to you later. Thank you. Gus, thank you. I appreciate you so much. Uh Yeah, thanks everyone for joining me uh for Hello up with Gus, we'll see you next week. I think Mario Andretti is coming on next week, so it's gonna be great. So thank you. Sounder F. M Thank you to super event and uh thank you to everyone who helps me out with this. I appreciate you. And we'll see you next week and that's a wrap sports fan. Thanks for joining in the fun at the 16 31 digital studios for another Actually, huddle up with Gus featuring 15 year NFL quarterback. Gus parent huddle up with Gus is proudly produced by 16 31 Digital media and is available on apple music.

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