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Episode · 4 weeks ago

John Ashton & Mathew Laurance

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Welcome to Huddle Up with Gus, with 15-year NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte! It’s a packed show today as Gus welcomes two great actors, John Ashton and Matthew Laurance. From Beverly Hills Cop and Midnight Run to Saturday Night Live and Eddy and the Cruisers, Gus takes these two characters through their careers on up to how they see the world today. Matthew amps up his comedic wit to nuclear strength as the trio give politics, the latest on the gridiron and the state of the nation a hard once-over. Buckle up that chinstrap sport, because you’re about to get into one huge pileup!

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Fanboy ish, I think even if I didn'tact it because of the respect and admiration I have for him as an actor.Now, once I got to know him as a person, not all changed, but the acting part ofit was pretty special to me. So it's, it's an honor for me john to be on anyplatform with you since I never got to act with you, which is just a travestyof a mockery of a sham, but I wanted to get that out of the way and now youguys go go, well you have that john well, Matthew, thank you very much andgoodnight everybody, thank you, that's it, Show's over, Show's over. Great!Well yeah, we'll see you uh no, that was great, thank you, Matthew, it is it,you know, it is wonderful when you get to meet the people that have come kindof before you are in that peer group that you're in, like that's how I feltwhen I met terry Bradshaw because that was always my idol growing up here inPittsburgh and watching him play and that's why I had the number 12, so johnwhat do you think about, how does that make you feel? And Matthew talks aboutyou like that? Well, I mean, I don't know, I'm speechless, but that, thatwas fantastic, Matthew, thank you and you know, I respect you as an actor too.I mean you've done some wonderful things, you know, and uh, I think thefirst time we met was playing golf at Los robles in 1000 Oaks, I think waswhen we, when we used to have to thursday group to thursday things, Ithink, I think that's where we met and uh, I've always respected you as anactor and thought you were terrific and I think you should still be doing it, Ikeep bugging you about it, but uh anyway, uh, I don't know what to say,thank you man, I never, I never, I never knew you felt that way, but nowthat I know that I'm never talking to you again, so john what do you think,what do you think is better uh, Matthews acting or Matthews golf game,because I've been trying to figure this out since we've met, well, you know,acting in golf for a lot of like, you know, I mean, you got your good daysand you got your bad days, you know, sometimes sometimes they use sometimesthey use that take you wish you hadn't, they used, you know, and sometimes youcan think and sometimes you can take that part back to, you know, so youknow, they're kind of similar to the one thing and we were talking aboutthis, the one thing about our profession as actors and being golferswe have probably seen and done more things in the world than I would haveever ever been able to do had I not been an actor or a golfer, I likemeeting Matthew, I mean you just go out on the golf course, you meet thesepeople, you become friends, I mean Jim McMahon and I are great friends and wemet during a golf tournament, you know, we've been friends for 20 years now andI'm going to see him actually in the two weeks down in Florida, but uh, it'sjust, it's amazing how our profession and the game of golf has been able ableme to see the world that I, that I would have never seen, had I not chosenthe craft that I chose. I also think that, you know, us as players can't dowhat you guys do and maybe you guys can come and do what we do, but you reallydon't want to, it's like being in a car wreck all the time and golf, golf is agood mediator for us to go out, have fun, you know, not play a sport that'scrazy, physical, but you can have a lot of fun doing it and it is a great wayto meet people. Well, you know, I think us, I think we obviously talked aboutthis when I was on last time, but I have said I've talked about how golfchanged my life when I started playing, but what, what john is talking about,like he casually says, you know, Jim McMahon has been, I think I told youthe very first celebrity tournament I played in, I went to play the practiceround and I got over to the cart and turned the bag tag over and it saidBart starr for me. I mean I was this guy from new york, I mean I grew up inYankee Stadium watching the Giants play and Bart Starr, I couldn't talk forfive holes, I couldn't, I kept looking at him and going, it's art star. I meanall all are we all wanted to be athletes. Every actor wanted, right?Yeah, right. But because of golf we have gotten to be friendly with ourheroes with guys that we idolize all...

...over the world, we get to play withthem. So start you mentioned Bart Starr Matthew and I played the Vince Lombarditournament at Mille walked out outside of Milwaukee and I was in my hotel andwe were getting ready to go over to the golf course and I get in the elevator,the elevator door opens the birth stars there and I went holy cow, that's burst,don't worry, we would all do that, we would all do well. So does that makeyou guys pretty competitive like, okay, I'm going to play with Bart Starr,right? And now I have a chance to beat part start and something you got to.You just like happy to be no, no, no, you just don't want to embarrassyourself in front of you. Let me hit the ball in front of our star. You'reso what does that, what does the word? It's like when all the fans are linedup along, you know because some of these programs, you know, there'speople lined up along the tee box. What is harder for you guys? Is it hittingthe ball to all those people there are hitting in front of somebody that likelike a Bart Starr hitting in front of Bart Starr becauseif you hit one of those people big deal right, you just give them your golfclub and they're okay. We got a big goose egg, but it'll be all right. Youknow, the first time this is funny though, the first time I played in theCrosby in north Carolina which was the absolute biggest golf tournament any ofus ever played in. It was three days, 2 man teams, hundreds of people there. Mybrother Mitchie had played in it, but the year before and he said to mebefore I came, when you get to the first tee, ask your the guy you'replaying with to put the ball on the tee for you. Make a joke. I said, what areyou talking about? He said, I'm telling you your hand will be shaking, There'llbe 300 people behind the teeth and you won't be able to put the ball on theteeth. And I got there, I said sure I got there and went to I could tell Icouldn't do it. So I called Woody over and I said I'm a star, put the ball onthe team. My hand was shaking. There were so many people there and were evenif we're good, we ain't that good, we don't do it for a living for goodnesssake. So You know, for me, I would rather hit a ball in front of Bartstarr than 200 people. That's just me. Yeah, well I mean it is like even ifyou screw up in front of Bart starts one person, but the other people,they're probably not because they have their phone out back then nobody makinga picture of anything, You know, I remember a lot of those days, so johnlet me let me get to, you were born in Springfield, Mass. And how long did youlive there before you went to high school in Connecticut? Well we moved to Connecticut when I wassix months old. So I was born in spring. Yeah, so I mean I was only six monthsold, we moved, it's only right across the border, it's only five miles awaythe border in Springfield and Enfield where I grew up right on the border,five miles apart from each other. And uh um yeah, so I I grew up in Enfieldand you know, did you play, did you play sports growing up? Yeah, I playedfour years of football in high school and two years in college. How aboutthat? How about that? Science? Right? He went to defiance,defiance college. Yeah, we remind my first year we were nine and oh and uhyeah, we had a really good team, Kirk Kirk me was our coach and he was reallystrict and he eventually went to Wisconsin and then he went to theWashington Redskins after that. But I got a question. Yeah, you froze. Yeah. What do you think? Oh,sorry about that. So I want everybody out there to try and guess whatposition john played in in football. So put it in the chat Matthew, whatposition do you think john played? Oh, he was absolutely a slot receiverbecause he was very thin and not that tall. Alright, It was a big guy. I'm soI know he was, I'm saying he was you were an offensive lineman. I think hewas a linebacker right there. Gabe said, Mike, backer, Gunner said why dan saidwide receiver. Gunner said free safety, I think you play defense. Uh but Idon't know if anybody else you're right, I was a defensive end and linebacker,but I also like quarterbacks. But you know, in those days gus because you'retoo young to notice. But in in those days we were both ways. We playedoffense Andy yeah, we played office and...

...defense. And when I was in high schoolI never left the field from the kickoff to the end of the game, I was on thepunt team, the kickoff team, offense, defense. I never left the field. Whatwere we in? My high school coach was was a D. I. Instructor in the marinesand he was a tough dude and we have your face. Oh yeah, I got a funny storyfor you. I had rheumatic fever when I was a kid, you know, when I was alittle, so I would have to get my heart checked every now and then. So I missedpractice one day because I had to go get my heart checked. So I don't thinkthat I go to the practice the next day. He goes, Ashton, where were youyesterday? And I didn't want to tell him, you know? So I said, well, youknow, I had some things in blah blah blah, blah blah. And he goes, come on,where were you? So I finally told him, look coach, I had rheumatic fever rightinto my heart checked every now and then he goes four laps. So I go ontothe track, which is a quarter mile track, four laps is a mile full gearAnd every time I go by the cross finish line, he's yelling at me. How's yourheart, Ashton? How's your heart? So I got a great story like that john mike.So my father in law was my high school football coach and harry sounds like alot of like your coach and I missed a practice because I had to go to thedentist. My mom's like, you got to go to the dentist, right? And I'm like,okay, I'll go and, and then I'm walking into practice and I'm about an hour anda half late. I'm just d be bopping in like no big deal on the quarterback,whatever. He's yelling from Hallway like two fields over and I can hear himand he's just yelling. My last, what do you think? This is anybody? You canjust come anytime you want the same thing. I get my pads on. I come out andhe's waiting for me. I didn't run laps. I did bear crawls and Barrel rolls, 200yards each. Never missed another practice again. That's just how theywere back then, right? I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. Well, uh, Matthew was kindof hinting on this before, but I got into acting because I was a juveniledelinquent. I mean, you know when I grew up, I was, we were stealing carsand breaking into hardware stores. I mean, done some, don't be so hard foryou stealing, oh, anything that would run, you know, it was like, and I had aprobation officer, I was in jail. I mean it was and uh, hello, you still,there were still there. Okay, okay. So I mean, I mean I was really, so I'mwalking down my hallway in my school and then the director and the directorof our high school came up to me and said, you want to be in a play and Isaid, yeah, sure, you know, and uh it ended up being Oklahoma, I played judgeFrye and I won best actor and all of a sudden I got a call to go into theHartford stage company to do a walk on thing and a fellow and, and uh Anyway,I was 2:00 AM, we're rehearsing, I'm watching some in the audience, watchingthe other actors and I really said to myself, you know, I could be out on thestreet getting in trouble right now. Instead I'm sitting here learningsomething, you know, and, and then I gave the speech to my undergraduate uh,and that was during the Vietnam war and I saw everybody laughing and enjoyingthemselves and I said, this is what I want to do, I want to take people outof away from all the crap that's going on in the world and entertain peopleand, and this is my social work and uh, that's when I decided to be an actorand even when I went to college, I went to defiance. I played football, but itwas also in the theater and uh, I was in Cape Cod was doing summer stock. Iwas making 25 bucks a week and room and board and I had a wife and a four monthold baby and I said to myself, you know, I could be the greatest actor in theworld, but who the hell is going to know it in defiance. Ohio, you know, SoI applied the USC and I got accepted in the drama program there and I quitfootball and just devoted myself to my craft. That was probably pretty hard toquit football. I mean it is, but in college it's a lot more work than highschool. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, Kirk me was tough. We were doing three days allthe time. And actually I wanted, I wanted to switch the fullback, I wantedto play fullback and we already had a guy and you know, so, but you know, Iwanted to dedicate myself to, I said, look, I'm not going to make a livingdoing playing football. I knew that then when this was 1968, and I said, and I said, I want toconcentrate on what I want to do for the rest of my life. Well, those guysback then didn't make that much of a living anyway. No, no, not at all.There were probably a lot of guys that could have played, but didn't becausethey probably made more money working in the mill or doing something else,you know, $25 a week and room and board...

...and Cape Cod wasn't a whole hell of alot. I just got to say something here. Um first of all, if I had known youwere a juvenile delinquent, I never would have associated with you numberone this this, this is what's so great about this, I never knew that stuffabout john because even when we first met, we just had fun and we talkedabout acting and whatever we did and then through the years, how about this,john, you know the first play I ever did ever what Oklahoma, wow, you playedcurly, you played curly curly in Oklahoma gi guessed it. Exactly right.Hey, I got okay, I got a great story, I got a great story about Oklahoma. I wasplaying a golf tournament in Manchester. England with Howard keel was the yeahin Manchester with Danny Chambers and all that. Right, so, so uh johnnyMathis was at that tournament and he had a tournament we were going to inIreland right after Howard's tournament. So we're in the car going to the golfcourse and Howard and I are in the car and he, he finds out that I didOklahoma and of course he played curly on broadway, so he, we start singingpore jud is dead in the car. So so uh after we get done, Howard says, becausewe had the show to do that night and it was a black tie event that night. Hegoes, he goes, you want to do this at the show tonight Ashton? And I said,yeah, sure we go to the show, johnny Mathis is up on the stage just knockingpeople out. I mean he had the place and we gotta follow Mathis right? So I goover to Howard, I should crawl over to Howard at the table and I go, you wantto follow that howard? And he goes, come on kid, we'll be fine, we'll befine. So johnny gets done and the audience is mesmerized and then howhard I get up and saying poor john is dead and brought the house down. So Ican always say I follow johnny Mathis and brought the house down. That isawesome. You know. And so when did you start playing golf john? I was bartending at a pool hall in LosAngeles and it was a pretty rough area in south Central L. A. Right near thecoliseum and I had a little Murphy bed apartment for 85 bucks a month theretoo. So I was pretty broke and I was bartending in a lot of cops hung outthere and uh one of them came in one day and said, hey, my wife bought mesome new clubs who wants to buy my old ones And they were old Walter Hagenyeah so I said okay I'll buy, so I bought it for $50 and they sat in myapartment for six months at least and one day I had nothing to do and Ilooked at him, I said I think I'll take those and go play. And I was hooked. Iwent out and played and went to Griffith Park and played and uh so youyou got to be a natural athlete like did you have you taken lessons? No, no.I was just, I picked him up and went out there and beat it up and went, youknow, he was he was like eight handicapped like first time he played.Matthew, what do you think about that? Doubtful doubtful of that. I never Inever took a lesson either. I didn't start playing till I was 31 when Imoved out to L. A. I've said this, we used to beat the crap out of guys thatplay golf where I grew up. When I grew up I was going traveling to into thecity and play basketball um playground. So I mean if you play golf you hadmoney and you belong to a country club and you wore those pants. I mean nobody,we didn't want to do that. I didn't start till I moved to L. A. I was 31,my brother Mitch was out there, he had started playing which I had ridiculedhim for for years and I got out there and started playing and uh I mean it'sfor all of us actors, you know, when we weren't working, we were playing golfsix days a week, right, john if you were working you were playing. And howmany jobs did people get because of somebody they met on the golf course oryou know, it was a long way. Right. Yeah, I mean it changed all of ourlives. It really did and josh gosh, you'll appreciate this when I, when Idid that play in high school, right? All my juvenile delinquent buddies, youknow our color, you want to be accurate. The thing of course I was going toagree to, you know the oh yeah they weren't, they weren't, I was going tobe I and then all my football buddies...

...were teasing me about being an actorand all my actor friends thought I was some stupid Jack, you know, so you know,I'm sorry, I didn't fit in anywhere. I think you did. I think you fit in verywell. But so john did you know that Matthew was in the circus? The circle.No. Yeah, I gotta show you, I gotta show you this picture this where to gogunner, we had it up. Mhm where is it? I don't know you my my my screen shrunktoo. Yeah they're trying to get the picture of, no okay I don't know whathappened to but we had a great picture of Matthew and his circus costume doingwhat? Doing what? It was sweet. I'll tell you what it was john right. I usedto get these calls as I know you did, did I want to do battle of the networkstars or did I want to do this show or that? And I always said no because Iwas a serious actor, no serious actor does that. Anyway one day I got a callfrom my agent, they would like to meet with me to do a little show. Everythanksgiving they did called Circus of the Stars and I said I'm not going to do thatshow. What do they want me to do? And they said they want you to walk thehigh wire and I thought you know what, I'm going to go talk tothem because when in my life would I ever get a chance to do this? I wentand met with them and it turns out that the guy that was training the three ofus to do it was one of the guys that walked with the Wallendas, the mostfamous high wire family ever. Absolutely I did to do it. And so forCircus of the Stars, I walked the high wire. I rode a bike across the highwire. Well do we? Yeah, but we catch right there, but you did it with no netyou see oh they didn't they have a safety belt on you two or something oryou were rehearsing but not when we did the show. When you did the show um Youdid it without a harness or anything. Yeah I'll send you the video. So Thathas to be more terrifying than hitting a ball in front of 300 people. Oh yeahthat was that was pretty terrifying. I couldn't do it by that time. Afterabout six weeks. Um I actually did comedy up there. I was the comedyrelief, I rode a bike across it with a wheel that was an oval. So every timeit went up and down, every time I did the pedals the bike would go up anddown. I mean I'm an incredible athlete along with being very humble. I'm anincredible athlete. I just picked it up and I did it. You know that's what howhigh off the ground is that? 20 ft? 20 ft now? That that's that's prettyintense. That's pretty intense. So john you love the picture when you see thepicture man, that's why I couldn't do it but not me. So I don't like heights.Anyway. You know I go to I go to do a movie. I said don't put me above thefourth floor because I don't like heights. Oh yeah that wouldn't be good.They always want to give me a give me a sweet like on the 27th floor and I gono, put me down to like two or three. All right. So john you're living inyour little apartment out in Cali and you pick up golf. What was the firstgig you got that you got paid kind of well for? Well, it was a stupid littleindependent movie called, I think it's called psychopath now and at the timeit was called, I can't remember what the original title was, but actually itwas uh, there was an accurate it saw it then years later he said, you know,they had to redo that because we did it for like a buck and a half. And it wasthe, my, one of the directors in my theater program at USC, his nephew wasdirecting it and he saw me do a couple of plays at school and wanted me to dothis. It was a little independent, crazy little thing. And you know whatyou're, what year were you on mash, 72 or 3 73 maybe, wow. Yeah, that was. Ilove that picture. I don't hear Gunner. Wait, can you pull that up, gunner?Let's see. I think we got it right here. Somewhere right here. Yeah. There we go.

What a handsome guy, Huh? Look at thatone. He looks like a juvenile delinquent in that way. That's the lookI had when I would go to my probation officer. Yeah. Well that's where heprobably told you you were going to go if you don't straighten up. Yeah. Right,right. Yeah, I'm like yeah, well I'm not kidding, you know, most, most ofthe guys that grew up with are no longer with us because but anyway,we'll be with us, but they might not be, they might be behind bars. Sounds likeYeah, so we got, let me see, I'm gonna bring Terry up because I think Terrywants to ask a question here, let me see, Terry, I'm here. All right, yougot a question for john and Matthew? Yes, actually it's for john. Um I heardthat Sylvester Stallone and uh Mickey Rourke was slated to play axel Foleybefore Eddie Murphy was is that true? True, That's true. Uh Mickey mickeyRourke was first and then Stallone. And then Eddie and I my my first auditionwas when Mickey Rourke was doing it and then I auditioned and like, I didn'thear anything for a couple of weeks and then they called me back and Iauditioned again when Stallone was doing it. But then Stallone wanted tomake it because it was originally a very gritty movie. It was a very greatand mickey work was was uh his his best buddy gets killed in Detroit and hegoes to Avengers but his death and all that, so it was a very gritty movie andthen when Stallone was going to do it, he started to make it, you know, Ramboblows up Beverly Hills or something. And uh so and then he went into Cobraseven and then when Eddie took it then it became a comedy but the scriptscript really new little grip so Uh huh mhm well, yep. Well we lost john All right.But it's pretty amazing man. You know, you think that they have you beenanyway, you have changed it like that. It was, it was originally blocked andit's a loan and then it being made it follow. Yeah, he's just, we're just gonna keep himlike that. We lost a little bit there john but you know how hard is that foryou that if you're reading the script and all of a sudden it changes fromlike drama action to like comedy was tough for you. Can you hear us john are we back? Yeah, can you hear us? I don't know if you can't hear me. Canyou hear me? Matthew, yes, I don't know what happened to johnny disappeared onus. It's colorado you know somebody stole area. Yeah, it's still freezing. That's a reallytough thing to do. I mean it never happened to me but to go from mickeyRourke to Stallone to Eddie and obviously the entire movie changed uhthe great thing is john was going to do that movie when it was mickey Rourke orStallone Hello Hello I lost you there I guess? Yeah, we lost you too, can youhear us john hey Gunner, can you type in and telljohn to maybe refresh his computer, there is a little circle thing up there.Um Yeah, no, that would be difficult. Right. And I always wonder, I alwayswondered for you guys. Like I've watched a lot of between you and johnhave watched a lot of the schizo, you can catch, you know, parts of it all onYoutube so you can watch a bunch of different skits and john plays a lot ofdifferent characters and so do they write that into the script? Like yougotta be like this or do you just see the line understand who that characteris and then take it off on your own tangent? Well, you, I mean when you geta script and you're, you first get it, you have something in common with thatcharacter usually or they wouldn't be seeing you to play that part. Um andthen it's a question of making it your own. Uh and obviously working with thedirector, who is, who is there to pull...

...out that, that performance from you. Uha lot of times it depends on the director, you'll have a director whereyou can go to him and say, I think it would be better if I said this and nowyeah, that, that is better. There are some directors that go, you know,that's the script, you know, don't now, john is is so legendary that he couldprobably go to a director and just say this sucks, I'm doing it this way andthey would let them. I would think. Yeah, yeah. I mean, well not probablyat first, right. I mean when you're young, do they like you when you'reyoung after being a rookie, right? It's like being a rookie, you're not allowedto talk like you just do what we tell you. Yeah, same thing. Um but you know, he, he obviously, youknow, when you're starting out, you're so, most people, most actors are so nervousand solution. Yeah. Well, we lost you a long time ago john Yeah, that's right.You've gone back that the winds changed in colorado. So we lost them. That's,it's very possible. I mean, you know, I'm not, he's, I think he's in FortCollins I think is where join this. Although he travels a great deal now.Um but you know, the uh, I think I told you this to the first movie said I wasever on was Prince of the City and I had, you know, two scenes to do thatday. And I, I don't think I've ever been that nervous before or afterbecause I was working with some great actors and one of the best directorsthat ever lived in Sydney lament and you know, it was, I had nightmaresbefore that first day. I mean, I really could imagine. Um it's pretty amazingphenomenon. That first day of work. Hey, I'm still here. You know, Oh, you arenow you're back. Oh, I'm back now. Okay, good. Yeah, I was done. You get sick ofus. Yeah, you were all right. You were at alone. Uh you were finishing up, youdid it with Rourke and then Stallone and then with Eddie, that's where youwell, yeah, I don't know if she's still there or not, but strangely andstrangely enough, Matthew and you'll, you'll appreciate this. I got a callfor Beverly Hills Cop in 19 like 1983 to something like that and the castingdirector wanted to meet me. So I went into paramount and met the castingdirector. She was lovely and I can't remember her name, I'm sorry and Ican't remember her name. But she said to me flat out Matthew, she said johnthere is absolutely nothing in this film for you. But I saw you in the head,Ed Harris do True West at South coast rep and I loved your performance and Ijust wanted to meet you as an actor. And so I said, well thank you very muchand that was the end, you know, that was the end of it. And Eddie Harris andI did True West on the south coast rip and we both both want to drop the logsawards and all that stuff, but she just wanted to meet me and then a couple ofweeks later, not even a couple of months later I get a call, it says theywant to see you for Beverly Hills cop. So I, I okay. So I go in and they gaveme one piece of paper and it was the scene where I punch any in his stomachwhen I say we don't like the smart mouth kid from out of town and all thisstuff. So I read it right and I get done and I don't hear anything for amonth, right? And all of a sudden I get a call, they want to see you forBeverly Hills cop. And I said okay, you know, now I didn't switch the StalloneI guess, you know, so I go in, they gave me the same piece of paper, thesame scene, I read the scene, boom, thank you very much, I leave, I don'thear anything for another month or so, you know that is Matthew and all of asudden I get a call, they want to see it for Beverly Hills competition, yougotta be kidding me. So I go in now and he was doing it, you know, So Anyway bythe 5th call back uh there were like tons of guys in the, in the hallway andthey were mixing and matching people and they by chance put judge and Itogether and uh they said okay, you too, you too, you too and it was totally byaccident. So Judge came over to me and he said, hey man, what do you think ofthe script And I said, uh I don't, I haven't read the script and he said youever read the script? And I said, no, they just kept giving me this one page.I said that I don't, I have no idea what this movie is about. So he goes,oh my God, you know, and you know, we got to read together with all theproducers and the writers and you know, for the screen to a street test thingand just like, oh my God, So I said,...

...don't worry about it, we'll just wingit, you know, so he goes okay, so we go into the office and there's a guyreading for the captain and me and Judge and marty and then bruckheimerand Simpson and everyone in the room. So I just, you know, we start doingstuff and I'm and living stuff, you know that I finally look at the otherguy and I said, can I talk to you alone for a minute and I look at judge and Isaid I'm going to talk to the capital alone. Judge gonna look too becauseokay, you know, so I look up, I look up at the guy and they go, can I getanother partner because this guy's a real pain in the ask, you know, thewhole room cracked up and I got the job because of that, you know, so that isawesome. I have a question for you about it. So you guys probably see likewhen you watch sports, you hear all about our contracts and the differencebetween NBA NFL and all that. How does it work in film? Like did they give youoptions or is it like, you know, this is what we're giving you and that's itlike, so that because you hear about, you can take a percentage of what themovie makes or you just Uh huh. Mhm. Hey, head up with Gus listenersmanscaped. Well, they sent me uh, they hooked me up with a bunch of tools Andformulations for their package 3.0 Kit. So, you know, I want to show you guyswhat's in the perfect package, right? We all think we've got a perfectpackage, but they sent me the perfect package, 3.0 kid, I want to show youwhat they sent me. So it was crazy. It came in this great box. Uh, you know itand you can see what it says. They will thank you because they sent us thisawesome trimmer. They sent us, uh, you know, stuff that makes you smell better.And then, uh, you know, they sent me this great uh, some boxers what you get,right, protect them. And then, uh, you know, they sent me this cool it sack, Iguess you want to call it to store all your stuff in. So, uh, it's been greatman scape sent me a bunch of product, um, you know, and you know, you can seeit all on here. Uh, you know, if you can go to Manscaped dot com and put inthe code, uh, gus Frerotte, that's G U S F R E R O T T E get 20% off and freeshipping when you use that code. But you can get a kit, you can getindividual items like, uh, this way, cool rumor that has a little led light,um, ceramic. These things come apart, they're waterproof, you can do a lotwith them. So, you know, Manscaped is great. You know, it's funny, I rememberwhen I was playing with the Denver broncos and I'm not going to mentionany names, but there was a gentleman who was playing on our team and youknow, if you ever hears the story, you'll know exactly what I'm talkingabout. But he brought his own clippers in one time and he used it to trim hisbeard up, his goatee and everything and he had him there for about two or threeweeks and he goes in around the corner, he walks in and there's a person,another player that is actually manscaping with his beard trimmer. Soyou know, one of the things is, you don't want to use the same trimmer downthere that you use up here. So, uh, he kind of freaked out a little bit. Hesaid, hey, how long have you been using that tool there? And he said, well,showed up here about three weeks ago and I've been using it ever since. Soyou know, there is a lesson learned that, you know, don't leave things outand probably, uh, if it would have just said manscaped on it, uh, we wouldn'thave had that issue, but it's probably one of the funniest, uh, taking care ofyour ball stories I've ever heard or been around in the locker room in theNFL. So, uh, it's a great story. Um, but you know, I always said there wasno way to know, there's no name on it and the guy was just using it andanother guy was using, it was not good, but it's a heck of a funny story. Soone of the best I've ever heard in my 15 years playing in the league. Um, butyou know, there's so many great things about manscaped and what they're doing,uh, because guys, you got to take care of yourself even though I got greathair um, and getting older, but you still have to maintain some sort ofgrooming, right? And so, you know, we all work out for me, I like working inmy yard doing those things now that I'm retired, getting little sweat on andeverything you want to smell good, you know, you got to take care of yourself,they got some great products. It, um, but you know, this one, uh, a little uh,ball deodorant, we'll need that here...

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...in the NFL, we can get, we can getreally guys, people don't understand like we can really get screwed over inthe NFL because it's almost a one way contract. Yeah. Crazy. Well, you know,gosh, I don't know if you agree with me or not, but I've always felt with mybusiness and sports business, I've always felt that everyone should beinvolved in the revenue of the product that that One guy shouldn't be making25 million and the other guys making 10,000, They should all all be at anequal level and you get, you get bonuses everything, let's say the boxoffice goes to $10,000, million. Everybody gets a piece of that. It goesto 20 million. Everybody gets a piece. Like if you win 20 games as a pitcher,you get so much more money, you know, so it's, I, I just think both of ourbusinesses should be based on production and, and, and quality andwhat you bring, you know, if you're, if you're very successful, everybodyshould enjoy, enjoy that success. I think that's so, that's so true. SoLike when you, when I go in and be a backup quarterback and the starter ismaking 10 million I get bei sally, which was 850,000 and then I end upplaying in 12 games, there's no bone, you know, there was no bonus. So thisguy is just sitting on the bench and I'm like, why don't you give me whathe's supposed to get me? Right. So all right, john john we got anotherquestion here from Armando he wants to know. Um, Yeah, I'm sure you remembersome kind of wonderful, did he know it would become one of the greatest 80smovies of all time, when when you were shooting it? No, no, I didn't, I don'tbelieve me. I don't think in those terms of Matthew knows this as an actor.I don't, I don't, I don't go on the sets going, oh, I'm going to be a starfrom this or I'm gonna, this is gonna win an Academy Award or I go and do myjob, I going to do my job and let the chips fall where they may. I mean, Idon't think of those things, I really don't and there's actually a funnystory when I was doing cop too Beverly Hills because I did some kind ofwonderful after Beverly Hills cop. And then we were shooting Beverly Hills coptwo and they were editing some kind of wonderful because I did it right beforewe started that. Well I get a call and they say we gotta reshoot a scene andsome kind of wonderful. And I was on the set for Beverley Hills cop right,our cop too. So they were both paramount pictures and they wanted toreshoot the bedroom scene that I had with eric Because I mentioned theearrings and that he spent $10,000 on these earrings and when they screenedit for an audience, the audience couldn't believe that he would pay$10,000 from a working class family. So we had to just change that one sectionof the scene. So I had to go over to the other sound stage when I wasshooting cop too run over and re shoot some kind of wonderful bedroom scene.And I had two trailers on the lot and john Ratzenberger who plays Cliff themailman on, cheers. He comes over to me and he goes, you're the only actorthat's got two trailers on the lock, you know, because I had to have one foreach show, you know, so it was very funny. Did you have the stash in bothmovies? I don't think I had it in some kind ofwonderful. Yeah, so like, maybe I did, I don't know if you're filming anothermovie that you have a certain and then all of a sudden you gotta go change it.Look, is that just make up? And they say, well then I must have had it insome kind of wonderful then, because they didn't, I couldn't grow in the day.That's just you're so cut it, cut it and grow it. But and, you know, it wasit was it was a great john Hughes was terrific. I did two movies with himafter that. I did uh she's having a baby with Kevin Bacon after that. Johnwas very, very loyal to him. Who is the guy like Matthew was talking aboutFanboy and over somebody who was, there's been somebody that you workedwith and you were like, this is really cool. Like this guy I've always wantedto work with them or like, I watched one of his movies always wanted to meethim, you know, I don't I don't really get Idon't get odd by, you know, I mean, I'm, you know, I've worked with someterrific value Deniro and and you know, Anthony Hopkins and I work with youjust uh well the great thing the great thing about Hopkins I was doing a moviewith him and cuBA. Gooding Jr and I walked on the set the first day and Ilooked at cuBA and I said is it cuba or cuBA? And he goes to cuBA and I saidokay thank you. Is it sir, Anthony Mr Hopkins Mr Anthony what is it? He goesTony. I go great john let's go to work.

I love it. I love it. So I gotta so forboth of you guys like I was kind of like a prankster in the locker room.All right I love to pull pranks on me because I always felt like I alwaysfelt like yeah I always felt like the laughter you get and I wouldn't do itto people that didn't like it but I knew I get to know people but you guyshave that like did you ever work with somebody who was always a prankster orjoking around with everybody or pulling pranks on them while you were on set oryou know in the background. I don't know him I'll tell you I I don't thinkI ever worked with an actor that way. But I worked with crew members that didthat and when crew members did it to you they were usually really good pranks.Yeah they have all they had all the time if you had a prop guy that was apractical joker and you were filming the scene and there was some rubberpoop where there wasn't supposed to be or I mean those are the times that,that you really remember and those, the crew, the crew at john's the same waythe crew, that's my guys and women john absolutely. That's the thing I missmost about not acting anymore is my time with the crew and any time theyhad a chance I came here is there's a great story. I went to, I was doing uhmy sitcom on Fox called duet And in 1987 and I went to, I got an okay totake a week off from the show. No, we had a week break and I went to new yorkto go to the World series, the Mets, we're Playing 86, The Mets World Series.So I leave for a week and we were shooting on the stage at paramount andwe have the back hall behind where the sets are are all the dressing rooms,one next to another. It's like a hotel with four is going down and I come backfrom being in new york for that week and I say hello to everybody and I gomake a left to go down the hall to my dressing room which was in the middleof the hall and here's Allison's dressing room,Here's mary pages dressing room. My dressing room is gone in the week weekthat I loved, They clasp or boarded over it. They painted over andeverybody, the whole crew were looking around the corner to see my reactionfor when I came down the hall. I mean they look doing stuff like that. I'vedone that to a rookie before. We'll see rookie hazing. I'm sure that's normal.Yeah. So we had, I was playing in Denver, we had this rookie lineman Ben,I can't remember Ben's last name. Um, so everybody leaves after practice. Igo and clean out his whole locker, take his name, tag everything and I take oneof our stalls in the bathroom and I make that his new locker and and hecomes in the next morning and he's like, where's my stuff? And all the linemen,they knew what I was doing. They were like, I don't know. So he's looking allover and somebody said like you better go look in there and he goes in andthat's his locker, looks just like his locker had was out there and all thelinemen made him use that as his locker for the rest of the week. Come on man.Just a little rookie. That wasn't as bad as I've heard before. The one, theone prank that was done to me that it was very dangerous actually. And uh, Iwas doing a play in L. A. And it was a hit play. It was called the lastmeeting of the knights of the white magnolia and it ran, it ran for ninemonths. It was a big hit. I mean everybody, I mean Charlton Heston wouldcome back to my dressing room after the show and I mean, you know, Neil Simoncame to my dress, I was like, oh him, oh him, you know, he was only a god tome, you know? But uh a little bit Matthew a little bit, I wouldn't, butbut in the play I played this this alcoholic guy, right? And we're havingthe meeting of the Knights of the White Magnolia, we're gonna initiate a newmember and stuff. So there was no drinking and none of that. So I'm likegetting the shakes during the, during the run of the play because I'm in thismeeting and I want to get out and go have a drink and stuff. And finally Ifind this bottle this point the whiskey. And I tell everybody to get away fromme, get away from me, you know? And I start chugging this point, right? So,you know, of course it's coca cola, you know? But so one night the stagemanager puts real booze in the thing, right? And I got to chug this wholepoint, which is, that would kill me, I...

...mean, so I soon as I got it to here Iwent, oh my God, you know, So I started to try to use it as spraying it aroundto everybody yelling at people and stuff. But you know that was dangerous.And I went to the stage manager after that, had a little talk with him after,let's put it that you're playing defensive end and making him thequarterback at that point you definitely. So we gotta head gus guswhere were you with the broncos when we devote there in 2000 and 1, 2000, 2000and one. So that year in um 2001 when the Raiders are not the rating, but theRavens won the Super Bowl, we played them in the first game of the playoffs,first game, you know, after the season and the playoffs in Baltimore and thatwas probably the best defense I've ever played against that year when they hadall the big, they were really good. So um and we had a really good team, it'sjust their defense was darn good, like that was a tough team. I mean they theywalloped everybody. Oh wait, you were you were after john then, right? Yeah,yeah, so John was before me um brian greasy and I were there together andthen, but you know, there were still kind of hold over is that john knew hedidn't come around the facility too much but like Gary Kubiak who was, whatwas my quarterback was my offensive coordinator and quarterback coach,right? Gary's got we we must have met somewhere because john's a friend ofmine and Gary's a friend of mine and I used to play the golf tournament thatDenver the broncos golf tournaments down here and stuff. Yeah. Which, whichcourse was it? Because there's some amazing courses out there. The one offthe one off of the Arapaho Road, we used to play, Oh yeah, I can't rememberthe name, but it's so much fun playing out there because you feel like a progolfer because you can hit it like 3 40 in that. Denver I tell Matthew thatevery time I go back to Kentucky, I idiot, get used to the air, I'm used to5000 ft, you know? Yeah, sea level. This is great. One summer I did. I never think about this. This isamazing. One summer I spent outside Salt Lake City Doing a very famous1950s musical called I do I do. That is two people a man and a woman for aboutan hour and a half on stage. I can't believe I did that. I am so talented.It's just, anyway, how long did it take? How long did it take you to memorizethe script? Uh actually all kidding aside, that was one thing I was alwaysvery fortunate about. Um, I had it, I could learn scripts and and partsreally easily. I didn't always remember him when I got on stage, but for themost part I was, but anyway that I lived about a half mile from a golfcourse for the whole summer in a place called helper Utah outside Salt LakeCity. And so during I played golf every day and then I would do the show atnight and the same thing. I mean you're up near Salt Lake City and I'm hittingmy seven iron to 20 you know, I'm like up there every day and I've never hitus, you never hit a seven iron to 20 in your life. You could be, you could beon the freaking moon and you wouldn't hit a 2 20 okay. Maybe it's live part,okay. Maybe it's driver. Anyway, let's just say I hated a lot further and Iwas there for two months and then the show ended and I get in my car and Idrive back to L. A. And I go to play probably at Griffith Park and I'm like,what the hell is this? I can't play golf like this anymore. It was horrible.I know exactly what you mean, john exactly. Uh there's a course out therethat the owner of Remax owns. I don't know if you ever played that one, johnyeah, many times, many times and it is like that one, it's like 1000 ft dropand there's a herd of elk always on it. It was, it's just one of my favoritecourse I've ever played and just sanctuary. You're talking aboutsanctuary. Yeah, it's like the par five, it's a dogleg, right and you just teeit high and let it rip. And I mean I've had, I've hit him 3 80 there, you know?And I'm thinking like in my head like, man, that's a long way. And then yousee these guys on regular sea level, what's his name hitting it 400 likeit's nothing. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. So john, what do you have going on now?What are you up to? Well there there is serious talk going on about Beverlyhills cop four. So I'm waiting here on that and you know, there's covid thingkind of screwed things up. And I have a movie that just came out that I didwith Bruce Dern called death in texas and we shot that down in New Mexico anduh, and then I have a movie that came out a few years ago. Once upon a rivertaken from the book and that's out on,...

...you can stream all those. So right,right now I'm just, you know, waiting to hear about cop four evidently. I'mhope I'm in it. I mean, I don't know if I'm in it, but uh, I talked to judgethe other day and neither one of us are attached to it yet, but I talked to himthe other day and he said, oh yeah, hey, we'll do this and we'll do that. We'lldo this and I'll go judge, we've got the freaking jab yet hold it. I justwant you to create this thing where you fall in the pool. Oh yeah. You know, Idid that like 10 times. Yeah, that was, that was the prank they played on you.You just didn't know it. They just kept saying, do it again. Yeah. Well everytime they change camera and goes, you gotta go get a dry suit, go do it again.You know, I can imagine, I can imagine what you've been doing it for so longand I'm so happy you're still doing it. Uh It's been amazing to have you as aguest on the show. I can't thank Matthew enough for for asking you tocome on. I mean, I'm sorry that we had a little faux pas in the beginning, butnow we got to where we needed to go. Um And if anybody out there wants to gofind john you go to his right? You have a website, john ashton dot com. Yeah, Ihaven't, I haven't updated it. I heard your sister gets really mad at you forthat. Yeah. How'd you know that she does she? How did you know that? Idon't want more than you should be able to read a defense anymore, but I canfind out. So she said to make sure that you update that because I know whatyou're doing. Yeah, I know, I know. What do you john do you know whatMatthew's doing nowadays? Uh He's working at the radio station in mexicanright in that amazing that he has a he has a sports talk radio show, He has agolf show. I mean, Matthew, that's pretty amazing that with your career,the circles you've been, because it's tough to do. I've been there. It is.I'm the only there it is. That's uh look at that goofy picture. Um You mustbe the one to pick that. No, actually I'm not and I will talk to somebodyabout that soon as I get Anyway. Um it's been, you know, I, I've alwayssaid I have been the most blessed person to be able to have the actingcareer I did, and then to go sit behind coach K at Duke for 10 years doingradio now, being on ESPN radio and you know, talking about sports and you know,it's just, it's been it's been pretty amazing. I'm really lucky and you'rereally good at it. So I've been on your show, it's, it's amazing and it's a lotof fun. Well, thanks guys, I got a suggestion for you. Matthew, get you're on the high wire and put that onthat poster to Matthew, that's you. Yeah, wait till he sees this picture.We, hey john you know what we need to do, we need to make it into a gift. Soit's just like going back and forth? Uh and put it on the cover for you. Wedon't know. No, we don't, no, no, alright, we don't john look at his facelike uh like that was kind of scary. Yeah. So the other thing we gotta do.Matthew is we gotta get john down in Kentucky. Yeah. You know, we got toplay some golf and then we'll get him on the tour with us. Yeah, good nightof that. Oh hell. Believe me. He'll do the bourbon tour. Believe me. Yeah, Gusis coming legs intention and we're going to play golf and do the bourbontour in the spring. Okay, john, Yeah. Alright. Thanks johnwhat's your favorite uh, Ashton movie? Well, the two, I mean our legendary areobviously cop Midnight run is one of my absolute favorite movies of, of alltime. I mean, I've seen it 30 times and it's just the most everything about itis incredible. Everything about it. Every performance, uh, the script,everything about it is, I just obviously, like I said, the cop moviesare fantastic, but for me, Midnight Run is yes. Okay. So john, I got onequestion if we can get serious for a second because it's all in the newsright now and you've, you've been on sets where you've handled guns and allthat and it's what a shame that happened to alec baldwin right? Like,Like how does that, how does that even happen? I mean, I couldn't imagine whathe's going through right now.

Well I can't, I've worked with alecwhen he did his first tv series called cutter to Houston was Shelley hack andI was a regular regular on that and I sort of worked with alec and Danny.I've done a couple of movies with his brother Danny. So we're pretty goodfriends and uh I can't imagine what he's going through man, you know uhI've got I've got some pretty good guesses that I'm sure Matthew does tohow that happened but from you know I'm like ugh it's everything I read. So I'mtrying to decipher what's really true and what's not but you know you have totrust the people around you right like you when you were when you werehandling a shotgun like in midnight run, you know and you're putting the roundsin there, you're putting the the shotgun shells in there, you know,you're trusting that there's really nothing in them. Oh yeah. Yeah I meanyou've got there's a certain amount of trust but there's also got to be acertain amount of uh your own responsibility to you know, I mean whatwhat I'm on a set because I I know guns a little bit soum and the prop guys, I you know I respect them totally and and uh Ialways tell them do not hand me the weapon until the camera is rolling. Notnot when they say get ready because they say get ready and then they handeverybody these loaded guns and then somebody wants to tweak a light andthey go wait a minute we gotta do this now, there's a bunch of people standingaround with loaded guns and I don't like that because a lot of people don'tknow about guns and they, they think their toys and they're not and so Itell the prop guy do not hand me that weapon until the cameras rolling andgive it to me on safety, I will take the safety off when they yell, cut, Iwill hand you this weapon right back and so stand right here off camera andI'm gonna hand it right back now, some people don't do that and believe me andI'm not gonna name names, but I've been around a lot of them, they start firingthe guns and thinking they're toys and and it freaks me out. Just yourfootball mentality coming back there when they're doing that stuff Oh yeah,back to your old high school coach, Yeah, so I feel bad for alec but butand evidently it happened during a rehearsal, it didn't even happen duringa shot, so he shouldn't even had a loaded gun at all for a rehearsal.Apparently there was a lot of other stuff going on before that then that'sjust that incident, so it's horrible. I there were a couple of jobs I had whereI had to fire a weapon, one of them a lot and that was Popeye Doyle that Idid with that o'neill and those prop guys, I mean we're talking about in newyork playing cops, all this stuff, I never saw the weapon, I mean we wouldrehearse with prop guns, rubber guns, rubber guns, rubber guns, I never saw aweapon as john said until right before action was said they would walk over,take it out of their bag that they carry it in and hand it to me and thatwas it. And and they'll show you they usually show you the chamber and tellyou yeah. So do you think you think this will make you have a lot ofchanges happen now because of that? Well I think you could hope so. I hopeso. But I think a lot of it was they were on a tight schedule, they wererehearsing. I mean they were I think I read they had a 21 day shootingschedule and I've been on those, those schedules when I did my I did my tvseries hardball and we had a lot of weapons on that And we were working1516 hours a day and I mean I'm telling you get tired after a while and youstart losing your concentration and and and that's I've always felt that I dida movie in France was dry Depardieu who was a big star over there, just him.Yeah, well I owe him but but we did this movie and we worked eight hours aday, that was it, that was it. And I mean you got to the set, they hadbreakfast for you there, you started your work at noon, you didn't start,you didn't start till noon and you got there at 8 11 and had a little brunchor something, start at noon around four or five o'clock. They bring a card overwith bagels and you know, all these french food and you go, you go makeyourself a sandwich, you know, and there was, there was no break. You workeight straight hours at eight o'clock rap God, then you had time to go hometo your family, have a dinner that...

...night. I mean it was rarely really andthey got it done in the same amount of time. And then I went back to thestates again and I started kind of going, man, you go, so I went over tonew Zealand to do a movie and it was the same thing 14 hours a day and outof the woods at three in the morning and the freezing rain and you know what?I'm going, you guys don't have a clue man, but they France was so wonderful.It's multi civilized, civilized. Exactly, exactly. No, I thought so. Onelast question for you, john, what's your favorite John Ashton movie or onethat you're most proud of? I gotta say midnight run. You know, it was, it wasnot only a great script. We had a great cast, we were on the road six monthsdoing that movie. We started literally started, started in new york and workedour way across the country and and uh we became really close family, you know,and uh and it was the experience was great. Uh I loved playing Marvin doorfloor. I mean I just melted into that character and uh I didn't feel like athinking about a funny story, There's a scene, there's a scene where the twomob guys take bobby and chuck into the alley and he got him in the alleywayand then I pull up in the car and shoot the shotgun and knock him out and speakinto the microphone and do all that stuff. I love that scene, well we getit there in the morning and I say to marty, what do you want to do this? Andhe goes well you just walk across the street with your with the shack andhold it to your side and walk across the street toward the alley. And I saidmarty that's boring man, He goes well what do you want to do? And I said Iwant to drive into the shot and shoot the shotgun out man. So he goes greatidea. So we stopped out everything and they built this ramp for five hours,you're building all this stuff and you know, but that's why I love marty brestthe director, he just gave us so much freedom and Tika took her ideas and youweren't just some robot out the actor out there throwing lines out, he reallylets you create that character, you know what a great character it was, hedid the same in Beverly Hills cop I mean and probably he directed the firstcop marty brest, he's a wonderful director and like I said before thatthat script was was still the same gritty script that that mickey Rourkeand Stallone had, but now we got a comedian and now we start changingthings and and marty loved the chemistry with me and Judge and weshoot a scene where it said Taggart and Rosewood wait in the car and Judge andI would sit in the car and look at the window, drink our coffee and shoot thatlike two or three times you go okay we got that now you guys just play with it.So the next take and Judge literally had a magazine in the car that he wasreading in between takes, so he goes okay you guys just do something now andhe rolls the Cameron. Judge picked up the magazine, he goes, wow, did youknow by the time you're 50 years old, there's £12 of undigested meat in yoursystem and I go why are you telling me that? What, what makes you think I haveany interest in that at all? He goes well you eat a lot of meat, you know,and that was all that lib stuff, you know that marty gave us the freedom todo that, you know, oh, that's awesome, That's awesome. That's probably whatmakes you the most happy when you, when you, when you can be an actor and havethat kind of freedom. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, we're not robots, giveus to get you hired us for our talent, let us let us use it. You know, let uscreate, you know, It's amazing that when you watch a movie that where theymake them robots, you can tell it right away. Yeah, well, you were talkingabout, you know, being awed by certain actors and stuff. Well, when MidnightRun came up, I was at a play, I was watching Joey pantoliano, do a play anda good friend. And I had an intermission came up to me and said,well you're gonna do Midnight Run, aren't you? I go, I don't know, Ihaven't read it. You know, my cracker Jack agency, I go I go, I don't know, Idon't know anything about it. He goes, oh, you're perfect for it. Uh This wasalan vince, I don't know if you remember Alan uh Matthew. But anyway,uh I called my agent. So what's the deal and they go, well, yeah, you'd begood in it and I go, hello, You know, so I get a get a hold of marty and hegoes, oh you'd be great in it. He goes, well, you got an audition, you know?And I go, well I got an audition for you marty, I said, you know, you knowBeverly Hills got together, he goes it's not me, it's bobby, he wants toaudition with everybody. And I learned I learned a good lesson from him then.So I said okay, that'd be great, that'd be great. So I go to the audition, ofcourse, there's 50 people out there, you know, in the hallway andeverybody's freaking out, you know, Well I got to read with the Nero, Igotta read with Deniro and I'm like out there going man I couldn't wait I go II couldn't wait to go work, you know,...

...read with them, you know? And and Isaid to myself, nobody's getting this part of me, this is my part, this is myrole, nobody. So I go in there and bobby is there and we go high and niceto meet you blah blah blah. So marty goes okay we'll start to see, so westart the scene and uh bobby goes, they had me some matches, he picks up somematches and goes to hand them to me. So I I go to get him and he drops him onthe floor and he stares at me and I looked at him, I go f you when he goesf you to go after yourself. And uh he wanted me to pick him up and Andersonand I looked at him and I said I ain't picking those up. So I found, I foundout later when I walked out George gallery, the writer told me it wasTuesday walked out, bobby said I want him because he wanted he wanted some ofhis stand up to him, yeah and I'll guarantee every other actor picked himup and said oh you're mr Deniro and I looked at him, I go and I looked at himand my nephew, we got along great and you know, I mean when you and actuallyI was supposed to get killed halfway through that movie in the originalscript and then marty said after about a month or two or shooting, marty saidwe can't kill door flor, everybody will hate us. So we got to the scene, so nowthey put me into the scene at the airport at the end and all that stuff.But originally I was supposed to be shot in Vegas when the bad guys, Ishowed him a picture of growing and they see the towels at a hotel and theyknow where he is and they shoot me in the original script, they just shoot me.So now we get to film and that that scene and marty comes over to me, hegoes, hey man, he said, you know you're supposed to get killed in the scene andnow you don't die. He said what are we going to do? And I said, have himknocked me out and he goes, oh great idea. Okay, that's how it works, that'show it works. Oh man, this has been incredible. I loved it. I loved it. AndI thank you both for joining me today. I don't want to keep you too long butand it's just an incredible show and hopefully you guys can come back andwe're gonna build this platform up and we're gonna make it bigger and biggerand get more fans on and to come and be a part. You're doing a good job. Yeah,thank you. Thank you. I'm just sitting here. It's nice. I get to sit in myhouse and do it. Oh wow, cool. Matthew has to go into work any time johnAshton is on the show from now on. I won't be there. Yeah. Hey john said hewon't either after he sees that uh, you'll be doing the show yourselfbecause okay, handle that. I can handle that. Well, I appreciate you guysjoining me on huddle up with gus. It's been amazing. We got any more questionswhenever asked you who's your, who's your football team? Who's my footballteam? The Giants? The Giants are from Connecticut Yeah, I mean I'm a yankeefan and a Giants fan just like me. Yes, I like playing, I played in a golftournament yesterday, an NFL alumni tournament. It was all Giants. So harryCarson, howard Cross, you know? Yeah, the good Giants. Yeah, yeah, I was theonly, I was only Washington guy there. So I found a little out of place whenthey called my name, I thought I was going to get hit by somebody. Wellstraight hand wasn't there? So you are? Yeah, yeah, that's worth it. Ever tookWell I was just, I was just back in Long Island about two weeks ago forjoan a men's tournament. So uh yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh well no, this is a glenoaks, They didn't play Bethpage this year. They headed at glen oaks and Itold him, I told him I said look before he comes to the term, I just wanna letyou know, I'm a giant, a Jets fan, we laughed about it, everything was goodand I sat and had dinner with joe and it was great, it was amazing or what? Iinterviewed him maybe a month ago and he was just, I mean he's fromPittsburgh and he's one of my idols growing up and you know about joe.Pittsburgh kid goes to Alabama, but just to interview him and sit here andtalk to him about everything like I'm talking with you guys was amazing to me,but I was and boy, you know, he came up to me as soon as he, you know the firsttime we met there and he walked over to me and gave me a big hug and he says,man, you've done a lot of good stuff man and I said well thanks joe thanksto you. If you ever want pantyhose john uh have you ever worn Pantyhose Joemight have one up on you. Uh I wouldn't admit it if I did all your buddies fromhigh school. Don't ever want to hear you say that you did. Yeah, well,alright guys, I appreciate you have a good night when you guys having fordinner. Uh Pizza. Probably. It's what I haveevery night. I'm lonely tonight. So...

...what about you Jon? I think I'm goingto cook a little pasta with some meat sauce tonight. Thanks everyone. Thanks.Thank Matthew, I'll talk to you later. Thank you. Gus, thank you. I appreciateyou so much. Uh Yeah, thanks everyone for joining me uh for Hello up with Gus,we'll see you next week. I think Mario Andretti is coming on next week, soit's gonna be great. So thank you. Sounder F. M Thank you to super eventand uh thank you to everyone who helps me out with this. I appreciate you. Andwe'll see you next week and that's a wrap sports fan. Thanksfor joining in the fun at the 16 31 digital studios for another Actually,huddle up with Gus featuring 15 year NFL quarterback. Gus parent huddle upwith Gus is proudly produced by 16 31 Digital media and is available on applemusic.

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