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Welcome to what surely will be a doozy of a match up. Brian here. Sports Fans, whether your game is on the Gridiron, at the diamond or on the links, we can only say get up off your seats and get ready for some real action. Welcome to this week's huddle up with Gus. Fifteen year NFL quarterback Gus Bar Rot Passion for sports has taken him on the field and behind the benches. Playing for seven NFL franchises. With one hundred fourteen TD's under his belt, Gust knows who the players are and how the Games are one every day get to hang out with an Hennall quarterback. Up Oka, sports fans, from the decked out and plush sixteen thirty one digital studios, it's kickoff time, so snap your chinstraps on and keep remit to huddle up with us. Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Huddle up with Guss. I'm your host, gusts fraud. Thanks for joining me today on this snowy day in Pittsburgh. We've had some crazy weather here in the past few weeks, but, you know, I think we're going to do a special show today. We got a special guest. He's related to me, he's my son. But gunner is going to come on with me. We're going to have a great day to day and we're going to talk a little bit about the two thousand and twenty one season that we just had and then we're going to come into the playoffs and then go through the Sunday's games to games and we'll see who we pick to be victorious to go to the Super Bowl. So, gunner, first of all, how you doing, buddy? I'm good. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, I know, glad to have you on. I know you study a little bit about all these quarterbacks all weeks, so tell us a little bit about what you've been studying. You know about all the NFL court for the quarterbacks. have been looking at their per drive statistics, so how they push the ball down field, how many plays they get per drive, how many yards for drive points per drive, everything like that. I think that's a good analysis of their consistency. And then I've looked at their week two weeks steps, like basically using fantasy numbers just to get how just to get a gist of how consistent they are week to week. Yeah, so I you know, I have your ranks here. Oh yeah, the quarterbacks from this year. You know, I don't think that takes into accunt playoffs. It's just regular season. But do you remember who you rank number one? Tom Brady, and tell me why he was your number one and all the stuff that you've done for analytics for this. I think he is number one because not only he's throwing the ball the most amount of times, I believe, but he still has the most yards and the most touchdowns. And they've dealt with some injuries on the bucks team as well, including their defense, their top two of their top three receivers. They're a running back and then they just actually had a lineman her. But then's playoffs. But despite all of that, he's still been the number one guy and he led them to a thirteen and four record, I think, with not a lot of run games. So I think he's just put the team on his back, like he always does now. So then, if he's number one and we look at the MVP voting for this year, do you think that he should win the MVP or there are other people besides? You know, I'm sure Aaron Rodgers patron homes up there are there are other people that should be in the running that you think that had a great season if it wasn't so court quarterback oriented. I think there should be others considered, like Jonathan Taylor, because you look at what happens when Jonathan Taylor's taken out of the game. The colts are pretty bad, but you know when he's able to run for a hundred yard, hundred twenty yards and score touchdown, they're pretty the records probably pretty positive. And then someone like Cooper Cup, but it's hard to give MVP to a...

...slot receiver, even though the numbers are crazy. It's not like he is the reason they're winning. I would say yeah, but I mean he's done things that nobody ever has in the NFL. Right, HMM. Well, yeah, the triple crown is crazy that he won that, but he's still is second in yard all time to Calvin Johnson, and in one less game or one more game. So that's a record that I don't think. I don't know if it'll ever be broken, even with the seventeen games. Well, yeah, and humble was cooper's average catch per game. And then yards is pretty high. Yeah, he's definitely like in the s two hundred area. I'd say seventeen games he had a nineteen hundred yards. So it's probably like one, one hundred and twenty year, one hundred and ten. And you know, and people know, he's the guy that the rams go to and he still gets open. When you look at other teams that have other great receivers, they don't always get open. Right, teams lock him down, double cover em. Even if they do that the Cooper Cup, he's somehow gets open. Yeah, I think that's something you could probably point towards McVeigh for doing, putting him in the slot and getting up scheming him open. But if you looked at someone like the packers in the playoffs, they they did. They didn't do a good job of scheming Davante Adams Open. I don't think the forty niners were still able to bracket him in double and then kind of take him out of the game after the first drive. Well, I feel the same way about Stefan digs m when the bills played the chiefs. Right, I know you Davis had four touchdowns, but I mean that's your best receiver and he's had he didn't even get a catch, I don't think, untill the fourth quarter. HMM. But they're they're all similar guys where if you know, if it's cover one and they have man to man coverage, they're going to get open. But I think that's why you kind of Oh McVey a little credit because of Cooper Cup in the playoff still managed to get a hundred eighty yards receiving and a touchdown. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean if you think about if you were just a fan, you didn't watch too much. You know under you've heard of Cooper Cup, but can you name any of their other receivers? There were. Yeah, besides, before Odell came and Robert Woods was hurt, they really didn't have any other, you know, extras. They didn't have an ex receiver. Was Just Cooper Cup schemed open, I feel like, because Van Jefferson is a young guy who hasn't really proven himself as a number one or number two. So after woods got hurt, they really were relying on Cooper Cup. Do you think that Cooper Cup? You know, you talked about McVey doing these schemes right and being in the NFL for as long as I was, we always try scheme people, but you can only scheme if they know how to do it for you right. So, yeah, I think Cooper Cup has a high intelligence of football. You don't mean how to get open, what the coaches want him to do. For sure. I've seen a few of his interviews and I know you can just tell by the way he talks about the coverage, the blitz, whatever pack is they're in, and then he can kind of see it all develop as he's running the route, which is a pretty special talent for a receiver. I know when I play we always had to, you know, watch the safeties on your first three steps just to see what the coverage was, and that's not it's easier said than done just to see that the corners clouded or there's too high or whatever, and then he's able to adjuct his route based on that, and that's not easy. So I think he definitely is a smart player, especially for how young he is. Yeah, you know, and it's something you have to work at. You just can't go out and do it. Then when I interviewed Warren Moon a few weeks ago, he was talking about his receivers in in in Texas when he played for the Houston Oilers, that they did have a lot of routes, but every route could be changed depending on the coverage, and you know you just don't see a lot of guys doing that. You try to do it. Maybe you have one route that does that, but they had, you know, he said we had twenty routes and you know, we just you knew if it was covered to you do...

...this and cover one. You did this and we all knew it and we worked at it. And you think that's better than just coming up with play after play after play after play. I do it, especially if the quarterback in the receiver on the same page, and then you're able to find an opening, whatever the coverage is, no matter what plays called, like man, zone zone. You sit something is basically as that. You're able to find a space in the defense to get open. But your whole all your receivers have to know it right, because you can't have one guy run a man another guy running zone. So they all have to understand the system. Yeah, Yep, they all of another conversions and everything to make the play go well. Now, if we go back to the beginning of last season, you know we were all excited here in the fraud household about the season to start. We watched everything happen up through training camp up and then one of your favorite teams and players at the Ravens Lamar, all of a sudden he started losing a lot of people. So tell me what do you think was the biggest injuries for you know that happened last year. You know, two teams. So there's other stories that we're going to talk about. But as far as injuries go, who do you think had the worst injuries? That really didn't, you know, let them get to the playoffs because these people are injured? We'll start with the ravens because even with their preseason injuries, Marcus Peters, jk Dobbins and got said words. They're like top top three starters or three starters. They still were six and six and two at one point before the dolphins game. So they overcame that. And then Lamar got hurt and then their season. I think they went like one and seven to finish the season. So they were kind of doomed all season, even though midway through it looked pretty promising, but they just couldn't couldn't stop the bleeding really. And then you look at another team like the titans, even though they made the playoffs. They Lost Derrick Henry for I think ten games or however long it was, but they were still able to secure the one seeds. So that's pretty crazy to me. And then you go somewhere like the steelers, where they lost jujus Smith Schuster. It kind of put the dent in their past game. And then, and let's see, another inlar back that got pants. Yeah, the panthers lost their star running back who was kind of their whole offense. If if he's not clicking, then not a lot is working for them. And then the saints, I think lost a big part in Jameis Winston, because the first week they blew the packers out and then he kind of fizzled out, played two, played mediocre, played a good game, played a bad game and then he was hurt the rest of the year and they just kind of were, you know, subpar all year. And then I can't really think of a lot of other injuries, you know, just a few games here and there. Like the bucks, I said, they lost Chris God went for the playoffs, which hurts. They lost baby two, some mental issues or whatever he's got going on. They lost Leonard Fournette, so their team was just beat up by the time they got to the divisional round. All right, gonna, before we take a break, it got to remind you there's one guy that we know really well that got hurt in the first game of the season. Yeah, fit see, it's magic. Yeah, that's shame. We excited to watch him playing. We were excited, I think, that they were going to have a good team around them. You know, it fits Hes, a guy that takes a lot of shots down field, plays aggressively. Guys Love Them, you know. I think that was a big blow for Washington. HMM. Yeah, that that was hard. I think he's more he's able to push the ball down field more, which would open up their run game and things like that at and maybe put some more points on the board for the offense to help the defense out. Yeah, and then I'll scream on there too. And then, yeah, that doesn't help. I think you lose the best players on both sides at that. That doesn't help at all. HMM, Hey, everyone, thanks for listening to huddle up with Gus.

We appreciate you coming on and listen to our two thousand and twenty one football show. You can catch us at huddle up with Gustscom or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. I'm joined today by my son, gunner. Gunner and I we probably have watched in our my other son, gave, who's on the road right now. We've probably watched every game through NFL red zone this year. And Gunner, why do you think that you like watching red zone better than just one game? It's nice because you get a whole gift of the week, every team that plays, and especially if you're a fantasy, fantasy guy like we are. You know, you flip through a game, you see your guy get the ball and you get all excited. It kind of sucks because you don't actually see what happens every play and that kind of tove. That usually helps with the whole story of how the game went down, but it is nice just to get a gift of what happened for every game. Yeah, it's better than when I grew up, when you had one game on TV at one time that was all you watch, but you also did get into the game and but I think with the red zone to let you be a fan of more people. HMM. Yeah, I think red zone and fantasy are the biggest advocates for that because you're rooting for people instead of teams half the time, which is I think it's more, not more, fun. But it's fun for us because we moved around so much that we don't really have a home team, so it's perfect for us to watch all of our guys. Who Do you think is a bigger armchair quarterback? Me Or Gabe? I think Gabe is pretty hard on guys. He is pretty fun. I'Mard on them to but not like Gabe. I think you're right. Games pretty tough on people. is be more influenced by betting, but yeah, it gets pretty angry when these guys don't perform. Yeah, he does, or they don't get that last catch to get them to the catch as he needs. That's pretty funny. So if you had to look at two thousand and twenty one, there were a ton of big stories that happened this year. What do you think was the biggest story for two thousand and twenty one? I would say two teams that really weren't projected to be good at all but still made the playoffs, the bangles and the eagles. I think they were in rebuild years. It's hard to say that the bangles where with Joe Burrow, but no one knew how they would be. People were kind of mad they drafted Jamar chase over alignment to protect Joe, but it ended up being the best choice they could have made because he went ballistic all year and their connection is on matched. So I think they actually made the right choice, which I did not think when they drafted him, and they went from winning how under six games last year to competing in the AC championship. But we seen Joe take a lot of hits, I mean the guys. He's got a lot of grit. I would say that now what they should do is just drafts lineman and, yeah, compete and have the best ones, you know, because he got to protect your most valuable players, there's no doubt. Yeah, if they don't, if they don't win the AC this year, then next year. They have the top three receipt they have a top five receiving corps, they have a top five running back at the top ten. At least they're tight end puts up good numbers. They just got to build the line and protect him now. Yeah, and so some negative stories that happened this year. Obviously we had the raiders. Everyone knows what happened with them. What do you how do you feel like their staff did and their players did to get through all that, because they had a coach, the head coach, leave, they had a star receiver get into a terrible accident that killed somebody and now he's in jail and they still made the playoffs and had a chance to go pretty far. Yeah, they're they pretty much defined resilience, I'd say, and their coach, I think his name is Ray Besachia is his name, but he did just a great job of managing the team and coming out of nowhere really...

...and letting them go to the playoffs and I think they're off. Has a coordinator, Greg Olds, and did a great job of kind of forming a balanced offense that let Derek Carr throw the ball when he needed to and let their run game work as well. Josh Jacobs. Yeah, because I think they had some good elements to their team. Obviously, Max crosby's a good defensive end, good great pass rusher. We saw him pressure a lot of people in Games, you know, and they put together obviously a old coach that I had, Greg Olson, was the offensive coordinator after Gruden left, and I thought he did a great job of understanding his players and the talent and whatever they had and they just kind of came together as a team and I think next sure that'll make them stronger. Yeah, definitely, and if it kind of sucks that they lost rugs because he was such a good deep threat, but he was replaceable, obviously. And they they're they're so good using waller in the slot of the tight end slash receiver, I think, where he can win one on one matchups with any safety that you know, their offense is pretty dynamic. So you know, in the last big story, I think, was, if you look at the show and Watson. You know, with the Texans we saw a quarterback come through. Probably was you know, if he'd have been a number one pick, it's all we would have heard of and said we heard about Mac Jones all the time, but Watson was another story that I don't know if he's going to play again. What do you what do you think? I don't think that he should play. I mean, I believe in second chances, but it's just those things are so I don't know. It's just I think the NFL might be too lenion with some of that stuff when it comes to sexual assault or things like that. You know, obviously people make mistakes, but those are pretty pretty bad mistakes to make when you're, you know, aware and of age to know what you're doing. So yeah, and it's not like it was one mistake, right. It was not like it was just he said, she said thing that that, you know, happen like one time and it was a misunderstand whatever, but it was like twenty five and I think that that all needs taken into account. Yeah, you know, hey, look, you know, who are we in the NFL? Are we just going to you know, like they always say, or just a bunch of guys coming out of prison, or is it is it like we want to a wholesome kind of league that people want to go and be like yeah, in the NFL you want to resent represent the players that you know work for you pretty much essentially, and you want you want people to like the League as an organization and feel that they're doing the right things on all forms of social justice and things of that nature. So you want to when it's time to make a, you know, a decision about that stuff, you have to make the right one and has to be on the right side of history. which I don't know if they've done in the past. Well, now we know that the NFL is not always been correct or perfect. We've seen it with concussions. We've seen it with players injuries. We've seen it with the pre ninety three guys. We've seen it with a lot of stuff. But they are such a big business that some of that stuff gets swept under the rug. And you know, we see it with Colin Kaepernick. We saw that everybody. So we're never going to watch the NFL again. And then everybody it's the highest rated show every week. You know what I mean. People are never going to stop watching. But when you have that much power, I think you're right. You have to do the right thing and be on the right side of history. HMM. And honestly, I think that those guys, I hate to say that people are replaceable, but the NFL won't lose any of its power just because those guys would leave the League because they made a mistake. Now there's always somebody bigger, faster or stronger and you have to work your tail off to get to the league and you can't...

...make mistakes. And we see guys make mistakes all the time, not on the field or in the route they ran or because they were out sides, but off the field with stuff they shouldn't, you know, ruin their careers over and yet they do. And so you know, but we see all the time that guys don't get second chances on the field, but all of a sudden these guys do the wrong thing and they get a second chance because it of off the field stuff. Sometimes I don't understand how that all works, just because somebody has talent. Yeah, so I wanted to ask you about some of the rookies this year, your favorite. Let's start with just your favorite rookies that you saw play this year. My favorite rookie by far is Nagi Harris. I'd drafted him first round because I didn't want to miss the opportunity to route for him. I thought he I just knew that he would be a tank like he is, and I was so happy to see the way that he ran the ball and you know, I think he had the most touches in the league by a good amount and he didn't get hurt until that last game. I think maybe got hurt a few times, but the way he ran the ball and carry it with that mediocre line was just in so fun to watch. I think so I'd say Naji was. Yeah, I agree with you. I agree. I like watching Nagi Harris as far as all the running backs go. But Hey, everyone, I want to thank you for listening to huddle up with guss. You could check us out a huddle up with guestscom or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. You can go to Sounder FM and check me out on Sounder FM a bunch of other great podcast we're talking today with my son, gunner. We were just talking about rookies. He said his favorite rookie was Nagy Harris of the steelers, which I really like Naji. I think that he's hard to bring down. He's a great back to have and you know, I don't know if they used them all the proper way, gunner, because this was big Ben's last year. He's now retired and you know, they were trying to do urpos and stuff with them and I just don't think when you have a nonmobile quarterback that you can do that kind of thing. Yeah, because I watched yesterday, I just watched every ravens game and the way they use rpos with is much more effective than that when they do with Ben, because if Lamar pulls the ball to throw it and he doesn't like to throw, he just takes off behind the running back and it's a four or five yard game instead of a sack or in eligible lineman down field or whatever. Right. But I think with Naji, he's such a good receiving back to I know one game he had like thirteen catches on fourteen targets or something, which is crazy for a running back, but that's a he's a he's a all purpose back that you can use first or third down and he's he's obviously built to stay in yeah, all drive for every drive. Yeah, I think he's definitely somebody you can build your offense around over the next five years. Right, because we know running backs don't last forever and they have a shorter career than most people. But what do you think the steelers are going to do, as far as you know, with Big Ben retired, who they're going to use? They're going to go out and draft a guy or they going to use a veteran? I I know a lot of people are saying to get a veteran, but I you just had a rookie first round pick play for eighteen years and when two super bowls, why not go for another rookie? Like if Kenny pick, it falls to the steelers. I wish, I hope they take him. Yeah, do you think bunny is the kind of the guy that, of all the quarterbacks coming out it will be the best quarterback? I think so. Yes, I think he's the biggest. He's got some of the best arm talent and he's He's played on a team that he kind of carried in a way because their defense wasn't it's not like Pitt is, Clemson or Alabama. To beat teams you have to, you know, Kenny's gonna have to put the team on his back every game. He had a few few games that were kind of weird, like the Western...

Michigan game where they didn't win, which is odd, but he also had games where he beat, you know, some pretty good competitors like Clemson or something like that. Right. Yeah, so, you know, you look at Kenny's got to have a you know he's going to be drafted somewhere. He's going to go to a team. So you think about all the rookies that came out last year, quarterbacks, right, and the guys are dreft, Trevor Lawrence, first pick, you know Mac Jones was taken, you have Trey Lance, you have justin fields, and then the guy that nobody knew about but played really well for the Texans is Davis Mills. What do you like? What do you think is the hardest adjustment for these guys? Like why does some of these guys that are taken so highly don't do well and other ones that do do well? Do you think it's coaching or do you think it's just their their talent level? I think a little bit of both. Like Matt Jones playing for Alabama. I always say this, but it might not be true, but it's what I think is that playing for Alabama, playing quarterback at Alabama is one of the easiest places to play quarterback. Although your level of competition is high, you're still playing with these like your whole offense is going to be in the NFL and those your whole defense. They're playing with an NFL like basically a NFL team in college against college teams. We yet me she's if you think about it, like look at their running backs. It's come out of Alabama right last five years or ten years. Yeah, can you name probably ten running backs have come out of Alabama that are starting. Yes, you know, it's just crazy. HMM. But not as many quarterbacks now, and a lot of quarterbacks from Alabama haven't lived up to the name that they made themselves at Bama, like Aj mccaren, and I think even to is living under his expectations. Yeah, I think Mac Jones walked into the perfect situation, though, with the Patriots, because they're so well coached, their defense is incredible and their run game is producing over a hundred and thirty yards of game or whatever it was, right, right. Yeah, yeah, he didn't. And then when he had to do a lot, we saw that he had to bring the team and score a bunch of touchdowns. He wasn't able to do that. Yeah, it was. He was unable to compete with Josh Allen in the playoff. The only reason they beat the bills the first time was because it was a snow bowl and they had to run every play. Right. But then, yeah, and you and you look at these other quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence, didn't have a great eight year. Played the whole year kind of was unnoticed. Right. They try to make him a big, big star, but it wasn't there. Obviously they lost a coach in urban Meyer. That was another huge story that happened. And now they're going to get Byron left. which do you think? Byron left, which will be able to bring some of that knowledge you learned from Tom Brady, all his experiences as a pro quarterback and help Trevor Lawrence be up, you know, a much better quarterback this year? I think Tom Brady kind of has that snowball effect where anyone that touches them kind of learns a finer way to play the game. So I think Byron will definitely be able to teach Trevor Lawrence some of the like Brady ISMs of football, whatever that is, you know, like just quarterback presence, lead leaderships, things like that. So I think Trevor Lawrence, even though it was a rough year, he has a huge ceiling or a high ceiling, which a lot of people can't say. You know, he didn't even reach anywhere close to what he could be. You had him ranked as the twenty five quarterback this year. Yeah, that's a combination of, you know, their record, the numbers he put up and just how he played in general. Right so, okay, we kind of covered some rookies. Who Do you think, you're the biggest bust was a quarterback that played, you know, not maybe one or two games, but played a lot of games. Who Do you think would be the biggest bus not that we're trying to be mean or anything, but it's just it is what it is. Let's see. I so Davis Mill started off horribly but he actually...

...picked it up towards the end of the years. So he would have been my answer if you asked me middle of the season, but I don't think I could say that now because he had some three hundred yard games and some pretty good games. I would say Trevor Lawrence, to be honest. Yeah, do you what about just all quarterbacks right? You know, for me I look at the guys playing in Cleveland. That has a lot of talent, has a you, two headed monster behind him. His lines pretty good, had a bunch of good had a great defense and just couldn't get it done. I feel like, not that he was the worst quarterback, but he was so underwhelming he didn't help his team at all. With Baker Mason, yeah, I would put him in like the Ryan Tanhill. I would even say tanheals better than Baker by a good amount, because Baker had if you look at any advanced rushing statistic, the browns lead that by a reasonable margin because their run game is so good. Nick Chubb is just amazing and then to have cream hunt behind him is just insane that they have that two headed monster, like he said. And then they have, you know, David and Joku and Austin Hooper, who are two people that have started in the NFL first several years with one of the best oh lines. And then you look at the receivers, Jarvis Landy, who Jarvis Landry, who is a you know, a possession receiver, but someone that you can trust every third down to get the ball to that he'll be open and he'll catch the ball. And you had Odell Beckham, which with another reason why you shouldn't like Baker because he, you know, put some blame on him. The fans put blame on o'dell. He couldn't get the ball to o'dell, o'dell Lea's and now he's in the NC championship with six catches of game and a touchdown. So yeah, I say about Baker Right. And you know there's other guys that you can look at, but when I look at it, maybe I put Carson winzonette boat too, because if you don't have Jonathan Taylor, like you mentioned earlier, that he's a probably should be candidate for MVP, but when he wasn't in there, what was Carson Wentz able to do? You know what I mean? Like that's how I feel, like I look at both them. You know, he didn't have a ton of turnovers. It just wasn't good enough to beat the team they need to beat, with us a great running day. Yeah, they're a team that has to be winning in the third and fourth quarter to win the game because, like we saw with the Jaguars, they're down fourteen or two scores, they got to throw the ball move it down the field. They can't do that with went to win right, to come back and win. Yeah, we I saw that. All right, one thing really quick. I'm gonna go through all the teams I played for and once you give me one snippet of what you thought, like a really quick one. We got a break coming up here in a couple minutes. But went you know, quick something you think about when I say their name. So first team, be Washington football team. Right, I don't know what their new name is going to be, but the Washington football team. What do you do you think about? When I say their name, I would say rebuild, find a quarterback and you can pete in the NFC. Ranna ceast, great, I love that. All right. So then next team. We moved to Detroit. Right, you were just little, you're young. We go to the lines. I love the lines, but I was only there one year. What do you think about when I talk about the lions again, I would say find a quarterback and build with the team that you have. They started showing a lot of promise in the ladder half of the year. Yeah, I love their teams. I love their coach. Got A lot of fire. Former player. He has a lot of former players coaches under the on there and I think they just they're they're just a little bit short, right. They got to find that gun to put them over the top. All right. So Gay. Yeah, so we go from the Lions to Denver, when Denver just got a new coach in Danuel Hackett. What do you think about? DENVER? Get Aaron Rodgers. All Right, I love it. All right, from Denver we go to the Bangles. I mean, what do you...

...think about when Cincinnati Bengals for so long, as they said, like since that was an eighty one or something, since they've been to a playoffs game? Yeah, thirty years, thirty, twenty years or something. Yeah, so what when I say the bank since in any bangles, what do you think of? I would say they're the new steelers of the AFC north. Wow, we're gonna be the team to be a love. That's a good prediction. They need to do it. As long as stealers hats and I think they got the guy at the helm that can that can happen to all right, Minnesota Vikings, this is a this, you know. It's got a new GM that lets their head coach go. They let their old GM go. They got a new guys. They're going to find a new coach and you know, I think of underwhelming, like they have the talent, but it's never yeah, what do you think of them now? I think the same thing. They should have been a playoff team this year and they they were underwhelming. Yeah, so then all of a sudden we travel from Minnesota or family down to Miami, and so what do you think about when we say Miami. That's a tough one, because they did. They went on that seven game winning streak. I would say establish a running offense with your defense and you're able to play like the Patriots and run the ball, play good defense and winning games. Right. Well, do you think that puts too in a good light because of his arm strength? Because that's a big play action, right. You got a great running game, you gotta throw ball down the field. Yeah, I know too is good on play action, but it's more so like rollouts and boots to the flat. So I don't know if they can. If they could use that side of two of them more, even though they use it a lot already than I think they they'd be more they'd be in every game. They'd be contender than the game they played. All Right, two more teams? Well, well, only go one because I went back to one team. But the rams beat the forty niners for once. Yeah, all right, and get back to the Super Bowl. All right, I agree. All right, then I went back to the Vikings. Everyone. All right, we're going to take quick break here. Thanks for listening. To huddle up with gusts. CHECK US out. A huddle up with guestscom where. If you listening your favorite podcast, you know we're on today with my son gunner. We've probably watched he's played a ton of football with the William Mary played football, then he started being a coach there and now he just does allot data analytics for for different teams. His favorite guy to watch as Lamar Jackson. Gunner. Why do you love Lamar so much? I first started loving Lamar because of how hated he was and I love I love that when everyone shoot the guy down and they don't believe in him and then he proves them wrong, because you look at Lamar Jackson, he's the youngest player to ever won a hisman, I think. And then he put up Jeff Ungodly numbers at Louisville, a team where a quarterback shouldn't be putting up those numbers. Six, seven touchdowns the game, beating ACC beating n SEC teams. And then he gets to the IT comes draft time and people are saying he should switch positions and play running back or play wide receiver and he said no, I'm not going to do that, I'm going to play quarterback and I'm going to win the MVP and I'm going to go you know, make the Ravens playoff contend. There's every year that I start what he's done and he's proved everyone wrong in my book. Yeah, I mean he's had a great career. You were showing me some of his runs the other day that he's had. I mean he's had some big throws. I think they're really lacking on receivers for him, but his his run game, when he runs the ball, it's just like like watching Barry Sanders right. He's going to make guys miss. He's so fast and so skilled. I think he's just such a dual threat quarterback that you know, we've seen him before and Randall Cunning Ham Steves, young Michael Vick, guys like that, but he's just I think he's just on a whole other level. I think a Lamar this year really tried to emphasize pushing...

...the ball down the field as well, which is, I think, the reason for some of his mistakes and interceptions as well, because I think he was like top five and yards per attempt out of all the quarterbacks and he it's hard to do that when you don't have an ex true x receiver, when you're number one target is your tight end right now. But they're their play action is insane with Lamar because he drops back twelve, twelve yards behind the line of scrimmage and if they rush for he's got four alleys, five alleys to run as well. Yes, it's a hard guy to defend and I think when that offense would just pole everyone in the box that and they try to do play action off of that, and this was not to his advantage. Yeah, I think. I think that they can honestly treat Lamar more like Mahom's, not saying that he is Mahom's but spread the offense out and let him improvise and make plays like that instead of restricting him to one read or one, one, one play that he can do. All right, gonna we went through a lot of stuff. Let's just talk about some of the teams that we haven't talked to and then we'll get to the playoffs. Chicago bears, you know, they're they had a bunch of quarterbacks justin fields there. They're putting a lot on him. Now they got rid of NAGGY and they're get a new coach in. I don't know if you can say his name or not, but you know it's hard to pronounce his name, but we're all I don't know what does sort with you lose eberfluse me, so coach her? Yeah, I don't know whatever first initially is. That's what I'd start calling if I was a player there. But tell me about the bears. What do you think? Do they have a chance next year to win that division, because I don't think Rogers will be in that division. I think they definitely do. It might take a couple years. If I were, you know, to look at the Vikings and the packers just teams in general, because I don't know if Justin fields got enough playtime this year. If you drop the guy first round, you know, play them and let him get the experience in my as my opinion. I don't know if he was hurt or if they just benched him in time games, but I don't think he played enough because he showed a lot of promise when he got going and you know he got his wheels rolling against the steelers. He look good the game after Betty look good, but he just didn't get enough time, in my opinion. But they'll get Khalil map Khalil Mac back and then I think their run game will be phenomenal next year with Montgomery and Justin fields back there. I feel like the bears, their big problem was just mental errors and mistakes. They always had a dualities, not like holding call when a guy's beating you running and is. It was just always terrible mental mistakes that should never happen in a football game. In the bears always seem to have them this year every game we want. Yeah, they did, especially that steelers game, which is I think it was a primetime game. Is a why I remember it so much. But you know, they really just beat themselves with penalties and rapping the passer and taunting stuff like that. Yeah, that's that's not good. I think they'll be better next year. All right, we got to want a team that you like. You and I both love watching this quarterback. We go to Arizona and I felt like two years in a row set like they were in such an inclined to beginning the seasons and then they just it's like they fall off a cliff at the end. Yeah, cliff King's very record is like he's like six and eight or for really negative the last six games of the year, and I don't know why they just fall off. Yeah, I mean, obviously you don't have your best for ever, the best receiver in the League. Maybe that hurts a little bit. Yeah, got a quarterback that can make play after play and it just seems like when I watch those games, I saw so much frustration, a lot of yea. Yeah, you know, they count with three outs. Are just so the moralizing for a quarterback that to...

...go back out there have another three and out. You're ready for your defense to make a stop and they do. You go back out another three and out. It just kind of kills the team chemistry and, you know, the motivation for the team, I think. Yeah, so I think. I don't think they're the biggest disappointment, though. I think the biggest disappointment for me this year where the cowboys. Yes, I agree. I just think they had the most talent and got the least out of it. They have a crazy amount of talent and I'd say they have a top ten running back, they have a top five receiving corps, they're supposed to have a top five quarterback, even top ten, and their defense was playing really good all year. You know, a lot of turnovers, a lot of points scored for them. And then they just lose weird games for no reason. Yeah, they got the defensive rookie of the year. How many interceptions of tripling digs have? Eleven? Eleven. I mean it's amazing. That doesn't happen. Yeah, ever, you know that's now amazing. Yeah, I think you're right. They have all the talent there. They had the thing, but they they they were missing something, and I think he was coaching. Yeah, I agree. I think it was coaching as well. All Right, one guy before we get to the playoffs. A guy that we know really well. You know, your sister graduated high school with them. But he's the starting linebacker for the Atlanta Falcons and Fuy a Lucan, he led gunner. We knew him when he was little and he's playing hoops of John Burrows and St Louis and he was skinny. He played for me when I was a head coach, and now he's like two hundred and forty five and he's lead the team in tackles and he's fast. HMM. He literally reminds me of Derek Brook when he played. I love that analogy. Like what like if, yeah, if you had to say like his strength, like you can name a bunch of them. But what do you think is number one strength is? I think he's just able to run sideline to sideline and, you know, willing to stick his nose in any type of tackle or scrum that there is. He doesn't care. He just he wants to make a play. He's got to make the play no matter what. Yeah, and I agree with that and I think that he's just, you know, I remember what he went to Yale five years at Yale came out and you know, he didn't go to the combine, but all his numbers were top five in any linebacker that was drafted that year. Yeah, he's just been improven year after year after years. So, Foy, a Kudos to you, man, what a great year and I hope you get paid, my man. Yeah, it helps when you have a middle linebacker that's freaky athletic and then also crazy smart. You know right. Yeah, I would say he's crazy smart, deathly. Yeah, I got it all right. We had, you know, we had some incredible playoffs. I was telling Ben, WHO's helping US produce a show here, that if you just watch the last two minutes in overtime with the chiefs bills game is probably the best game you've seen all year. Yeah, it was one of the best games I've ever seen in my life. I think. I mean to quarterbacks going head to head making the throws. You know, people think it's easy to make those throws and put the ball because no, you know, tyree killed the end of the game. He ran outside and duked the guy and came inside and it was right there. But Patrick Mahomes can put the ball any where you want. Yeah, I say, you know Josh Allen with what he did in that game. It was absolutely crazy. Well, it's awesome to see Josh Owen's progression from his rookie year to now, because some of the deep throws, like that post to Gabriel Davis, is rookie year. He would have thrown it five yards over his head. Yeah, and now he's dropping it right in the bucket, right in his chest. It's so awesome to see. Yeah, so we saw underdog after underdog this this playoffs this year, and now we finally come to championship weekend and we got all right, we're going to go two teams here. We Got San Francisco, the Rams, who you picking? I shouldn't, but I'm going to go...

...ram. All right, that's a tough one because because you know, the rams haven't beat the niners. And how many games? I think six or seven at this point, with mcvay verse, she and a hand. So you're saying if mcveay beats thes that's like his mountain top and he gets the Super Bowl, are you picking them to go all the way? Yeah, I'm picking them to go the Super Bowl. I think the odds of the forty niners winning seven or eight times in a row is just not good. So that's one reason. And then I also think the rams are just a better team. I mean even though they keep losing, there just more there, well rounded than theers are. I don't know, forty. Forty niners have something that you have, but we you see in some teams they just have this grit. You know, they look like hurt but they always battle. I mean any team that holds Aaron Rodgers to ten points at home, there's something really good about them. They are a team that they're like never out of it, no matter what it's like. Third and nineteen you're like, okay, yeah, we got them in third nineteen, and then then kit will catch the ball down the team for twenty yards and there are still and then they're moving to the ball on the field again. Yeah, so that's just like it's crazy how how they omberate. They come through when they when they need to. But I'M gonna go. I'M gonna go with my man, west Welker, who's the receivers coach at forty niners. I'm going to say they go down there and they they take care of business. So you and I will have to watch. Well, have a good one on that one. Are we go to the chiefs to go bill our chiefs and and the bengals. You know, Joe Barrow came out this week and he said that. I think everybody misconstrued what he said. He said, you know, I've been in a lot allowed games in college and and sometimes they you know, in the NFL they're allowed to. So it's I don't think he was saying that. The you know, if you go to Arrowhead it's not loud. I think he was saying, like, I've been in loud places. But yeah, he's yeah, you know, and they missconstrued all that. But he is going to arrowhead, it is loud. I've been there. I've played there, but I think this is going to be something that he hadn't seen before. But how do you think he's going to do and do you think he's going to be able to pull out a victory? I think he'll be. I think it's first quarter will be slow, but I think he'll pick it up and the second quarter, a third quarter, fourth quarter and end up having a pretty decent game, especially for a guy who's at this first AFC championship. I think I'll play pretty good. Do you think he's going to pull it out? I don't think so. I predicted the first when they had against the chiefs in the regular season, which with a good upset, but I don't think that they beat him twice this year. Yeah, so you got the chiefs playing the rams. I'm going to take the forty nine is playing the bangles, just because I want to go against you. But you know, tell us you predicted this. Tell us what you predicted way back before the season started, before the seven even even started, I predicted the rams would when the NFC so and then it would be a rams chief super bowl. So you're never right on Soo. Who's WHO's winning it all? Buddy, chief chiefs are winning the Super Bowl, thirty one to twenty. Oh, that means our Patrick Mahomes card is going to go up. That we have. Yeah, Yep, all right, man, what a talk, gunner. Thanks for talking football with me. Hey, everyone, that was our football show. Went Fast, you know, we did an hour. We probably could talk five hours in a row on this. Gunner is so knowledgeable. Maybe next time we'll come out with our Sun Gabe and he can kind of bear his frustrations to us, because he does. He isn't one who gets frustrated anything, gunner. Yeah, he is all right. Thanks for listening to another episode of Hoddle up with guests. I hope you enjoyed it. Go to hoddle up with Gustscom put your comments in. If you'd like to hear any more this, please let us know. You can go to Helldo up with guestscom check me out, or listen to US wherever you listen to your favorite podcast, and we'd love to hear from you. Our fans are wonderful. We love the great game of football. We think it teaches us so many lessons and you know, I am lucky. I got to play it and I get to share with my sons and my whole family. So I hope you enjoy it too.

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