Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

Episode 164 · 1 week ago

Huddle Up With Gus Dennis Mallin

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New Jersey born and raised actor Dennis Mallen talks about his latest release “Grey People” and how he got started in the business from a 25-year-old Technical Executive to later discovering his acting career as Lenny in the off-Broadway production “Of Mice and Men”! He later appeared in an China Airlines ad plus other appearances in “Killer Miller”, “Daddy We’re Back”, “The Italians”, “The Irishman” , etc. and named Best Actor at the EEIMA (Eastern European International Movie Address) awards! Check out the amazing Dennis Mallen on all streaming platforms at www.imdb.com/name/nm9990253/ ! #dennismallen #ofmiceandmen #lenny #killermiller #mallen #actor #newjersey #newark #kearny #offbroadway #greypeople #ofmiceandmen #killermiller #theirishman #EEIMA #amazon #audible #iheartradio #spreaker #spotify #itunes #googleplay #applemusic #youtube #anchorfm #mikewagner #themikewagnershow #mikewagnerdennismallen #themikewagnershowdennismallen

Hang out with. Am gonna go quarterback up old K sports fans from a decked out and plush sixteen forty one digital studios. It's kickoff time, so snap your two scraps on to huddle up with us. Wow, what an intro. I don't think I've heard that one since I we made that a while ago, but usually he usually everyone. We're live here, gusts fraud here on huddle up with gust thanks for joining me. Go to huddle up with gustscom check me out, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast, you can listen to this show and all of our other shows that we've put out there. We're going to get right into it. So joining me today is another great guest, like all the other wonderful guests we've had on our show, Dennis Mailan. You may know him from some recent movies, like the Irishman. You know, I was kind of looking at Dennis, I was kind of looking at your bio. Know you did of mice and men. Yeah, and my kids always call me Lenny and I knew that you played lenny. So I said, Oh, there's our connection. We're both lenny. That that's that's crazy. Man for it's last semes. Malon, by the way, you know my okay, you know guys not letting man. They spelled my name wrong in my Pro Bowl Jersey. So yeah, I know how you feel. I probably you know. You know it is. It is what it is. I went through high school, Grammar School, College, Denise Mullen, Denise Melon. It says I'm Denn Smellon Junior, my poor father. You know, we respect the man's Av it's just it's crazy stuff. But thanks for having me on today, Guss. I really, I really appreciate it. I've watched it it. As I said earlier, I'm an NFC East Guy, growing up and carning New Jersey, kind of shadow of giant stadium, and it's just, you know, love watching us, so glad to be on today. Thank you. Were you the guy at that stadium that was always opening that end zone door? I can't. I can't confirm or deny that guys like rumor has it, we're has it was a member of my family. I can't confirm her God that though. Yeah, it depends on what the points were that game. Right again, you know that's right here. Rumor has I'll tell you my brother laws. Last name is Julius. Okay, he was a bookie, so for like fifteen years I wasn't allowed to talk to him. Geez, now with the NFL I could talk to them all I want because betting is cool. Betty is cool. Betty is she? You can do whatever you want now. Yeah, so I get you. So you grew up in Karney, you were born in Newark. Yeah, Your Jersey Guy. Yes, sir. Yeah, so when you were growing up and go back to when you can remember the most. But what made you follow up with sports? Because I know you played soccer and you play with some crazy people when you're in high school. But what was that moment that you remember where you fell in love with sports? Like you said, you're an nfce'St Guy. Sure, sure, you know my my father, Dennis senior them. He was don't just just a big giants fan, a big giants fan, a big Fan of sports. I remember throwing the baseball around my dad. I remember he was coaching soccer back in the day. He had me on ice skates at five years old and I just I fell in love with the competition. I fell in love at the physicality of it. I fell in love with just every aspect. I fell in love with watching the giants and the cowboys on a Sunday and the rivalries in the East and just arrivalries throughout the NFL. I remember going to games with him. I remember walking around them when he had a giant Jersey on and people come up to him and I'm six one. Dad was one, six too, but just look like a linebacker right, just a wide guy, just a big bill guy, and people look at him, said you played for the giants. It's like no, I yes, you did, yes, you did, and it's just it's just funny. It's it gets so deep and so ingrained in you from watching it and filling the love and the passion from your family and getting out there and competing. You know the deal. It's in your DNA from day one. Really Yeah, my dad was a middle guy, forty two years in the the factories here in Pennsylvania and is the same thing. You know. He come home, we play catch, we throw baseball, football, didn't matter. We were always doing some. He never played basketball with me and he must have been any good at basketball, but we had a UH courtner a little town that we were good at, but it was the same thing and I kind of feel the same way, like it wasn't wonder. I mean I love the steelers, growing up in the SOR Pittsburgh, right, sure, Terry Bradshaw's why I have twelve. So, Oh my God, I get what you're saying. Is like it's just that going out and playing and then being able to watch it and like, as a kid, you just you just have that kind of Oh this is awesome, kind of fake of the historical stuff we went through in one thousand nine hundred and eighty, the miracle on ice, right when the Olympics were pure and there were college...

...kids playing against the Russian army. I mean you know that? The the mets in eighty six, Mukie Wilson, right, a dribbler down first base. What's a guy from Boston, poor guy. Yeah, dribbler tripped all. Yeah, you mean Fuck No, Bill Buckner. Yeah, I mean just a history that we have alone. Now I'm a giants fan. I'm a New York Ranger Phanom of New York mets fan. So I've got pain, I've got tolerance. Right, New York Rangers, I mean who? I'm a Penguin Fan. Oh, we should have beat you guys. You know, it's the hockey gods bro and I can't, you know, for such big markets. How I take nothing away from Tampa. I live and I live in Florida. Right now. Vasileski stands on his head stand coast. Great Team, great players. If they can three peet, oh my gosh, that's amazing. But it's the bounce of the PUCK and the New York Rangers one of the biggest markets in all of sports. You know they want it. What, thirty years ago? Yeah, what is going on? Less than thirty years ago, but once in my lifetime. Come on, guys. So you know, it is what it is. Near Science. Thank God. You're got a jets fan, then Huh, thank God you're not a jets fan, then that's a whole nother show. That's a whole nother story. The giants I'm fine with every eight years, every eight to ten years, picking up in your one party. I'm patient. That way. The mets. The mets around fire. So you know, you got to bounce on all out. You know, I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but just from a fan perspective, it's it's it's interesting coming from such a big market. I never knew college sports was so passionate. College football, it's all. It came to Florida, right, you know, differ, totally different. Right, totally different. I mean not you know, I'm a rutgers guy. You've got, you know, Penn state right there, you got a lot of stuff going on. But you down here, you got Miami, you got the seminoles, you got the gators and you know, my apologies for excluding a few teams, but they're all competitive. Yeah, people are passionate about what they do, what they're doing down here. So it's crazy. And it is crazy because then you go to the pro sports and it's a little different in Florida, right. I mean I played for the dolphins, so you know, we would get like we play the Patriots in Miami and I was like all patriots fans in the stands, you know what I'm mean? Like it kind of insane that way. But then like if you go to a like you said, Oh, Florida, Florida state game, the hurricanes, Yep, packed, like those fans are insane. Sure, sure, you know, but it doesn't correlate over to the pro sports. But in New York it's kind of just opposite. Yeah, yeah, you know it. I don't know it. It is what it is. I mean I didn't never really got into college football, maybe because rutgers really never did much. Now she had knows. Well, you're surrounded by Ivy. He's like no fense to Ryan Fitzpatrick and all the Ivy, but you know nobody's watching them on saying no. And but here's the thing. Why we in the Big Ten? where? Where the where? The low level of the big ten? Okay, the money aspect, the contracts, I get it. But all the New Jersey talent goes to pen steak, goes to Ohio, goes to Michigan. I understand it. If my kids were of that caliber to I'd want to get the biggest bang for the buck. And now, I mean I haven't kept track of Ledge Station College kids able to get paid or get some sort of royalties. It's crazy. You know, it is what it is. So well, I had this conversation with somebody today. You know, think back to all the incredible players that came out of college and like what they missed on right, like they they were great in college, didn't have an incredible pro career like the kid that left Pitt this year. The receiver went to USC got three million dollars. You know what I mean? Yeah, he was a Bulitt in the cup winner, but it's just like I think back to like, okay, what would Marino have gotten? A pit? You know, it's just you think back to some of these players and it yeah, I can saying, but what's going but if they're open it up, I said go get it. Got As much you can. Hey, I'm a capitalist like the next guy. You know, if they're going to offer to me, you know I'm an actor. You're going to throw what at me to go do whatever. I do whatever, you know. So, yeah, I know, it is what it is. Man. So when you were coming up in the high school and everything, you know your big sports fan. What did you play? What were the sports that you played? Sure, sure, I played a lot of ice hockey, kind of, you know, high school kind of wreck ice hockey. Forward. I was on the rowing team. Where were you? Lare forward, what were you I played? I played center and it played left forward. Yeah, because I'm I was always six one. I'm abut on hundred nine, hundred and ninety five now, but back in the day, man I was a hundred forty pounds, hundred forty five pounds, soaking wet flat top. You know...

...now I'm losing it, but you know, I don't agree. It was just so much fun. And then you know what the boys on the street with which where I grew up, we played every sport. We played every sport. It's interesting. Go back to soccer. Carnie, New Jersey. It's a hometown at Tony meal. It's a hometown of John Harks us, a soccer players. Yeah, I believe. I believe John is in England. I know his son is a big player, I think from Manchester R I kind of lost track. My apologies if I'm screwing up the team, but Tony is a big commentator for a cup soccer hmm, and when I lived in Toms over, New Jersey, I'd run into him every now and again kind of catch up on them and stuff like that. But he's had a a storied career on the soccer side, both of them. And then on on the road side. I rode with with two Olympic, Olympic Olympic rowers. Jeff clapacky big guy. He was actually a band dude. He came out for the team senior year is about six to just not long and Lanky. Yeah, just just a big hulking guy. got into the Varsity Boat, okay, whatever they did that year, and then he goes on the rutgers and then he goes on to US Rowing Association. Well, and Jennifer, Jennifer Dory, kind of came out as a freshman and went right through the Olympic program. So, you know, Middle Class CARNIE, New Jersey back in the days, kind of Scotch, Irish, Hispanic type town and just real type town. I know if there's something in the end, the water, little water, depending on how you say. Yeah, but we kicked out a lot of good athletes. A lot of good athletes well in the other thing too, is that you had multiple kind of sports right, like when I grew up in my little town outside of Pittsburgh, we had football, basketball, baseball. You soccer, not really, you know what I mean? Sure, nobody even knew what Lacrosse was. Now nobody knew that, like, but that's huge and like young island and New York and New Jersey's yeah, you mean they've been playing it forever. So growing up you had a ton of sports that you could play. You miss that at all, like being able to just go out every day play something and you know it's unfortunately it's like it's like generational. You know, my my son Dennis the third. We keep it simple, and my family, Dennis, sens and Dennis, and when my mother yells we all jump right, we'll wait. She didn't have a there's not a senior, a junior and a a trey. I'm junior. Yeah, you, I'm too. I'M D to my son's D three. But we're star wars fans too, so that's a whole nother but I am too, so I love it. I like that. So but yeah, it's it's interesting how this generation good batter and different. Now I coached my son in baseball. I coached him from tea ball and I don't know where he got it from. He was really good in Tomserva, New Jersey, always puts out some some great players. Right. He did that and we got him into into martial arts. So did want to have anything to do with ice hockey. HAD THEM ON ICE same age as I was back in the day. Funny Dennis Senior bought my son like five hundred dollar skates and I had to bower turbos like all the way through, like the little plastic stuff. It's just it's interesting. But he picked up on baseball pretty simple, pretty easy, and he even wrestled. I had my son wrestling, so it's just fun. But the video games, you see, I'm add now as an adult. Back in the day I'm not going to tell my father, hey, I can't focus right slapping the back of the head. Get back at it. Right now it's totally different. So instead of doing the video games and stuff like that, even today I can't sit still. I love what I did and my fiance and I we run a lot, either swim, work out, bike, always on the move, which at our age, you know, kind of keeps this going, kind of keeps us in shape. So so if you want to take in medication for it, Scotch, Scotch. It's not a medication. I mean you know we were going we were little kids. Our parents would say, oh, he's crying again, into the rubbed on your gums. Right, exactly. AARANS did exactly. I was raised with chivas regal. That's what I was raised with and then I went to college and learned about single mallets and kind of played it from there. Oh my God, yeah, I'm going to say what I was raised on, right. Yeah, Mickey's big mouth crazy. Yeah. So so you go through high school. What was your were you mainly as you got like as a senior? Were you just kind of soccer only, or do you still every sport now? I jumped out of soccer or early on. I actually I was playing against Tony Meolda and I think it was like seventh or eighth grade,...

...and I was still like four foot, maybe five foot something. It's Tony Two was six foot whatever, and I remember we had a guest coach and the coaches yelling at me and Scottish, Click as heels, click as heels. I couldn't catch up with them. Yeah, I couldn't keep up with them and I'm looking at it saying, okay, I'm having fun, but now the competition, the level of play is totally beyond me. I'm not going to take this to the next level because my high school team, we were state champs like four years running. Wow, just just the level of play, Tony John, those boys, I just I knew it was time to just hang it up and get out of that aspect of it and just focus on ice hockey. When I went, when I got the high school, rowing was big and we had it really good rowing team. We had we had national champions at thinking eighty five with with a of our city for and that's a that's a big sport. We went to Philadelphia like every weekend on the schoolol that's be yeah, there, that right. My daughter went to have aford and then pain. So I was always drive by that. But like, yeah, yeah, like rowing, rowing was not a pit. They weren't rowing on the alleghany river, right, because by time you finished, like you take a couple strokesure to the next damn, there's nowhere to go. Well, we wrote are the Pacaic River, which at one time was ranked as the worst polluted river in the world. Just don't fall out of the boat, right. We used to jump in anyway, but that's, you know, crazy kids. But it was it was such a great river. It would kind of winder around, but we can go out for miles and miles and miles and just go out for hours. But we would literally go to boathouse row, go to the School River with Mon senior, Bonn or temple, some of the Big Ivy's down there, Ivy High School, St Joe's Prap. Yeah, and here we are middle class, kind of Blue Blue Collar, I'll sing, industrial type kids and we kick some butt and we compete. You know, they'd have all the million dollar equipment and we've got t shirts as our uniforms and went down there making things happen. So yeah, now that's fun. So so you go through high school, you know you're looking for your next step in life, right, which is college from most of us. What was that next step? Because on all of a sudden, like for me, all the other sports are played, we're done. I was just football and going to class. Right. So there's a do you take a different step? So what was that step for you? Well, right out of high school I went to what's colinary school? They was going to be it's going to be a big chef. I was going to own a restaurant. I love that. Seventeen years old, bridead bushytailed I quickly. I Dean's list, first time in my life on the Dean's list. I was a straight see student from birth. Now I'm in college, I'm on the Dean's list. I'm folks right. Yeah, then I realized it's a lot of nights and weekends. Yeah, and I realized it's tough to have a life. Then I realized I worked with a lot of quality people. I worked at the rainbown room. I was up there for the grand opening. Gerard Pango, Andre Rena, Kevin o'malley, Paul Robinson, quality people. WHO's divorced two, three times? Yeah, who's got a little bit of a narcotics problem? And and I'm thinking to myself, these guys are thirty, they look like they're sixty. They they're having a tough life. I want to go back to school. got kind of got out of it, kind of started a catering business. My Mother's always been the entrepreneur having catering business. Went Back to school, went to rutgers, got that done and then went to technology school. Afterwards. I was a twenty five year old technology executive. I wanted to being a CEO of Acom back in the raw rod days in Manhattan. Yeah, just just having fun. This hope like tech. What kind of tech were you doing? Sure I was. I was really doing everything. I had a I had a certain niche with IBM Lotus back okay, yeah, when I came into Mycom we were an Internet service provider. We were one of the first DSL providers in Manhattan and I was really I was employee number three. I was the gray hair of the firm at twenty twenty seven me, I was a great hair. Well, how did you get in this? How do you meet these people? You know what it's like. All you do your network, right. Yeah, you shake hands, you kiss babies, you build relationships and I remember I was working at this one firm. I was a director and I'd answer, I pick up the phone and it's this one guy. It's a founder of this farm and we just built a relationship. We had we had lunch at one time. He made me an offer. I came in as a VP Biz Dev, vp of sales, and in six months I'm running the running the entire show. So it was...

...it was a fun time back in the day. Now I started off my acting career while I was running this company, because what I found real quick gust if you put systems in place and if you hire the right people, put the right people in the right place. Yeah, life is awesome. Now I work the company. Twenty and eighty seven, right, I lived it I breathe, that I was available, you know, all day, all night, weekends, everything else. But it had so much free time that I was able to kind of segue and kind of start playing with different things and building a little lifestyle. So was that like the whole acting bug? Was that in your family somewhere, or is it just so? You said I want to try this. You know, my mother used to perform. My mother was a singer. She's saying Carnegie Hall Right now. She never pushed any of us to do anything like that. You know, I've tried about a dozen instruments. I can't sing to save my life. If I start saying man, just take me out, because take me out. My brother and sisters washing and football team now, then my brother and sister the same thing. So a good friend of mine, I'm a freemason and a good friend of mine, Jim Demonic, that's his name. Demonic, used to teach it the American Academy Dramatic Arts and Scienceism Manhattan and would get together every Friday for an adult beverage and a cigar and I show up in a three piece suits, I'm coming from work and he's like, look at this Katie just came from central casting. What a goodlooking kid. I'm like, yeah, all right, Jim he haes man, you got to do this, you got to do that. After browbeating me for a few months, I'm like, all right, what do I need to do? Need to get a head shot. The Hell's a headshot? Get a picture of real I call. He threw me in number. I got the headshot. Jim, what's next? He walked me through every aspect of how to get my career started. Okay, awesome. So when I did of my sin men, right, you so I our nickname is Lannie. Right, I'll see you six months letted. So I jumped into that. It's to it. It's a role that Makovich, the Great John Macovich, did. I ain't no Makovich. Okay, I jumped into it. Gus, I'm driving home from Manhattan crying. I'm just straught, I'm depressed, I'm stuttering, I'm stammering. I got to go to work the next day and I'm a mess. I call up Jim. I'm like, Jim, what the Hell's going on? He goes, what do you mean? I go, I can't do this anymore. I go I'm going to finish. I'm going to quit. He goes for obviously your method actor, Jim. I've no idea what that means, man, but this sucks. I'm out. So I quit. For about two weeks, I get a call for China Airlines commercial and it was a block away from my owns. All right, all right, I'm going to show up. I show up to the commercial. Now I'm six one and all the other guys that were auditioning were vertically challenged. All right, five hundred and fifty two, and then they're a little follically challenged. So I'm like, what am I doing here? I walk and I sit down. Pat Sweeney was the cash and director, and she goes, guys, just relax, just talk to me. She goes, you guys are technology executives. You jump, just help the company from China relocate to the states. Can because I'm looking at it, I literally did that six months prior, right, six months prior. So now I'm thinking, candid camera, what the Heck's going on here? What's the joke? So I killed you know, when you crush it, you walk out, man, you're floating. I crushed it. So I'm floating back to my office. And I had some fire to put out of something going on. Totally forgot about it. Two days later I get a call up. Mr Mallon, that's my father. Just call me Dennis. What are you? What's up right? We want to book you for this commercial. We're going to pay you X. WHO's your agent? And I'm like, I don't have an agent. I don't know if that's a good wage. Can I call you back? Sure, I call my buddy Jim Dennis. Call this guy. He gives me a top agent in New York. The agent calls me back. He goes, what do they offer you? GAUSE, not don't or a kid. We're going to get you double. And I'm thinking, what's a great Guss? What is going on here? Gus? I'm getting swept up in it and I've been out a run ever since. Man, it's been twenty six years and I'm having fun. I'm busy. You see my IMDB. You see my stuff. I'm sure I like Rolls Man. I like rolls that are broken. I like the Lenny type role because now I know how to control myself as a method actor. I mean yeah, think about method acting, right, Philip Seymour Hoffman resting. Yeah, he's Heath Ledger, rest in peace, Robin Williams, rest in peace, Alpuccino. Now my vice is working out. So when I come home at two in the morning, stress from a roll, I'll go swim or I'll go...

...hit the weights, or I'll go punch something, a run around the book. Yeah, that's how I kind of get it out of you out, but it's it's tough, it's tough stuff, but it's so fulfilling, it's so much fun. How do you you know? Because they always taught us when you play sports, right, you got to be somebody else when you walk into that white line between the white lines, right, yeah, you're not the same guy, you're not the same nice guy or whatever. And and so how as a method actor, sure would that be kind of the same, because it's like, okay, now I gotta Change, I got to be so different that I'm not normally and is that pretty hard to get used to? You know, I can't. I'm not going to speak for everyone, okay, but I played the sports. I know getting in the zone. Yeah, okay, you're in, you're in, you're in a locker room, you're getting in the zone with with with the guys. You're getting in the zone. It's the same thing. It's similar. Okay, when I do character development I've got a bunch of scripts. You see my board. I got a bunch of projects coming up. When I do character development, I do the WHO, what, where and why. I do my intentions. I get so deep into it. Prior to coming on your show, I did a monolog and it was a father son monolog that was really dark, really deep. Okay, yeah, so I've learned something from a gentleman by the name of at might let back in the day, the rats reticular activation system. How do you get here? And get here? Okay, you got to see it. You got to see it. You got it embody. You gotta know you're a quarterback. You close your eyes, you go through the place. Yeah, right, you know your playbook inside out. They can wake up tune or two clock in the morning that you know flat. It's the same thing acting. I'm not worried about the lines. I'm worried about delivering the character and being the best and embodying that character. So I'm able to get into the flow, just like getting pumped up to go out there in a great iron and go throw down. Yeah, so, so when you go, you know they have film. They have film on You, obviously, just like they have film on us. But I got to go work out for somebody. You gotta go walk in and you got to be this character that they see, that they wrote about, right, and where they're going to do the movie about. Yes, when you take that role and you put it how you want it is. That kind of how it goes. When you walk in for another condition, it's a collaboration. Well, when you walk in for an audition, you've got thirty seconds to just impress the best you can. You really do. They Huh, thirty seconds like it's a long first impression. First impression because look, my age range is thirty five to fifty five. Yeah, thanks, full one, Brown here, Brown I. I'm not an anomaly. There's ten million of me out there. Okay, how can I come in and wow you quickly? You either seen my work and the stuff I've done, because there's a lot of stuff out there, or I've got to hit you quick. I got to make an impression real quick. Yeah, you know, thirty seconds, a minute, two minutes, right, I've got to make an impression real quick. So I got to hit you in the head, I got to hit you in the heart, you know, to show you I've got range. Okay, now, it's like anything else. From an actor's perspective and from a director's perspective, I'd rather go big because you, being my director, Gust Yeah, always pull me down. Yeah, it's tough for you to get me to rise up, but you can always pull me back. Right, you got it, you know. Yeah, I know what you mean. You know. So that's kind of I'd rather go big or go home. I'm going to show you something that's big, that's either in your face, what gritty, whatever you need, and then I'm going to allow you, as a director, to collaborate and you're going to pull me back or whatever you need me to do. And that's where it's a matter of building trust. You Trust your offensive coordinator, you trust your staff, you trust everybody you're at you. Why? Because you have to. You Trust your lineman. You Trust you, your blind side Lineman. Why? Because you don't know Lawrence Taylor's coming around. I'm dating myself much during him and right, right, you're gonna crush you. You got to trust to people you surround yourself where so now how do you give that advice to people going in for regular interviews? That kind of the same thing. You know, like I coach. I try to coach a few actors every three six months. The best thing I can do is lead by example. Yeah, and kind of show them what I'm doing, because, you know, I don't want to be that teacher. I'm going to be that working actor that could help and tweak and stuff like that. A lot of people, you know this, teachers. And No, I'm not looking to insult teachers. Teach, doers do yeah, okay, I want it.

I want to do and have people learned by my example. That makes sense at all? Yeah, I guess I completely get it. I mean, okay, that's that. Everybody has a different way to learn. Yeah, and to understand something. Like I was not a book guy. The teacher could write everything up on the board. Leader. No, like, but if you went and showed me like science experiments and the yeah, like member cutting the frog, opening all that, like I love that stuff. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you put him down and do all that kind. So I get I get what you mean. I get what you mean. That's Gony. So you've had a ton of roles, is there? What was the one that you were most excited about? Like, I mean I played for seven teams. Yeah, all of them, but there's just some that you go to and you're like, I'm gonna go play with Randy Moss. That's pretty cool. Well, you know, it's kind of I gave the answer and outs of apologize up front. When people ask Tom Brady what the best super bowl win is, he said, he said they're all very special, they're all very unique. Every role that I've had, and it's not a cop out it, it's a true answer. You know, I enjoy working with pechina. You know, I've been able to work with him three times. My first everything was devil's advocate. Yeah, I love that movie. Okay, Taylor had a little bit. Yeah, Taylor Hackford, director, big burly Viking guy he was. He was now, I don't know if he still lives. To Helen Mirren, they don't call me anymore. So, be that as it may, Puccino, Keanu Reeves, Craig ten Nelson, now here. I am. I'm an extra. It's my first SAG feature. Yeah, and I come in. I'm bright, AD bushy tail. The second a D second assistant director pulls me out of a crowd and literally sits me in the New York City courtroom, because you remember that big scene. Yeah, okay, you know what I'm talking about. It's me. Pucino is right behind me, Keanu reeves is in front of me, Craig t Nelson is right next to me, the Craig Teen. I'm six one. Craik t Nelson's tall. Mr Puchino five foot nothing. Five right. Five sticks and Keyanos about my about my height. So we're sitting there and I've always said to myself, and I learned this early on, you need an intention. You're not going to sit there STOIC. You need an attention. Now this is the biggest trial not only of the movie but of New York City history. So I've got to be enthralled by H two other guys sitting next to me. Taylor hack could goes action and then he goes cut you, you out, and I'm looking at like, Oh, what did I do? He goes no, no, you're fine. Now here's my first experience. Right, I'm getting yelled at. It's not me, these two people that's sat there and didn't do things. I look over my shoulder. There's Mr Pucchino. He goes, don't worry, kid, you're fine. Yeah, and I'm thinking, Canto Reeves turns around, he's looking at me, Craig Tin Alison, and I'm like, what's has happened? You know what? What? What was the difference? I had an attention. It's a court room scene. I'm looking around them, HMM HMM. I'm looking like I'm interested. Yeah, APP only these two guys were sitting there STOIC, with no animation, with no life to them whatever. But that was a great that was such a great learning experience, and you know that's my first. Now here's the scene, and you know the scene if you've seen the movie, you've seen my ugly bug dozens of times. When we're coming out of the court room scene. I come at the back door, I turn, I'm mugging the camera, I'm doing what you taught not to do. I'm walking straight into the camera. Ten twelve seconds and I'm thinking I'm going to get cut. I'm in the movie walking straight into the camera and here comes piano, Mr Gino, Craig Tin, Knowlson, busting right in front of me. It is hysterical. It is is sterical, but I think that, you know, probably everything is so scripted that when they get somebody that is offscript a little bit, they probably the director probably loves it like the maybe not all the time, but like you know what I mean that. I'm just kind of guessing on that. But well, a lot of times, you know, time is money, okay. So when you got big features, you've got to move things along. You got to move things along pretty quick. So everything is really is pretty coreygraphed, pretty coordinated. I was in Godzilla, similar situation. I'm down in Wall Street, which one God Zella, Matthew Broadwick, I know, yeah, you know, down by Wall Street. Yeah, and I got picked out of the crowd. Now I'm standing in next to the principles. Now I created my intention because, you know,...

...the guy says stand there, okay, and I'm thinking, okay, who am I? Who Am I? What am I doing? What am I all about? I'm thinking, you know what, I'm a New York City councilman. I'm a good I'm a good councilman. What a good councilman do? We waved to Wurk instatuents. I'm blowing kisses, I'm waving, I'm laugh at the mayor's dumb jokes. Yeah, okay, the director kept me in and he kept me in because I was showing him something. Now, I was in scripted. I shouldn't have been there, but gus, I showed him something and he kept me in. So the principle that the a team comes in, the principal actors come in and they keep me right there and they gave me such an angle to work I was able to do my thing. And again you see me in this feature film and here I am. What am I now? Four or five months into it? And here I am on too big features that you see me. So it's just, you know, great, Huh. You should like been me from a tech guys to saying, let me go try this, like you know, I got a buddies tell me go do this, I go do it. I hated it, I'm going to cry. Then all of a sudden I get an airline commercial and then it's like boom them out. So when did you make the separation from the business world? You See, you know, truth be told, I'm an entrepreneur. I'm an entrepreneur. So I always kept and I'm organized enough, Guss where I can keep all the balls in the air. Yeah, so I did technically have adhd. That's why I did technology as long as I can because, let's face it, you're on set, you got one of these with you and a laptop, you can do anything right, and that's what I did. As I'm on set, I'm conducting business, I'm doing what I have to do. I still have another form of revenue. I've got, you know, different forms, different residual income coming in while I'm doing this. But I've got to tell you, over the last I guess three, four, going on five years, this has been my soul focus. This is all I do and when I coach newer actors, I tell him, look, it's show business, not show friends. Okay, you've got a manage this like like you're you're running a widget company. What's a widget? It doesn't matter. This is your business. This is gust ink, this is Dennis Ink. Yeah, so I look to push the ball forward every day. You know, being on your show, this is huge. You know, doing auditions, emailing, building a network of people. It's just like I did in my technology days, Gus, building a network, building relationships, because people don't care what you know until to know how much you care. Right, right. I learned that stuff early on, baptized by fire at young age. I've kept that same work ethic and the same relationships throughout my entire life. So now I'm brought out to produce movies and I'm able to reach out to people that I know, I trust and I love to come in it, be part of the crew, be the director and, of course, you know, act with me. So you know I always joke around. What advice you give to new actors? I tell them to run run away quick because you need to get used to it, the word no and Owen rejection, which you know I've got thick skin. You got thick skin the next generation. I'm not going to give you a participation trophy. You gotta get used to saying hey, kid, you suck, you should quit and keep moving on. That's tough. Yeah, stuff that is so tough for so many kids nowadays. Right, because I saw something the other day that it's like. It was about Michael Jordan's mom. You know, when he was in high school, and I think he was in ninth grade or some didn't make the team. You know, there were bunch of guys that made the team. He didn't make it and it was like the thing on the bottom was she didn't go to the principle, she didn't go to the coach, she didn't like go complain about the Michael did like the team. She went to him and said, if you want to make the team, you're but better be in the gym every day working harder and harder. Right, and that's the you know, and that's the story. That's kind of like what life is. Is like you nobody's given you anything. I don't care if my dad went and complained. I mean my dad get kicked out of every gym we've ever been in because he yelled at everybody. Right, but it was also the work ethic he gave me. Yeah, say that no matter what, through pain, through injury, through everything, you just keep doing what you love to do. Sure, and you know, those are big lessons that it's hard to teach people. You know, my unfortunate that I have great, great management team. You Know Natalie Perry, one of my managers. Yeah, definitely up and coming. I mean she's got so much going out.

I think I have a lot of energy. She gave me a run for my money and I'm glad we don't go for the same roles. Right, I love her dearly. She basically says I'm one of the hardest working actors that she knows, and she's a hard working actor. And you know, maybe it comes from the stress I put on myself. Maybe it comes from the goals I'd have for myself. You See, nobody teaches goals in high school, Grammar School, College, Right. Yeah, I've been fortuned not to have mentors and read the right books and Straw myself with the right people through various aspects of my life. So you've got to have goals that scare you. You've got to have goals that, if you achieve them, you're like, Oh my God, how did that happen? Right now, it happens through faith, hard work, in tenacity. And I'll look, I picked up a lot of great roles. I've lost a lot of great roles, but I will at work. Anyone that I'm going up against, I will. Yeah, is that's ingrained in who I am and what I'm all about. You know, NFL quarterback, Gee, you just got picked up just because you're goodlooking guy and you're pretty good at what you do. Right. Hell, no, you grind it out, you took your hands, you did your reps, you did what you had to do. You had your bloody nose, you broke this, you were short, you didn't you had to do and you kept going. Right. Yeah, you know, I don't. You know the numbers better than I, of course, but what is it? One percent of high school players Playing College? And then what from that? What goes to the NFL? It's crazy. Yeah, it's a lot. It's you know, it seems like the NFL's massive and there's a lot of people to play it, but when you really look at it, it's not. They just they just have the highest ratings out of anybody. You know, I think there were the top one hundred shows and Flo had ninety two of them. Really is the highest ratings. Okay, you know everybody watches it, so I get what you're saying and it's just, you know, it's amazing to me similarities in everything and for me why I started this show was you can tie it all back into sports in a way, right because, like you talked about, I've been had to learn how to be in the zone, I had to learn how to get you know, the where I didn't get to play. The coach said no, dig you know what I mean. You don't win every game now, and so those are things that those lessons that we learned from sports always are like help us improve. And you know, when I see like schools and people want to take sports out of everything, I'm just like, no, it's a shame. Yeah, it's a shame maybe that there's so much that our kids are losing out on. And look when I can solve the world's problems in an hour, you know, on your show, unfortunately. Right, right, you know, we can do the best we can for ourselves, for our own our kids are grandkids and whatnot, and that's where it's got to start. It's got to start with your own. You got to take care of your own first, right, and and hopefully you're making a major impact on your immediate world, your microcosm, and hopefully that's affecting the macrocosm. Writings, and that's all I can do. I mean, I look at it, this is my sport. I love going to the gym, I train a lot and I train hard and you know, I've got twenty something your olds asking why do we train? So hard. And first they think I'm a lot younger because I'm training right hard, which is pretty cool, and because my sport is very competitive. It really is that. I can see it's top of my game. What's the one work out or equipment that you know you got to do but you hate doing it? Squats, anything, once anything. What likes? I've had two or honeys in my life and I've got chicken legs. CUSS say Nashale globally, you know, and if you look a wand to, we only see you from the waist up and all these movies. I got that pot, I've got that body. But my fiance tells me my legs look good and I love and I appreciate it. You know, I've ice hockey legs, rowing legs, soccer legs and I just my mother is built like a dancer, tall and lane, my father, my brother, I think ackers. My sister takes after the mailman. I don't know where she comes from, Short, little petite thing. There were a lot of people in Karney, you know, way back when. Well people, I said there were a lot of people back in Karney. We don't know, like who stopped to your house? You know, might have been the Milkman, I might have been the mailman. I ain't going there. Guy's gonna give me trouble. I'm not touched that man. You started it, not me. Hey, you talking bad about my sister. Now, okay, oh, now comes out. It's method acting, coming out one hundred and one. Hey, guilty as charge, you know. Yeah, all right, so before we go. Yes,...

I got it. That's what what can we see from you coming up in the future? Where's your people find you and follow you, and do you have any foundations or any charities that you're working with? So it's funny, you say about the chair. It's okay. I'm creating kind of kind of what we could we call like a like a multiverse. I'm working on a website right now and I don't have fans, man, I've got friends, people I can help, people that can reach out to, people I can impact. So we're working at on that right now. The master plan, okay, is to not only act, and acting is the driving force behind everything, but to develop a foundation on different principles that my father raised, raised us all doing that and having the movies, having that fun, the different aspects of the foundation I have I've got a western out there that actually it just lit up the world, the killer Miller. We've won seventy best movie awards. I've garnered three best actors. Wow, it took me here. I grew up my hair, took me a year and I had this beard going on unlawful duties. It's a short that's a Amazon prime. Right now we've got two million views us. Well, you million views, man, so that's that's hot stuff. Yeah, we're turning that into a feature. I'm not sure when, but I'm on it. We've got Eric Roberts. That's locked into it. Robert was sorto that's locked into it. I'm really excited about that that I'm in about two thirds of that movie, so that's going to be exciting. I've got the Italians, which is very interesting. It's it's a kind of global mafia tied in criminal series. Zach deep be, the writer director, has enough material to do fourteen seasons now. I'm playing a pivotal character. I'm the Assistant New York Commissioner of Homeland Security. I'm one of the dirtiest politicians and all of New York. And again it goes back to what I do. I look for the greedy, broken characters, because they're right, but right. Yeah, though, please look for me on facebook. Of course, I'm on Instagram, I'm on twitter. I'm new to Tick Tock. I'm learning how to Tick Tock my soul. So you're doing tick tock. My social media manager says I need to be on it. Well, you got to do is like your workouts, like in like sound swimming. Today we go boom. So you know what am I ticking? You know, he says, me goes, he goes, I follow. You got a pretty interesting life anyway. He goes. When you're at the gym, just just, you know, get the phone out and just work out. So you know what I did the other day? I did just that and I throw it on Tick Tock. The monolog I did earlier, I threw on tick tock and it just once it gets picked up, it goes viral and that's what people look at. You know, again, it's not that it's a whole new world to us, but it's another aspect it where I can reach a lot more people. You know, can't really just go from there, can you, or were you get in trouble? Can you like do your character right? Like. So, like you're talking about the Italians, you're doing this character. Like say you're just walking down the street and you're you're in New York somewhere, and you go and you all of a sudden you go into character moone do a tick tock. Is that Lee or not? Legal for you? I guess it's legal because all the kids are doing it. You know, you see these what do they call those flash mobs? Yeah, you know, they're stopping in the Middle Fifth Avenue and they're dancing, they're doing their thing. I mean, that's not me, so it'll be out of character for me to do anything like that, but they do that all the time. So it's really just be pretty cool. Like your tick tock is like you're one of your characters you created. Right, that would be really new. You know, I think. I think they do. You do want to have a certain mystique? Yeah, and they want to have a glimpse into what you doing outside of work. Yeah, I've got enough auditions. I've got enough clips from movies where every day I'm throwing a new clip up there from either a monolog and audition or from a movie that I'm a part of. While I'm at the gym and I'm videotaping me jumping rope or doing abs or doing something or swimming. So, you know, it's a whole interesting world. See, I've always looked at it. I've always said micro blogging is like virtual voyeurism. Yeah, but people, but people want in. They do you know. I'll let him into a certain aspect of it and that's you know, as I said from the star gossip, I can help anybody with anything, anything at all. You know, reach out. I watched a podcast, I guess about a year ago, and there was one of the founders of Walmart. The Guy gave his cell phone number out in this podcast and I said to myself, oh my gosh, that's kind of crazy, but he's like, look, I'm worth billions of dollars. Here's my cell phone. Might take me a little bit to get back to you, but...

I get back to you. I was just blown away. My almost serving. Huh, did you call him? I did not, because I'm like, I got nothing to ask and what am I going to say? Hey, man, my stocks losing money. What the what am I to say to this guy? You know, you know what I think would be great movies just about how you people watch. Like I go to Walmart, I don't go in, but you can go and sit and people watch. Yeah, it's amazing what you see, I'm sure. Like they just tell him like keep the people coming right. It's crazy, it's it's humanity at its best. It's well, we're worse where you want to look at it. It is what it is. It is now a I appreciate you joining me today. It was so much fun and it was great to have me know you. So it was the Italians. Now Killer Miller is there? Keller Miller? Yes, our Hiller Miller. Wait along, hair beard, cowboy. You were Chatti. He had he had one of the pictures on. Yeah, you were kind of flown through and took me a year to grow out the hair. And here, you know, I'm a time so it gets curly. So it was down in here. You pull it out, was down to here. Yeah, and that took a full year and you know, I've got to grow a little beard back. I'm doing something at dad of this month and playing a Vietnam vet with PTSD and the the producer goes, I want that hair, I want that beer. I go, well, you got to wait a year. Yeah, you gotta gave me half the money now. Yeah, all right, just lost money to grow the beard, right, you know, because I'll because I'm not going to take everything else. Yeah, you want, you want me to be the businessman put together. It ain't and a half with big hair and a big beer. Right though, if you're going to put me on hold and block me for that time, well, you could do the man bun thing like that. I did. It's not for that's yeah, that, that's it. That's an era of my life. that. Yeah, I had corn roast one. So I know what you mean. You did. I love to see that. I've now. I don't know if that picture will ever come out. Yeah, what was? There's a picture on my IMDB that I'm glad you didn't touch on today, so maybe we'll put that for the social I did. I was in the rocky heart picture show, so I'll let you go. Oh, check it out. We'll have to see that one. That's a good one, all right, lenny or D two, you got lots of nicknames already on the show, ever. Yeah, so want want you join me for a quick tick tock as we're closing up. Sure, let's go, ready, all right, there hare I am doing huddle up with gusts Frat, great NFL quarterback. We're finishing up. We're on for about an hour, over an hour, and guss say hi, Hey, everyone, how you doing? Tick Tock. I love it. Thanks a lot, guys. That's it. It's it next host. Yeah, thirty seconds now you're like a millennium. You're like nineteen years old. You're on Tick Tock. You're going back in time. Love it. Don't ever curse me like that again. All right, that ever. You know. That's fine. That's your next you get up, Take Tock, you find me. All right, I will, I will. All right, buddy. Thank you so much for joining US everywhere. Guys, thanks for joining us on huddle up with guss. What a great show. Thanks, Dennis. Thank you, and you know I like the DT. That's that's my favorite, because I was a junior and I know what it's like to be called junior. I wish I'd have been GTWO. That would have been like I would have been before gatorade. You know what I mean. It's true. That's true. Yea. Yeah, thanks time. All right, enjoy yourself, Goo, get a climing you too. All right. See You all right, folks, Hey, thanks for joining me on that great live episode with Dennis. You know, it was incredible to hear his story everything that he's up to, and appreciate you joining me. Hey, Dennis, behind the scenes are guys sonar. Take a quick break and go to the bathroom. Do you have an old car sitting around your house? Maybe you're even paying insurance on it. Well, if you don't need that car anymore, donate it, running or not, to the United Breast Cancer Foundation. They will even come and pick it up for free and give you a receipt for a tax donation. Breast cancer screening could save the life of someone you love, and right now they need your help. They want to save more lives through early detection by offering women free or low cost breast screening exams, and that's what your old car helps to pay for. So get your phone out and called right now to donate your car to the United Breast Cancer Foundation. Remember, they will come pick it up for free and give you a tax donation receipt. Call Right now at eight hundred two four five, one three seven five. Eight hundred two four five, one three seven five. That's eight hundred two, four five, one, three seven five. Eight hundred two, four five, one, three seven five. Do you...

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...very giving from from an actor's perspective and humanistic perspective. Yeah, real, real man, a monkst men. What about the narrow I did? I've never worked directly with Mr Deniro, so I really I don't know much about him from that perspective. I know when Mr Peccino walked into devil's advocate, Terry, you could hear a pin drop on set, which is really uncommon because there's so much noise and so much buzz going on. But literally there's like a there's like a hush that came over the crowd. You look over your shoulder and there's Mr there's Mr Peccino. So, but he is, you know, as as shortened stature. He's such a giant in the business, such a giant in this in the industry, and again, a very giving actor. His presence just created that silence. His presence, his aura. You know what he expects of himself, what he expects are the people around him. You know, a good actor, a professional, brings everybody to the next level. And Yeah, I just I know that's what he does and how he helps other people and and that that helps him get the best out of him also. Thank you, Terry. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Thank you all right, Bill. I appreciate you a US bill came from, but I appreciate you taken a few minutes answer some of our people that were listening calls, and I mean that's amazing. I was expecting to say yeah, Keanu Reeves brought out of football. We were playing. You know, he's going back to this replacement days and we just throw a football. We have a question from facebook. Gus, no, what's the question from facebook? Yeah, well, the question is, Dennis. Have you ever you've worked with a lot of great actors, as you were, I'll lie in your interview. Have you ever been starstruck by any particular actor? All the time, but you got to keep it together. You know, I was on set of Woody Allen. Celebritay would to a cattle call and there I am at foot in front of Woody Allen. Love Him, hate him, it doesn't matter. He is Woody Allen. And then I'm on set. I get Kenneth Branow, which is one of my mentors from afar. Whenever I need a master's class, I watch hamlet that he produced directed and Oh, start in hamlet. So I'll star struck with him being two inches away from me. Charlie steer on, two inches away from me, but it's like anything else. Right, I walk in a room and there's the great gusts fur ad. You got to be cool, you got to be professional, okay, and that's what it comes down to. If I was like, Oh my God, they would have kicked me out. I think he would get that way. You met Eli Manning, I think you might get that way. You would might fan boy out a little bit if you met Eli Manning. that. Well, that's a whole nother story, guys. That's that's that's our dying. That's my boy Eli. Or if I met messy, a so true story. I met Adam Graves. Yeah, Adam works for the New York granger organization and there's a Delhi a cross street from the garden and I was up there years ago and I'm getting what I'm getting. I turn around, there's gravy and I'm like, Mr Graves, you know. He's like Hey, I don't go Dennis Mallon and I'm like how are you? How? You know, like I was like WHO's it? And Adams like look at it, like Oh my God. So he got out of the real quick and I felt bad afterwards. I'm in La Guidia airport and I see Mike Richter near a granger goalie, ninety four, yeah, Oh yeah, and he's a short guy and I picked him out of a crowd and he's walking by me. We're in whatever, and I go Mr Richter, he looked up. I go, man, thank you so much, Dan, glad to meet you. I got a little Guy Guy, but when I'm on set, you've got it. You got it. Yeah, you can't be like that. I can't go out before game and go like playing, like when I was a rookie and I'm playing against one of the guys I've always watched, like Elway, and be like Oh my God, yeah, you know what I mean, like you can't, you just can't do that. I get it. It comes back to staying in the zone and that that's what it comes down to. I mean, you know, work in the Manhattan. I walked and I came across a lot of people. They're living their life like like you are. Look, I have people recognize me and it's always the most inconvenient time. I'm in Walmart getting tires and a hair oh my God, and I'm looking around thinking WHO's here? That's you. You did that commercial year in that movie, and then I take I'm like Hey, den Ik, that's kind of catch my breath, like this is pretty cool. Hey, how are you? Can you take up shore. Let's take a picture like my hair. I'm all mass im like yeah, let's do it. Yeah, that's the best, you know, but I've been there. Yeah,...

...of course, but when you're on set, look, they they're definitely had a level. But you've got to be you got to be a professional. You got to keep it together. Yeah, you have to, and it's sometimes it's difficult, you know, and but that's part of life, you know what I mean? Like yeah, Hey, I appreciate you so much, man, for taking the extra time and spending with us. And if you want to say I want to listen. I'm going to do a whole nother hour on quarterback. So go through this two thousand and twenty two season. Sure we may talk about Daniel Jones a little bit. I don't know. We'll see. What do you think? Hey, I like the team. I thought they did a great job in a draft, so I'm excited to see what they got. Yeah, NFC East maybe back a little bit. You know it. You know the NFC East is always, I mean, I'll tell you, always competitive, man, but soft. Well, it's not what it use to be, right, it wasn't like when I came in it was we're going to run the football and run power down your throat and do big play action. Yeah, I think every team is kind of that way now, except for the Ravens. Ravens are the team now that just run the ball down your throat. Sure. So, yeah, so that's that's it, man. I appreciate you. Good luck with everything you're doing and hopefully we can stay in touch without a doubt. Guys, I appreciate it. Thank you, sir, Terry Tea. Thank you, guys as all right, all right, everyone. Hey, that was Dennis. Thank you all for calling in. I appreciate you. Thanks for joining us on huddle up with guys. We're going to get into another hour here of talking about NFL quarterbacks in the craziness that went on this whole year. It was insane so far through the preseason and the offseason. So let's get into it. You know, one of the things I always think about when you're talking about quarterbacks is the change and how hard it is, and it is a hard thing to do to change over from one quarterback to another on your team, because it's a whole other guy to listen to, how they react to people, how they deal with everyone. The coaches have to know what the players have to know it and we had so many changes this year, you know. And let's just go down to list. You know, there's there's when we'll go alphabetical order. If you look at Arizona, Calin Marie still there. I think Kyle Mary's a great quarterback. He's fun to watch, but I got to see him play the whole season. The way he starts it. I've seen him a few years now where it's kind of fluttered at the end and I don't know if that's coaching or people around them, but he has the tools. I'm worried that they're not going to have d hop to start the season. But I think Kyler Murray's that can he obviously we've seen him win games. He can do incredible things with his feet, but we got to see him do it all year. I don't know if you have any things you want to talk about, Colin Mary, give me a call, you know, at the number that's scrolling on the screen. That number again, let me see, I got a right here. It's one hundred and eighty seven seven seven one and five six one one called in. Let's talk about it. If you go the next team the Falcons. Look the Falcons. They had a guy and Maddie ice, who's been there forever. I don't know how long that's been there, but he's a long term guy for the Falcons. Talk to my son's about why they moved on from from Matt Right and I think they were just ready. I think the team was ready, the town was ready, the owner was ready. I think they were ready to kind of go to a different quarterback. So they go out and he get Marcus Mariota and you know, we've seen him play. He's a little different than player than the Matt Ryan. So I think that they're bringing a little different elements. Somebody can run their feet. Matt was an incredible quarterback. Goes to the colts. You know the colts kind of have this thing over the last so many years where they're bringing in quarterbacks kind of at the end of their career and hopefully they can put it together and win one. But you know, Falcons with Mariota. I like him. It's going to be interesting to watch him this year. I don't know what all their parts are. You know they've lost some guys. I think they're lying. I think somebody just retired from their line. So it's going to be interesting to see. But you never can count out any team in the NFL because the parody is so great and it's going to be a lot of fun to watch. You know, if we go to the bees. You know we went through the a's color. Mary. Oh, we got a call already. All right, who we got on? Hey, got hey, Hey, Gary. How are you doing? Good man, how you do? I'm I'm enjoying your shout. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. You got a question for me on q be's or...

...whatever you want. I do. You know, I've been following the steelers and they have free quarterback and obviously there's been a lot of talk about by and obviously pick it pickings, it's coming in. But the thing that grabs me, and as a quarter by, I'd want to know your answer. When you read everything, they keep talking about there's a criteria that they're going to be used in the the one the start, but when the quarterbacks of interviews they say they have no idea what that criteria is. Is that normal? Yeah, that pretty much is normal, especially in a competition that you know the coaches are going to have certain things are going to look for. They're not going to tell you right, they're not going to tell us out in the field, but they want to look for certain things. They're gonna I just did a show on this yesterday here in Pittsburgh on n seven a fan, and you know they're going to put these three guys in mixed Biscay, Mason, Rudolf and Kenny pick it through the ringer as much as they can go on whole way up through training camp, right because they have to find out in who can handle the pressure right, who can handle it, who's going to be good under pressure? Who's going to be able to complete the ball? Who's going to be accurate? What guy do we need right now? We all know the steelers defense has been great for a long time, Gary, and you know that's one thing we always understood, is like just don't make mistakes on offense. Their defense is probably going to win a game for you. So I think as far as the criteria goes, nobody knows what the offensive coordinator and coach Tomon are looking for, but in my opinion I think mitched Biscay's going to win the job and if and if he does win that job, which I'd think he's going to. I would just keep Mason Rudoff, let Kenny Piketts city years the third string guy and learn and take in as much, get bigger, faster, stronger what you got to do in the NFL and and then, you know, go out, because I don't care who goes in this year. Once Big Ben left the steelers, it's going to be hard to replace them no matter who comes in, if you know what I mean. Gary. Yeah, right, that's a great answer. I didn't realize that. I just thought you're asking me to compete. I should know what I'm supposed to be doing to compete. Or is that know you? Well, don't fumble, don't take sasks and complete the pass right, don't throw interceptions. That's kind of the criteria that every quarterback leaves. Let's by. All Right, thanks, Gary, thanks for calling. Appreciate you all right, got MM. See You all right. There you go, Gary. Yeah, Oh, no, Gabe. Yeah, I think Gabe's called in from the golf course. gave. How are you doing, buddy? We're good. We're good. Rout hole eight. Oh, you and gunner out there together? Yeah, yeah, all right, give me your question. Game. I don't. What were you guys talking about? We're talking about NFL QB's. What do you got for me? It's the best quarterback of all time. Under stix. Foot fast quarterback of all time. Under six foot. Wow, gunner, just bringing a tough one. And well, was Mike Vick under six foot? I think it's six, I think exactly. or who would you to say, because I want to, I want to pick your brains for a second. Who would you too say his best quarterback in your minds? Tyler Maurray. That's all I get. That's all you think of. Russell. What's what? Russell Wilson? Is He under six foot? Oh, yeah, Russell Wilson. You're a bree he's like five eleven. ADREW brees like five and eleven, probably, but they're probably listened to six foot. Yeah, we just that. You guys don't want to throw Doug Flute in there. I Will gonna say dog clute about Jim McMahon. Jim McMahon told it. He wasn't under six six foot, was he? I can't tell from those throwback games. Yeah, you know. Plus, you know he always look a little smaller because he was always standing by the the fridge. So yeah, I don't know. We'd have to get Mike Tom's icon and ask him. But you know, when you guys talking about that, any five e eighty five bears? Yeah, I just think that, you know, being under six foot really they weren't. Those guys weren't given a chance until, you know, recently Doug Flute. He's one of the first. You know there's a couple guys, maybe friant targeting back in the day, but there's not many guys that have been under six foot who really had an opportunity. But we've seen a few more come out. Russell Wilson. I don't know Vick...

...was under six foot or not, but you know that that was a great guy. But there are a lot of great quarterbacks that were under six foot and you know, if they can compete and they can play and win games, I think that they can make any of the NFL team. What do you guys think? Yeah, it's good. A pully. What all right? What you're on whole? Wait, what's the scores? I'm plus two through through seven, kind of probably a plus ten, I think. Yeah, probably around that. But Alright, heard a out here. We'll check them out. Hey, all right, have a gate, great round. Guys, will see it on the night. All Right, see you. Yeah, oh my gosh, people are just calling in. Dren know what's happening, Draino, you there, buddy? Yeah, I'm here. How you doing? Doing good? I'm my honor what I was listening to tell you are on. You're on live with huddle on huddle up with gusts. So I appreciate you joining the right Draino. So well, since you know you're talking about quarterbacks and you know we've got our chat, so tell tell me how important rhythm is for a quarterback in the League to perform at a high level. Well, I think you know you work so hard on rhythm as far as quarterback can go, because your steps have to be in sink, your throws have to be in think, if I want to throw a certain kind of route, I can't take a five step drop, I got to take a three step drop or seven step drop. So the rhythm of the game is very important to quarterbacks in and we saw that happen all the time when used to watch Joe Montana play like it was a big rhythm passing game, and even to this day, when guys are in shotgun all the time. If you want to throw a timing route, you better have that rhythm down with your footwork, and so it's very important. And then some throws right that you make or just rhythm throws. It's like grain. No, I know, I know you're big into golf, you know all this kind of language, but you know, when you have that rhythm swing, it's not I got to go get to say iron, it's just okay, I can just swing and then spoom, perfect rhythm. There's throws that you can make like that and there's throws that, hey, I got to lay, take a little off, and there're throws were I got to go get this one, I gotta, I gotta put it in there. And so when you ask about quarterbacks and rhythm, it's a big part of the game, right and that and then you hit the nail on the head. So with that relative to golf, obviously the guys that play well have a great rhythm in their swing and the and when they're on and they have the rhythm, they're probably shooting a low score. When they're off, they're probably on having a great day, kind of like the QB's when they get maybe some defense in their face or whatever that may be. And then, as you mentioned now, all of a sudden you got to hit that flop shot. Well, that's like throwing that down and out timing kind of thing. So there's a lot of parallels with golf and playing qb at, you know, and it just brought you brought that to my attention. I started thinking about it. I holy smokes, is more there than I ever thought about. Yeah, I would say like that's why you see a lot of Qubi's playing gold. I mean a lot of guys from the NFL play golfs nowadays and it's sport that everyone can play. Draina, you know that. You caddy for Kenny Perry, a bunch of guys. You've been on the tour, you have your own foundation now, and I just think that, you know, there is a big parallel to that, to understanding timing, your hands, everything. I think quarterbacks kind of get that and then having them mentality to play golf is very similar to quarterbacks did. You got to be in your head, you gotta you got to compete and you know, I think it's a lot of similarities in both sports. Yeah, for sure, and I don't know. You know, did you happen to watch any of the match with the four quarterbacks at all? I did. I would say Josh Allen was not in rhythm. Well, you know what, Josh Allen has the least experience, but I can tell you he's got the lots of potentially. Sure can't put the ball, but yeah, that was you know, to watch those four quarterbacks. They all kind of do it a different way, but you know, now you put a golf club in their hand and and you know, mahomes really, you know, played well and then obviously brady and in Rogers kind of ham and Egged it and it was pretty fun to watch. But again, these guys, for the most part, they'll be the first to tell you they took the game up late, kind of like what you did, you know. I mean I don't know. You might have played at a younger age, but I don't think these guys are playing much golf and they would team. Well, now you really don't, I mean if you want to. I mean there are some guys. It depends on where you grow up, who your parents were, things like that. When a lot of us for younger, but a lot of guys I...

...didn't play till I was in college, and so you miss that kind of that muscle memory, that skill set that your brain learns when you're young and sometimes when you pick it up with when you're older, it takes a lot of practice to get good. It's kind of like, I think it's if you think about playing the piano right, if you can do it when you're young, you'd flow through it. If it's you're old you're trying to play it, man, it's going to take you a long, long time to learn it for sure. Well, it's great to chat with you. I know you got others lined up to here. I do want to say they got a good caddy friend of mine that's a huge redskins fan and he's sure would like to be tagging along. If we ever get the seat up at Oak Pint, I would love it. Yeah, bring him on. Any anybody you know. As long as he's giving me strokes, I'm cool with it. Draino, oh, he'll be giving you a strokes. He's better than me by miles, so I mean he'll build definitely be doing that. All Right, thanks, God right here. Thanks for calling during. Appreciate you. Man. All right, everyone, we're back at it. You know, it's amazing. We've had some calls. We talked a lot about about quarterbacks, but this next guy I want to talk about a little bit. I'm always impressed with people don't give them the credit. I think that he is due, but Lamar Jackson at the Ravens, to me I love watching them. I think he does incredible things. No one any NFL can do the stuff that he does. Just he's amazing runner, thrower, he can pocket past I just for me personally, I would love to see him with, you know, a top five wide receiver on there. I mean he has a top three tight end, but just see a top five wide receiver. I mean they have an incredible running game, their line a solidified so many things this year. So He's always fun for me to watch and I think he's going to be a guy that will be with that team for a long time to come. Same with the next guy, Josh Allen. He's proven himself. We just talked about it. I don't think he's focused on his golf game and I don't want them to be. I want them to be out in that field and, like Ryan Fitzpatrick said, and I interview, I saw him do the other day that you know, hey, I love Josh Allen. Right, Ryan said, I don't want to go to the bills because when I go play somewhere, I end up usually playing because the starter got hurt or something happened. So I get it. That happened to me a ton of my career too, and I understand it. So we all want to go out there and watch Josh Allen Play. I mean last year's playoff game against the chiefs, they lost, was just one of the greatest games I've ever watched. I mean there's been some incredible games in the NFL, but watching that game, watching Josh Allen kind of just become the the star right in front of us, was so much fun to watch because people, believe me, when you're down and it's a fourth quarter and you got to score, it's not easy to do. And that man took over the game and then we saw the Patrick mahomes could do. So it was just back and forth. What an incredible game. Moving on right, we got to the panthers next. The panthers are kind of an anomaly to me, like I would love to see them when more games. I've known Christian McCaffrey since he's been a little you know, I think he's a credible talent. I hope he gets to stay on the field because he's a guy that those quarterbacks need. Sam Donald, he started last year. They played Kyle Allen some, so I don't know. I just think the panthers they need some stability at that position and I hope that Sam Donald can do that. Obviously right now he's kind of one of the lower tiered quarterbacks, but you know, he has the skills, he has ability and he's just got to go out and prove it. We've seen him do great things. We've seen him make mistakes out there, but he's got to use the weapons that are around them down and in Charlotte they have some good team and Carolina and you know, I think he can do it, but he's just got to go of it day in a day out. Next team the bears. Up You guys up in Chicago at WCG. Oh you guys are listening. You know you you went from a guy couple years ago and Mitched Biscay to last year not trying to you know, trying to rookie out, trying to figure out who's going to play. I think the rookie show us he's got amazing skills. He'll probably be the start of this year in Justin fields, but I think there's a bright future for the kid. Man. You can throw it. I've seen him make some incredible runs make people miss. That's what you're looking for. I think the bears are a place that what they're just yearning to go back and deep into the playoffs and I hope they can do it. I like this new coach, I think the guys like them and I think that Justin fields could have a great year. Now, you know, he's got to do the things that that make him great, you know, not turn over the football, make the plays with his feet when he needs to and and just be the the solid leader that every quarterback needs...

...to be. So it's just it's going to be exciting for the bears this year. You know, I don't think they have all the parts that they really want, but you know, having the quarterback that they see for the future for a long time to come is a huge part that a lot of teams wish to add. And if we go to the next team, the Bengals, what can you say? You know, they drafted a guy that you know, we knew he was an incredible college player. Set some incredible records, it may never be broken in college at Lshoe and then comes to the bangles and just was lighting it up, lighting on fire, you know, and then gets injured. You know, and I think I just one of my favorite people to watch play is Joe Borrow, because I've been sacked at many times in the game. I think that they played Tennessee in a playoffs last year and he was hit. He might even sacked nine times. I don't know how many times you said, maybe somewhere in the teens, but it didn't bother them. It was amazing to watch like he just kept getting up and said, okay, I'm just going to do this myself. Then basically, if you guys are going to protect me, we're going to complete a Jamar. You know, do what you do. I'm going to get you to ball and everyone else on that team and it was just a lot of fun to watch. Man What a talent Joe Borrow is and I think that, boy, he's really brought the bengals back into prominence in the AFC north. It's a tough division right steelers have dominated at the bottomore ravens have dominated that division. The the browns and the bengals of kind of been the the little step kids, you know what I mean, like they've been behind, but but not now. The browns have put together some some really good weapons. I don't really want to talk about their whole quarterback situation because it's it's tough, it's pathetic right now. But as far as the bengals go, boy Joe Burrows just kind of vaulted them ahead of everyone else. So what a great division. I can't wait to watch it. We talked earlier about the the steelers QB's. We've talked about Lamar Jackson. So every one of those games I think we're all going to watch and watch him heavily. You know, we go to the Browns, I don't know what's going to happen there. You know, you got a guy into Shawn Watch and that that they gave a lot of money to. But no one knows what's going to happen. Personally, you know, with that many claims against them and everything that's happened, and I just don't see it and why he's out there. And you know, I don't know if they're going to trade Baker Mayfield or what they're going to do. I think it's so hard for a team to have that much turmoil going on, even though they have some incredible talent on offense and defense. But I don't know what's going to happen. You know which we did a whish we all did, but it's it's really going to be interesting to see how the browns handle the season. Now we're on the seas, the cowboys right and if east. We just interviewed Denneth Malan and you know he's an NFC'St Guy. He's a giant's guy. The cowboys always have incredible players, always have good teams, but their leader the last couple of years as as shown that he can go out and win a bunch of games. We just got to see them. The cowboys this year. I think this is your year. Was Zeke in the Backfield, the receiving corps they have, the defense they put together and with their leader, Dak Prescott, dack's just got to go out and you know, for me, if they don't get to the NFC championship game and the Super Bowl, I think it's not the season they wanted to have that can do it. He's made every throw. We've seen. He's a he can be a good leader. I just hope that, you know, he can stay healthy, he can put it all on the field and I think if that happens, you know the cowboys could be right up there and the NFC east is I don't think it's going to be soft to share. He's going to be a great division and a lot of fun to watch. Then if you go to the Broncos, boy they had some turmoil and quarterbacks over the last so many years. You know, if you think about it, that I mean they've had Joe Flacco, there's a starter right drew lock there, probably other guy, think teddy bridgewater was there not too long ago, and now they trade for a guy that says, Hey, I could be here, but how long can he be there? Russell Wilson's played a lot. He's an incredible, incredible quarterback. We all love watching them. I think he kind of got rejuvenated going to Denver and I think he is going to have a lot of fun. But it's also like, okay, how many years can we get out of Russell? I hope it's a lot because I think that I played in Denver. I enjoyed it. Denver's an awesome place. The fans are incredible. Play at at you know used to be mile high, but the new stadium, I can't remember what it's called, but it's so much...

...fun. Like home games are just incredible. I think Russell Wilson he's used to having those kind of twelve man home games and it'll be very similar when he plays for the broncos. So it's kind of be interesting to see Russell Wilson this year and a new uniform. We're so used to see him in that seahawks uniform. So it's going to be very interesting to see him play this year. But I think he's got to do great and I think the Broncos and all their fans are very anxious for that first game to watch him play. The lions. I played for the Lions. You know, you think about it, they had a guy there for a long, long time. Matthew Stafford just gave everything he could to the organization. I think he loves it. They're you know, the the people loved him. Just never got over the Hump of winning games. Goes to the rams last year wins the Super Bowl really excited form happy for him. They do a trade with the rams. They get Jared Goff and you know, I think Jared Goff's find another one. Matthew Stafford went through for all those years. Right, jared Goffins, we've seen. He's good quarterback, make a lot of throws, do a lot of things. I don't I don't know if jared's one of the upper tier guys, but just man, he's at the Lions and for some reason it's always a challenge being there right, whether it's injuries or things happen or this and that. But I liked to coach. He was a former player. You got a lot of former players on the staff. I think he coaches the right way. He gives guys opportunity, he's he lets the make decisions and I think that's what it comes down to, is that you know these when you're in the NFL you're a grown man and sometimes when decisions are taken away from you, it brings you down. It doesn't let you become who you should be, and so I think that the coach up there understands that and I think that the lions, I think they have it. They showed a little bit last year, but I hopefully, in that you know that NFC, that they can they can go and and and be competitive this year. I think they really can. If we go to the next team, packers, what are you going to say about the packers? Nothing, you know, we know it's Aaron Rodgers. The only thing I will say it's got to be very interesting to watch him this year because he doesn't have two of his receivers that he had last year. His best receiver in the League in Oh man, my name to slip my mind, but if gave him gunner were here, they would tell me. But it's got to be very interesting. You know, Eric and put it on a rope wherever he wants, you know, chest to chest, wherever he needs it. Makes incredible plays, has a savvy of the game like not a lot of Carter quarterbacks. Have a lot of fun to watch. But it's going to be interesting to see with, you know, what talent comes out that is surrounding him this year. So Aaron Rodgers, we know what he can do. He's got to prove that he can beat San Francisco in the playoffs. So when he does that, I think that they'll have a chance to go far. You know, Matt Ryan, we talked. Oh we're on Houston. Now, Texans. Davis Mills. You know, I think he showed some promise last year. I think that the year before, you know well, they had a lot of controversy was seawan being there in play it all. Last year Davis was kind of quiet, but man, when I watched him he showed a lot of good skills. He could make a lot of the throws. He's a big kid, I think. I think the Texas really like them and I think that he's going to be there for a while. I hope so anyway, because I like them. I think he's a good quarterback. I think you can do great things. I hope they put some really good players around him in the future, because you can't do it all yourself. It's team game. So we'll see. I think David Davis, Davis Mills, will be the guy in Houston. The colts man, the cults of had a whirlwin a quarterback forever. You know, Matt Ryan's Guy There now. You know, I can just think back to when what's the name came from San Diego. I'm sorry, I can't remember. Remember your name that Jakobe Brassette. They've had a ton of guys come through and they just let let Carson Wentz go after he was only there for a short time. So, you know, I hope that Frank Wright can can can get to where he wants to go with Matt Ryan, you know, and I think they're going to rely heavily on Jonathan Taylor. I mean what a running game they have, what a line they have. So I think if Matt Ryan can go in and do the things he does, be very accurate, get the ball to the right people, I think the cults are going to be pretty good this year. Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville. I don't know if he you know, if you ask them, like what do you think of your rookie year, he probably made some good throws, probably did some things you really like. Probably would like to have it back again, but was as a competitor. Obviously we've seen him play on the biggest stage in college at Clemson, but I think that he can really be a...

...guy. They can put some put some people around, which they do. They have some really good players around them, but you know, he's got to go. He's another guy that's the second year he's got to go out and prove it that he can do it. So it's got to be a lot of fun to watch him. Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes, don't guts say anything else. We know that. Derek Carr Las Vegas Man. He's been there a long time. You know, if you think and you look at his career, he's been there a lot longer than then he would realize, you know. But he's been the stable guy's been the leader on that team for a while. Good friend of mine used to be his offensive coordinator and Greg Olson and Greg said amazing things about them and you know, I think they just had some turmoil last year. Now they got an incredible receiver. They've already had good, good parts to their team. They always had a big line, they got a good defense. So it's going to be that whole division, that whole AFC west is going to be. I think every game is going to be super competitive, high scoring and the bets will just be rolling in. I think the FANDOM draft kings if they had a division to pick. That said, this is the only ones we want everybody to vote to bet on. It's probably the AFC west. So if we go on. You know, if you look at another guy, Justin Herbert, I mean man, what a divisionist is going to be. Herbert's just shown what he can do. One of my favorite quarterbacks to watch, how quick his release is, how he stands in a pocket. Big, big guy. And that game against the raiders last year, fourth down, fourth down, fourth down, just going for it. Their coach has some of the biggest conies I've ever seen. This going for four down time. As players we love it and yeah, you're not going to get them all and yeah, they didn't get one in a big game, but you know, I don't think that coach is going to stop and the players don't want them to stop. And Justin Herbert is going to be a leader of that team for a long time to come. Matt Stafford, we talked about. You know, hey, they might repeat. He's got one of the best receivers. Have one of the best seasons ever in the NFL, Cooper Cop and Matt Stafford just so. I think he just fit right into that team. Is Tough, strong. I think that's what they needed as a leader to get them over the top. And you know, Matt Stafford, what can say about strong arm just did some incredible things for that rams team last year. To you know, I was kind of like, I'm not a not A to a fan, but because what happened to my boy fits he down there. I thought Fitz he was doing such an amazing job in Miami. He was bringing that team together, so much fun to watch, and then all of a sudden they say middle, we're just going to play too and now so but to is. You know, he's got some good parts. You just got tyree kill there. They got some incredible they got a great running back to got Jenny wantle to get good tight end. So this is his year. I think if there's a guy in all the NFL that we got to look at and say okay, everybody's put a lot of marbles into him, everybody's really looking at them, I think this is. This is the guy everybody's going to watch in two of this year down in Miami. Kirk cousins. Kirk been quarterback long time up at the Vikings. You know, I just feel like Kirkspin he's got to do something this year to kind of get him over the top. Right. He's been kind of consistently at the top end of QB's but I really want to see him do something that just separates me. Said, some amazing games, very high, complete your percentage, always doing the right thing. But now we need him to go and win that big game. All of US Vikings, US old vikings, we need kirk cousins of really you know, we know he's good, we know he's going to do everything right that we want a quarterback to do. Now, all right, Kurt, take it to the big game, because the Vikings, if any team in the NFL. There are a lot of teams that haven't been there, but any team, the Vikings, they need a super bowl championship. I'm just saying that they need one like that fan base is incredible. You get them wrong in that dome. No better place. Mac Jones, New England. I thought I did a heck of a job stepping in after, you know, a guy that is the goat, the best quarterback of all time in the NFL, just obviously when all the super bowls they're just did an amazing job carry that team for so long and then for a young kid, even though he played Alabama, then one national champs, things like that. But for him to come in kind of take that spot. It's kind of like the steelers a year right, like somebody trying to replace Big Ben. It's got it was the same thing. I think Mac Jones did a great job with it. You know, I think now everybody's expecting even more. Okay, we got a glimpse of it. We got to see what he can do. All right, all right, everyone, we didn't get through all of them. One last guy I got...

...to talk about Daniel Jones. Daniel, I hope this is your year. You got the talent. We seen you make incredible plays. But you know, I hope Daniel Jones is the guy that we really want to root for because, as our previous guest said, Dennis Malan, that's my guy, that's my team. He's an NFC's guy. I'm an NFC's guy, that's where I was drafted. I'm more of a commander's guy. I hope they do well, but I don't know, I don't see it. I hope Carson Wentz does well for everyone. But so hey, I appreciate you joining me on this live episode. Appreciate all my callers. I appreciate my last guest. Thank you everyone, from multiformat network to sounder and it's just been a great experience. I don't know how I talked as much. I usually don't, but when I talk quarterbacks I can talk all day. So I hope you enjoyed it. Look for me next week, same time, same area code, same number. All Right, thanks for joining me on huddle up with guests. Will see you next week. Oh good, all right, tell Dennis thanks. Then we'll talk later. All right, all right, see you. I Paul. I'm I'm good. That was so fun. Right when I got on he was talking about Bama Football. You still there? It's good. It was fun. It was fun. A lot of static on the brick. I've blogged on and off a couple of times. HMM, maybe still a lot of static. M You make blog out and come back.

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