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Herschel Walker

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The greatest collegiate running back of all-time joins the Huddle this week as Gus gets to talk to Collegiate Hall of Fame inductee Herschel Walker. Walker talks about growing from an overweight bullied kid, into the legend that he is today. Listen to them discuss his upbringing all the way to his legendary days at Georgia. They discuss how his parents taught him to always finish what he had started, which led to him having great success in life. Not only did Herschel succeed as a running back, he also competed at the Olympics as a bobsledder in 1992 and won two matches in MMA while approaching the age of 50. Of course, you probably knew all that about our guest. What you might not know is why Walker did all of those things or what he has lived by to get to where he is today. Join the Huddle and listen to one of our biggest guests yet by listening to this week's podcast! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey everyone. We appreciate you joiningus in the Huddle, I'm your host fifteen year, NFL quarterback Gasprot,alongside my longtime friend and cohost Dave Hager, where we talk to guestabout how sports shape their life be sure to check us out on our website Odoup with Guscom, where you can listen to more episodes. Just like this. Now,let's join the huddle. Everyone o another eisode, uof e USiorhos up Roer aaterback and I'm usually joined by my cohos Ay Begger,but David Not Hereyo, got a new job and- and we wish him all the best with that.But today we have an amazing guest and I'm really excited to talk with thisguest because we actually played or the same gem. He was a little bit before me,but you know this guy. I don't even know how much I need to say if I sayhis name, you're gonna know aanything about him. He's a hisman trophy winnercollege on fame. You know he's just done it always a bob letter mix martialart. He supports the veterans. Just does a numerous things. He was. A E isa track star and just an amazing NFL player, Hershi Walkers joining us today.Her think Oha in the Ho Oi appreciate you coming man, it's apleasure to talk to you, I mean when I was growing up. You know kind of thelate S. that's when you were kind of hitting your stride, and you know Igraduated high school in eighty nine and I get go to college and you know toTalsa through that time and I followed your career and I never thought I wasgoing to play inthe NFL and just it worked out for me, but you had a wholedifferent path. So tell me about the first time in your life, you remember:Wer Sports became a big part of your life and what's that first melory Felinlove Tange, because I feeli love with a coach. I don't know whether it was thissports itself. You know I was overweight as a little kid growing upand I used to have a speech impediment where I used to bullet. I was bullet agreat deal and, and a lot of kids use a you know pick on me and no one evergave me the time of day and I had two older brothers that was very goodathletes and stuff, and I had his coach by the name of Tom Jordan and he was atrate coach and also he coached the lime barkers and football and highschool football and and all of a sudden has he was looking at me one day. Hefigured that this kid gotta have Someng. You know he got two older brothers Dona great athletes, so right he's gotta have something- and you know kids arepicking on me and all sudden. This coach use con pick me up at the churchon Sundens and he would take me out to the track and sometimes we'll sit thatin the stadium, he'll just talk to me and every now and then well go out andwork out, and I call myself working out. I Don know what I was doing and- and hetook the time out to make me feel good about Hersen Walker to the time Ot, tomake me fe oget about myself, because for a long time I didn't, I didn't,feel good about me. I never spoke in a classroom. I never said anything, butthat coach made me feel good about myself, and so I believe in him andwhen I started getting better at different things, he just tell me thatHershe you can do it and because he told me I cand do it. I know I can doit. You know if he said I could do it. I knew I could do it an and it wasn'tthat I was thought I was trying to be an athlete I was just trying to. Pleasethem think him for everything he did to for me and what was weird I remember it may have been my freshfar year inhigh school. I was a BIKEP. I was a stordin ful bite, but I was a bank uptail wy and Youeknow the fool bite not going to get that Mina, caree teacher,Ni, right, yeah, there's a trap, Comin your way, every now and then o ' not no, I can do it and it was tange to beight. We wentinto a cit in Augusta Georgia- and I still can remember this this and yearsago, and e Stortin, O Tailbak got hurt and that coach coast en went to theHeadcok Saiyo all te Poperson, M, N, Coacha, Hersa, yeahhers, Don, know thisstuff and he said coach. I can tell you right now: he knows what he's Goingtodo well, I still remember that game of Giv,a quiner team, was called a quainas. I had about Nineteen Kirriats for abouttwo hundred D, eighty something Yar and I believe in the coach. I didn'tbelieve that I can do it, but he said I knew you can do it vers, because you'vebeen working. So a lot of people don't work the way you work and what wasweird about that the net game in move me back to for bite, move in by theTail Bik and I played ful about the rest of the year, but I realize at thattime, as long as you were, Youe got to beokay, people think it just happens, and Itell people all the time. Nothing just happen. You have to get out of work,everyone wante everyone want to go to ring, but nobody want to work to get it.And you know this Infu everybody want to win the super brain teams that Weinthe Super Bowl work their tail on from the BEGINNIG. They don't just go outthere and also they get luck and Wen te Si Bo. That doesn't happen. So Irealized, then not that I was do half Te, but I will work and everything I goout and do doesn't matter what it is, I'm going to work at it. That's thereason I'm so stupid. Now Han I just...

...work at whatever I'm doing and not thatI'm successful. I didn't make sure that I want to be able to compete yeah. Sometimes when you compete nomatter what you do, I had a gentleman he got through to me on messenger, anfacebook and he asked me he says: Hey Guss. What should I do? I want to startthis new thing, but I'm really scared and I said, look if you put your heartand soulinto it and you work hard at it every day. Good things are going tohappen. They might not be right away, but if you just stay hard, nosed andjust you know just keep pounding away at it, something that good is going tohappen. So when you were young, you know you talk about this work ethic.Did you have some of that good support at home because we all need a greatcoach, but you also need to go home like two paents and you I had a bunchof bothers and sisters. I had three brothers and three sisters, but and onething that was very interesting. That happened to me- and this is weirdbecause my parents work all their life. You know- and I told Pe my mom and dadY was all their like what they were just coming from work and no matterwhat the kids were. Doitg outside my parents, woul take the time to goout and play with us. They take the time to go out and playwith is, and something happened to me- and this is on one of my military tripbut Werl whatas weird is about my mom- is she's going to beeighted for coming up this ball about five years ago, she's led Ir. Seventynine. Well, my mom. Seventy nine CA. We go to my mom's house today, my nephew'sand niece Ha Gott bigger. So it's like going to the limp got to be in shape onfewellwe Eret theeand. They started getting a basketball game together. Mymom was sitting out there and my mom said you know I want to play she's.Seventy nine and I'm thinking wait a minute. I Gona pick my mom because sheshe cain't play. She can't Ga nobody she's G to play with you guy, my mom. U So nobody picked it and what was weird I woul Wan one of mymilitary trips and I was talking and stuff and it hit me what hit me is something you just said:Sai How much work did you do? What did it come from and I said, wait a minute.My mom was seventy nine years old and she still wanted to play with me and when I was a little boy every daythey came home, it took the time out to go and play with us. sevedy nine want to play. Wit Me Yeh, IAino, because I'm oanots what IAPOLOGIZE Y T I sth. Thank you. I thank you and dad for giving me thatWorkat. I thank you guys for giving me that, and I said I'm so sorry- and Isaid that's where it come from- is my parents because they say you got agrime. You know what I'm talking about. Sometimes you got Ta Grind and I tellmy son. This is a Christian. If you want something in life, you got to getup earler to go, get it, and if your a Pinter is getting up at five Aclime,you got to get up at fool. He gets up at full an a get up at three. He get upbit three you get up at to. We get up at two, don't go to sleep because andI'm saying it's okay, if you don't have, if you don't want to it's okay, youdon't have to work for, but with what you want, you got to work and get itbecause people not going to give it to you, and if you give it to you, you knot,you don't deserve it. You got Ta Work Wider in and that's why I got it Fomifrom my parents. Now I hear you know my dad was the sameway he you know he was a middle guy here in Pittsburgh and and you know hewould come home from work after working two shifts or whatever and and wealways threw ball in a bat baseball football whatever it was, you know wedidn't have much wedidn't have anything, and you know if I lost a baseball inthe woods you said, O G ly, Iyou get Itoyou, know Youl, find it Ni yeah. You know an I a learn. How to yougot to learn how to be accurate. When you only got one ball e, but that's how it was. You know, andyou had a good support system and and then you know when you grew up in yourneighborhood. You know you have brothers and sisters, but did you havea lot of friends where you could go out and you had pick up Ya tell people nowI grew up in the country. I tell people people one day. Aske me Sai Hersar hadbe play, Dindon Dichit, I don't know if you know that is that's the ring. TheNION neihbor Dobyo Ao running and I started laughing this. What youlaughing at, I sai my names, your neighbor probabl, five miles away. Soif I had to bring that Doorbil a av been running a long ways, I said noienough to have a big familythat you we play together. You know, even today I tell people I said guyswhen you co wit. I, my mom's house Isheusa, been very fortunate now thatshe ownd a lot of proplit and we have a lot of gidts houses on the propertythat a lot of the family stays there. So it's like a she still oin. She still in Georgia,going back to the Olympis. The whole family is there and we play alltogether like if some of the nephews and NIEES got a date. You don't go tothe movie. You don't go to to dinner.

You Wright, then House with your family,Hey! Oh Man, that's going to be intimidatingfor that day, see Lo. They see the love, and I said that's what I yeah thatalways had. Is I love you know my mom is a minister. I have three sisters.That's ministers: I got brotherlans at Minista Ann, so you go. I grew up withyou is Lon Y. I don't know anything else and I say you go out and try yourhars all the time you know in the classroom. You know I knew if I didn'tdo what was right. I' GOINGTO get a spanking not that on advocateed,spankings and stuff, but I knew, if I didn't do wit was right. Yeah Wen, Iwas at univers, Georgia yeah. I knew I' better, not step out of line, becausemy paents was only two and a half hours away. If cose do that call them up, Iguarantee they wer sad detail. Hersher Thi stay right. There we'll be right upthere. I was I'do. What was, I think, that's what Helpe me out somuch valet stay and play on your next getaway to Los Angeles, the westernBondeventure Hotel and suits offers eftholisk access to all the city ofangels has to offer whether you're hoping to catch a concert or sportingevent. Our hotels just moments away from all the action and accessible toHollywood, beaches, museums and theme parks. The package includes a guestroom and valet parking for reservations, use, promocode, PS, F in the codeboxwhen making your online reservation or call one two on three six, two four onethousand and ask for Promo Code, PS, F, yeah and I think of today. If you thinkabout a lot of kids, don't get that right. They just say you know, and, andwe've tried to give our our kids a chance to understand how to make thosemistakes and and understand things for themselves, but to really support themby saying hey. We know what kids do and we understand that you have friends andthere's peer pressure and we're not always going to be there with you. Butjust so you know you can always call us, well always be there and then we'regoing to work through problems. So don't be afraid to talk to us and whe.You know it sounds like you had Tograt suppore to talk o my parents, even oTalkd to my other brothers and sisters, and you know what was so fun about itis. Is You know we may joke with each other sort of like on a football teamand o tell people this as you may fight among each other, but no one elsebetter got coming there on a fight Chir, you can fight em Oyou, not comingsomebod es com in caseand. I remember, and I want ve name this Quarterbicke inthe NFL that was a cuort Li in NF. I was watching a game on Monday nightMonday and I watch he an a kicker on a sidlineOrgun and all of a sudden as they werearguing. They started corning a figure at each other and all of a sudden, thequarterbi stopped and walkd away, and I said, mion a lost respect forthat guy, ther pese. What are you talking about us because he's my leaderand I'm not asking him to put the kicker down o Li that s but he's theleader so whatever he sais going? But I said because I walk away. Youshould have said this handle this behind the scene, but I saw gamerespect for him because I saw him do something else. I saw a tight in, I was playing with Makamistake, kept making these mistake and he grabled him in the chest and throwhim off the FE, and I said now: That's my leader Er, because he decided yougotto do whats right yeah, I said guys sometime being a leader is a toughtositon because you got to do was right, I'm sorry, Tan! You don't representyourself. You don't represent one person, you represent the team and I said everybody Mig agree with youand I said Wul you MO leader, so I'm Gointa follow you I'm going to do whatyou tell me to do because you're my lead and that's what I learned, becausemy mom and my dad won my leader. They told me the right things o doing I'msuppose to now take what they taught me to teach it to someone else, and youknow you said Youknow, some kids don't get this and I said well. They shouldbecause I should be responsible for giving this to some Ofe, now oven, TelChristian, that IAS, a Christian. You know. I want to teach you this, but ifI see his friends, hat'Si'm gonna tell him they may not like it. I'm not bakin BECO nine can't spank you EA Takeit, a I'm gonna tell give a kid. Positive reinforcement mean it don't just come down on Giveis,some positive things. The reason why not to doit cause- I say you won'tchears at think that they can conquer the world because they cant, but if youAFE putting them down putting them down, putting the vouce at they gonto feel asyou give them positive, reenforcement, ees yeah. I think I work with a doctor out of Connecticutand he is a company called winning profile. Dr Gary Russell, a d he toldme by the time a kid is two years old: They D, no twenty six ousand times oyou know! No, don't do that! No put...

...that down. You know nd Jis, like youknow, he says you know it's just our brains, our kids brains are alwaysgrowing and going until sixteen years old until they really in they're alwaysforming, and if you can just like you said it's so important. If you dopositive reinforcement, yeah, it's so much more powerful and giving thatchance, O think for got to Doit, and you know I think football players do Iwul Tellus Oonsguy. It is so interesting because I said when youplay a sport, you become involved with someton that for holes it's out of thereach of family like you're togeter, you sweat, you leave, you cried youtoeverything together. Your is a vond that is like UNMACHIBL, and I say youknow some guys. I played with long and I been around my brothers and sisters, hit's T so funny. I Tell Uson I've beencloser to cose Te, the that I've been my brotherand sister, because I've been with him all the time and I said, is sad. Like ISOM my housekeeper, I piv her long en I been my mom and you tart thinking about that. Yougo wo. s kind of interesting is kind of interesting, but you know,but the also the same thing is I didn't you know you learned something verydifferent. You know you from your mom you're always like for me, and yourparents are always like. Well, it's my parents. You know what I mean that thisperson that you're kind of just with and you're an equal to your parents arealways for me are always above you. You know what I mean: You're, alwayslearning they're, always always trying to help. So when you went to highschool, then I'm assuming, if you lived out in the country like you said youdid, I'm assuming you're. No, your high schools ar very bad. I had one of thelargest classes to graduate. I had a hundred fourteen kids, Graduatin Thev,eight hundred and forty four kids in my high school and that's eight throughtwelve, and so I had a hundred an forty four kids to graduating. This is whatso funy is is I was valutoard in my class and, andit was strange, encalled Piza. How are you veloped toward my class? I saidbecause when we grew up in t e country I can at least write my name. You knowthey can even repe o joking, but its finbasns arter than anoneelse, butiotwork I never went out. I grew up in I didn'tgo out. I didn't Dat, you know I don't go. NOUGH prolem go to the prom. MuchYe got shop woos! I A got time geing a PROEM. I had O work and I didn mind. Iwas okay with that. So wer you got so when you say you hadto work. Weo We jus in a farm. Did you have a Farmothewa everything aboutfarming, an eerthing about that? I so wee you, one of those guys thot hadto get up tand crack it on ton, feed the animals andhauffanother guy forplant everthing andwe had a couple of halls. When I was little e did a coupleof hols. I knew ow O I had to get up early on with them, but then we neverhad in a CATTL. We had horses, so I had a couple of horses and in dess I knowhow to ride and do all that stuff and goth and all that crazy stuff. But Igrew up in like that. We had to get up early, no matterwhat, because you, when you get up early, you had to go out and I had achop wood before I left you go to school, made sure that would there thenI would go to school and and if I had to play sports had o come back home andmaybe chop more wood. This stuff and ow. We had chois around the house at a IA,ave to watch distonts, youal, think Waiin, watshing dishes. Why D I nedtowatch tissue, so thatr. One reason I started playing football because Ithought I going to get me out of Washingdi. Let me start payingfotballwashing dishes, and that was a big mistake. They staved the dishes for you, yeah youstart somthing. You GTTO finish, soI started football. It too stupid. Now, O man, I still got Ta Watch dishes. Imight ave, we drop out of football wher. I started it and I got ta finish it. SoThat's O frinsh player yeah. So then, when you would have a game osay Friday night for you guys at school, I guess the whole your whole family. Would you show upfor every game? Ige, that's the whole town, O Righti, Gorda, fiveznd peopleat the game and IIT Wal Pak, standing, room, moaning and stuff, and I did T it was exciting. It wasoutsideof pros. So let me ask you this: like. Can Ialways think back to my high school days too, when we had pack games andpiser and just something about Friday, NightLights? You know what I mean like, even though you played college you played inthe biggest game. You went to National Championshinp, you've done all that inthe NFL, but something about Friday night light man as just ti Ole town.It's like it's corroderate in the town because y we live in this little areaand I don't know if you ever heard of a little ar called sweatin now not swas.Wor Is Bery Young, but Santasvile Jord at one time, Sanisvi Georgia and moreguys in the NFL than ine one in the...

...leagues of that they were close by andwe had a little time called swains Broa, wickersom count and Cockran. They put acouple of guys in college and all that. So theyi Friday night everything colsdown, it was like it get it on hey listeners, thanks for joining Dave andI in the huddle we invite you to join our excusive huddle through Patreon,where you can get access to content made just for VIPs, like yourself, headto our website, huddle up with gustcom and hit support our podcast on the popup ad. Once again, that's huddle up withguscom. Now, let's get back in the Huddle, Oh yeah, those were the good old ings man ridinga bus to a Game Ryan you and your buddies. You know what I mean. It wasjust something something different about that. You didn't know it now youO Drenk. This is Onetu. I Never Dean you playing colleg! I believe dreamedlike baning with my plans here, you'n wee having a good time, bon winingfootball game and that's what you know. That was my biggest dream. I neverdreamed that. I have you know. How can you dream to go to college and that'stoo big? That's too much to think about that's too far out there te Tak o so askind o wile yeah. We didn't even have you now. We didn'teven know about that stuff until you got like a letter in the mail right now,every kid seeing it when they're in eighth grade it's like these, you knowthey can see all the social media and everything that's going on. I thinkit's insane that all the pressure we put on kids for doing all that becauseI'm sure like me, you probably play Bultipa Forntrat, I play baseball. Idid every sport, you can name and yeah. I was decent and IAS decent had a bunchofem, it was fune. I got scholarships and three. I got SCOP and basketballtrack, my Bil and and football. What was fun as I got. Igot scholarship to North Alina and basketball. An people say you. Ga IsYeah Goy. I Wu Skal, who wha but ten as I looking at myself in the mirror, I'mlooking at a at that time on five Aleven about two hundred and twelvepounds, TN fifteen pounds- and I was I was starting for in high school. So I'mthinking Fiv it football basketball. TAT's, be honest. I don't have a bodyfor a basketball player, so Wen play football. What now and then we'll getthat amit, but you I sign a Trit scouship at Georgia. I jus Ns got SItryitealwhat, you bro Wasou. What woal your would you run? Ghi was a sprinter,your hunder meter and- and I tell People Peo, you always ask-is Coso. You too big terond and I was like o wear that in the Bible, sometimes Younot, even stupid. God TakeCare of you because I nevr read that you're too big Toron, I'm Nov real thatyou can't run fail yeal. I nows you just run cause all you do you. Do you think that that runningtrack really made you faster, like? I think that I told kids all the timelike they just want to do football. I'm like no go do track in the fucin thespring. If you do nothing else, it's going to help. You increase your speed.You can do don't Jo flu football. Do you TRYPRES MO SPEAK OT? He peoplethere's a big different trite speed and football speeding, people a. What areyou talking about Usyo it? Just different, I sayd it is totallydifferent an if people are shockd that I can run as fast as I can O is guysguy. I had a rune guy that was smaller that and they used to talk a lot oftrash. You know I just get bud of Yee Talin trs O me, I'm like shoot. I belike Myom Oli, I' reat to shoo. I can run with you, so I rant some of thefase guys in the world beat tha ton of him, and I said because I can run togotem that size o matter and I tell people that's the same thing isstepping te Kida Arto guy stepping into the ring and all that stuff likebecause you've been doing it long, and I have that on me, you're supposed towinm right exactly exactly you know whatfunny I go. O Zeqi Elliot in high school and Yeah and Zek Ziq was ahardler. You know he ran a short her along hurdles. I mean he did it all andyou know he'd leave football practic and go and train for for track, and hewas just I. His feed was uncanny on a football fill just because of that, andhe also was a hundred meter guy too, but you know he did it all and he wasSayg, hey coach. Can I go Traini, I'm like yeah man, go train. Do what yougotto? Do you know as long? I never let a kid. I never told a kid. You can't go.Do something you wantt go always her. Every kid you know they wantat one timewant to be Stephen Curte. I want to be stepen. CULWA said E cuis! Okay, if youwant be steen curry, have you seen videos or Steven Kurishin, a basketballat three? I said it in just he came out...

...his mom moon, able to play in the NBAthat Ki een practicing forever Yif you ging to Prathis d, but you gotpracttice you gotta Work and Inow people laugh at you all the workoutsaid I didn't a a guys. I don't do the work out, I'm not trying to impressanyone. My workout, my thing is: Is My high school coach told me that personwhat you gotto do? Is You got to think about wicker on count men? Those guysover? There are pricing because they want to beat you. So you got to workhorrtor. You got to do a little. I more pushup. We didn't have the weightprogram. You got to do lot, Hore Pushin! Maybe you do fifty hell, Gose theyrbench pressing like two hundred and twenty five pounds force you need to doyou do a thousand more pushup to thed? Oh there they over therea hers, theycan squat, they can squat at that time in high school. They US part threehundred pounds. What you need to do. You need o De Problem, Maywe, maybeabyu two hosand situps- and I said that's what I was thinking. I said solike you know Mr Te and gotta be rocky up and he was Himlin. The rocket was achampion he's over there. Jumping Rote, like marror, had a little lamband he'skissing babies and they cut away tho misse te Mesa Ti is sweating and hit inthe flag and stuff, and I Sgu that's the way it is in life and thincompetition. You think that you, the top dol yeah,but that's someone that got O, show up one day: Definin Price You', Veentrainid. You got to be ready. Let me, let me ask you question aboutlast. One about high school here is when I coached Zeke, and I also cootfora lukon who plays for the Falcons too. You know when I coach those to I said,look guys I'm going to be harder on you than anybody else win his team. We onlyhad twenty eight kids, they were a small school in St Louis and I saidbecause they all look up to you they're, going to follow you more than follow me.Did you have? Did your coach wo ever talk to you like that say, Hersh, I'mgonna, Om, Gona, Bumy, workhe Dol me bad te O. I know you can do it. Ye said everyone want to quik sometime.Everybody want to take shortcuk an that short cut in back reak Miyou. Take itday, you check it tomorrow, and you said that ain't like don't think thatlife is not taking the shortcout. LIFEF is getting up. You know we shouid thinkabout your father. I bad got a rollit every morning t work. She did at swing,Shit sometime, meaning he'd, sometimes work all life and he come home so think about Hiin and what he binYoue out here, goof and all and H, Yeu N, I'm going to say you got to be agreat coach cous, you coach, some good people and you put them in Nflan. Youput a good mindset because everything I think that the different between agreat athlete and a good atdete is so little it sa who want to pay that figt and for the long term how much gasolineyou got in your teem because you got to do it. Everythingnot just today, you Gott, do it everit every day and it becomes a gride, it does become a grid, and then youthink about the guys who gointo the military and how they break them downwhen they go in for basic training. My Wife's little brother, he was an armyranger, we've had military in our family forever, and you know you hearthe stories about basic training and how it broke them down, and I alwaysthink about that through two days and everything that we've always gonethrough. Is You know that's how we build up you break them down, you buildthem back up and and we're going to find out who has the GASP in the tank?You know who help a it t where we want to go, there's a price to be fain. Youcan't just go up and just think Ou' GOINNA happen. They don't jesthere's,no big Exploson, but oh gee Ra, let Goso so then wasn't always going to be Georgia.Georgia was so far of my list because at first Youi was hiated to theMilitary Youk. Even though I got Oshit Academul can stolship that'. Can canyou believe I got Idi scholarship to go to college and I was getting all theseathletic cholarship to go to college and I roeallydidn't want to go. I wantto go into the military, because I I'm one of these good guys at love.American. I just think that people sacrifice so much and Y. I owe so muchto my coach, an Muc to my parents, O much of my family, and I just thoughtthe military was a place for me in te bed. I wanted to be a maleg and I couldtell my mom and dad t that time, couse Yo on do tor in my class and I' weakstudent doing well in sports and stuff that mom dad. I don't really want to goto college. You know my sister just calleg hiven to Universie of George ona Trad styrshipand and I could just tell Hem that and you signon DayonCollege athlete was like February well February. I didn't say that Ididn't sign iderstand, that I just thought that if I just let it go, letme go to the military and I remember Eastter Sundan, my nickname is bothand.I told my Momas minicer my mom came in...

...then she said Youn Bol, don't you thinkit's time for Beou to decide where you want to do to school and before I couldsay now, Mom Dad. I want to go to the military she said, but let me tell youthis. She said your mind in your heart ispure or the Lor gesus. It really don't matter about your decision, Gon God andmake it right for you yeah, I'm a Seveto Kid Bou, O Oeso, that's o! I end up going to theuniverse of Georgia, flippy Cornn eside to go to military go to college. Itcame with me to go to college and I flipe between three SCOODS, where stodto go to in e onest tro. It came up Georgia and then an no. This wasridfeow people thank gon line, but you can ask my family. I end up pulling thenames out of a band. I pull Georgi all three time and Wano to e Ondoor to you. USITIdon't mean Itat that time I was firs to tell my fans. I warejoking out e, my youner brother. They called up everyone, so he's decidedhe's going to come to Georgehe's coming to Jordan. Everyone showed him at myhome like recorder, TV Cams and all this. I was too embarrassed and thoughtGod, I'm just joking to the military and Itoal ked in on y alwas, fifteenand a half something you Kar. I got you. I want to do what I want to do, but you, my mom sayd something else likesometime when you naive and stupid. Andyou love the Lord Jesus you'll takecare of you, and I said God wasn't taking care ofimcs. That was a like decision. I could have ever Madee my life becausehe'sdone so many grouap great things. For me: Hey Hoddle, up fans. This is producer,Logan Carney. We thank you for listening to another great episode. Ifyou want to hear more about how sports can change somebody's life be sure tocheck out my novel, our seats and left field on Amazon, our seats in Leftfieldis about Andy Smith, a sixteen year old kid who grows up a big pirates fan withhis dad right before the pirate's two thousand and thirteen magical season.He loses his dad to cancer, read all about how Andy overcomes his depression.While the pirates find a way to win. That's our seats, an left field onAmazon. You can buy it right now. Now, let's get back in the Huddle, Oh yeah it! What a great decision Imean, even if Youd have went to the military but an the way. I look at it.It's all come full circuitful for you, because you did everything now that youcan help and support a lot of veterans in the military that I do mean so mucha started. A penom called patro support about twelve midleer twelve years ago,and I got TA think uhs out of King of pressure Pennsylvania. You know theyare they've. Hept tit. Give me for that. Behavior Health, hospital and mentalhealth W I try to meet. Take my mental health and I'm at a base. Almost everythree weeks talking about that stickingman because people don't knowafte football after the NFA, I develop a angel problem. I don't know what really was going on.I'm thinking, whatwoas going on the COSO Walk Younow, guys I never drink. Inever tasted alcohol never had a beer, never taken a drug, don't even takemedicy and I'm trying to figure out. Why do I have a Ama problem and knoweveryone else is wrong except me, and I found out out dianosis having did tosocial identity and Sord, and I'm like what the crap wis that Ligke Thad I lowthe book about it about the social I dinity, O sord inthe Book Dis so well, and I aind up investing in Behavior Hale Hospital.But what was fin is. I went to Ha Hospital Myself Jefke because I didn'tbelieve it yeah ecause, it's supposed to be a mintal pro right. You knowperson with a mental problem. Gout there master, you know you want bb,gotta, be a muster, got be some right, t well or they're weak or they. You knowthey got to ask for help, and you know wha, ontowe and E. I went to a hospital,a heavy professional to help me. They have me to see te life and I got out of the hospital in mylife open up even bigger and brighter, and you know sometimes you considerweak and that's when I got into the Himan Mab and beating up everybodybuild companies as well and stuff, and that's no realy was able to go to themilitary and try to help interview that stigma. Tell him that you guys you'reyou're the true hero you're, the Superman. The Batman did te hurt thehall that think about, because I sacrifice so much and you do so muchfor this country t greatest country in the world and there's no shame as forhelp. Don't think that you're all alone- and that's sometimes what we feel likeif that, when you suffer from some problem that you owe by yourself- and Isaid no you're not by yourself- don't think that you by yourself and and I inover the last what well last year alone,...

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His name was todd. Hays Todd was wasthe line backer for us at the University of Talsa. He was, he wasinto martial art as well he's kickboxer. He was a world champion kickboxer aswell, and then he went into Bob floeding and we're, like you know. Allthis guys from the football team are like wait, isn't that todd on thebobside team and he loved it y had the same experience. You did where you getthere and you become a part of the US and a way that you never thought youwere. You know, and you representinthe greatest country in the world, UnitedStates of America and I'm Lo guys working as for anything better thanthat. That's the reason I love all the United States momentary because of guysyou're represented the greatest country in the world, not only that you'reprotecting e making it the greatest country before because we're not thegradtes country. The World War calls a mcdongs or the Coles of the dolphins ofthe Cols, how the cowboas really Grat comntr in the world, because I WulUnited States, military jhus, partictlar and IAS A man. Is that a nota Greik team to be a part of right there? It is so tell me tell me about yourInitiala you'r supporting orveteran one of the things I do every three weeks.You know I have a like. I Sai a patron support me and young guy by e NAM, TatItdrnilandin. We mad go out to a base and was weird. I get an opportunitywhethe, I'm out in the ocean with the seals or whether I'm turnit over in aplane whet. I'm being you know, wherher I'm training, I traine with them,jumping out of a plane, all things and and ecause. Most of the kids, as in themilitary have heard it NAM. Porewalken your ther dead Allih. They have f your God that theyhaven't seen before get up in a plane will and I'm jumping out of a planewith Mer who the Wol just Goy, or to see this got eside in the ocean withuntil Tuf ta. I was like Boin e heck at this prasin Ti, and then they sit downand listen to me and that's when I talked to him about.There's, no shame as for help that you not list men that Co com to ot POB,that's whet. I tell him that you're not alone that you know don't suffer Alonobecause sometimes that's what they think, because they've seen so much.You know we sent Oul young men and women over to another place to anothercountry to fight fouks where they see things they don't see here they heargunshot, they hare bonds going off every night. They hit these things andthey go out and then see things that we don't see here on all the streets. Welegot Ma now, but we don't see them when OAS streets wher. They have to dealwith Thom things everyday and Al Soden. They come back an some people can dealwith it. Some people can' Ko people that can't deal with people ol thatcrazys that Cret they're, not crazy. So that's what I try to help Mhim to seeyou not crazy you're, not that monster that people think you are. You Yu, youjust puting my hand on, but let me help you and let you know that you can getsome freedom and get some pieace, because I've been through it cau. Thiswas so funny people don't know. I've been through. This I' got deep, deep,deep in these deep trip places that you never thought. Hersenwalk Ould Bet,I've been there but- and I got him Yeahi know thatthere's a light thing. Well, you know- and it's so funny mywife is a therapist she's, a social worker and she works in women'sbehavioor health for women with postpartem and PARENATO issues- and youknow she's always telling me about that. Like you just never know who has issues,and it's so hard for people just to ask for help, and you know and ind so manypeople, just something simple, is just getting it out and talking about it canhelp. You know, for me, we've been married now over twenty five years andwe've done a lot of therapy to stay together, because you know that's a lotof you have to. You have to go and talk your issues out and if you don't Needo,try to keep it allside, it's not good utop become so ashamed like. Oh I'm,the only one doing this G, you know they dot knows me as having the socalIdidin disorder and I'm like what a Crowp is that they, the sor aing thout,Wa, Secause Yokno, seen that movie Lik wait. 'm, not o Mi', not crasy, likebusiness, has nothing to do with that Os. What had to do it is that you knowOto because you build it. You NEAN, to put at those feelings you have backhere. You didn't deal with all that angry at those fielding, so what I wasdoing is use all in that anger and stuff Tou, my athletic like I, wepraying that Ainto. That's reason I can play sports and I can do so many crazy,not hps, O crazy things. I can do so many things, because all that angle wasdisplayed ther, but then all of a sudden, when I nowtought men to get out of sports all that angers in the streets- and youknow Michael Jordan when they say it something and as a guys that maybe whatI'm talking about I said you know all...

...the anger that I had with people ehears you play with like a Disincettin show you play with a broken disk thisand that Ho played our tat that anger that I had from being bilded. As aMichael Joran say you know, Whan, I'm in my zone Yo sa I'm Super Ma Hes I can faste. Ican jump Behir right and do some amazing thing, and I said that's whatI'm talking about when you and your zone on the basketball court- that's,that is okay, but if you bring that to your house who scare people to DeathHiy, don't I'm Sin Welli'ino, that's way, yeah well, and I think a lot of veterans feel thatway. You know thethey're in that zone because you have to be hits life anddeath ht, it's life and death over there right and then all of a suddenthey come over here and people. You know it's just not the same. It's likeyou said it's not the same. It's not life and death anymore, but it's adifferent kind of feeling. Yes, and I think that's why it's important, whatyou're doing and telling your story and and really talking about your bookbreaking free right and it's so important that people read that andthere's people that want to help and if they just ask for it, they'll get tonsof it because I know there's a lot of people that really appreciate ourmilitary and thank them all the time I did. I thinkin so much and to told thim:is they steal at Fur? Tey still encourage me. They encourage me all thetime to be better an who I am cause. I said you give me this right is freedomthat I have so I don't want to just warmat away. I really use it forsomething Tho hilp up, I wont help prothers with it, because right I oweit to them. Yn Esus even say pers. You know, if you don't help someone elsewho are you you ai' this worl ain't just about you.I tell people this Isai Wel just about you and sor Tatis, but God put you hereto Heve F, others to well there's seve and a half billionpeople in the world. So it's not just about you right. So so tell us where,where people can find your book and tells how they can our fans can supportyou and your Causeif, you Gowhat, is it Amazon? You can get my Ezon waing fleehorse, Walkin my life ith, the social BIDII disorder and Pagen support yourand Ike. I Sai, I think, uhs, there's a private group that we've been doing it,but I love love Marfyo to goon and just encourage me more and go. I don't wantmy twitter and all my handers, all my son and my wife. Does it and I tellpeople all the time, I'm say truth. It may not be what you want,but I said that's what great about America. We have the right e fat, foltouselves to decide foroomselves, and I think that's what is great about thiscountriis you. We have the right to disagree without being bullied withoutbeing put down and thats what so wat all right. Well e one little last thing:I do this. Usually it's called a nohuddle drill and it's kind of a lotof fun. It's our last two minute segment here and I aske you just acouple questions and just kind of let the tention down Asowhat on is: what's your favorite food? You only eat one meal a day, Hunte Bom yeah. How do you, how din ask you howyou do that doing that for years I started it when I was in college,because you know I was graduating early and I don't want to miss out on makingan extra twodollars an hour. So I wouldn't eat lunch and I never eatbreakfast, and so I just my body got where I only eat one mel the day andI'l Ben Fine. I don't think- and I don't eat that much and I want a foodcompany, but I don't eat, I don't eat red meat anymore, don't eat any fishlittle bit of chicken. I eat more supand Solad, I'm a ES, a forse butlike say my favorite food. I prope Im to say that. But I an have a hunter bonin a colt and I mson Foste aone time milk. I don't know wheters they had ine, but I thought it were awesome. I like Eah and people hat just sugar as aGod o loves we Didt, because I have no idea, but I don't get hungry. That's pretty amazing that you can dothat. You know a it. You know. I've know Terry cruws for a while. You knowand Terry play with me on the redskins. You know and he does interminenfasticwhere he won't eat he till like ten o'clock at night till to the next dayand he's always talking about by the time two o'clock. If I don't have foodin front of me, I'm Gonto et somebod Kito, it's just like I'm starving so,but you've kind of worked Forallthdurin Game Day. I never hate game what theycall it game me. What do you call the me Ne a Pregam melike, because if youeat pregame meal, noma themer you ain't...

...on Saturday, it's going to be theenergy you need for Sun, so not the you! Gotta Eat, Sun Te, Moro, Ri Giv me asat so I wouldn't eat. I Ma EA Saturday and I win need again UN Tel Money Nigtbecause I don't get home with through the sun because I'm not going toeatcause e sorti. You feed- and you know this an heaven dog. If you feed adog, he become lazy. Now you want to lay down. You want to Te doll when youwork and you want to keep it right. You want to keep him working and I I don'twant to feed me. Ro stay home, so I'l working all day. I don't want to eatanything because I don't want to keep where I get slopes, but I don't eatanything and- and I ust go, that's awesome. I don't know if a lotof people can do that, but you definitely canoon' Dowhati do somtimallright. So if you could go back and give a young Hershel some advice, what wouldthat advice be Wa Anvice, be. That is a good question. I think theylet my mom play basketball with me and stepen, and then she was seveny.Nothing because you know that really hurt me, and it makes me say today whenI think about that, because you know there's a lot of things I could havechanged. I done something different, but I tell people all in all. You knowthe kid that beat me up is a kid by name Anthony Lodan. I still rememberhis name. Hee said what wild I do if I saw Herai Robaly Wudn't do anthing to Ithining. I probably thinking because, eventhough that Ma ave had a big impact on me going to a hospital like a behaviorhealth hospital for all at all, my life hadn't been that bad. I Ma a some toughsit bike right Ito, the hospital with the things I went through, but all inall my life Havn't been that bad, and so, if I give a young herse advice ma, maybe- and maybe it be Yo Kno should be be honest to you. Se fory I UNETON ASFbe play basketball. T my mom Aset me Ni, that's good! Well, maybe you shouldDRIFP over there and say: Hey momle's go shoot SOM hoops. She probably makes him free throws.That's for sure. Now. I'm sure I don't know how much movies and stuff that you watch. But ifyou did, what is your favorite Torard movie is. I just saw one about the kid from O RArkansas a tei football player birds. What is coll so the oh well I'm tod to naming ohem to. Ican't even think of that by so one about the kid at wor e, glasses, ro,fag, balls work, yeah wo, but I forgotto move the name of the movie: No, Not Bron Brior from Arkansas, andthey got t e r. The college awar named outter him he's the greatest Walcon. Hewon't o okay, Yewwatbrbbutyou anr whats. You want to see this movie becausether's a true story is about this kid that ever he told everyone. He was afact. Hea told everyone greater, that's name o greater, but he told everyone hewas going to be a football player at the Universey Arkansas. If people laughat say you're too fat you're too fat. He even went to a camp, and these inthis movie is not that old went to a camp. The cobchis told him too fat. Hetoo small to be an offense line and he said coach. I work I wantd to do it. Hewore not only to be an office lanman but distored at Universiy Arkansas, notonly the stor, a unverse of Arkansas, but the play you got drafted by thelambs in the first lone. Well, this was interesting wow. Henever played I down rafted by that ran really. He was goinghome to go to church with his mom and he was tin, and let me tell you what it is calledcreat a limite I, on of the best sports move ie ever seen, because it shows you if you have a dream and you willing to work an conker thatgreat dream, because no one believed in this kid, even his brother Blievemin,his mom did yeah in Mor believe in. If people laugh ATSA, you're too fatyou're not going to do it. They said in e, in the coaches and Arkansas thatyou're too small, you need a game weight, so he showed up at the universe,O Arkansas, eer, wanton three hundred and something pound, but Yo had a Bigotofes out of ou o say and it coase away.

You got to get in shape, you work, getin shape and became a star, and not just a starter and all American an notAr Gein drafted in the first O. Well, Hey wow, we're always looking for something goodto watch around here. So you know I'll mention that to the family, but Hey Hershel, you know, I reallyappreciate it was great meeting you. You know I've always been a fan andI've always watched you growing up and and really appreciat how you approachdyour your life and how you approach the game and everything else. So thank youfor joining us on hutdle up with Guss, and it's just been a pleasure for me tosit here and be able to talk with you. Yeah so have a great time and rightwhat I don't know. What is the? What is it, what he was the saying for Georgia?You know, is it it's not just goes Lord, you Ri, you guys Kto Likeyeah. Thereyou go this yearssthis year was Georgia year,I'm telling right now they had players that and- and I'm not just saying itbcause its Georgia Georda this year. I could tell you right now: This wasgoing to be thei year. I think Oha state, Georgia and Climson was going tobe the top three teams, and I tell you what Georgia had you know they got thekid from what was Weit forest it like that oneway that was coming on yeah and they got the running Bak lete sa George gotrunning by Thro Se, you sthey had a team and it's like, Ohman, this you know got. I want everyone to be safe, withavines, but let me Taywith Georgia got a team this year, yes yeah a little bit anyway. I'm excitedso thank you Gein for joining me and Ottawa O Gus. I really appreciator Av agreat night, all right, cont care, say obudy. Thank you for joining gave and I in thehuddle. We hope you enjoyed our podcast if you like, to hear more podcast, justlike this go to hotdoup with Guscom, where you can find our social channelssubscribe to hear more by our merchandise and join our excusivehuddle through patreon. Please join US next week, but we talkto more guest about how sports shape their life.

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