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Huddle Up with Gus: Richmond Webb

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This week all time NFL and Dolphin great Richmond Webb.

Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Huddle up with Guss. I'm your host, fifteen year NFL quarterback gusts Farad. I want to thank you for joining us today. You can check us out at huddle up with gustscom. You can go to wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. We will be on there were on every network, so we appreciate you. We want to thank all of our sponsors today, the little blue pill credit guard, new T genics, sixteen thirty one digital news, always a big plus. Go to sixteen thirty one digital news. Check out their sports news, information entertainment. They do a great job with that. And definitely check out to our PODCAST, is held at Sounder FM. Go to sound or DOT FM and check out our podcast, along with many, many others, and we appreciate you listening and please go to our youtube channel so you can watch the video, not just listen to the show, but now you can watch our shows on our great youtube channel huddle up with gusts. So I appreciate you listening and get ready for the show. It's a great one. Welcome to what surely will be a doozy of a match up. Brian here sports fans, whether your game is on the Gridiron, at the diamond or on the links, we can only say get up off your seats and get ready for some real action. Welcome to this week's huddle up with Gus. Fifteen year NFL quarterback, Gust Bar Rock Passion for sports has taken him on the field and behind the benches. Playing for seven NFL Franchisees. With one hundred fourteen TD's under his belt, Gust knows who the players are and how the Games are one. Every day I got to hang out with an Hennall quarterback up Oka sports fans from the decked out and plush sixteen pretty one digital studios. It's kickoff time, so snap your Cho straps on and can't rem to huddle up with us. Hey everyone, welcome another episode of Hoddle up with Gusts. I'm your host, Gusts Froud, fifteen year NFL quarterback, and I want to welcome you to the hold up with gusts podcast. Hey, you can check me out at huddle up with Gustscom or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. I'm joined today by one of my old friends, one of my old lineman. We both spent a I don't know how long this you were at the Bengals, but I know I was there one year. It was in and out and probably a lot of guys were jealous of that. But Anyway, joining me today. He was drafted number one, one thousand nine hundred and ninety. Protected Damn Marino's backside for a long time. Incredible, incredible player, s all decade team and from Dallas. went to University of Texas. Am can't say more enough what a great guy is. Joining me today is Richmond Webb. How you doing, rich good, guess. How're you doing, brother? Good, kitch here with man. It's nice catch up with you too. You know, there's so many things. When I own I'm we kind of started chatting about doing the show and you coming on, just going back through my memory banks of that year at the Bangles and all the good and the bad that happened and what a crazy year it was, and you can attest to it as well as anybody out there, no question. You know. I think I can remember when I first came in and you know, be you Lorenz O'Neal. They brought in several guys from different NFL teams that and I think what they were trying to focus on teams that have are guys that had went to the playoffs or had came from no organizations that had win to try to filter in to try to change change the culture around there, because when I got there and just saw some of the guys, they definitely had talent. It was just trying to change the mental of, you know, having so many losing seasons back to back to back to back to back, to try to change the culture and and that was one thing that, you know, we noticed and I could, I could even remember guys that were playing in Cincina. It would ask me questions like why did you come here? It was like that. But man, some really great friends, you know. I got to make meet you personally and Lorenz O'Neal, and it was always good to get together and talk and I'll form friendships from up there. So it wasn't all good, but it was it was some really good things that came out of it, so I'm happy I did make that, that decision to come to see. Yeah, I know you're right. There are you do for some good friendships and people that you've met and played with along the way and you know, there wasn't much we could do by a lot of stuff that the bangles were doing. I've told so many weight room stories from that year at the Bangles and said, you know, I've trained for twenty five years of trying to lift weights and be a football player and do things and and I said I never saw anything like when I went to the bangles and I remember lifting with Lorenzo Lorenz O'Neil full back, and we were lifting there and he goes, all right, you just wait, wait to the whistle and then he blew to whistled and...

...he's like, everybody, get on the wrest of man. So what are we doing? He goes, Oh, yeah, this is when it starts. And you know Loneil is just he was always joking around. I said, oh gosh, butter, and then then Roddy would come out and all right, we're gonna do twenty five push out. I mean it was different. I mean you know, when I was at Miami we had basically, if you wanted, twenty four hour access to the weight room, when at times you will go pull on the door and it was locked. I mean it was it was some different things up there. Nice facilities is never bit like you said it was. It was some things that made you scratch your head and just said, man, you know what's going on, or you just had to kind of figure out what it was and just roll with it. But it was definitely some different things that kind of like just cauch you off guard. I agree with you on that. Yeah, I mean I just have so many things that make me laugh. But you know, you were saying about the talent. I mean, look at the talent we had on that team. I mean from us, you know, Peter War Tj Houshman Zada, we had coreyhosinco Corey Delan, Lorenz O'Neil. You trying to remember our tight ends? I mean we had a really solid team and you know what, it's a and I would I still try to figure out why, Hey, the connections weren't made, you know what I mean? Like why did we struggle on offense? Why did we struggle with all these things? And then you see like towards the end of the season, I can't remember, he was a d lineman. Remember he got up and left UN said, I'm done, right in the middle of a team meeting. What coach Lebow was talking and he just let I said, Oh, okay, like that blew my mind right there. It blew my mind and I would you know my confidant, which was John Jackson. He had been there before, you know I he was least a year or two there before I got there. And you know he played at Pittsburgh, which where area. You know, that was the organization off for winning this and that. And he had told me, he said when I got to he said, men, you going to see some stuff here. Everything before and every time I'll see something, I would turn around look at him. We be that now. Don't say it. Already told you you see some stuff here that you hadn't seen before. And I lived in Mason, which was about twenty miles north of like downtown Cincinnati, and I think it was me and Lowneo, because he just stay far from me. But it was a cage and restaurants. COPELE's actually had one here in Texas, but it will see food agency food and yeah, a lot of times on Mondays after we watch film, some of the guys would be up there. So I think it was me, him, might golf, couple other lineman and who just having a conversation and I remember they said the difference for you guys is is, you know, like in any football game, there momentum swings. It's in that and he said with us, if something bad happens, we never turn it around. He said we're y'all come from place where you know you might throw interception or Fallblo or whatever, and then you end a little deal and then baby, somebody on our defense makes a play and swings the momentum back, he said, but it never happens. And they had got in that mindset and they couldn't shake it because right gus it would be times we would come out on offense and just be lightened up and then all of a sudden something would happen and it was like they, instead of like fight through it, it was like they just onrmally found a way. It's okay, this was supposed to happen. We screwed up, so we're not going to win a game. So it was just their mindset and I think that was a hardest thing, and I really listened to I think it was my golf and not listen to him say, you know, I never looked at it from the aspect that you know, I came from somewhere else. I just knew, which was fortunate, because I think it's easy to get trapped in at my I said, if that's just happens year after year after years. Yeah, and I felt sorry for him that. You know, we did we could to try to change the culture and I think they did. They looked up to us and I think we did some positive things. We just didn't have enough to kind of just swing everything back the right way. Yeah, get into what you said about the mindset, you know, because I always admired John Kidnap for that year because I struggled, like I had some really tough times when things weren't going well and guy, you know, it's like just nobody trusted each other and it was just like we weren't playing as eleven right, we're out there by ourselves. That's what it felt like. I kind of was trying to deal with all that because I've never been in that situation before and John was really good about everything and John kept his poise and do it. He did it. He did a great job with everything and it's probably like...

...the mindset, like he was there for so long, he kind of kind of knew that, you know what I mean, like he had that mindset. Gus. It wears on you, man, when you come from somewhere. And the biggest thing was just discipline. But it was like like I say to wait, won't get it a certain way. I can remember I was in the training room. Didn't take the whatever for practices met and I saw guys come in and say hey, put me down, I'm not practicing the day. And I look and I was like, you know, I came up on the shoe. Look and it's no way in hell you can just walk in and say, Oh, put me down, I'm not practicing the day. I mean they would at least say, well, I were going to take you up. Let's just see how you feel. Get out there and just work it. But you could just make that decision. And I remember looking at Judge Jackson. He said, I told you, I don't want to hear it. Was So many instances like that, you know, like the D line and walking out of the meet. Now it's like, man, you don't do that. It was yeah, yeah, it was just like well, you know, I guess what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. So you know, we went through that. You know, I went on to play before after that. So you learn a lot and you know, for me the hard part was I can't brought my family here. I thought I could, you know, make sense that a little bit of a home and the landing place for us, and you know I'm gone in a year again. So that was that was difficult for me. So when you left Miami, that had to be tough for you. It was tough because that's all I knew and you know I get into it that play lettl years. They're getting toward the end of my career and you know, I think everybody's wish if you start with a organization and it's a decent organization, you want to finish your career there. But I had started to have some injuries laid my career and when you've been in it for a while, you know it's a business deal and and that's the way I kind of looked at it and we could come to terms and and I respected because I looked at it from their point of view and saying, okay, this guy is getting up in age and it's in that but I still wanted to play. So I had an opportunity and you know, entered the market and had a couple teams but eventually ended up signing with Cincinnati kind of late, maybe maybe right after the draft or something like that, and I was was happy that they gave me an opportunity to continue to do something that I love to do, which was play football. And, you know, play there those two years and end up getting hurt my second year, but after that, you know, the thing was I didn't burn any bridges in Miami, which is good. You know, I have everything the right way and picked up the following say hey, I'm I'm going to retire and I want to retire off and is that possible? And they welcome me back with open arms and I was happy about that. So I think if I was younger, I think it would have probably been a probably with the process the right way because of them. That's when you going through contract negotiations, you take some things personal, which is good. I think players have an agent to represent them because I'm sure they say some things hitting the meetings because they trying to get the best deal for the club. You trying to get the best deal for you in your family, right and I think that's why I think it's good you got an ageing because they said some of that stuff. I don't know if if the way I think they that, I would hold it against you know, I'm saying this like I wouldn't just say not as part of negotiation. I'm like Nah, I remember what you said about Media Sin Addage. So that's the good thing. I think that there is an Asian a kind of buffers is deal, that he kind of absorbs all the negative stuff and and just sticks to the facts and works the deal. But yeah, no, I agree with that. They you know, it's hard because if you had to go in a room like that in here, okay, like last year, you know, you through nine picks. You know that was like whatever percentage, and you know, you they start talking about write. Their job is to lower the price, right, so they're going to talk about all the bad stuff I did and then you're like yeah, well, I did this and this and this and this's you know, and that would be tough for you to as a player. Now some guys probably could do it, you know what I mean, like Tom Brady probably can go in and say yeah, I'll just take this and they're like okay, probably sounds good. You know, Marin Know Ye hell away all those guys. But you know, for me that was that was never the case. Probably for you too, you probably had a lot of it's just I just wondered sometimes because, you know, I'm just glad. I wouldn't put in that position. I'll say that. So I would hope it will be. I think will be mostly positive. But I think they, like you say, when they're trying to lower the price and get the best deal that I'm sure they throw some stuff out there that you know that would push you off for, like you say, you play a game will, like you said, he with that picks. Well, did you receive a run the wrong route? Was the ball tipped? Did that? I get pressure from the back side. It...

...is so many factors go into that to say yeah, this actually happened, but why did it actually happen? You know I'm saying is and they don't focus on that. They just focus on getting the price down the loaded to make the best deal for the club. So I write get it. Yeah, yeah, we both probably like to play today, right, the prices that are going on, I mean why would it damn? What would a damn Mario's price be today? And he would be right there with with brady and Rogers. You know, he'd be right there. The Shawn Watson, you know, and it the thing about that was he's got a fully guaranteed contract and that's the first one and he longly go start with the quarterbacks, which I was happy to see that, but eventually that's a wall that's been broken through. So I'm going to I'm going I'm sure other quarterbacks are going to be saying, well, Hey, I want to fully guaranteed contract to you know I'm saying so, yeah, yeah, well, I think it's it's a wall that has a a little crack in it, right, because they're going to be a lot of owners. It's you know, they never wanted to go down that road with us. They never wanted it. We're the only professional sports team that doesn't have guaranteed contracts. Yep, and we're probably the ones that should have the guaranteed contracts, right. That's much money, is hard as our league makes off of us. We should be the ones that have guaranteed contracts. And they could do it. They just don't want to do it, but they could do it. How they could have done it. Every collective barting agreement we've been through. Yeah, could. They could have done it right. And you know, just like you, you know you do a deal, you get guaranteed. Then if they they know that, hey, webb has three years left, right, probably right, your ten years in the League, we got three years left. He's got a guaranteed deal. He's just going to stay here. Let's finish it out right. So it would have changed how free agency and everything would have gone. But you know, it is what it is and we got to live with it. Yes, hey everyone, thanks for listening to uddle up with guss. You can check me out of huddle up with guestscom wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Joining me is a good friend of mine that that we played together. We went through a lot together in Cincinnati. But, Webby, I want to go back to when you grew up. You grew up in Dallas. What is the first memory? What is that moment for you? We fell in love with sports when you were young, because in Dallas there's a rich history of sports, and so for you, what was that like? It was it you're somebody going out in the yard and playing with the your buddies. Everybody has a different story. No, it was man for me, it was, you know, like you said, growing up and Dallas and was a cowboys and I can remember a lot of times we try to get home from church because, you know, only gang coloring only like twelve o'clock. Yeah, cowboys, and I'm talking to old school, to Roger Style Bag, Tony Dorset, Preston Piers and of the Joe Du Pree, Randy White, to Tall Jones Harvey. More than those were the guys. Tom Landry was a coach and I was just talking tob the other day. I see it. You know, things have changed so much now, but I can remember watching the Games when I was a kid that the head coach would have on a suit and tie on the sideline, you know, the head coach would be coaching. Now say the game has evolved and changed so much now that they got a pair of sneaker slacks and a Golf Shirt on coaching. Bit. No, no, my favorite is Bella checked with a Hoodie and kind of sleeves. Hey, he he marches to his own drum, you know right, and they got let him get away with but you right, he did to cut off Patrio sweatshirts and just say this how I'm to do it and they don't bother them bit. Yeah, just go out, going up there, huge cowboy friend growing up and you know, even as a kid, you know, going out in the yard and you know, I'm Tony Dorr said or whatever. You know, this is what we did. Played even in elementary. Just grew up playing football and I started playing organized football in middle school because I was one of the bigger kids and only thing about little league football is you got a weight limit. So yeah, if I played, I probably had to play with guys. It was probably a couple years because I just will step much bigger than N my and so my mom said. Now, so I actually start playing organized and seventh grade and then on through high school and then, like you said, went to Texas. Am played there and I think it was my last year I thought I might have a shot to, you know, possibly play in the NFL. But that went pretty well and it had a good workout at the combine and what your Senor Ball and got coached by Buddy Ryan and that was that was fun. Yeah, end up, you know, get drafted by Miami, which that was the thing. I just said.

Lord, please let me go somewhere warm, because you know, you will watch some of those games and will be cold. Got Cold and Dallas big. You know some of those plays. I was like, man, so you were not pulling to go to Green Bay. You know, don't you know? I knew about that frozen touns of I don't remember that. You know, you'd obvious see highlights and they talked about when the cowboys played against the Green Bay packers and I think they're saying people hands were getting frost been. I was like, oh no, no, that's just so you. You were you you didn't want to play their permanently. But your division you played in with the jets, the Patriots in the bills, those are all pretty much cold game. You know what they were and you know you would think buffalo probably be the coldest game, but I think the coldest game the jet sometime in the metal lands would get really cold wing and we get really cold if you went late in the year, but for some reason it would always sometimes we go to New York and it would be like kind of missing rain and cold rain, and then it seemed like they would open up one end of the giant stadium and it was like a draft will pull through. That iuse like man, this is just miserable. Bit The thing I tell people about cold games for me is if the game is closed, you don't focus on the weather, but if you're winning by a lot, are you losing my lout, you'll start looking at the clock and be like man, we need to need every game we get. I'm ready to dip out of here, man, I'll tell you that. Yeah, it's just you focus on the game board and that so that. Yeah, you know, it's funny. You Say New York. That was the coldest game I ever played into was we as when I was with Washington. We went to New York and Trent Green and I run the sideline and that trench writing the notes down. You know, you're rate two plays down back in the day on the Trut on the clipboard and his nose was running and it would just dripping instantly freeze on the chalkboard. And I was holding for a kicker at the time who was Eddie Murray, and it's the same thing. Right, you're driving into the end zone. It open those doors and that draft is coming in and it was just just bitter, man, it was. It was just bitter cold. Yeah, okay, always, always, man, you made me think. I think the coldest game I played in I can't remember. I feels out it was early in my career. But we went to Chicago and this was with coach shoe to and we went up there and coach shooting nobody with his his regiment never changed. So we went to soldier feel they had the football field covered with a tarn because I guess they're trying to keep the ground from like freezing. Yeah, he had a roll back about twenty yards and we did a walk through out there and his cold weather and so got through that. Saraity went through the meet to. So we get to the game Sunday and it was some old eventuan offensive lineman and they said line wing to wearing no sleeves today and I looked, I know I was like I'm trying to sack my mind up this man and somebody said, man, you'll be all right, just put some basseline on your arms this then you'll be okay. This's in that. And we went out for pre game and I got down to the edge of the tunnel where you came out and that wind hit me and and it went felt like it was a towel and just wiped all that Vasilte off. My arm is cold here. Yeah, maybe through pre game and I said, man, I got to do something. So fortunately I wouldn't got some elbow sleeves which counter yeah, and then helped me out that. Man, when I tell you that game was cold me, the good thing was the game was closed, so I didn't focus on this much journey game, bit man, going out for pre game and all that. I was like, man, it's cold. I hear I did. If I didn't get those elbow sleeves, I might have been in trouble. G It is cool, man. I don't Miss Cold Games at all. Yeah, you know. I mean I missed playing football, but I don't miss cold like that. You can take that, I mean, I'll, I'd rather playing a hundred ten. Yeah, you don't sweat and and and do all that kind of stuff. So you had the secredible career. Why Texas am, you know, Gust Man, growing up in Dallas. I kind of grew up in the NACITY, you know, both parent household, but we wasn't living how to hog anything. So I got letters from all over the country. Bit I wanted to stay kind of closed, not to farm home, and that way any event, that if my parents want to come to a game they could at least, you know, drive there or whatever. So I've visited back then of the southwest conference and and the big twelve, but I've visited Oklahoma, Oklahoma state, and then I...

...visited Smu, which was writing Dowallas, Taylor Texas, an M and university Texas and just went on my visits and had a pretty good time most places I went. I just knew with SMU I didn't want to be that close to home. Right tracks and I could get home from SMU and fifteen minutes. But I knew they were going to go. I knew it was going on probation. They was just too wide open what they would going. I mean, yeah, they had a really good team. That was right after Eric Dixon and all those guys. Let and jared ball was my hosts jove around it. I was just like man, I really like this. See me, because they ran the options. Mcahaney was a quarterback, then Craig James and there Getson. I mean they want a lot of games, but I said now it's too close to home and went to Anim and had some previous people that have went to my high school that had, you know, played football or sports there and just really had a good time and I felt like that was the right place and sign with Texas am and and it was. It was really good for me. I think it was the best decision for me. texting and rolls you into reoccurring what I made a text messages message and data rates me apply. Come on, when we're rep you got this and there it is nice work. You're a beast. Thanks. Man. I feel better than I have in years and I got to tell you, taking new jeneks makes a huge difference for me. New Jenne's, that's the testosterone booster, with TV ads, with Frank Thomas, the big hurt right. Oh Yeah, the patented key and greeting is Testifin, which helps boost free testosterone levels and increase lean muscle mass. Well, it's clearly working for you. Hey. 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Yeah, so you had a couple high school teammates that were played in the NFL too as well. Right, yeah, are Wallace. We Graduate High School together. We went to take him together, and then few years after me was Kevin Williams. He got draft. He went to U Versu and Miami, but he played with the cowboys. He's like a receiver pot return account, like a pet award type, you know, real explosive type guides. Yeah, yeah, so, yeah, so you've had you go through am you have a good career, you decide to go there and then you talked about a little bit about your senior year. You trying to figure out like hey, I got a shot to go. You get drafted by the dolphins. Where were you during the draft? Like everybody has a different story, where they were, how...

...they found out they got drafted. Yeah, I was. I went home. I was in Dallas, my parents house, and I think it was maybe maybe an NBC camera there. I see gets somebody like that. That got a couple calls. I think the saints called me. I think Kansas City called me and my line coach from the dolphins called me and everybody was saying, well, if you are we're going to take you, but we don't think it's going to be there, but if you there, we're going to take you. And I was like okay, but I said, man, they probably called for the four guys and tell him the same thing. Yeah, if it happens, it happens. And then the draft started and I was watching the draft and then I think around about this six pick, they started talking, well, maybe they could take, you know, think six people. Was the bears and they said they can use a line and they took more carry safety out of USC and then I knew the seventh pick was Detroit and they had to run and shoot, so I think they would take Andre where quarterback in the eighth pick was New England and they took Chris Singhamson, Lineman and linebacker. As soon as they took him, my phone was ringing and I picked up the phone. It was Kach shoola and he said, Hey, this is coach. Will you ready to build dolphin? I said yes, sir. So I was so bad. Actually, I say I'm wrong. With Palm Trees. Is Boll warm. You know, it gets warm there, that's for sure. I mean you can, you can actually breathe, because they would tell you all of you projected to go here and there, but till it happens, man, you know, I couldn't calm down. And then the thing I do remember about, even though it was an eighth pick, and he told me that I had to wait. I think they got fifteen minutes back then, so I had to wait then time they took up the entire fifteen minutes before they announced the pick and he's just said wait, we going to announce them, like if you going to pick me, what you waiting now? I'm like, I don't they still do that stuff in the draft. I don't know why they do that. If you know who you're picking, just put it up there. Let's go put it up there. And I was like, man, y'all making me wait because I'm like I don't want y'a out of Timmy, this thing y'all change and I'm like I need to hear come across the TV. But yeah, once I once I got drafted, man, I could breathe. I was happy, my family was happy and it was really good time. So yeah, yeah, so you get to Miami, obviously be no they've had you were going to where one of the greatest quarterbacks that ever played the game was. Can do you remember like something that Damn Marino said to you and Training Camper? Did you know? Because there's always those first memories where whether it was positive or negative, but you just like, oh, he's the guy, you know what I mean? Like you remember anything like that? Well, it would. You have to remember. I ain't knowing, bet I remember. I got to Miami. It's a funny story, guys. So you know, you come in, got the draft and you come in for many camp so come for me and then we had pretty decent facilities into that and so gud picks me up in like one of those fifteen passenger white panel vans. What nobody else in there, but I guess that was the Vanda was using kind of like a church Van. Big Right, right now deal. So I'm sitting up there and so the guys driving and he pulls up to the facility and I look at it and I said, he said, we're here. I said, man, stop playing. No, it's us, man, stop playing. I know no NFL team has for this was before they moved the day and all, yeah, yeah, he said all this and I finally got out and I could not believe it, but I just said, okay, I'm a roll with it, and then I think I met with something the media, and then it was mini camp. So, you know, y'all go into like a team meeting and then, you know, everybody breaks down. Individuals went out for line. So me and keep Sunds, we were the top to picks, so we were offensive line. We get in the huddle. So, you know, I think that's when it kind of felt like it was really, really know, Damn introduced him self and the thing, the thing I kind of surprised me was, you know, Dan was like six five, so he was yeah, almost asking. Man, he's tall, you know, you said, but you don't think about that. And then you had duper and Clayton, you know, these guys by five nine, but I'm yeah, and it was like man, you almost kind of like pink yourself, as I guess is it's really real. And then I think it was came in. I think it was it was mini camp, and he came up to me and Katy say come, let me ask you our question. So what's the most important thing you got to remember? So we looking at each other and we like, man, it's do to put us on the spot. It was just US three. You know, he did call us out of front of the whole team. Yeah, we said, like remember the place. It now, and I was like the snap count. He's like now. So...

...we're going, damn, what the other talk about? He said most thing, the most important thing to remember, is to protect me, and we kind of laughing bit. I'm like, Bro, you had to tell me that, because I'm like you are really a legend, and I tell people all the time the thing that out that kept me motivated, was I never wanted to be to be remembered as the guy that got like Damn Marino hurt. You know, I'm saying, yeah, it's already just to that. But it was kind of funny because, I mean, we were struggling to come up with an answer and I was like and what is it? What is it? He's not. Most important thing is for taking y'all protect me. Yeah, it's not that. I don't care if you remember the play. Yeah, it's as long as your guy doesn't hit me. That's yeah, we all just we was on his blindside, Gus. So, yeah, who rookies on the blast side? That was unheard of. So it was like okay. So I was like damn. Yeah, you know, and Dan was also known for throwing some legendary parties as well, and we men. I playing this golf tourn and I've been to his house and with the motor around it. You know, I don't know if he lives there anymore. But but you know what, people say whatever they want, but when you meet him and you sit and B ass with them, yeah, man, it's he fun. Is he down to earth and you just connect with them right away. Well, I think people look at it and and say, Oh, he's a snap bit. He's a Pittsburgh guy just like you. I mean, yeah, Dad, Blue College. You know, this one thing about the city and a lot of the in the NFC NORF like Cleveland, Pittsburgh. It's just a lot of those are blue collar people. This hard working people, the good people, and you could tell that was in steel to him at an early age. But a lot of time when you don't know people kind of get a perception. But then, like you said, you get inviting, you get me the all. He's pretty cool guy. But yeah, you're exactly right that he was just laying down on earth. But just I think that's why he was so competitive. This that coming from Pittsburgh and I think, I'm sure he came up. He was a huge Pittsburgh pirates fan, because you play baseball. Oh yeah, I mean that was pant to growing up right there in Pittsburgh. So yeah, yeah, I mean that pit. I know. I mean that's amazing and just had an incredible career pit. Some amazing players came out of pit with him and through that era, you know, and in the thing is it's like you grew up. My Dad laid on a you know, he get home from work, he'd work in his garden, he'd lay on his reclins little glider out in the porch and listened to his transistor Radio Pittsburgh Pirates every game. And then then you. You know, our parents did that. Like Pittsburgh. You're right, Pittsburgh is such a small, big city, yeah, that everybody just fall like sports teams and steelers and penguins, the the pirates, and it just kind of gets hingrained in you. It gets some grammy, you know, probably just like you know in every cowboy, Dan probably knew every steeler from the S. Yeah, and and matter of fact, I actually what he was some Texas, but he played mean Joe Green and he was on the staff and always looked up to him. You know, it was certain players against the way the League was back then, only if you were on the team, you on that team. So it was you could easily identify certain players with certain teams. So getting opportunity, he coach D limber bit, I always picked his brain, you know, meeting, the meeting, the legend every guy like like mean Joe Green and look Fard. And the other thing I was going to tell you is after I got drafted, my cottage coach, which was dance cottage coach, Jackie Cheryl. Yeah, he called me up and say hey, you make sure you take care of Danny. So we would always talk about you know, coach Jerk Jackie errow the summer similarities. But to right some of that. Some of those teams did damn played on all the players that played in NFL. I mean it was loaded back then. Yeah, and yeah, well, western Pennsylvania used to being known for, you know, getting players to the to the big schools and then going on to the NFL. At one point, I don't know if it's still true, but we had the most hall of famers out of Western PA. And you know, that's kind of are local football here is going downhill where I know Dallas and Texas, their football is just I think they're just blowing everybody else out of the water. Yeah, but back then, you right, it was. I mean it was a WHO's list of I was like you just most of the time, like you said, being down here, you don't really follow pick like that. But then when I start looking at the names, and that's like when this guy, this guy is gay. I was looking at this offensive line and I was like just my everybody played in the pros on here. It's crazy, right. I was like Russ, Graham, mark May,...

...there's a you just get the list goes on and on. You know. You Know Bill Freylick, Jimbo cover? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a lot of a lot, a lot of guys. So you have his great career and and you make incredible friendships. So who is your guy? That was like your guy with the dolphins. It was probably keep sounds. where it was it was. That was the guy, even though I mean we got d actually one to but that, I'll tell you. Gus, you would swore we went to schools from probably elementary. It was just like a natural. When we walk I would be in a left hop of position. He would be in the left going. Yeah, I don't know how they figured that out, but that was and we got to where we communicated so well. We could either look at each other just, you know, do certain things to wear, you know, defensive line beat. They know certain school blocks and team and double. Oh yeah, we wouldn't say things and it made our job easier because we could just say, okay, this, if this happens, is we're going to do. If not, we're going to do this, and we just work so well together. And Man, that was he made my job so much easier. So yeah, without a doubt, key SAMs was was that guy. Well, yeah, you and then you played for a long time. You were obviously alignment of the decade in the s and you played something against some incredible defensive players. So who is a guy that made you nervous? The guy that the toughest guy had to play against was Bruce Smith, without a doubt. And you know back then that's when buffalo went to for super bowls in a row the league and you know playing them sometimes not only twice because of the same division, but sometimes three times, haven't played a gap bit. You know, he just did everything extremely well. Played to run, great pass rushing, has several past rest moves. One of the toughest guys almost couldn't cut him off. So you know it was going to be sixty minutes of hey, yeah like that. But you look forward to it all these idea because that was the measurement stick. You always want to play against the best to see you know, how you doing, if you fare pretty good, not saying you went all the battles, but if you played pretty good. So okay, I know I can compete in this league. So that was a guy and I think my rookie I play against Bruce Smith, I play against Derek Thomas, I play against Lt Chris don't, I mean, and I started figuring out and say it doesn't matter. Every week it's somebody's coming. Yeah, it's just like one up to another. With bit I would if I had to choose someone, it would be Bruce Smith. Yeah, you know, and I met my cousin, Mitch, played for the bills and he was alignment for the bills through three of those super bowls. And when I would go and I met Bruce Smith for the first time and you know, he's a big, big guy, but his arms, his arms were so long, like usually it's like left tackle. You guys arms are long and you get that punch. Yet he could counter that so well, you know, with those long arms. Yeah, and he was a probably about six for but his arms like to say, we're extremely along. So and and and that's the Sept If. Sometimes you go to grab a guy, he can just shed your right quick and you know he had it burst to like what he did that. You know, he could really shorten that corner and its and that that was he had perfected that move. But you right here we see a guy and he's got that long warms that you can come you can create some some difficult situations for you at times and there's no doubt. Hey, everyone, thanks joining me on huddle up with Gus. I appreciate you listening to us. CHECK US out wherever you listen to your favorite podcast, or you can go to my website. Ullo up with gustcom. So, whether you've had a great career, we're talking with Richmond Webb everyone. And you know, I think about like my career. Fifteen years. You played. What was it? Thirteen? Thirteen? Yeah, so thirteen years for you as alignment. That's that's insane to me, because you guys are just pounding every day. But like when it's over, you have people don't realize how hard that is for us because when it's over there's no adult league for us. There's no like walking back into the facility for us. There's no going to lifting in the weight room again for us or get seeing a trainer. We lose all of that and that's really difficult. How did you manage all that when you left? You know, it's funny bring it up and you exactly right, and like to see you've been doing this. Like you said, you did a fifteen and then you got another four. So and caps, almost twenty years. So for me, like you say, it's no gradual. was just either on the team or Yeat the just you going.

And so it took me about, I think, four years to just man. I kind of I can remember like when it was like after the draft, and then I knew it would be many camp time and I'd be sitting at home and I'm like you just feel like like you not settle. You like man, I possibly be doing something else, but you're not. And then when training camp time will come around, you know you'd be like man, lonely camp with the guys. It's mad and your bodies aching, because you know, you get used to it. They they don't do two days no more. But you know, back then we get two days and the long meeting, long days and and then I kind of got away from watching football as much because I had to. I had to find something else to feel that void, because it football takes up so much of your time and when you've been in a regiment like it's here for fifteen years or thirteen years, almost twenty years, it's like you just go from that to nothing. So it took me about four years. The first two was real, real tough and then I will watch a little bit and then I will be watching, say, like the dolphins play. Yeah, and they would lose a tough game that I felt they should have one I would be pissed off like two or Treo days and I was like, I'm like man, I got to get it together. Bit By that fourth year I was able to where I could start back kind of watching football and then join it and stuff like that. Bit It was it was a rough transition. Yeah, it is a rough transit. Did you coach or what you do when you left? Like what did you work or or were you just say, okay, I'm retiring, I'm going to take a break, I'm retired and I wasn't doing anything. I think that's what kind of helped me. I was at Church and I start ushering and I remember I had a pickup truck, a Duley, and a guy came to paint our house and he's like he was using he's like yeah, man, you make money hot shot, and I said hot shot and that's what's hot shot. So basically I had a due truck and you probably seen them, but maybe I'll pay attention to a bit. In Houston I got a lot of all feel equipment, Hall and pipe stuff like that. So yeah, you can get a CDL. I had a duly pickup truck and I had a forty foot flat bed trailer and I could put Pallettes, all pipe or all field equipment on it and basically signed up with a company, least on with a company, and it was said, okay, you picked this up in Houston, you take it to New Orleans or you take it Sowhay in Houston, or you might go to Dallas and you take it a come back. And so I really like doing I did that for about eight years. But what I realized about it was you just tell me where to pick it up and what time I beat there and I could do that that I didn't have anybody like micro management, like hey, we're yeah, and so I did that. And then after that, well, I was doing some little real estate investment deals or did a little bit of that, but my daytoday was hot shadden. And then I did that for about eight years and then after that I had got into water wastewater. I did that for a few years. We had a little company and then we have always at the city Houston, and then that contract another. We were, we were we would have sub upon their prime and once that contract ended, it was kind of good. I think that was sixteen. So what doing anything? Then Hurricane Harvey came through Houston. Yeah, that was a bad house got flooded. Oh really, it was. It was. Yeah, I was bless we got about a foot and a half a water, you know, and how so we had to read do that. But it was good because I could be here and I kind of learned some things by just making watching the contractors and stuff, you know, put the House back together, and then I just got some round properties and now just chilling my kids out the house. My youngest one is in college at Texas am so just now trying to figure out how to get empty Nester. So I'm gonna it's now. It won't be empty for long. They always come back. My both my both my sons are living with us right now to they graduated. They graduated during Covid Okay drug struggle to find jobs and then now one's a real estate agent but he's still living home. Gunner, my oldest one, of my youngest one, Gabe, just got a job with a podcasting company and he's all virtual so they're both at home, but everybody, you know, it's they're never gone there, never have to pay roll. So you know what I mean. That's just how it goes. You know, you're always going to get that called. My daughter always gives me that called Dad. I'm like, okay, what is it? What do we need? You know, as long as they're healthy, I'm cool with it. Like it is. Yeah, you know what I mean. And but yeah, it is. It is difficult to go through that when we we're done because probably, like me, you probably just focused on football your...

...whole career. Right. It's yeah, you know, we didn't. We didn't say like, okay, after my career's over, here's what I want to do. I never even kind of fought about those things, right, because I was trying to play. You trying to play, and you know what it takes to continue to write, try to main that maintainance, same level of play. And I can remember, I think later on in my career they start having where you could go and turn with different companies and stuff like that, but I was like, I'll have time for that, because that would take away my focus from football. And if I'm not prepared, I'M NOT gonna be the same type of player that they expect me to be. So I never took advantage of those at that time. And then, but you said once you once you're done, I think that would be the time. You know, let's see if you can do that. But I didn't, and you know, I just didn't think I agree with you. I just don't think you had time. I think if you focused on football, that's what you're doing, and you want to be the best day and you got to put the time and you gotta put the work in and I think that's why we were as successful as we were. Yeah, you know, any other part for me was, you know, when I did have offtime, I was going to be with my family. That was my my thing, my kids, my wife, we're going to go, I'm going to go watch and play football. Go, you know. So that was an off time. It's like, okay, yeah, I could go to do these classes or I could spend the time with my family, and I was. For me, it was all about my family. Yeah, yeah, family and families what's important because, like you said, your wife, especially during the season, she has to do a lot with the family because where you play quarterback, so your film steady stuff was a lot more intense than you like other guys this net. So you said the time you spent at the facilities, that get home, eat there and then you know your wife or responsible for that. So, like you said, when you do get little break, it's good to spend time with family because other than the offseason, you don't, you don't get that much time during during the doing the football season. Yeah, I always try to get up really early to go into the facility and watch film and stuff, because if you got home after five, right the kids are home, they're we're running crazy. It's like, how do you even think about studying or watching film during all that? Like you can't process all that stuff. So I don't go in early when every still sleep and and do a my take care of my business. then. Yeah, that was it. Do it early and that wait because you want to win him. Damn, because for you know it this time to lay down and get ready to start a day over again. So, yeah, yeah, well, you and Keith Sims were you? You had to go to the beach after practice. Yeah, nothing, go to the beach, I think. But you know, the good thing, Miami was beautiful, but a lot of time it was hot and heal it. And so by the time you get through one of those practices, you just want to grab some Acye and kind of kick back in the house, and that's what I do. Yeah, now that's I mean, I hear when I played Miami that one year it was so hot. I remember I came out and it you're supposed to put like the thing on your dashboard, like your window, so it reflects the sun back, and I came out like my dashboard was all wavy and melted. I was like what that mean? It's Oh man, you can get hot there. And then my neighbor's yelling. I remember we lived in this little neighborhood and plantation and my neighbors she comes out of the front of the House. She's yelling snake, snake. I'm like, okay, whatever, it's probably a little snake. I'll go get it. You know, they don't scare me. Some people they do, but I go on the back it's just sixteen foot like bow constrictor and I'm like Nope, yeah, I'm like it's just slithering right through a yard and I'm like that's this. There's some crazy stuff down here in Florida. Well, you know what the problem is, Gust is a lot of people will get those excidic snakes and when they get to be either day on the skate what, are just leasa any and they'll go out there and and start reproducing. And that's what in the everglaze's stolen the ecosystem off the come man. It's a perfect breeding ground for all those kind of animals. Yeah, and it's taken over. I mean they're making shows about all that stuff now. Like you think those guys go out and catch those things. I don't like grab them right behind the head when they go to strike at you, and I'm like that's just insane. Yeah, yeah, those horses. I'm not doing that right. I'd rather have Bruce Smith run me over. Ben It's funny, but yeah, man, I had so many good times. I got so many good memories playing with you, and I just said, you know, I appreciate you coming on and joining me and taking some spentance of time and going back through and telling some stories and you know, hopefully you forget all those, those two years at the Bengals, just remember the good years at the dolphins. Well, I guess I've met you. I miss...

...some really good people and they they really treated me well up there. You know I'm saying so, Oh yeah, they I mean that's that's that's never the problem. I think they're good people every place, but it's just you want to win, like when you play, you want to win and you want to have that fans and the people behind you, and I don't think any of us felt that and Cincinnati when we were there. You know, the only guy ass all every day that was supremely happy was Kenny Anderson, my quarterback coach, who played in Cincinnati. Was loved and Cincinnati and just every day came in there was he he's to dip and there was there're just dip all over our papers. He'd hand up to the plays in the morning and it and I remember me and Achille and John Wold just be laughing. We sitting there and be like, okay, what is going on, man? But Kenny was just one of those guys. Every day was a great day. Yeah, it was. I just try to focus on the good times. I lose some bad times, but I don't think about that. But I do get, when we were talking earlier, that count will flick back. All it does wear on your mental and I thought about that. So, yeah, I do remember that and yeah, you know, and it does. It does wear on your mental because you're dealing with it all the time. And I try to just laugh about it. I'm and try to find things that were funny to us, like when when the strength coach would bring his son in and he'd like, he'd like clean and press like a ninety pound dumb bell and the coach would be like see, that's how you do it, boy, and I'm like what are we really really this is happening, and I look at Lorenzo and he'd be like, HMM, yeah, that's happening. It was like a hole my God, yes, it was. It was crazy, but yeah, man, I appreciate you joining me and you know, I wish you all the best. Is there anyway how can our fans and people fall to you or find you? Yeah, I'm on social media, probably twitter more than anything. I don't tweet all the time, but on twitter I'm Richmond Web, at Richmand Webb, on facebook at Richmand Webb and Gus. I actually got an instagram account about maybe three or four months ago. Still kind of learning that one bit. I was surprised somebody actually had my name on instagram. So, Oh, you had to get it back from him. Well, well, I just put instead of Richm Webb at the real richmond where. So the real richman web is me. Okay, my had risen webs I can't wait. I can't wait to see your tick tocks with you out in the garden. No, I'm not doing the two I love. I love looking at the tick tock videos. But Yeah, man, you can go down a rabbit hold those things. You go down a big time of rabbit hole. Like, where did that hour go? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I try, I try. I'd rather be outside the yard. I'm with you on that one. All right, buddy. Hey, I appreciate you, man. Thank you so much for joining me and I'm gonna get a little neel on and maybe you can be a special guest that we surprised him. Man, I'd be happy to brow. I appreciate you having me on my show with brought back good memories and always good to see you and talking years. But man, it feels like we're sitting at the facility in the locker room just shooting. I hear you just just with a little more gray now, just a little bit. Yeah, just a little bit all right, where they appreciate your everyone. That was the great rich Man will web. I appreciate you joining me on huddle up with gusts. Check me out and huddle up with guestscom or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Please give us a like and share. If you see us on social media, just at Hoddle up with guests. Simple, go listen to us, check us out. Check out Richmond Web at Richmond Web, and he's got a new instagram account at the Real Richmond Web. So check them out. I appreciate you listening, give us some likes and shares and we'll see you next week on huddle up with gusts. That's a wrap sports. Thanks for joining in the fun at studios for a numbers cuddle up with guests featuring fifteen year NFL quarterback Gustar rock. Huddle up with gusts is probably produced by one thousand six hundred and thirty one digital medio and is available on Appy Music.

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