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Jay Paterno

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We Are! in the huddle with Jay Paterno, philanthropist and son of legendary Penn State football coach Joe Paterno. In this episode, Dave and Gus talk to Jay about everything from his life growing up with the coaching legend and his current opinions on topics ranging from football to his work. Join the huddle and give a listen to this week's episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome everyone to hoddle up with Gus,but we talk to our guests about how sports shakes their life. I'm your hostGus Foro fifteen year NFL quarterback and I'm joined by my longtime friendand cohost day pager. You can now find us, under the big top with Te SportsCircuit, an bring master sout look for us on MTV, a MP tvcom Al Wan to join. U Oyeahimeyouthin aboutthe name and everything in en tat. How far back goes N Ya, what anoutstandingjob his family, his father is done at fence,Dat and Caro tradition, and I know he loves e game. He loves the college andI don't know I don't know if, if he's ever left Pence Day, Firday College, Ibelieve he's a lifer lik that find out so jay, it's so great to have you onhuddle up with Guss. We appreciate you joining us on the show today, a greatdebear, so where we always start is we kind ofgo back to when you were a kid? And I think this question is anyone cananswer, but it's always about what was that first time or where's? That firstmoment in your life that you remember wher, you fell in love of Sports Gao. You know when I was a kid,obviously being around pen stak football, that you know. I wasn't apractice oranything like that, but I knew that my dad was involved insomething, and I would start when I was very young I' Get up earlyin the morning and I go into his den and he's been there. Looking film and Istarted to you- know: Generalis Playng, with my little matchfox and cars andhot wheels on the floor of his dead. But you know, as I got older, I startedto watch look over shoulding of what exactly is he doing, and this is backin the days fos film and then you know you just kind of pickup the sport from being around it and just always: Love Love, just the ideaof football and everything about it and all the all thes stuff thot come withit. So what other sports I mean? Obviously football's in your blood. Itwas in my blood. It was connected to our families, but what other sports did you grow up playing or enjoywatching? What was I good at? Not Madi, Butim Baseball, Tohesday, still lovebaseball ther's, just something about it. Youknow the you know the good thing about baseball. It kind of gives you time todigest. What's going on between pitches and stuff, basketball played a littlebit here and there my skine bike, all kind of stuff, butbut football baseball Wul, probably be the two biggest ones: love hockey. YouKnow Penn State's got a great hockey program and and Goy get ask he's aCOACHERWHO's, a neighbor and a friend. So you know I just love competition,and now I've got two kids to of my kids. Are PlayingCollege across I've got three therer three younger siblings, of all planacross. So it's you know it's just it's. Whatever I's got a ball. Bat Huck tick,you name it a'll, watch it so jame. When you were growing up in StateCollege, was it like a bunch of neighbored kids that would always youknow, you'd, go and pickup game of football play whifffootball! Something like that was it like the Neighborhoo crew that playedwith each other...

...w yes and that's exactly what it shouldbe. I still go nuts because you know my kids, an sports like well practiceishere and then what time practice I don't know didn'tthey tell you like? No, you have to tell me, but you know there was there. was therewas a high school football coach in Shaker Heights Ohio years ago and youand were talking about this pesen. You know they were having trouble developingleadership on their on their football team, and I said what do you think thatis he said you know the time these kids are born and geting. The sports practice isplanned by an adult. The teams are split by adults. We're going to do thisfor five minutes. Do that for five, so everything they do is organized byAdultson when you guys grow. When I grew up, it was hey, go call one guyand go to his house and then go to four five other guys: Houses with footballor basketball or wiffetball. Whatever you got and we're going t split in theteams and we're going to play and we had' organize it so yo you wure kind offorced to being in charge of it so yeah. You know there was a park right in ourbackyard, so we were constantly down there all time and you know differenttime. Obviously, but you know my mom met a whistle she blowabout ten minutes before dinnertime and if you can get home and sit down beforedinner, you were in big trouble, but other than that its like get out of hehouse and go play sports and we'll see yo where to get back from dinner yeah.So many of our guests talk about that and and that's how we grew up is. IsYou go from one guy's house o the next and whatever you had? And you knowwhatever the sport of the day was we all played it and we didn't haveparents, we didn't have referees, we didn't have people telling you what todo, what the rules were and all that you just made them up as you went and,and the little ones had to keep up and the big ones had to kind of keepcontrol and I think you're right, that's kind of how leadership startedfor a lot of people that played sports back in Ta Day. When I remember twowith the whistle you'd go when eod hear you go cam, even though meant dinnerwas coming, you had to stop yeah. Then you' E, like Ri, well back here in anhour right, exactly t's, exactly right did you go home and and if your momsaid you got to help me clean up the dish naters like mom, I got a game, youknow buttime right N, it definitely is different times, and so one of the question I have foryo you're right in the middle of the state. Weu Love a lot of sports. So,are you more of an East Easter, Pennsylvania, guy or westernPennsylvania guy? This is a loaded question. It's a load, question Dudafter,coaching so many years and heaven teammates. You know you gotto know guys that play on so many different teams. So I really, I grew upa cowboys fan which I know is herrisy in western Pennsylvania from onethousand nine hdred and seventy, but it was cins o rite Starba, but I justthought: Lik was a guy, abalize and and rapefully so good dude and Gil brant, who was the GM of thecowboys or head of scouting, would always come up with scout guys at Pennstake and he would always send my brothers and I stuff, including dallsCowbo, your leader poster. So what team would you yo me? Can you blame is, but no as Igot older and got to know more guys round league stuff, I don't really havea favorite team per se. You Know Tom Bradley's coaching with the steelersnow who I'm close to so I've been out of STO Games, so I rot to them mywife's in Pittsburgh and if I want to keep the House Hol happy, I rove thsteelers, happy wife happy life. You know thatgoes that we o that before so, you know so t ths kind of that way. I kind ofwas a flyers fan and that really hasn't changed. I knowthat Terroray anless, you pay, but you guys get a lot of cup. So you can yougus doing all right Ye a fire send as much ELP as they can get yeah, but thebaseball pirates with team. I really pall e mostthe Red Sox, because my coach o the University of Connecticut for a year inSummers. I would listen to games in the...

...radio at night while I was doing workor whatever and then I went to fenway just fell in love with the wholeenvironment that was back in one thousand nine hundred and ninety three.Ninety four yeah, it's just it's just such a great experience David. I love.Listen to the Games on the radio. Sometimes the Games are hard to watch,but it's something about Wenou have a really good, announcer and T en andcalling the game and Sayg what's happening. It just makes it so muchbetter. Yeah Y, I grew up in Arizona and we could get on am you could stillget dodger games even though I was in Tuson, and that was the gree. Even Iwasn't even a dodgers fan, but there's nothing. You know more relaxing havingthat in the background right, an scully calling the game. No, it's was great.That was my dad. The best things about getting satellite radio. As I startedlistening, t SOM Ben sculling and you know Doyer, you know before e retiredand and part of that was you know he was doing games when they were SnowinBrooklyn and my dad grew up in Brooklyn. My Dad was a brook an dodger fan factorwhen he was a kid. He was UHER riheps field and th dodgers left Brooklyn. Hestopped. We stopped watching baseball together, Hewas, so mad never got over it onright. So when you make that transition into highschool did you go to State College? High School went high school, good,techolii school, that's a pretty good everyer they're, pretty competitive inthat area. Yeah I've Don they've done that sob we're really the biggest highschool within seventy eight miles, and so we should be, but we're in thatleague and th with the HAIRISBURG teams in the mid pen, lakes, it's good, tough,competitiveleag and they've done. A good job. Coach dare has done Nice JobMadlan tell whos. Dad was also the coachere at one time and but they'realways competitive. Did you play multiple sports in high school noi've got into football? I did sometrack till I realized I wasn't fast andcouldn't jump and couldn't dro chotput. So I realized that was't. That was notgoing to be Futu Forme, but football is my main thing and playdfootball there and then I walked on at pencioate and played there and reallyhad a great time, and I knew I wasn't going to be the starting quarterback,an pensive any time soon less. There was an absolute tragedy on Saturdayafternoon, but I knew I want a coach so and thatwas really torais my stat in it. So would your dad go to your games in highschool yeah? He well, he got to one or two ofthem, partly because you know they were onthe road on Friday nights or or es with the team on Friday nights and the one game I remember coming to waswe were playing Hunco, Toni High School and we weretied and I was Goingna. I was getting sacked and I thought you know what, ifI throw this ball away ill, stop the clock and will be third down and sevenrather than third down and fifteen. So as I throw the ball away, I'm gettingkind of wrestled to the ground. It hits off the other. Kids knee brake gostraight up in hear in Puncsotony Piksan off and they win the game. Tenseven I work home so and my dad to look. You had the right idea. You know it's afluk thing. You know if I was gratin you ousay, you were thinking the rightthing, but it just didn't work out. He saidthat's the way life goes and it was a learning lesson. I thought he's goingto kill me Whie, I don't, but now he was. He took that approach, and youknow it's funny years later, when I was coaching quarterback C. that's how Iwould look. You did everything you could control and that's the only thingI can grage on. I try to get away that one year when I was playing with theBANGALS and threwh it left handed in the coach as like yeah excuse reallydoesn't work. Beas caninit got picked up. I till Iremember that you remeber that plag was it goal line. No no Youre Wer is likeon a thirty go ahead. It tackld ID right. When I got yeah, I was throwingit and I can. I think, a D Liman picked it off, but there are things you can'tcontrol and there's definitely things...

...in te game that you can't control. Ilove when, like so I'll, give you example: Ryan, Fitzpatrick, who's, agood friend of the show and a good friend of mine. Last week the dolphinsare playing the jets. They get the ball in a half yard line coming out n. Theytry to sneak the ball out, but Ryan gets tackled in the ends Om, basicallyright because you're already snapping t it byin te goal line and it and it's asafety, and so the media wroade. How Ryan Fiftzpatrick gave up a safetyagainst the jets and I'm like that's not how it goes. That's not what youwrite. I mean that was just a play that was called and he's doing his job andyou know because he can get out, there's just things you can control andyou can't yeah no question Jay. was there ever thought in your head ofgoing somewhere other than Penn state when you're in high school? Well now I walked on TA second abouttwo years in I think it was. I talked to different FIERC N up Turkey abouttransfer, because I was intressin Maye communications and you know so. I went up visitwithdam and just just deside stay at Penc stake and then, when I got a college, Iwent the University of Virginia to coach for three years and then I was at University Connecticut, an and JamesMason University. Before I came back onstate in nine five and then I was andto stay the rest of my career til to that one who was the coach of Virginia?When you went there, George Welsh George will enjoy it. I man I wasfortunate. I coach for two all fame coaches, George Welshon, obviously, andJokaturno and learn great things from George- is really one of the underratedcoaches in the history of collse football simply because of where he wonand he went to the navy and took them to bowls and things D en really turnedthat around and then he went to Virginia wher. They had no footballsuccess whatsoever and making the last fifty years, hey've got twenty ortwenty one Wen. He seesen sixteen of morwit him. So he really did some great things here.Yeah Virginia is a tough place to win you just don't get te Sayn athletes asa lot of the other schools in hat division get. So you went on to coach and you Al Ways:coach Quarterbacks, non coach. Let's see as a Ga, I did defense backs offensiveline and then I coash wide acineand Titeno Connecticut, cut quarterbacksJeslan. This is like ancient history, quarterback said James MadisonUniversity and then Gos tight endin on recriting Carter, Ofence state and then to othe quarterbacks like two thousanod and wasalso kind of cocoordinatd or Cornid past game. Complex till two thousandLeven, you CULN'n a school that started to get a little momentum on thenational scene at because died out now a little bit yeah. There was a fewyears, though OUCON was definitely up and coming Mi. My College Center is nowthe defens coordinator at UCON, loose Spanos, Oh yeah, absolutely yeah Lulose lose a good guy. You know you're in a tough spot, because youknow now they were in that conference how they're going to get out of it,because the Fortu o the basketball, really runs the roost up there and theydidn't like being that CONFERENCA wor. They got themselves out. o Big East putIke Wey new, your football and people realize football is football makes alot more money than basketballness, but you know right. So how do you think allthe positions that you coached and then, when you finally settl in onquarterbacks? How do you think all that helped you coach the quarterbacks alittle differently well in the most important thing ind,you would know this from playing. Is You know you Gotto, try and get yourmind inside what they're trying to do? You know if you know that you know inquarters coverage at that' Si es key and number two if he goes vertical oryou know whatever case may be so having coach other positions in termsefspecially in the defenseiside, where I started out, really helps you design the way You'egoing to attack people understanding to that helped, and then the Yeari spont,the offense line and UVA was great...

...because yomight Remeran Garry Tranquil was thecoach at he tod. You T be one time and he gof it horder bunch o differentplaces. One of the first first year was Oun on Virginia we're all sitting there,a bunch of gas e allright out of college. All think we know everythingyou were drawing up. All these past plays and hey. This is the greatestpass in the Red Zoe this past, that fest and Gary Trackl just sat thirtyGoe, so that's all great, but how you going to protect it, and I see what doyou mean he goes well, you can't get that pass off unless you can protectyour quarterback and and he started, he taught us and then, when I workingeoffin wine, everything I did as a quarterback coach started with. How dowe protect t? So you, you know, learn in defis, learn the offensive line andthen coach and ty en you know tight ends are involved in rungate runwalking, pass balking well past game. So I learned all those other aspectsbefore I really started to coach quarterback. So I think that was a realbenefit. Yeah. I think it's so important. My Son is coaching a William,an Marrie now he's in a senior year and he's coaching Ta quarterbacks, and Itold him that you got to learn what the Linmen are doing. That's the mostimportant because you're goin to learn as a quarterbacks coach. You have tolearn every aspect. What the defense is doing, what the lines doing you have tounderstand all their calls. You have to understand what everybody's doing,because you're the leader, the ultimate leader of the team, and, if you don'tknow, what's going on you you're, not able to put anybody else in the rightposition or tell them what to do unless you know exactly what to do and and sohe's really takin at the heart- and he said it dad by Farits. It's the hardest thingto learn is the Liman all their calls. He said because every run we have, theyhave a different call and then every defense gives them another to call soyou're right I mean learning. The line is probably one of the hardest parts ofthe game. No question: THAT'S GREAT AVICE! You game, because it's you know when that quarterback steps inthe hogloe. Well, you know, don't even be startin the fact that so many teamsdon't huddle anymore, because there's, I think, there's a balance somewhere ornever take a snap under center yeah Gobt, I see games. You cannot run adamn quarterback snake on a third down and six inches and Yhou're stopping oguy five years Te. I want to pull my hair out evr like how hard is it to tethat welcome to the world of the steelers. I mean they never goundercenter any. They won't go into center and in Rothesburger weighs likewo and Ixty six five and he hasn't had a quarterback sneak in about sevenyears or something but yeah. It's t s very fresh time, but WBAT. You know e Guy, a guy thatguy that can get in the huddle or certainly is a quarterback who couldsit there talging he off its line. They earn the respect of thoseoffensive linement to as well, because they know he respects what they'redoing no, and it is really important. I hadsome of the best centers that you could ever play with Ad Matt Burke TommyNalan at the broncos. I mean those guys made all the calls. It's like it'spretty easy for me. I don't have to call anything out. They just get allthe work. It was actually pretty nice. Well, you know it's now: It's you know,they're coming up every play and they're calling out the MiddleLinebacker, and you know you're telling the defens of Lo. You basically tellthem defense where you're setting your protection o where you setting you runblackand. It's like you, know, Whet's part of the Game Start Your Day, sunnysign up at the Westen bontaventure hotel and sweets and enjoy breakfastfor two on us, no matter how you plan to spend your trip to Los Angeles startevery day with a hearty meal to kick start your morning enjoy breakfast fortwo on US each day. You stay for reservations, be sure that primocode sforb appears in the Promo codebox when making your online reservation atmariottcom backs, LAX, bw or call one eight hundred twue, O eight ethouandnine Te Udred, Ninety and Tats for Promotional Code, SFOR B, Yeah Yeah!No, I agree. I agree so you go and you're coaching at the quarterbacks andthen you were also a recruiting coach right yeah. What is the hearts partabout recruiting...

...high schools in College Football?Because I think that was my thing. I never wanted to be a college coachbecause I the of the recruiting aspect I felt like it would take so much to mytime. Oh it does now. You know. If you look at the way. COLTURAA programs areorganized now you know they've got so many interns and assistance and theirwhole recruiting operation. You know for nine years our ecretin operationwas me and I have a staff assistant and maybe a Ga that would help me out withit, organizing everything. Now, there's you know: Twenty thirty people workingon it, so they're not working as much as they used to. But you know, Noyou go into high schools and nowyou've got to try and get to know what makes is kid tick? What is goingto be e decided factor? Is this kid a fit for our school? Does you reallywant to go to class? There's so many factors and it's it's a contantchallenge and when you talk about college football, you go sign. Twentyto twenty three kids in a class- sometimes you starting out with there- might be three o four hundredkids when you first start that you're interested in- and you know, yeahthere's a great wide receiver in California and everybody in the worldschasing, but just get really going to go away from home. Does he want to comeout and play football in Pennsylvania and I'me Alwea? Overlooking a kid inyou know in Western PA, while we're chasing the kid in Florida- and youknow we used to have that flight all the time. In fact, you know every oncein a while. My Dad would even committing say when you, when you wereplaying, guess Ye gays, hell, yeah, there's gotsfom Western Pa. How do wemiss them? Now? I wasn't on the staff at that time because Iwas it's becauseyour buddy Bradley wanted me to play lineback and I'm like do that. You, JimCalli yeah and te Os Setler Telli, O the live back. I do yeah in high sailorto afive back. Was it Jeff, hostether Penn State for a little bit and then heleft went to West Virginia Yeah? Well, you know, Hav was in the recruitingclass when, when Jim Kelly was coming out, Frank Rocko was like the big nameoutright and they'd Gotten Black Ledge and they got another guy, and so JimKelly was like. Well, you got all these quarterbacks and it was jt whitemayabeen recruiting my the time he said. Well, you know Jim you're good enoughathlete. If quarterback doesn't work out, you could play Linebacko. Nobodysaid you're going to be a lineback right e just and if hit doesn't workout, you can play linback Awan. He heard that and went the other way ran.The other way which you know it worked out for him and Black Ludgh got isnational championship was the first round pick and so mabe really everybodycame out of head, but you know it's. You know I hear from people all the time aboutwhen you got to recruit Florda you got to flu cuit Georga. You Go Trut allthese plases. If you want to be successful and like you know, at theend of the day, you know higer state last year, for example, because I haveanote I'm on the board of trustes at Pendat right now, one of the trustesentwell we're not recruiting all these places. I said: Nineteen of Ohio State Darters lastyear came from big ten staks and I said they're pretty Dan good and couldn'teven beliave. I go look. This Kis Mah went right down the list. I go. Youguys get all cught up in these recruiting guys and say this guy inFlorida, as a fivestore and last year, the rookie the year were Se Kuan,Barkley N FL, who went to high school in Pennsylvania and dot. What's thename t e defunti tackle out of dherams Aaron DOA Donald He's Ale Qhipaga, Imean so there are two of the best players in the entire league that Arright here in Pennsylvania. So I said I don't want to hear that crap. You knowwe got good enough. You know good enough players right here. Yeah,sometimes you miss them when tyou're right under your nose right. Noquestion, so what do you? What do you think? I always thought it thoughtabout this, like your dad, especially what do you think your dad would sayabout how football and recruiting goes was social media because he probablywould just be like I'm not doing that? If you guys want to do it, I could justsee him like trying to figure it out.

Well, twitter was starting to hit bigwhen before he was done coaching- and he said, look- I don't know what'sgoing on that stuff, but are we doing everything we should be doing as anorganization Y know? Are we out there? Are we doing a good enough job and hewas always very conscious of that. I think the last year would have beentwo thousand and tendeleven. He got a. He got his first computer, not theHEWAS actall running but head. He had one of those big apple computers on hisdesk to do sky and stuff with recruits and people canye did it. He goes. Whydo you guys think this is such a big deal it'? Nothing with teleconferencingwe've been doing teleconferencing for how many years for other stuff- and hesaid I said well- This is free, goes well, that's even better, so so heenjoyed that, but he started doing that with recruits and hes really e reallyenjoyed it. But you know he wasn't gonna Goin tweet and all that kind ofstuff, and- and you know I don't one thing of drive nuttses, you know nthese recruiting visits now and it drives menuts. You know you see, thekids dress up in the uniform and their posing, and I sa you know what youdidn't learn that uniform. Yet you know that that is always bothered. That's myone gripe o all this agreeing stuff that you eren't allowed to. Let kids dothat before right now. Well, does it and they just turn inm doing it's likeyou know when you earn that uniform, then you can put it on and if ier yourback in coaching, which I may that would be one of my rules I', neverrun the program in like Hey. You come in here, you want, to put I the uniformgood. You commit you sign and you come here and you ar net ti, so you gottohave coach in two thousand and eleven and what are you doing now since you gotout? Well, I wrote a book about my really about my life experience with mydad. I've done tome venture capital. Things for Private Equity Raises I'm on toboard of Trustese apens day. I do a TV show every week now, that's in the eastern part of the stateon Penn State, so a lot of different things. I'm working on another book now Lik,there's two really the pipeline, but one them further ahead on the a theother one. So a lot of different things. So you know it's. I missed coaching andand part and part of the last seven years really. Seven eight years hasbeen dealing with some of the fall out of the stuff that happened in twothousand and eleven as Yit relates to our family and my dad and that kind ofstuff. So that takes up a BI chunk of time. Jol J, when you're on a board ofTruste, is what what like? What is your task? What dos you know when you have't, I don't know how often meetings are like? What do you guys do? I think alot of people, her board trusttees and they don't know what what that is. Sometimes I don't know nobut. We werereally we really the governing body of the university supeak. So when weapprove budget tuition and all that kind of stuff, as well as oversea, thereally pretty much everything, and when you look at a school like Penn State,we, when you count in or much like, Pittn, U PMC, with pen, state and orpenstate health system, you looking at almost a seven billion dollar operation.So there's a lot of things that come with it. So you know it's been a great learningexperience, but also it's been a way for me to kind of get back involved inpen state and really have a a hand in trying to make sure that wedo the right things to students here. You know it's I'm dealing with. Youknow you see it with my own kids. You know the cos situation, those kind ofthings, but also trying to make sure that we oversee the athletics programshere as well, so that we continue do things the right way. Penn State, aswe've done for so many years, are your siblings involved with pensate as well.Well, my my sister Mary Works in development atPenn state she's, Benmoll futerated, but everybody else is GTI'm one o five kids. So I wont Sis ErLives, Ith, Philly, anothers brother lives here he's not involved with pencedate and another brot was den Hershey...

...and he's not involved either, but so between my sister and I and then my momstill very much involved hind help them raise money to elaboratend things likethat. That's good, EAP, the philantropy part is always big. I mean you R. Yourname carries a lot of weight. So just like we're friends with REVERTACommittie Junior, you know the Coliny name carries a lot of weight and a lotof people really like to see Riverto and when wehad him on our show he was our first guest we've ever interviewed. He talkedabout how it took him. A long time to realize that you know who he wasbecause when people would see him, they always thought of his dad right and I'msure you get a lot of that as well. Oh, no question and you know it's andyou don't really realize it growing up because you're not oldenough to really get your head around right and you know I had a friend of mine that Iwent to elementary school with and he knew my dad's name was Joe and he knewmy dad's name had something: Do he did something with football and he knewthat he was famous a he hot. My Dad was joe names. Well M, good, looing Gyan. I don'tthink I could handle ul. I don't think I can handle that as a Hus, but you know you don't really you know until you step back and areable to kind of see it from a different perspective. It's hard to reallyunderstand that that people look at you that way, and you know the soone you kind of get around thatand understand that and the sooner you start to do somethings on your own and people start to see you a little differently and h andthat's you know it's a constant tat's, a constant thing that you get on Ha,let's see if you're probably constantly at at least at the beginning, trying toprove yourself that I'm not here because of my dad, I I'm sure, there'ssomething to do with it, but Y, U you're worthy of whatever position:You're in and Bi, let alone your last name. You know! Well, you know when Ifirst came back to Penn state one of the other sistent coaches said to me.He said you know J. Just just remember. He said n this guy's, no close friendprevious that he said you know you're going to have to be twice asgood as anybody else, because the public perception and even perceptionsome guys within here. It's going to be your only here because your dad, so youknow you understand that good enough isn't necessarily going to be goodenough for some of these people. You got to go above beyond and I tried tocarry myself that way. It was great advice. You know I learned a lesson very early on. Youknow we had winter workouts I got I got hired. I think it was in February ofninety five and we had those six, a workouts and I went out to coach and Ihad twit pants on and my dad calls me over and says heck. I don't ever wantto see how theein practic Yo sqitions again you put on a pair of pants. Youknow ou a professional environment and I went okay. I looked around. Therewere like three other coaches and sweatpants and like insane emeabotbut,you know what never worse wet pas to a Sixa work at no, no, not if it waspretty Seasyo can't we can get away rimh shorts, but no sweat, but I neverwore sweat fans out of PRACTA. Ever again, Oh yeah, you don't you don'twant your dad coming down on you. I know ot and- and you know the otherthing too, that was funny is bill. Kenny was Oroffena Lico, the entiretime I was there and bill said he can just remember Jy. He said. Sometimesyou may not have been something wrong, but you dad knows you can handle himyelling at you, so he'll yell at you about something somebody else did orother guys is taff fere doing too. Just so they'll hear it and then they'llstop doing. I said: okay, I got you. I got O soy like that, but yeah I got youyeah. I always had that too, like the coach was going to yell a me because helikes you the best and he knows you can take it. I'm like well that doesn'tmake me feel any better. Like you know, Wen is chewing on my air and nobodyelse getting chewed on Wel. I don't...

...think my dad liked me best, but I thinkhe just felt like o like but like I could deal with it.You know- and you know we you know my dad- He loved argue an. I mean itdidn't matter. He every night, an dinner. We would end up. You know wealways hate the whole family, all five kids, my mom and dad it was going to befamily dinner, my Daddin at home off the pratic field of six thirty weeight,six, forty five seven o'clock when he got home but at the end of dinner hewould always towards the end there. He only start some discussion or argument,and it would just be you know, arguing our dishes are getting clars of peoplewe arguing and so, like I pen say you know we givim these coaches meetingsand you know how those go I mean EA. One coach wants to run this playanother coach once your blacket that way another guy wants to dothis and weget these disarguments and I would just keep arguing people like you know whatis with you to you guys, just love to argue, that's what we do, but there arecertain coachs you didn't, but so I did get definitely carried overthe COACHI part. Well, that's kind of like it goes back to where you get itall out, ot the table, and then you forget about it right. You leave thetable, you forget about it, you don't carry it on with you through the restof the night or the next day an I mean hat it to me. What arguings all aboutwith your family, you get it all out, speak your peace and there's! You know,there's nothing left absolutely. So what, as your dad more of a on offensive side defensiveside, Ialways wondered at because I didn't really know that about him. You know, or was he like kind of one ofthe guys that just kind of oversaw it all that his courtators work a'll give UF? I mean he really was mean.You know in sixty eight sixty nine. I think all the way up to like seventyoned. Seventy two. He called every offensive and defensive snap e games.Well, as if o coach I mean which you know, I look at that now I go how Godyeah now. Do you do that? He just did it and you know he startedup. People always thought he was more a offensive guy in terms of what he wasinvolved in, but he started out really, I think, was the summer between Siy sixand sixty seven. He went and he spent the whole summer really kind ofredesigning things that they did on defense and then you know obviously yehad some really good know. Great players came along like micrade andChat Hamen, guys like that, which you know. I don't know if intens x's knowsor its you said, SOM great playersand right, but you really reshape some ofthe things they did defensively and then you know then got more involved inoffense bbut. He was a guy that knew both sides of the ball. You know savings like that. Right now Imean saving as a guy that, if is, if I's defense line coach, got lost onthis way to practice Sav it we co, go coat, O dline for that practice, and Ion be off and my dad's that way as that way- and he was all over the practicefield. You know when we went out the PRAX field. You know he would kind of.Let us do our thing, but he would come and say hey. Why? Don't you tell him?Do that Er hey? Why is he reading it that way? He didn't we talk, you knowWut. He wouldn't really. Second Guess Yon in front of the players, but hewould make notes he come in afterpractice and say: Hey did TomBrote had? Why is the corner playing that post rout that way and he wouldsay Tho Bill Kenny? Why is the guard know what calls the guard making whenthey went a drump that kind o a Creetechnique we'r going to bring thetackle down and pull the guard and all he knew all those those INTERNAUC andcourse othe game same way and he jumped into t e game and say hey. He would letus, you know, call he game, but we would you know. Monday night, I put thegame plan in his mailbox or even facted to him. He still had a fack machineback then, and then he would come in Tuesday andsay on third and thre to six. You got too much third and Egti like this. Heyon your you know. Have we thought about this play that play hey. You got toomany things here and they go to defense and say hey when they're running thatzone play. How are we going to stunt so he was involved in everything and thenonce the game started he'd, let you call he game, but he would jump in andsay: Hey it's lance or hey the backside and is chasing. We got to run T at thebootlay, go off that or Recha in Tom. That guy can't cover this Guy...

Iremember. One time we were playingIndiana and Indiana, a really good defensive Ben. This guy named RassmRass Mussen, and we basically said at have time. Look we're not going to runa rast Muston anymore, because our tackle can't handlen. So we wererunning left Ron, the left front left and one time play comes in we're on thewrong hash and we gun to write rast Musti mix. PLIKE mive three and joecomes running down. He's Li told you guys we're not Goina Lon, it rasputandever again think he was ey short beere guy saidWelfast get to the game will be well run out of, but RESTUS WE AL ecause.You know what I meat. Let me he was. He was very much intouch with that stuff and flow the game and probably sow. I can't tell me TimsBill Kenny, would say: Hey Your Dad came down soi the garden, Miss that andthis an bils he didnt miss it. Then we look at the film and Bill would say, orDick Anderson say, do gon. He was right. It was the garden that play Hevun, seethat from the sideline the you know sidelines want to worst seats in hehouse right yeah that that's pretty interesting. So what is the one like ifyou get back into coaching? What's the one thing that you've learned from yourfather that you always think of when you, when you, when you go intocoaching? What was that one lesson that he taught you that you take with you? Well, I think one of the most importantthings it's easy to forget as a coach. Sometimes you know we would sit there and drop hey, we'llrun this player run that player. If they do this, we'll do that Wai. Theydo this and you do it on the back Kinof of Chalkboard, and it were two thingsyou said number one. You got to get the Chak last and basically always try andanticipate a step or two ahead of what the other guys can do. So, hey we'regreat running the sweet play. What are they going to do to take that away? Andthen what are we going? Do to hurt them when they take that away, and then hewould also say look guys all that stuff looks good in the blackboard. But it'snot what we know it's what they know can they handle all this stuff and hewould always cuts back and Saii'd rather be great at fewer things thanpretty good at a lot of things. I think so many coaches get caught up in thatwhere hey we want to be in spread, but we want to do this and we want to dothat and we're going to stand hat the lastgrimage on going to we're going to make our call and then let them adjust andwe're going to make our calln e can o- and you know sometimes youovercomplicate the game to where guys can't play fast. So thosetwo things really was, you know you want to put your kids in position placsfast as they can and you as a coach that anticipate two r three steps headof the onr Guy Right. Have you yourself thought about being a head coach yeah? I mean it got t the point where I thought about leaving Pentat, but Idon't you know I did not want to be somewhere else when my dad finallyfinished his career right, so I kind of made I you know would havebeen better had I left a couple years earlier, you know in two thousand andeight we hade great offensive football team. Magic people call about hey whenyou think about leaving, because we had really done some really good things,and I, U t you know I just don't feel like I want to leave and if I werecoking somewhere else and he was walking off thel last time. I don'tknow howhe then able to live with myself. You know just to not be part ofthat, but you know so. I wouldn't trade,those memories I have in those times I had with them for anything. Soobviously I get back in the coach and work my way up atd love to behead coach,because I really think that one of the good things about being away from thegame is. I really appreciate what I had and also have it's given me someperspective to look back on some things and evaluate where I was and where Icould go, valet stay and play on your next getaway to Los Angeles, thewestern Bondeventure, hotel and swueits offers efforliss access to all the cityof angels has to offer whether you're hoping to catch a concert or sportingevent. Our hotels just moments away from all the action and accessible toHollywood, beaches, museums and theme parks. The package includes a guestroom and valet parking for reservations, use promocode PSF in the codebox whenmaking your online reservation or call...

...one two hundre three six, two four onethousand and ask for Promo Code PSF right, so Yeahi can't imagine the change you'veseen in Penn state from time of your little till now, yeah, how like thestadium a everything around it and and just explain a little bit like thatprogression of pet, say you being such a part of it for so many years. Well, like the first year I had seasontickets. I was four going on five capal Etdy was the tail back and I went withmy brothers and sisters and we sat in the enzone waitress, because the endzone was open right n. It was four five bucks. I think it was four bucks, agame and my mom. Let me go because I was theone kid that would actually sit down and watch a game start to finish. Euanthen- and so you know- I remember that and they closed it in, but the thenther used to be a kid section of Wa six bucks, a game and the stadium went fromsixty thousand a seventy seven than it went to eighty fivetousand that it wentto ninety some hoand ou hundred sevenzandand. You know, six bucksdoesn't get your hot dog anymore and rea now get your bottle of water. Ithink so. Obviously, that Partos Change, Ithink the TV Coverad is changed and so much around it is changed andsome of th ere good. So we're not for nothing better. Some. You know, I thinkthe game in some ways the money's gotten so big and obviously there'sgoing to be big changes in terms of NCA with student athletes and what they can,what they can make and what they can do, which is a whole mother. You could doeight shows on what that could entail right, but you know just seeing it change andis been really a lot of fun. I think the etail gating is remained consistent,though it's one of the best places it's got to be outside to State Tuntn,believables, yeah man, that's that's! The NEAT thing is now not coaching. Inow know why everybody Watchs Tailgig. So much, although I don't know whe, youknow Winter Night Games, friends of mine, like yeah, we're going up at nineDM and I'm like what do you do for Nin twelve hour mt like O, we play cornol play, stumpime then got games. I got we ome, it's like o. We cat like. I had no idea anthis was going on wile. I was coaching, no people, eveer, claners and couch,and everything I mean it's. There are Feeni iy guess, go sleep in bed foranother two hours, take a nap an go back. I hold up dance fors, an stuffit's on when I was a kid and I used to go up with my uncle Paul when we gowatch Mitchplay and play Teshang Kyle and all those guys, a D, and we used topark right by the locker rooms Ho and I think, that's all changed kind of noutfrom back in the early s but yeah we would park there. That's where we KOgate like right, where the players would come out. I think they used toget on a bus to go to the stadium Yep and then they would come out likecommember being a little kid hi, five and them Alland and Mik Mal. My unclesEyd Make Penn state. My Dad was one of fifteen kids so and my uncle Paul was this guy. Hedidn't care if it said no entry players only. He was going in there and I Iused to take him to all my training camps from the NFL and inevitablydoring practice, I'm out in the middle. Taking a snap and I'd see my dad or myuncle's talking to a coach on the field, I'm like how he el me get out of here.They just you know, I don't know where they just came out like long that'swhat they did, but I couldn' always remember fit. They did the same thingup there we'd be in a late room, we'd be in the lock room, Thay Dain't care.We were everywhere, it was so much fun yeah. You know now you know witheverything being so controlled and so much you know, especially since o'bieSixinc, nine, eleven som, the other thing, security now Itas different times and some ways itwas a lot better because ther was better access. You know you could be around the teamand kids. You know everything is so...

...scripted now, whereas back then youknow, like you said, you just end up high five and guys like Shane Comonpeople like that and Ik yeah, and you still remember that, and you knowthat's. I hope we know you know so. There's a love of the game, aconnection, the game, the way things are now. I W what it cost shoul take afamly, a game now versus then you know, I hope we don't lose e next generationbancs, because I right well caml was telling us about going up to the whatgame was that can Michigan the Michigan game? He I don't even think he went tothe game. You just went to what bar was hat Iwas itti pickles wherever picklesis, but he said it was packed. The whole game and like two hundred tosandpeople come out of campus for a game. It's insane yeah there' a lot of peopleha chow up without tickets and they don't care. They just want to be intent.You know that's the thing it's gotten. The biggest like a white out has becomelike a bucket list item protolsool Balman. In fact, one of the things Isaid to some other people, the Universiy a said. You know the stadium is not as loud in thatwiteout game as it was ten or fifteen years ago. We first started doing thebig white out games. He Sai waned, give Visi tourist cause, we need tourds. Igo because there are people. I can't tell I met a guy was okahowith man andHa Texas Mans. I met all these fans Om other schools. I said what are youdoing? Eris? Oh, this is a Bucke list for me and I paid x amount to ARB ANDBand I paid him. I mean so they're not as invested in the game yeah. They weartheir white stuff, but they're not as invested in the outcome of the game,whereas ten years ago, when it was all penn state fams- and I was just Listengto Paul fine bomb- show the other day and they're soming about you know eightyears ago, when Iwas she played Alabam when they were one to that they askmade. There were fifty or sixtythousand fans in Tuscalusa who didn't go to thegame. Well, and you know, and that's that's happening- it's like it's. Theyjust want to go up and see Game Day in Hespn Game Day and go bet around tallgate, and you know now wit sanlike TV lot, F, tem just sit in the parkandwatch and watch the game ontoa. So they don't even have to you know so. They're there they feel likethey're, part of it. Yeah I went to Lsu was a LS gave him in about the maybetwo thousand and six or so, and it like the guy was saying. Our cab driver waslike it's a hundred zand an it's easily a hundred hzand out and the tail gating.We got there in a Thursday night and there was about I'm no joke. Likefifteen housand people, tail gating on a Thursday night, I mean it was just itwas the most insane thing. Yeah Yeah I mean there's just some schools. Yes, wetalked to Dana Falk who who she wrote. The whole tell gating a hot of cook forTallgang and all that she talked about. I mean it's just such a big thing.Every weekend, nowh, you know especially college, is way bigger, Ithink than the NFL or anybody else. Yeah, and you know there are evencompanies now that contract with schools and they have an area andthey'll park, a bunch of rvs there and basically they're hired out tocorporate clients. Ou tjust people with too much m more money than sense, andthey basically say you know just show up at Sevenm, we'vegot rb parked, we got Tho location, we've got the food and you just bringyou and your guests, and we do everything. I'm like like that to me is like that's justwrong, but you know, but you look at the lake some of these people go. Ijust saw an article about one of the RV areas at Penn state and these guys hadan inflatable hot tum, so the seem to blow Thi Ting up and they plug it inthe generator and it heats the water they get. I'm like we. Where do I getthe water ididn't? I didn't didn't say in thearticle where they got the water from whut e. It mightit may be beer, youknewver p. They wouldn't wa PR by Soin. So whatare some of the big charities? You're involved with no Jay? Well, my mom isvery very involved in Special Olympics, so we do subspecial Lumpics. We done stuff withdance marathon of the pen state and still obviously some thingsporpensotate and turn to raise money...

...for them, but the special onpic is the thing th tthe State Special Olympics is. I thing in my mom has been involved with thirtyyears and she does a cruise now, every year old, at Elly Cruise, where I thinkCranko Harris goes on it. Let you lie ot Mitchell's going to goon a bunch of former penctate players, brandon short western Pa Guy, as well as suformer, coaches and stuff.So she's done that and she's just men and she's, not one of those people that just gets into something lightly. She's.In that thing up to rieballs and as a result she makes us all do it. We do afever stadium run where it's a fivk that finishes going through the tunnel.Like a fifty yard line a you know several hundred runners, it e raisesfour hundred Ousanddolla epecial Olympics every year. So a lot ofdifferent things t were involved in Mostof, because my mom really drivesthe bus. OALL S, Hey you're, going to get onl this thing and help us and, andthat's those are the big things. W've been aboll and if you don't she's goingto be arguing with you at the table, Whye, you should right, but it wasn't o.You Know Mea, whether yet your mom or whether it's your wife, whatever it issomething like you know, you're going to lose. So just don't fight it justsay: okay, mom I'll. Do it all right, all right, okay, J! So one of the lastthings we do here we have a lightning round with you. We call it the Nohud ortwo minute drol, whatever you want to call it, but we fire some questions atyou and try to have a little fun so Dav once you start all right, Jabe. If youcould trade places with anyone in the world for a day who would that be nd?It can be any time in history. Oh my God, I have no idea iwoud, say probably Nick Jagger. Iwould love to sing for of stones for a while. That would have been nice.What's your biggest pet peeve biggest pet peeve ECAUS Lord people, who can't getundersandator on a quarterback snake, I think that's most of the NCA now bell.I know I we don my sons in ninth grade football. They never l, they're, neverunderstander, like you're in nint grade reckine, Damni whatdyou. What's yourcoach teaching you guys it's like you cun you don't you can do both. You knowlike it's not that hard Ben Awac yeah the best pizza at Ann State. Now ourproducer Cam says brothers, that's his Tho! What's your brothers brothers isaround the corner. For me very, very good. A FACHALUNA is another place inochalodait's, really good too. All right. What is your favorite sportsmovie? Oh Geez, favorite sports movie, good! Look! I Boll dern Ros on theother night, which is probably comedy wise, that exact be right there. I havea Sawce spox in the movie whosers, because my dad took me to see it aswell as remember the Tates, and I remember the titans. We took the wholeteam to the night before a game and- and my dad was sitting across the aislefrom me, so the probably those ones would be the ones if you could be thepresident of the NCA for a day. What rule change would you make Jeez? Let's see, hat's a tough ONA, jis re lightinganser. I think right now it would be to. I don't know if Ittenteay a rule change,but I would like to be one of the people overseeing how this wholeCalifornia legislation stuff as going to get implemented, because I don't think anybody n an say, N I'vehad the discussion with people, a pence datad. I wrote a calm a couple weeksago for stay colgecom about how to exploit this new loophole and I don'tthink theyhave any idea what's coming, because everybody thinks it's going tobe. Oh will e only be a handful of players who get endorsement deals. What this is going to end up being isyour top running back in the country in eleventh trades kind of an agent andhe's gonna want appearance fee set up by the school, and it's not going to begoing toug gateray. It's going to be...

...just imagine a guy like two at Alabama.If he could make appearance money, how many sweet sixteen birthday, parns andweddings do you think Alabama one higher in fifteen twenty grand popright to show up that he might pick up half a million the summer just doingthat stuff. So I mean I'd like to be involved me and say to make sure theyget this thing right. All Right, so you've seen a lot of amazing players.Very talented players come through Penn state. If you could pick four. What'syour Mount Rushmore of Penn State football players? Oh my God, you Gointo get me killed! THISIS, Hey! It's a tough question! You be killed, Wel, there's too many tolimit TOFOR, but I'll, throw for just offtop of guys that I coach you playedwith a shape. Tolan would definitely be on that. Lest me, he was, you know: I'm not goinosinyor takesbest line back ever play fensin because again, it's too hard to cross genresright o generations, but I never saw a bay better than hewas an. He was just he's, tough as tough as nails, Michea Robinson Ho Icoached quarterback was a guy who just a tremendous leader and really took ateam over right. My Dad says: Tha. We never saw a betterfootball player, thanlany more going back. You know when Sakuan Barkli's playing two yearsago, so we see well, you know he returns, kicks and returns, punts and Rand and he catches the ball or he runs inte football and I see will let Mimore did all that inplatne every snap, the defense in college we at Oh, Ididnt realize that I shou that's Tueget ten carris Agam Yeah. Imean why let morlike get take cares the game. Why? Because you play you know, Isixty seventy staps O defense, rigt at', yeah, Lany, more Shane, Conlin, michRobbins, I'm forgetting somebody. I know mibein trouble, but if I limi justas some guys like that- Oh God Dang You'r, killing me now because I don't say frank o Harris,he'll kill me Mike Monjack was one of the great offens Li'm in history of the game andobviously Gott have that Jack Haml ill run into you. Kill me by DOT Mettinyougotta. You gotta have more than four on that Moun Rush Wor, but that's justthose just guys off the top of my head. No, those are good ones that gives agood taste tou. What's in Thost, underright underratedaspect of state college or Penn State that people may not know about. Well, I think, there's a you know.Everybody thinks rather in the Middle Nowhene, there's nothing to do. There'sso much going on here I mean you know: You've got a great hockeyprogram now, so you got hockey games. You got all kinds of we. Obviouslyfootball is part of the sports stuff, but I mean the concerts that comethrough here, because we have Jordan Center. Now it's a great place to raisekids, so manly gos are probably things peoplerealize, but stick out. You have all the things you would you o l get in thebig city without some of the hassles in the traffic. What is the best bar in State College,because I know they're for for they're known for some pretty good placeas togo havea clere's, a coupl, er yeah, I would say right, wel well, Chams getsOthis is Bor. Downtown Champsot gets a lot of pressind pub right now, but I would tell you that Eo canprobably Shakin sed over there, because he knows what I'm talking about, but there's place called Doggies, whichused to be the old Raskelly yeah h the people that own it are friends of mine.So if I don't say them I'll get in trouble, I they've done a great jobrenovating it and then they built a big outdoor beer garden in the back, whichis really really unique, setup in environment and in fact they have a bigprojection. Unit now and Wen pessa plays night games, places just packedfor kids, all twenty one, of course, but butthey've got extact with and then steelers you name it eagles. Whateverit is, I ut's a good spot. ATS US and...

...that's Exactlye can predictad you'd sayhe said e said Doggies that used to be the Rasskeller and then the next dayafter maybe a long night. There maybe stop at the waffle shop, yeah, walvshots a good breakfast and then the corner room has an early bird special,which they just raise it to four dolrs and twenty five cents e o Theyre,making a feeing it was like. Well, it was two nine five until like two months ago which killed me, I wentWai Way: Our D twenty five. You can't raise pitn to egg hash browns a twopiece of toast for O Hudred N, Ninety five until just about five months ago. Okay, what about the best recruit thatgot away someone that comes to mind and we go God. I thought we had him and weended up going somewhere else. Oh God, that's hard t atar to guess, becauseyou know with the minute they commit somewhere else and like the hell withyou, you know. I think that the ones that get away that there areones that got away from us that I really wished we had gotten, because Ithink we may have been able to Doa a better job for them and and that's nota criticism where they went and and it's not a coinsince. Both of them wentto high state, but I thought Torel prior had he come to penn state andreally kind of sad of here before all that Hu, you know n AD matured a littlebit might have helped them not that Heid have a bad career. He a greatcareer Higho statement and that kind of stuff, but I felt like and then MauriceClaret was another one. We rel we were. We really had him as a sophomore in hisjunior year when tressell got the job he committed to Higo State Wen, do Gan,get them and again ou w some kids do well in city environment, other kidsdon't, and I thought our environment would avebee better for both of those guys to be here where we keep a little bit better,an Hig on them. But again you know tell at a great career: That's not takeanyway from what he didn' have state and Marage Cloret. I really feel likeone could have helped him out in terms of matury process. Maybe youknow when he was Aur. You know he's a freshman. IAV stay put him in a roomwith a CCDSPN recorder and he aske. He do you think you could be a one anddone and he did he said Yeah, whereas we've been like okay, give us a thirty.Second Time I get over you're not going to answer my question. You know wher,don't get into that and you K that cut. That kind of took a life of its own,and people have sti presented the fact that he did that big ESPN magazineArticle He was taking the Jersey off and throwing down and that wouldn'thappen to Yourn, probably help Tom Wo right right. Okay, last one Jy, if youcould go back untel a younger J Pechara one thing: What would that one thing be probably just enjoy every minute,because you know you think that things are going to be forever and you thinkthat you know you don't realize when you'recoaching you get into that week to week and the Games are flying byind, theyears ore flying byand, the next thing you know you're thirty, five years old,then you're forty years old tan before ye back, and you don't realize t you'remissing time with your kids, your missing time with, but you assule. It's always going to bethat way, and I think one of the best things that's happened to me in thelastic seven years is: I have that understanding, appreciation of what?How poson really wants to be a part football and coach. My Dad and my dad was good. He he sai to Mei.Just remember you know when you're home be hume, and you know Hedon't just bethere physically, be there there mentally, and I was good with it mostof the time. Tbut there were times now, I'm like I wove say. Don't you rememberthis and like no, I don't and I feel bad about that. But that would be some things I you knowjust just enjoy it right, ige it well. Thank you for goinge and share story sgreat needin you and we really enjoy it hey. We want thank you for join uptoday on hot ofwit Gus, where we talk to Wite, Mag, guess as always y great fre OAKEAND. We wantyou to be able to follow us on all of...

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