Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

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Jarrod Bunch

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Former 1st round draft pick in the NFL, a Michigan Wolverine, and most currently, a Hollywood actor and high school football coach, joining the Huddle is JARROD BUNCH! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Check, one two, one two, check, one two, one two. Good sports content. Listen to guses huddle up with Gus. That was while Dave. How do you think you would do against George Foreman in a ring? It just the for the duration. It wouldn't last long. If I like, do you think you could just run away from them for a while, for a little bit, but then he would say call you, check in, and you'd have to. But is reached ought I mean I would he be exhaust after like thirty seconds and then it would just did. Okay, let me ask you. What about if you were in the ring with somebody who just played George Forman in a movie? If I know who you're talking about, I think equally as long, if not less. I think he's even, probably quicker than George himself. Well, I don't think George played and in college football or in the NFL, but this guy did. Number one pick. Number one pick was a wolverine. Came from a small school and asked you boola Astra, Ash Ashtra, Budha Ohio? We don't really know how to say that. We're from Pittsburgh, so we'd probably Eastern Hi, insignificant US in Western PA. Who you said it's kind of like Cleveland. It's same thing. Yeah, not even so. We got jared bunch on this week and you know, it's just another amazing story of a guy who just broke barriers and overcame a lot of obstacles in transition to himself into something he probably didn't expect he'd be doing when he first started his well, yeah, you got to think like hey, if you're like he's The star and his high school, right, first player ever to go division one, yes, in football, and he's saying I'm be football player of my whole life. Mean, we all said that. I said that I played a long time. You know, I felt like a long time. But you know, here's a guy who goes a Michigan, has a good career, Springs Ohio state, even though it's in this backyard. Yeah, you know, I can't wait to hear about that. You know how he just basically said bye bye to the Buckeyes and hold hello to the Wolverine and Hell Michigan, to hell with Ohio state, and he'll Michigan. Yeah, all right, right, it gets drafted, then he goes. You know, he has as a career that a lot of people have in the NFL injuries, battling through want to be great. We started off very promising. He was the giant's offensive rookie of the year, right, so things were really trending up, as they say, and then knee injury happens and it's the south from that point right. But the amazing part is, is what we talked about all the time on our show, is the people that we've interviewed so far. Things like that never hold them back. They just keep moving on and doing something else great. Well, I think a lot of people that may be listening today aren't even aware of what we spoke about. They just know him from his TV shows and movies. Yeah, and now I mean his dozens of movies, dozens of TV shows, commercials, commercial I think. I think I read where he's been in a hunter commercials, you know, and just has out that that look, that attitude, and I think he's just done some many amazing things. And going back to what we started with, Played George Forman in a movie, and I mean if if people go out and look at him and look like he's built like, they probably went last couple, you know, thirty seconds in a ring with them. Either well, I think those kids he's coaching now, he's now coach for Beverlyll's high school, probably don't know any of the stuff we talked about. They just know him as coach. They just know him as coach and that's the great thing and and hopefully we can share a little story of their coach and they'll listen to us out in La. Looking forward to it, looking forward to it. So join US right here and huddle up with us today. On Huddle up we have jared bunch where those Dave an amazing story. Lots to talk about. So let's get started and bringing the httle. Jared Bunch. Jared, thanks for coming on with us. We really appreciate it. I appreciate you have me as great to be on and have some conversation with an old colorades I know it is. It is so much tried play in a golf tourner me yesterday at alleghaty national or allegating country club,...

...and a lot of old guys that are from this area that played for the steelers and all around and it it's so good to catch up with people that kind of have been there, you know, in your shoes and done what you've done, and so it was a lot of fun and we really appreciate you coming on and and the first thing we always asked them what we want to talk about is when you were living in Ashtonbule. I think I said that right hot time. What was the influence? What started you in sports? Well, I was the youngest kid on the block, so I had an older brother and we, you know, back then, and we'll talk about the S, we love to play football out on the street and I was the smallest kid playing against all the older kids and bigger kids and I wanted to play and I got tough by playing gets out all the guys. When it came time for me to play against kids my age, I was like, who Oh, you can't, you can't, you can't cover me, you can't tackle me, you know. So became very competitive that every time I went to play I was either the big kid on the block or the little kid on the block, and that just something that stuck with me all the way through. I saw that I could use it to my advantage, to take advantage of my position. You know, I was a big running back even in littlely. So did you play all sports growing up? I asked yes, and actually I was. I love football and baseball. I was a really good baseball player. To what positions you play in baseball? I play center field, set billed picture, I clean up. You know, I was a big hitter and most people thought that I would be a baseball player because of how good I was. I played, you know, all star team. We almost went to the world series when I put thirteen year old. We lost in the nationals, but I always thought that I would be a baseball player. You know, I love I wasn't a foot I wasn't a big football fan, I guess. Were you a brown stand though, if you're being a northeastill high? Well, I was a browns fan because when I played little league, the very first game that I saw professional game that the Little Lake coach took us all to Cleveland browns game and I met Great Crewitt and Mike Prewitt and from that point I was just like, you know, Brown's Fan. That was back when, you know, Brian Sipeen and may I mean it was, you know, the cardiac kids. So I loved the Cleveland Browns. My town was either Cleveland Brown or Pittsburgh steels. There was it was it all a higher state? It was a lot of Ohio state. Nobody was Michigan. Nobody period was Michigan. I we had some the people who did follow football. o. How state was it as far as college football goes, but there was only a few that went to house state, you know. So there really wasn't a lot of banners and all other stuff. But it's just just fans. I never want. I never the reason why I didn't like how state was. I was from Ohio. I played my high school. We were not a good team. We want two games. My senior year, when I was in the eighth grade to the high school team won their first game in five years. They were Owen fifty and one, the first game in five years. My brother was on that team and we just weren't a good team. We so when I started playing, I started as a sophomore. Both ways I would make all county, all all league for three years, but I never rushed with thousand yards. So how state never came? Like they started recruiting me because other schools recruited because North Carolina, Michigan, Virginia, West Virginia, they started group. They know how stay was like. Oh, okay, they never you know, it's like. So I was like, you know, you guys aren't happy, you know you don't want me. I don't go to you. Right, it's too late at that point. Yeah, yeah, you know. I went to I went to one game, you know, as a recruiting trip, but I was like that why you hear those stories all the time, because I left Pittsburgh and went to Tulsa and all you know, Pitt and never cruited me. Penn state wanted me to play linebacker, but that was like way after I was getting recruited by everybody else. So you do. I know how you feel and you get that feeling of they don't want me and it's too late. Now...

I'm going to go somewhere else. It's too late. Yeah, yeah, you know. And I was actually recruited by Michigan as the first school that sent me a letter and my first quarterback coach with the Redskins was Cam Cameron, who's at Michigan. I can't when my first year a Michigan Kim was a graduate assistant. Right, right, exactly. So he was recruiting me out of high school and I said, can what happened? Man? I was getting these letters. I was so excited. He goes, well, we got the quarterback that was better than you and I started laughing. I said okay. So then once they got him, you know, we throw your stuff in the trash. I like, but I was really exil. I was hoping I get to go over to be a wolverine. But yeah, so you do all these great things. You're playing sports. Now. Was Your family and really involved in everything you were doing? Yeah, my mother and father they divorced when I was twelve. My father we still he still came to my games and supported me when he could. But my biggest issue in going from junior high and high school was that it was a small town to school. The football team wasn't really good and no one had ever, ever gone on and earned a scholarship to go to it depends one school. So when I was playing, it was like why would, why would anybody come watch you when we could? Anybody recruits you. And what was happening is I started compet competitive weightlifting and I was running track, and so they would see this big guy who was winning all of the weightlifting competitions, throwing the shot, winning shot, and then go win the hundred and then run the the the anchor on the four whnt relay and win. And so I want a hundred in the at the region. was going to state and then like, who is this guy? Sold you what you run? Would your time? The schools were going to the other schools and the other schools were saying, you gotta check out this guy in ast you bula. I mean he's winning all these competitions, beating us. You gotta go check them out. So that's how they started. It was more like what I was doing off the football field and I was a good student. I was A had a three. So they would like, Oh man, it's yeah, it's right in our own where. I read some more. You pull vaulted, is that true? Or I had the school record in Poul vaulting. You must have been the biggest pole vaulter in the world at that point. I mean, what's you know? And and I did it as a sophomore. I set the school record as a sophomore. I was and I waited a hundred and eighty five pounds and I did thirteen six and I got, you know, the next year when I was like one hundred and ninety five, two hundred, I would just do pole volting if we needed the points. So I would run and do throw a shotting the biggest, my biggest it was the disc and and when we needed points, I would do it. So, but so, what was your best what was your best time in the hundred tonight? Ten nine for good night. Yeah, tonight, but I didn't run that and I want to regionals. That basically letting, flat letting. And then when I went to the next right before state, and I ran a slow time, you know, and I came in like fifth. So I didn't make it. But then I went. That's what I went to state in the disc oh well, yeah, this is hard to throw. It's hard to Dick, is it? It takes talent. You better be able the right way too. That's not that's pretty amazing. And then, you know, so your parents got divorced from your twelve. So I also read that you had an accident with the lawn mower when you were a kid too. So what happened there? Five years old, I wanted a gold cart, so we had a we had a riding lawn more so I thought I was going to use the riding lawn more as my go cart and took the ride and go lamber out with a friend neighborhood trend and we argued over who was going to be driving and he started driving it and I stood in front of it and he ran over my but so it took I was blessed that, you know, it only took out one of my toes. I could have took off, you know, all of them, but it took up one and I was able to know at five. I don't know what how I thought about it, but I ran into the house...

...and put my foot and water and then they ambulance came and it ended up that okay. I mean I still have had issues all throughout football, I mean with my feet, but it work. It could have been a lot worse. Not many first round draft picks and the NFL are missing a digit on their feet. Yes, we interviewed Rocky Blyer and you know rocky story about being in the military. So people can still make the NFL with part of their feed missing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's rough, hard I had to be, you know, but that's a you know, when you're young, we always say this, when you're young, you can overcome those kind of adverse situations because you just gotta go. You're going to hell have injuries, it's harder to overcome them, mentally as well as emotionally. I'm getting that right now. I'm getting it right now, right now. Well, jared, now you're having a successful high school career and multiple sports. When did you start getting the recruiting we were talking about earlier? When? When did they start sending you letters? And you knew you easy, had a good feeling you could play? Well, when I was a sophomore, then they didn't allow freshman to play on Varsity. So when I was sophomore I started both ways and I started getting I remember my first letter I got was from Weber State. We were staying and you asked me a question. Where you going to school? I was going to we were staying. That's in you taught right. Yeah, THAT'S THE WAY OUT IN UTAH. Yeah, yeah, so that was my first letter and my athletic director at the time he said, I want you to come in tell me all the schools that you want to go to. I want you to. I'm help you write a letter. Tell him just to put you on their radar and he said I'm going to personally make sure that each school gets your the letter, that you do right, and so I did that and then some other I started getting some letters as a junior and because of my athletic director, then they really just started started pouring in and again because of our program. That was unheard of there. You know, we were we were terrible and there was nobody was dedicated. But they saw that I worked out all the time when I wasn't in a sport. I even stopped playing basket ball to dedicate my time to football weights and try to get faster, get faster for football, and that was one of the things that the recruiter said that really attracted them to seeing what I how I was handling what was going on school. So what was that time period where you said, look, I'm going to go for football, this is what I want to do, this is who I want to be, and you gave up baseball because you said earlier that you really wanted to. You Love Baseball as well and you want to play baseball to well. As a freshman, baseball season was the same as track, and I know I wanted to run track, so I had to put a baseball again and then it became the following my solfhomore year, I said, okay, I need to really put more time in it. So me playing football, going right into basketball, going ready to track, gave me no time to do a lift. You know, have about a period of just pure lifting and trying to get faster. So my solhomore year I said I'm not playing basketball anymore, so I'll go football, weight training, track and then back in the football. And that was what the real was, the being able to make the decision that, instead of trying to do all three, you know, let's focus on one and make sure that I can improve. I always pick like one part of my body that I wanted. Next year, at this time, I went to see improvement here, and next year at this time, I want to see improvement here. And because I did that and it kept staying in my mind, you know you have to get this done. If you done one thing that I started from my first trainer. First trainer was a man that lived in the house, lived in the city, and he told me you have to train like it is the only thing that is important. is his exact words. Well, you got to think that you miss a day. It's like the devil was going to get you. That's how important you got to make it so from freshman year until college, from Sunday to Thursday, every Sunday to Thursday, I did push up in the morning before I left the house and push ups at night before I got into bed every four four years, one day,...

Sunday through Thursday, and at them. When I started off I was doing twenty five. By the time I got to college I was doing a hundred straight and it was it was the thing that it was one of those things that he told me, when you make it this important, than nothing be of stop. Well, he was the one that put that in still that type of training in the and his son was a player who was used about seven years older than me, and his son went to Miami Universe in Miami and he played football there. And then his his other he had he had four sons and they had twins and actually they live here in California to their trainers. They're fifty. I'm fifty, so they're like fifty seven, but they they're still in great shape. There their trainers to the stars now they still work out and do a routine every day, even from all these years. They still do it, and it was that him who teld me how to what I needed to do. That was the biggest influence of how I worked. was to prepare. My Athletic Director was the biggest influence of how I can get see. And then, putting those things together with the experiences that I had from the the town, some for me, most against me, was what I wanted to push to say, to prove either prove them wrong or to prove them right, and that would prove the people proved right. was like my mom, my dad, my family, my church family. I my church family was a big, big influence. That's why, when I signed my my first contract, I gave a hundred and ten hundred, twenty thousand dollars to my church. That's great. Tell us about the first time you that a coach, i'mback lerer now, must have been wild, see from after rule. And then chemback clerk, I've magic, came into your living room, or came into a living room, and he came and met with myself, my mother, and I didn't, you see, I didn't know the extent of his popularity, you know, and so when I was telling people, you know, those shimpacts coming up with my house tonight. They were like what? No, you know, and it was I mean when he came in. What was different about him and other guys is he is a straight up, straight shooter. He didn't give Bs. He was like look, your son is good, I want them. I'm going to make sure he gets a degree. And my mom, he is the one that got my mother really because he's like, I'm going to make sure that he does everything right. You See, where our program is about teaching the kids to become men and I'm going to make sure that he becomes a man and he's going to do it the right way. We're not we don't cheat. A mischian. He don't do it the Michigan Way. And that's when he said that to my mom. She would like okay, yeah, she wasn't have anywhere else. Right, I would. My mission was not my first choice. What was your first joy? I was I was I had made my decision that I was born in University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. Yeah, and and the reason, but the reason why I was going there is because the campus was so olden nice. You know, it's beautiful and the way the women there and when I was there was like Whoo, and then I started thinking, man, it's going to be really hard to concentrate and stay focus with all these distractions. So, and my mom would say, you know, if you order North Carolina, I could only come there few maybe once a year, but if you went to Michigan, we can get we can come to a few games. And this is a matter of fact. From my house to Anne Harbor is closer than my house to o House state. Wow, tone, that's pretty good, you know. And if you go south the women were less closed and if you go to Michigan they're always bundled up, so you don't get to see him ever. Understand you're thinking in that you really we're focused on football, but you mentioned before that you talked to Cam Cameron. You knew who he was. He was my first quarterback coach at the Redskins. They had really good pro style offenses at Michigan when you were playing. You think that you learned a lot before you got to the NFL about how to really play the game when you went to Michigan? I think yes, and I think it's because at the time and the style of football what it was, you know, you know offense is changed a lot all the time and and Michigan man and back then in the S, it was about run first. That's all I said.

You got to run. Established the run, established the run to open up the pass. We ran the ball eighty percent of the time. I mean there there was drives that we would have one pass. You we can have a two thousand and twenty plate drive and be one pass, two passage maybe, but we just ran, ran, ran, ran, and that's it. It had passed. Who was your who was your quarterback? My first year of quarterback was hardball, okay, Hardball, and then heat when he graduated. The next year it was a guy named Michael Taylor and Demetrius Brown. They were there for a couple of years, three years, and then my my fifth year, it was elviscreback. It was Elvis's first year. Now I did horrib I treat an incoming freshman. It was great. Man. I had a great time with him then and was still I mean we still would talk. I mean it was it was a great situation at Michigan all around, with with the school, with the program, with the weight training, with the support that they had, with the support from. You know that Michigan Man Mantra. As long as you worked hard, you okay. But what what bow did was if you didn't work hard, he did not like you and he told you didn't like you. You could fix it if you started working hard, he would, he would start warming up to you, but if you didn't, he take you straight up. I don't like you you don't work hard. I bet that wasn't just on the field either. Probably had to be in the classroom as well. Well, that's one hundred percent. That's it. Yeah, that, that is it. That is it. He he if you didn't do things in school, he didn't like you either. You know, he was a he was that type of coach and it was just it was good. I mean I see why a lot of schools like me because of my academic background, because once you get to college, there is nobody it's going to make you get out of bed, make you go to class, make you did this. You have to do that yourself. And we had guys that were a students in high school it got there and just couldn't get out of bed and had had to send a home. Yeah, Hey, every year that happens. And I had that happened to me in college as well. Just sit's just not made for for some people. Two roommates from Philadelphia. They went back home. They couldn't handle it. Yeah, that's that's that's it. Bowl was the one. Bow was a type that was like, Hey, I'm going to tell you right off the bat. If you can't handle it, you going home. So you're going through college. You left high school. There was a smaller jared in high school. I assume he got a lot bigger by the time you were senior college. Yeah, I I was always, always a weightlifting know. I mean so when well, I forgot one of the things in high school is one of the things that got me a lot of attention was, I said, a world record in weightlifting my junior year. So that really open up. So I was always big. When I what was the world record? I did deadlifting in a competition of how State Championship, Ohio Championship, I was sixteen years old. I weigh a hundred and ninety eight pounds and I did lift the six hundred. That's crazy, six hundred. So that got me a lot of attention, you know, and I always but I always trained and so when I got to college, I wait to ten, two fifteen and so every hour. So the first year was to fifteen, second he was two twenty seven, thirty years to thirty five, fourth year was two forty two, and you know fifth year. So that it was just like that. So so what was it like the first time you walked in that weight room at Michigan compared to Ashton Belle is high school way? And I could I couldn't believe that this is what a weight room really looks like. I used to work out at the Y MCA. We had we had a univer personal machine with the four things and ask you bula universal was. That was our weight lit room. That was our weight room. So when I got to Michigan and then I got a both parts, when I first got there where there was still in the little facility, a little house, and my fifth year, my senior and fifth year, they had built Sin Backla Hall. So that was that was even better than but before and now if you go back there now they redid that...

...and that's even it's how about how about the difference in Game Days Between Ashriviuela? I don't know how many got people. You had a a tenants are and a hundred plus thousand in Michigan. Wow, man, you know, the first time walking through that tunnel and you see you know you're in the that big place, that big stadium. It's you have to get. The coaches would tell you. I mean, and I had terl Burton was my running back coach, and he he really was good about talking about what you need. Look, we're playing in a huge place. Don't worry about all eyes on you. All you gonna do is make sure you do your job. We're running one play. You have a specific job to do for that one play. If you just stick there, you're okay. Don't worry much other stuff. It takes a little while to get that. And my very first play, very first play, when I was playing after my richer year chickoff return team, I started looking up and, you know, looking like Oh yeah, all that. I was all pumped up and I got woof very first play, you know, the kickoff, man, if the biggest, biggest hit of my entire career was that very first play. Woke you up. It was not good. Welcome to the big town, I guess. I'm yeah, yeah, who was it against? It was just Notre Dame Oh yeah, Notre Dame, and I remember a guy's name with brandy wells, and you remember his name? Yeah, you got the lightest play that truck that hit you. Oh Oh man. And what I did bowl like the for the helmets to be really tight. So he would tell everybody to pump it up really hard so it's really tight around your head. And that was through camp. So for the game, like I'm going to take this air out, let it be comfortable, and I took all the air out. Oh Yeah, did your helmet come off? It took all their out of my helmet. was like, you know, yeah, and so after that play my hair, my helmet is always pumped up with a lot of yeah, hey, live and learn, I guess. So you had a lot of success at Michigan as a team. You guys went to how many rose bolves? Three, maybe three? We went two, three. Yeah, we won for biking championship while I was there. We want our out right or time for and we won one and lost two rose bowls, and one of those rose bolves was chembeckler's last game. Right, that's the one. You look. We did lose that to USC and that one was a rough one. That was. That was a hard one because we should, we could have won that one. To should we should have won that game. We should have won the game, but it just didn't work out. You know, last last drive always hurts you, and that was it. We lost. So you you had a lot of success and experience in college. You Go, I'm assuming you went to the draft, you went to the combine and everything. Yeah, and I look back, you didn't go to the draft. Dope, didn't go. When to the combine? My thing, you know, the combine before you started, I knew that I was I thought about not playing my fifth year. I consider not playing because I graduated and I was having a problem with my the same foot that my toe was cut off. I was having a serious problem, I'm with my foot and it was it hurt just to walk. So to play and go through all that I was I was I was considering not playing. And then le Roy Horde, who left early, and he and I was splitting time all the time. He told me he's like bunch man. They got you ready as the top full back. I wouldn't leave if I was you. I mean I would play again if I were you. So that's why I ended up playing. So I went into the season knowing that I was a top rated full back. We went through. Then when I got to the combine, I've still top rated full back, but now I was ready as a running back to us, as ready as a top running back. So I wanted to show people that even though I only had five hundred yards, it was because I only had one hundred carries. Right, right, five yards carried for good. Yeah, yeah, I was a full I never lined up at running back. I'll always line up at full back and all my carries came second and three. They know what we they knew we want to run, you know, and I still average five yards carry. So when I got there I didn't have any play. I didn't play.

When anybody ain't talking anybody, I'm talking about the other other athletes. I was there for business period. I didn't I didn't go out and I went there to work out, to get interviewed and to see medical staff. That was it. And when I got there and did it, they were like whoof so, did you have an idea who was going to take you in the first round? At first I thought I was going to Washington at Nineteen, and then I thought I was going to Miami and when they both picked and and phoned in ring, nothing. And we're all sitting there and I'm like wow, if that year a lot of guys went. You know, that was when rocket went into Canada instead of being in the draft. So no one knew what was going to happen to the draft. Now was like, okay, who's going to be the number one pick and who and where goes first, and that would determine what's going to happen with the rest of whoever. So, when rocket left and didn't, Russell went first. Yes, defensive tackle. They nobody know what's gonna Happen. Well, you get where. You get picked in the first round by the giants. Yeah, and they didn't call me first, so I found out on TV. So they didn't even call you to let you know they pixt you. Wow, wow, I was the seventh rounder and I got called. Good thing you're still watching. I was why I was watching, and it was it was. It was we like, well, who picks? I was like well, who picks? Who picks first in the second round? It was Denver, and I knew that Denver. They already expressed it. They were going to take me if I was there for number one and so like well, so, hopefully didn't. Never and then they got up, got up to the podium and says with the final pick, twenty seven, the final pick, New York giants take running back jared bunch of like, Whoa, Hey, hell, back go to New York. Yes, yeah, so what was here? First training camp like with the giants, the first time you had to go up against the block man. It was it was, you know, practice in the pro you know, practicing the pros is man and went with Lawrence and pepper and those guys. They practice, but they weren't trying to set nobody on fire and practice, you know, they weren't trying to get hurt. They weren't trying, you know what I mean. They did that job. But so it was. It was cool. It was it wasn't as scary as I thought. I was going to be great, because they could have turned it on at any time. But they were like all right, looked at they look at this practice man. Just make sure you get your job. No, your position, know what you're supposed to do. But as far as going one hundred percent, they were going to have some they were going to have some rookie coming in and try to put his helmet under their chain. Right, right, and I was a big guy to you know. So it's like men, we trying to do all that. Hey. So, yeah, yeah, I've heard that before. I've heard that before. So how are the practices run? I mean back then we still had really good two days and they went on for four weeks and you know, but I'm sure that team, some of the veterans, took over and said, yeah, we're not going to do that at that much coach. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, Lawrence would look through the he look through the schedule. You say, I don't need to be there for that, I don't need to be all right, so I'll be a practice at at this time. Right. So he will show up at certain time. As far as the rest, we practiced, but it wasn't, it wasn't. It was you know, it was hard, but it wasn't ridiculous. Yeah, no, I mean I hear you. Like we had a lot of hot days, we had a lot of you know, the red skids. We were in Carlisle my first year and then we moved around a bunch. But you know, I think it's the same thing. People don't mind working. You didn't really want to bash your head in, though. That's that's it. Yeah, that's it. You got it. You know, you work hard, will learn the system, learning offense, learn what we need to do, practice against every blitz or whatever you want to do, every defensive front that you want to see. But guys just didn't want to. But coaches right. But some coaches don't care right, right to go put shells on or say, Oh, we're going to go a hundred percent. Well, you to do that. You know what we heard when Dan Reeves came. There's like, Oh, well,...

...practices will not what we had heard the practice here in tough practices, but then we heard that he had changed them. Was the practice was not going to be as hard. So first year ourselves drafted me, but before I got before we started camp, ourselves resigned and as we have ray Hanley. So it'll basically the same coaching staff beside besides him. So we had the same they were in the same, same program all that. When Dan Reeves came. They change a little bit. Now when reeves came they said, well, practice may not be as hard the camp. We never went pads to practice to padded practices. So we would have either shells in the morning, passing one in the evening or you know. So never had pads to padded to practice together. It would be it would be to practice the one day, one practice the next day to President. You know like that too. Yeah, well, you had a lot of playing time as a rookie, didn't you? Well, they they didn't know what to do with me because I was a year before they took Rodney Hampton and Rodney, you know, really good running back and they had they had a Maurice Carthon was it was a really good blocker. So when they put me in was in running passing situations. They put me at the h back and back then that was when h back was only pitch redskins. was only teams really using it, you know. So we started using a little bit. So when we put in an HBACK system, I was the h back. They take Mary's out. That was it. But as far as line up for at in the Backfield, full back, the hardy ever played that the first year. That was Bryant mental for us when I was there was he'd come in and throw down situations, play that h back. You know, was smart they let you love as a quarterback, you love having guys in it can pick up protections because third down to try to get you off the field or going to different bring different blitzes, and sorry, assuming that you were really good at all that stuff, and probably know nipkelback wanted to come up and have you hit him under the Chin when you're in the backfield. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Yeah. So who was your quarterback then? was that so phil to Phil and, yeah, I always said feel and then up until the last year was day. Okay, yeah, Yep, yeah, from good and actually when I went to the ray years, it was hosteller who was who was there. So we the fost my first year. We played together hostel or played with the giants when over the giants my first year, and then when Hass went to to the raiders after I left the giants and went to the raiders. Yeah, half is good dude. I played with him one year at the Redskins. He came up and came and was a backup, but he was a big time prankster. Off a lot to play about, practical jokes on everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you end your first year, you get some playing time you get your feet wet. You go into your second year and you have a bad injury. You know, part of our show is about how you can overcome all these odds that were thrown at us. People lose their jobs, they have other things, problems come up and it just hard work and keep battling no matter what happens to you, and I think you're the epitome of that. So you can tell us a little bit about what happened that second year? Yeah, well, the second years when I was off, I had to good year, the okay second year with Ndon your third year. It was a third year and coming off that second year I was the giants opensive played a year average five yards of carry and I was third in the League or typer second in the league. So I came into training Camp Thinking, Oh boy, you know, I'm like but Dan Reeves came and Rodney Hampton held out. So for Camp I was running at hat tailback and we were running a lot on one back. So it was me and in the first scrimmage, first scrimmage I tear money. You were you run into somebody tackle you. It was scream. Was a spirit. You know, usually scrimmages against number one team. That's usually not tackle, right, but Dan Reeves, it was tackle and the guy hit me from the side. Defensive tackle who was trying to make the team. You know, he didn't make seem but he tried to make team. Hit Me from behind in the side and I tore my my MCL and I tore my retinaculum, but tell atonant. So that that created the problem. But it wasn't so much that. It was pouring completely. So I didn't have so I like you, Oh, you don't need surgery. So when I was out for I was out for three, four weeks,...

...started coming back, started playing a little bit and the first game or whatever, I fumbled. I was I fumbled the ball two times in one game and that was it. They from that point they wrote me out of like they didn't write any place for me. And what had happened? What had happened was I was I didn't know it, but I had a tessis and it went just whooping cough and it was creating, you know, every time I got tired of my I got weak and I was like, I don't know what's wrong, some room. So they started send me home and for a month, for four months, I couldn't do anything. I would, they would check, they would testing this, testing that. They had said that I had a pneumonia, everything, and it just became a something. They couldn't find out until my mom comes to a game. MOM comes to a game and one of the texts happened and she goes got hooping call and no, mom's always know, they always know. For a month they didn't know what happened. And then I go down and I go to them. I say look, my mom says thinks I have hooping call. They test me full. Oh that's that's pretty good. Mom's always know the medical staff and this step. But the MOM. Mom Knew Man, mom knew Y, she knows, she knows, she knows you better than anybody. So so you got the raiders. How many years where you're with the raiders? Just the one. They the problem was that the injury that I got, I came back because I didn't have surgery it. It healed, but it didn't heal strong enough and all the damage was done by playing that rest of day year with that. So he wrote it all the cartilage off an underneath the knee cap and in between the knee. So I was good for one day practice, one day swallow. So I went to the even with that situation, the raiders still wanted me sign with them and I was taking so many pain killers, information agetting shots and all that, and I was only twenty six and I said, how long am I going to be able to do this? So I said, you know what, I'm going cold Turk. I'm not taking any more, any more drudge pain killers, and I couldn't, I couldn't perform, I couldn't do nothing. I mean I could do it as much as I could, but my mind would say run over there. By the time I started running, the guy was passing. So they's like you, you know, have to let you go. But did you get where? You into other like business ventures while you were still in the NFL? Not It. Well, kind of, because I was. It was the La Raiders and I was here in Beverly Hills in Los Angeles and that's where all entertainment was goes on and the girl who I was dating at the time, she was entertainment and I started getting requested, you know, just awful, just you know, this personal as person. They want to see you and based on them wanting to see me and saying look, we think that you got a good look to do this and do that. So when I stopped seeing that girl and move back to New York, I never moved away from New York, but I moved back into my house in New York, I went to acting school, started doing teching any thing, start booking a lot of commercials, start doing a lot of moves and then I got the big movie, the Don King Story, where I played George Forman and it won a lot of awards and that's when I became a actor who used to play football. Right. So what was it training like to be George Foreman? If the boxing, you know, I mean it was good train. I got into really good shape because it was, you know, just they had me with a boxing trainer and, you know, I was doing my my stuff that I always been doing my entire life of training, and then this just was one of those things where they started giving me stuff to cut, cut the weight, and it was just, you know, as I was about like three four poison body fat, it was yeah, it was. It was just train, eating, eating right, and then go, you know, acting back in school. Now you're a black bell. Is that correct? And Jiu Jitsu absolutely because of so what happened was after they saw that movie they thought I was real boxing and I started getting contacted for people was in, you want do you want to fight and whatever, and as a part of my Rehab I started training tight sheet, but I was doing it for Rehab, not for combat. So when they started contacting me to do the boxing, I started doing it. I started doing it and then I got a contacted by King of the cage and...

...they say, listen, we know you're in martial arts, Tai Chi, but it was not for martial arts. WHO's for? It's for help. They were like, look, we'll pay you x amount of dollars to pay to fight this main event of pay per view, and I was like like, Oh, okay, and it was against maybe you play with them. It was against Michael Westboro. Oh Yeah, Michael, I've just teld damn about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they're like, well, he knows, he knows Jiu Jitsu, but we'll put you with somebody for a little while. So they put me. I met with this guy like four or five times and I trained myself and I watched UC videos and I go on there and he got me in a choke, so I lost. So I said, okay, look, I'm gonna find out what this Jiu Jitsu is about. So I just went and started right down the street Beverly Hills, just your club, which I didn't know at the time, was one of the biggest in the May gems in the world at that time. They had boss routing, they had they had all in UFC champions who trained it. So I went in and I start talking to him and we started. I start training there and then I was like what my doing? I'm not going to fight. So I said, look, I just just put on Agee and just trade in Jiu Jitsu. So I started training Jiu Jitsu and then I started competing and I'll started winning, and then I was like competing a lot and I was winning a lot and I kept going up and up and up and up and up, and I got my black belt and still was competing and all the time my body was wrecked, but the JIU Jitsu was helping it because I was moving without the blunt force and all that, but I was like, you know, moving it and kept it moving and kept it moving and kept it moving so my knees, even though they're Jack but because I'm always moving them, they don't you still it? Yeah, cause reflectibility and everything. When I stopped moving, take a stiff. How old were you at that point? I started at thirty seven. So as why tell people you know I still teach. I still teach Jiu Jitsu. I said, look with me and my age and and the level of problems with arthritis and all other things, I still trust that if you do Jiu Jitsu you'll be able to continue to move, get better and you know it's good for health. So have you ever run into Johnny Martin? I we ran into each other. We run into each other because he's out here, but we never like trained or day. I know I know Im. He knows me. Yeah, he when we play together at the lions and Johnny was a big MMA guy back in ninety nine. He loved that. Used to bring videotapes over to my house and my wife and I would sit there and make him dinner and he we'd watch voice, voice gracy. I think, watch all these guys and Johnny's like I'm gonna be in the ring Sunday. And then Johnny got the ring one day didn't well for crazy on TV. Here I was at the fight. How are you realize? Yes, yes, he he, he went out too fast me. You know, you didn't you want to, but it's all right. It wasn't the fastest. Know, I got everybody's pretty fast. But anyway. So then you do it all this your rehab and you're getting into the Hollywood industry. You Start Your own production company. What you got? You into your own production company. I was doing a lot of commercials and the commercials were all predominantly the same thing. Was always some type of sport. And then they were always asking me, you know, was this real? With it really be like this? You know? So and there was a company, one or two companies that were out there that was doing where you a consulting type of thing or you would contact them to get, you want, these type of players. One. So I was like man, I can do that. So everything that I was doing, I started the production company that would would say, look, we offer this, we're offering opportunities for for you know, we've specialized in sports stuff, things that deal with sports, and we want to come up with our own content. Now he can do anything online. That instead of me just being able to get gigs. That's athlete driven. I wanted to come up with on stuff that I can do, that I can create, that can make. It's now. It's the best time that you can do those things. Right. Yeah, because a friend...

...of mine who I play with that the Redskins is obviously doing, started that way, Terry crews, of course, I know K. yes, Terry is doing a fantastic job, man, you know, and he's the same thing. He's an actor now who was a football player and just great personality. They were in a movie together. I think we're in a movie with Terry. We did, yes, we did it. We did a thing called I forgot what's called. But yeah, we have work together, but we're friends and we actually he was drafted in ninety one also, and he but he went to western Michigan. He went to Western Michigan. So we've we've we've talked many times and he is done a phenomenal job, man, he he when he told me when he came out here he wasn't thinking about acting, he was trying to be a writer, right, and are he's a great artist? Right? Yes, he was exactly. That's what he that was his passion. Now it takes. Now he just takes a shirt off and bounce some textground. Yeah, he's a great he's a great guy. So so your God all sins, you have your own production company. You're in you're in commercials, you're you're getting roles in movies. So what's your favorite commercial you've ever done? No question, is a snickers commercial where I play a box it's about to go out and fight Mike Tyson, but I have these huge ears. It was right after heat it. He had the holy field. We're going to have to look that one up there. We're gonna do that on Youtube. Youtube. This look a boxing with big ears. It is it's Hilarious, but US far favorite one. So then you've been in I don't know, I think I saw over fifteen movies. Yeah, that probably yeah, yeah, a lot of movies and TV. The last movie was Jango and chained. And one thing you got to know, you guys probably already know, but movies you can be shooting for a long time, but a lot of stuff can get cut off. And I've been doing this for since since ninety six, ninety seven, and I got a little bit just just tired of all the time being put in and not getting to the level that want to. So That's why I started coaching football. It's just because I just got tired of it. I still do the commercials and I still my production company. If things come up, we still do that. I still I wanted to do something on football and you know I'm at beverly was high school. I wanted to do something following my situation at Beverly Hills, you know, but it's just it's just time consuming and a lot of things get in the way. But Hey, all you gotta do is like a hard knocks and go in three or four games this year you'll be a legend. You would think. You would hope help. I dope anyway. Now that is great. So you're coaching at Beverly Hills High School now. So it's amazing. Part of our shows really teaching people that we're all going to have these transitions in life and we all go through these different stories of our life, but it doesn't mean it's over. You just start a new part of it, and you've done such an exceptional job of reinventing yourself year after year. Well, I'm trying. I always tell people I'm trying, and that's why I say with with other people, it's not over until you you say it's over. When you quit, when you stop, that's when it's over. But as long as you try to put put something together, you always into game. That's I mean more you can do right. That's hey, that's what my dad said, what you told. Do you know when I when I first started playing quarterback at the Redskins, Cam camera came up to me said you're going to learn how to hold, and I'm like, why would I ever learn how to hold? He said, because teams always need a hold her right the sometimes a punter can't do it or he gets hurt, they need somebody to do it. I held for every year I played the NFL for all kind of kickers. It probably helped me get on more teams that I wanted to get on, but it was a big part and it's the old saying the more you can do, the more you can do it. But I think that your story is great. One person waiting to talk about was your wife. You know, can tell us a little bit about your wife, your family? I know you guys have a business together. Yeah, my wife, so that's you know, I met my wife at my first head shot shoot. So she did my makeup for the first hitch as I did for entertainment, and the first time that we met, first time we were sorry each other whatever she's putting makeup on, and we talked, I mean like for like, I don't know, twenty thirty minutes and I was about it. And I went after my head shots I had an acting class and when I went to acting class,...

...guys was asking me like how to head shouts gool, I said, are you know? I think I went all right, but you know what, I may have met the future missus bunch today. That was it. That was it. I mean and we talked like, I mean we didn't have any deep conversations, nothing, we just talked, talked, a little bit, shared and that was that was it. But I said, you know, I said, I don't know a lot about it, but what I do know about her, I think I might have met the future Missus bunce today. That was it. Do you guys have children? We don't have any children. Don't have any children, but we will. We've been married twenty years. Of Be Twenty One and August, August twenty seven, will be twenty one years. Well, you got about twenty some children now at that football team. They're looking for from direction. Yeah, yeah, I mean more players to twenty two is not going to cut it. I keep trying to say we this year. What I did is I went out. A lot of kids were talking about my mom won't let me play, my dad won't let me play because they're afraid of concussions. So I went out and looked at the NFL has a study on helmets and I took the number one rated helmet and I said, okay, we're going to go buy get these helmets and we're going to use it as a campaign as look NFL number one rated helmets to help prevent concussions the vices. It's a soft outer cell so when you hit it right, it's it moves and in the inner side is hard. So we got went out and got those and it's starting to work. I mean the first day we had people come in to try to helmets one, we had thirty, over thirty kids. So show up now we had summer conditioning. Of the thirty kids that showed up to get the helmets, fourteen show up for summer condition that's that's the hardest part is getting those kids to realize it's about every day. Just like when you were kids. You realize that I got to I got to continue to work out. And what was the saying? Your coach told you. Look, you got to make it so important that you've got to think that the devil going to get you if you don't do it. You know something. You have to make it so important that you have to do it every day. That's importance going to you gotta do. You got to make you give it something so much weight that you have to do it. If you miss, something bad will happen. Then you won't. You will miss and I believe if there's anybody that can grind that into those kids head and that school's head, it's going to be you, right, and that's really what you got to do, if you just got to powd it in their head to make it so important. And you know what really happens is once you get a taste of winning a little bit, everything changes and then people just come on board and it'll be easier and easier for you. Yeah, I well, I'm hoping for it, and one of the things that we that reason why I get those helmets. It worked for the beginning. Now I just need to get those kids to come in and stay. Some kids show up one day, not the next day. Show up the next day, show up a week later. And for me, you know how you know. For me, it would like you miss, you out, you miss all right, one time you get the chance. You got some extra work to do. Same time you miss turning your uniform, and you know, I still believe that all right too, but it's hard when you have a little, not many, you know, and the kids, some, some these kids take advantage of that. They know, they know you need me. You'RE gonna have to resort to UPDOWNS, bear crawls. What else did we used to do? Well, I was inspired by his push up story. I got the I'm going to the beach next week. It might be a little too late for all that, but I'm gonna tonight. I'm going to do how many push what I'man what's what's your recommendation? How many push ups? They just started and see if you can move tomorrow. Why? I was thinking more like eat and then see if I can move and then we'll build from there. But Hey, look, just start and stay with it. That's it. Let's get the kids. I've told the kids the same thing and I've said look, and I every time I asked me, who did that push up today? Who did they push ups today? I'm always asking and see what has happened. Is some of the kids that have done it. And like coach, I started three weeks ago. My Bitch press already gone up. I said, okay, so you see what I'm saying. And then the other person said no, I didn't do it, and his bitch press stays the same. I said, so here we have truth when I'm...

...saying it's not just talk. Okay, if you want to get some of you want to get some result, you got to put work in. Here's one guy put work in. One Guy who did now, well, I think push ups and sit ups for primarily. Would Herschel Walker did. I mean, I don't think he did a lot of lifting. It was it was those two things, right, push push ups, sit ups and pull ups. And ys he's doing like a thousand push ups and day or something like. Yeah, but crazy. That's what works. So, jared, we do one little last segment. We really appreciate you coming on and telling US your story and we get to share with everybody and and hopefully that when we put it out there in social media everything, you can help us and retweet it. But our last segment, we call it the no huddle. Right, we're going to blasp with questions that you you can answer them quick Dave writes all these and he's got a fire some questions that yet you can you. We preferm if you give us quick answers. But here we go. There's our no huddle. We're going to score in the last two minutes of the game here. Okay, jared, if you could go back in time and talk to your younger self for ten seconds, what would you say? Slow down, so down, take your time, listen more than talk. I like that. Good Advice. Gim Me pet peeves. I used to. I can't think of them. I'm sure if you ask my wife, I do. I do. I can't think of any right now. What if you could change one rule in sports today, what would it be? High School or profession in high stool? In High School Sports, I would allow kids to attend schools that are not in their neighborhood and allow kids to participate in sports, but I would also make it mandatory that they had to have a certain GPA or not. There's no great either you have it GPA or you don't. You know, don't, you're not allowed to play. All right, jared, so you played a lot of people in movies. Who would play you in a movie? Who? I know you got a favorite? No, I don't, but since he's playing everybody else, who's the guy who played Black Panther played? He played James Brown. He plays everybody, James. Who is it? I can't remember his name, but to think about it and he was on that Centel to. He's good. Yeah, he was good. Hell, I thought you might take Terry crews, but you know, Terry is Dadwick Boseman. That's who it is. Chadwick Boseman, Chadwick boosman. He plays everybody. All right. What about your favorite La Area Restaurant? You and your wife had to pick one. Which one it is a hey. Where are you going tonight? Nobo, Nob that place is good. What about if you're an Ashtra Bula? Probably not. No, bid baby, place to eat? Yeah, MOM's house. Yeah, there's not too many places. His mom at home. MOMS look good. All right. So you played in a lot of different areas. College High School, the pros. Out of all those, what was the Best Game Day atmosphere you've ever been part of, besides when you got knocked out by that guy from Notre Dame? Oh Oh man, Um, tell you something. You know, the atmosphere when you win a playoff game is pretty good. It's pretty good and the only thing compares compares that to is winning a atmosphere of when you win a bowl game. You know, but I would think the bowl game victory was pretty I think it's pretty good. That whole week leading up to the Rose Ball has to be a great experience. The look when we we were asked that's what I was thinking about. We won a rose ball. It was like, Oh my God, I'm nothing. I've, you know, seen in college before. I can only imagine that's what it was. I mean it's to a degree in prose for for Super Bowl whatever, but I think playoff atmosphere is really good.

Awesome. All right. Last one. If you could be an athlete any time in history for one day, it would that be? You say, well, anytime it would be. Who? WHO WOULD YOU BE? Oh, Oh, you know, you know, Carlos hit a nice stretch. You know, really Bitcht U. Yeah, yeah, I think you know, that was a pretty good one and I would, you know, really imagine acting first Olympics. But curloss in remaining, my man just right now from from Jamaica. Y has a really good run to he did. Yeah, I always wondered what I would be like to be able to run that fast. Like I was not a runner, I was a pocket passer, but that would just be amazing. I mean he's turned around and looking at the other runners sideways while he's still winning the race. Laughing, laughing. Oh, if you're Carl Lewis, just don't sing the national anthem, the spirits, as I've seen that. Wow, oh, make up for that one. Yeah. Hey, well, is there anything you want to promote? Jared Oh man, you know, nothing real. You know, the One thing of coaching at Beverly Hills High School is really exciting for me, but I do you know there's a movie now, movie TV show out right now that's based on Beverly Hills High School that actually comes from a player who played at Bebos High School and the show is called all American and the biggest that. It's nuts. But what you see and what people really would think Beverly Hills High School is. It's not a truly what it is like when you look on TV is the plush and everything else. Beverly Hills High School, the Public School, is a public school. It's not, you know, with all these rich kids. It's not Beverly Hills Man on old type of school. It's a big school. Tonight right now we're redoing the whole thing because it's it needs and needs to be redone, just like a lot of public schools that are in cities and major areas that they don't get the funding they need. That they yeah, yeah, and every time I say, you know, when I tell people my Beverly Hills, they think of this put. No, this is the public school. Beverly is high school. It is nice, but it is not plush and it needs to be redone. You know, it's because it's been there for a long time. Our uniforms last year and we had your holes in the uniforms. We need. We need new uniforms with new, new equipment. I thought some equipment was as old as when I was playing. That's not right. Yeah, no, but that's high school programmers. Yeah, we us that. Some even some big time alumni. You should. They should be some contribution from the alumni. Let it have its Nicolas Cage. The problem is not that they would do it, but the problem is the way the public system is set up up that people, you know, do you want to go to someone and get some some clipment or whatever, it's a certain way that you have to do it. They can't just give it to the school because the school will use it on this, this, this, you know, instead of that's I had the same thing in my school and every donor the school said, look, the money just doesn't go to you, it'll go to the whole school. And so what I ended up doing I put a wish list together of what I needed exactly and I sent it out to all the donors and next thing you know, I got a box of helmets, I got a box of new pads and the school said, well, you're the only one that can use them, so I guess we can't do anything about it. So you know exactly exactly what I'm talking about. You got to have a wish list. You got to say hey, look, we love your help, I need new helmets. You can't just ask for money because they put it into everything right? That's right. The nicknames interesting, though. What is a norman? It's the fighting nights of normality. So they're the NORMANS. I got you. Okay, right, wow. Well, Hey, we appreciate you coming on. It was a great show. We'll let you know and we put it out and you know, hopefully help us retweet it and we'll pub beverly hills. We'll try get you some players from Pittsburgh. Give me some players, may give me some we'll get you something. Thanks. Thanks. Great Story, jared I. We love having you on. Thank you, thank you.

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