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Fred Funk

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Professional golfer, Fred Funk joins me in the Huddle this week. I talk to Fred about his time growing up in Maryland and how working at the University of Maryland golf course starting at age 10. He was a multi-sport athlete growing up but golf eventually became his passion. He attended the University of Maryland, studied Law Enforcement and was on the golf team. After college, Freds journey to the PGA was not easy but he never gave upon his dream and eventually eatrned his PGA Tour card.  

Fred has had such a long and illustrious career that there is to much to write. Here is his PGA Bio.... https://www.pgatour.com/players/player.01381.fred-funk.html

    

...welcome everyone to huddle up with Gus.I'm your host, 15 year NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte. We're here in the new 1631 digital news studio. If you wanna learn Mawr or listen to previous shows,you can check us out on our website huddled up with gus dot com or whereveryou listen to your favorite podcasts. While in the huddle, our guestsdescribe how sports shaped their life. Now let's join the huddle. Hey,everyone, welcome to another episode of Huddle Up with us. I'm your host. Gustfor about 15 year NFL quarterback, Um, and I wanna welcome you to our newstudio 16 31 digital news studio, and you can now find us on Sounder FM. Sosounder FM, we joined their team were so excited to be a part of sounderbecause of the ways that they're really using technology and moving podcastingforward. So I'm excited to be part of sounder FM as well. Today's guest. I'mreally excited for, uh, you know, he played in a PGA Tour, one major events.Uh, he's on, uh, PGA Tour of Champions now, and you know, he's just had anamazing career. I was so excited to talk to him. I watched his, uh, chickensoup for the soul for golf. And it was amazing to hear some of his stories.And it brought back a lot of memories of from when I was a kid. Just seeingmy parents worked hard. So today, joining us from Colorado, getting readyto go out and build his golf courses. Fred Funk. So, Fred, how are you doingtoday? I'm doing good. You excited beyond Yeah, I know. You grew up inTacoma, Maryland. I'm not sure if you were a Washington football team fan ornot. Uh, but most people in that area, we're back in the days. Well, big time. Yeah. I grew up inCollege Park, Maryland, right by the University of Maryland. I was born inTacoma Park, but from 87 on, I was in College Park and I was a big Redskinfan, and then I was a big Oriole fan, so I never really was a raven fan. Um,although I root for him now because it's just the Maryland connection, ButI'm more of a Jacksonville Jaguar guy Now. I'm all in on them and we've beendying but I think we've got a pretty bright future, I hope with ah, huge caproom and Trevor Lawrence coming in. Yeah, my friend, my one of my old coachis now the offensive coordinator there. Darrell Bevell. So he's pretty excitedabout it as well. I think that if they do get Trevor Lawrence, they're gonnahave a great team. It's somebody that you could really build a good teamaround. Uh, I feel bad for Gardner Minshew because he came in a little bitlike me, You know where he came in and no name and accept. I never had amustache, mustache and a mullet. So, uh, I think that that that's a littledifference for us, But, um So, Fred, tell us about when you were a kidyou're growing up in in College Park there. Um, I know you played multiplesports. You were in boxing. You played football, baseball, everything. Butwhat was that first real moment for you, where you fell in love with sports? Well, I always love being outside, andI had a great street we grew up on. It...

...was back in the day when all the kidsjust met out on the street and we played pick up football in the middleof the street. We had a basketball hoop in the court, up down the street, andwe have paddle tennis. That that was really fun, because up in the court, uh,they put a strong a tennis net and, you know, it was hooked to the tires likeyou used to for the volleyball nets and and the tennis nets and all the adults.All the parents came out and played as well, so it was really a great sportsstreet. We probably had about, Oh, jeez, 12 to 15 kids that were all about thesame age, and we just hung around together. And then I ended up gettingintroduced to golf, a 10 years old with my dad, and I started working at theUniversity of Maryland golf course when I was 11 and, um, started that gave mekind of access. While they gave me kind of accent, I had access to playing andhitting balls, and that got me going in the golf. But during that time I waslike the typical kid and boys club, playing, uh, peewee football on and, umboys Club baseball, basketball. Um, I did box, uh, from eight years old. Iwas 16 when it was junior Golden Gloves, which is age and weight. And then thenext step was just wait. And I said, I'm out. Um, and the irony of that is Igrew up in the same county, P g county, which is where Sugar Ray Leonard grewup. And he was in on on the boxing team down in the Southern PG County. And wehad a big tournament Andrews Air Force Base every year where we would have alike a double elimination tournament. And we were the same age Sugar Ray andI and I never fought him. I in hindsight, I wish I did it. Just say Igot my butt kicked by Sugar Ray, Um, when I was a kid, but but he wassomething else because he got in the ring at eight years old, you kind ofput your head down and you have no boxing skills at all. You just kind ofwindmill your punches. And then you learned the art of boxing and Sugar Raywas a little different. He got in the ring and and had ring presence and justhad this skill level. And, uh, his, uh, hand speed was ridiculous. So, uh, youknow, he went on the obviously great things. Arguably one of the best.Definitely one of the best boxers of all time and especially in awelterweight and middleweight. So, uh, he was really fun to watch, but it waskind of need to grow up and watch. That guy developed, and I just had a areally good childhood. I had, uh, you know, the opportunity with all the kidson the street and then growing up at the University of Maryland Golf courseand and starting the work there when I was 11 as a CART guy in a range guy andjust did that, you know, cleaning the carts and picking up balls. And and Iwas always around the game, so it was fun. You don't really see that anymore.Golf courses where there's 11 year olds bringing your cards and things. E thinka lot of those rules have changed. So I...

...think you got kind of lucky being ableto do that, which I would have loved it. But I live close to golf course either.Yeah, I did that. I had a paper out since I was eight years old. And then,uh, you know, that was where I got money, too. So I was always was working,and I kind of followed the examples that my mom and dad and my brother, um,just had a huge work ethic, and I was never afraid of working. And and Ithink that really helped. May I? My work ethic to when I finally did focusin on getting better golf, which I was a late bloomer. But, um, you know, Ilove the game, and I love the aspect of being, uh, you know, practicing on yourown and you develop on your own rate, and nobody know. Coach will tell youwhether you're good enough or not. You either are or you're not based on whatyou shoot. So I like that aspect of the sport and and the camaraderie andeverything else that went along with it. Right? So, um, you talked aboutdelivering papers. I mean, I used to help my buddy do it, and I don't know.I think we had 200 papers. We had a delivers but they came flat and we hada fold them all. And by the time we were done, fold them all. Our fingerswere completely black from folding the papers. I don't know if you rememberthat, but then we'd fold them. You took him in, And then then it was like, howhard did you throw from the street? Up to the door? Yeah, I did that kind ofunique because I would put the papers between the storm door and the door andnot bad, or let the animals get him or anything else. So I I was always edon't know why I did that. I kind of went over the top with that. But then,at age 18, I was still delivering papers at 18 years old and and my dropmanager who was dropping the papers to me. So you wanna do Saturday andSundays and drop the papers to the carriers? And I was making $8 an hourin the seventies, Um uh, driving the truck. But I had to leave it one in themorning on Saturday morning and Sunday morning to go downtown and get thepapers. So my dating life was, uh, pretty horrendous. E usually go out onenight and then sleep it from dinner until one o'clock and then go to work.Yeah, that was a lot. So through your high school experience that you onlyplay golf for Did you always played multiple sports sports All way throughhigh school? I played the boys club level, butmainly golf. I were really wasn't big enough or fast enough for for thefootball team in our golf coach was I love to play football, but, uh, my golfcoach was the football coach and he said, There's no way you're gonna playfootball because hey needed me on the golf team. He didn't want me to gethurt. And, uh, basketball was just too short. And, uh, you know, I think theonly sport I play above the rim miss...

...golf. So it's, uh it's pretty good.Well, we all have something we're good at. So do you feel like playing allthose other sports? Growing up and learning all these other differentskill sets helped you with golf because we know today that a lot of kids justplay kind of one sport. Do you feel like multiple sports really helped yoube better in Gulf. Oh, no question. I think, uh, there's alot of parallels and a lot of things you can draw from other sports thatthat just help your hand eye coordination and help your, um, youknow, muscle tone and everything else. But, you know, you got a lot of guysthat are really great athletes that, uh or that a really good athletes I shouldsay that play golf. Now, Dustin Johnson is known as being a great golfer if yougo back in the day. Um, you know Russ Cochran? He's left hander. Um, he wasan all state basketball player in Kentucky. Now, you know, if you're abasketball player in all state in Kentucky, you're really good. Andactually, we played a pickup game 11 day the tournament of Byron Nelson, andand he was ridiculous how good he was. But there's a lot of guys that arereally good at sports. Thanks. Sorry I was getting delivered. And whatdo you My breath. Yeah. There you go. There. Yeah. Yeah. You're a little bitbehind us here. Um, yeah. So you know, one of the things for me because Ialways focused on football. Um played multiple sports my whole life. Thenwhen I got to college, just focused on football. Only you would play some ofthe other sports on the side. But I always felt like everything enhanced mygame a little bit. When you got to the college ranks, I know that you went toeMaryland and you went to community college and came back to Maryland. Yousaid you were a late bloomer. What was that transition like from high schoolto that college aspect for you? Well, it was funny because I was a good,good high school player, but I wasn't a great high school player, and I go toeMaryland my freshman year and we go toe. At that time, they had a golf coachnamed Dave Ziegler, and he had a really good team. He had to all American,honorable mention guys on the team that were one and two, and then they had.They had some depth, but I was plenty good enough to make the team, but Ididn't they we had 12 rounds of qualifying and he kept 12 guys and Ifinished 13th. I made a e Think I made like an 11 on this part Three numbertwo on the second last round and I just hit it left in the dry creek and I egot I went to commit to it and I just couldn't get out of the daggone thing.And I ended up missing by one. And then I ended up not having good grades. So Iwent to PG Community College and we had a great team there. We ended up havingI just call him all the derelicts. I was one of the derelicts, but all thenumber one golfers, for whatever reason, ironically showed up at PG CommunityCollege for two years there and we went...

...from just a scrub p g county, uh,community college golf team, Thio World national ranking team. And we went tothe nationals both years and and then I went back to Maryland, and I was toptwo players on the team from the last two years. And then I went broke on themini tour in 1981 went belly up, came back. I was working manpower in January,cleaning out this burned out warehouse and and actually December of 81 reallycold and my coach got promoted Thio assistant a D, and he offered me tocoaching job and that's how I ended up coaching because I just want to get outof that warehouse. So I did. I did that until I got on tour in 89 but duringthat time as a club pro and the golf coach, my game really progressed. Ikept qualifying as a club pro for PGS and US Opens and and making the cutsand that I just made me realize I'm better than I thought. I waas and Ireally just wanted to see how good I could get. And if it was good enoughfor the PGA Tour great and if not, I wanted to know I gave it a shot and Icould live with myself that that point, Um, if I had not made it, but I end upmaking it in 89. I did lose my card that first year, went back to Q schooland got it back and never had to go back to school. So I rolled that into aa really good career. Overall. When I look back. You know, there's times Iwish, uh, I did things a little different, and I believe in myself alittle more. I think I would have played a little better a times. Um, butat the same time I looked at it, I overachieve, So it's kind of, uh,cheese. I don't know. It's a two edged sword on that. Where in one hand, Ireally feel great about my career and I over achieved and other ones. I feellike I could have done better. Um, but I don't regret anything. It was It wasa great ride, A lot of work. Um, but I really enjoyed it. It was It was fun.Well, it sounds like you're still on that ride, that journey, because, youknow, you're you're still playing and you're still doing things in the golfgame. It's similar to it. Sounds really like my journey in a little bit whereI'm 1/7 rounder. There's a first rounder taking in front of me. I get toplay my rookie year. You don't really, you know, you know, you can play thegame. You know you love the game, but you know you're not you know you don't see the peoplesurrounding you like a first round pick. It's surrounded by people around them,so there's a little difference there. And you always wonder. Well, can I playthis game and you have that little doubt. And then as you get going and Isay the same thing you say, I wish I knew then what I know now. It wouldhave been totally different game for me. Um, eso you just grow up and you move.I move from team to team and got better...

...as I went. And it sounds like that wasa lot of your career. You got better and better and better. And then youstart believing that when you see Funk up there with all the other ones in thetops, it's just normal now and you're ready to go. Yeah, your goals changed and you knowwhen you first get out there. After I lost my card, my goal was just keepyour card. And then when I kept my card, I felt like, Well, let's try to get top100. And then it was top 70 which was a big deal. Top 70 gave me a little morestatus. Top 60 gave you. Ah, little more status for the invitationals. And,like Colonial on Hilton Head and mere field and things like that. And thentop 50 rolled out into that meant a lot in the world ranking, if you could getthere. Um, so it was money list. We're ranking points. And then at the end ofmy career, when, uh or near my the end of my regular tour career from 40 42 Iplayed my best cough, and most guys don't do that. So that was my windowwhere I really played. Well, uh, fortunately was during a tiger era whenthe person's went way up and, ah, lot of people benefited when Tiger showedup. Uh, where the person is just that's what huge and eso my goals were to makeTop 30 and then try to make Ryder Cup Presidents Cup and and I feltcomfortable doing that. And then I made, um, two Presidents Cups and one RyderCup, which I mean, golly, if you go back in my childhood and somebody saidI was gonna play the PGA Tour, I would say, Yeah, that's Bs. And then, uh,they said you're gonna make the Ryder Cup team say that will never happen.But it all happened and and Yeah, that was that was pretty cool toe representyour country. And to make it to that level in the in the sport. And that wassomething I look back on. I still get goose bumps and pinch myself over, right? Yeah, I hear you. I mean thatget into the playoffs. Student things that I've never thought I would do is akid. When you see the pictures of yourself as a kid and you got a helmetand shoulder pads on and you're you're 10 years old and saying, Yeah, I'mgonna play in the NFL, I'm gonna be a Steelers someday And then you get to doit. It's it's it's kind of insane. One of the things I wanted to ask you wasCan you explain to our fans and our audience a little bit about the inbetweens of tournaments? And because that's one thing a lot of people Ithink they're curious about, Like what? What? That aspect is for you. So do youhave to like, uh, ensure that your caddy gets to every tournament, Are youor do you just pay them and then you're flying? Is is that usually? I mean,this whole world is different because it's a new tournament every week wherefootball, You know, everything's taken care for us. Do you have somebody totake care of everything for you? You got to do a lot yourself. You do everything yourself, yourindependent contractor. So you go and you pick the tournament. You wanna play?And you could do that. You take care of your travel unless you have a teamaround you. My team was my wife, and she helped schedule a lot. But I was aguy that played a lot. So I was, um e...

...was I would go out on the road 68 weeksat a time and, uh, try to figure somewhere in that, uh, 6 to 8 weeks, Iwas gonna play good. I could never really say I was gonna prepare and getready for the U. S Open or the Masters or something like that or a major. Andjust say I know I'm gonna play good that week is like, I'm gonna getprepared and hopefully I'm gonna play good somewhere in that that streak andthen I would just get tired, go home for a week or two. The caddies air ontheir own. They they show up and they're independent contractors to you.Just pay him a salary and a percentage of whatever you make and hopefully thatyou have a good bag and they can make some good money, too. And, yeah, it'sjust, uh it's a small little team, although nowadays the team's air, someof them are huge. You look at the when the Asians came, especially from Japan,when they were rocking and rolling. Um, and they have, uh, mother Chicago cameout and Shigeki Maruyama back in the day, and and Jumbo Ozaki and guys likethat way back, uh, they were huge names, and they would just bring this wholeentourage with him and filming everything. They'd be on the rangewould be a coach or trainer, nutritionist, translator on and on andon, taking care of them and making sure that they could navigate around thecountry because a lot of them didn't speak really great English. When theycame over, they learned on the fly. Yeah, you seem to be. Have you everplayed with people that don't speak English Very well, because you seem tobe a very social person on the course. Like where you're always cheering yourwhoever you're playing with, you seems like you're cheering them on. Youhaving a good time. But you're also laser focused, and not a lot of peoplecould do that. So when you play with somebody that is like that, it was thatharder for you. Uh, no, no, it was it was fun to, umusually the Caddy. Somebody would have a little bit of English in him. But Iremember one story we're playing. I was playing a match player, were LaCostaAnd I had Shigeki Mariano on the first match and no, not sure, Jackie, I'msure KJ Choi from South Korea and first told she KJ hits it to about 3 ft andit was pretty much a gimme. But I'm walking up to the green and I'm talkingto my caddy and I just said, You know, I really want to give it to him, but itjust I gotta make him. But it's the first spot and my caddie goes up on ashe's walking on the green, he just yell So KJ could hear him says, Hey, Fred,you should give it to him He's from South Korea, not North Korea and JJ JJlaughing so hard, I went. You understand English, that's good. And hesaid, very little, very little. But he understood that, though. Eso I rememberback to when my first time I got to...

...play it was that in the IndianapolisI'm playing, there's all these fans out there going crazy. What was the firsttime you remember where you walk out? You're getting ready to tee off on thefirst tee. You know, you've been thinking about this. You've been on therange, you know these things, and then all of a sudden it's just lined up thewhole way down. Like for me. That would be nerve wracking. Now you get used to playing in front ofpeople. Um, they just become a blur. Um, that's not that big a deal. A DeLong's.You're hitting it straight if it's when the people are, uh, lining up when youhit a shot in the trees or something and they create that tunnel and thenthey're all leaning out like looking at the shot. Andi, I usually would justget around. So, Hey, guys, I didn't get in here by hitting it that straight.You gotta back up a little bit, so you know, that that made you a littlenervous. But, um, I always enjoyed playing Tiger and Phil and guys likethat that that really, uh, brought an atmosphere with him. It was really cool. I couldn't imagine. I mean, I would beNow, I've played in a couple of programs where there weren't that manypeople. I'm not a great golfer. I'm about a 10 handicap. I just go out andhave a lot of fun. It's just a game, especially a lot of playing with myson's. Um Now your son is currently playing. Yeah, my son, uh, the 25 year old istrying to get on tour. He's really good. He played for University of Texas, and,um, he's got a lot of power and speed, and really, he's got the skill set. Hejust whether he makes it or not, I don't know. Hopefully, Yeah, well, at least he has. Dad hassome experience that can give him some pointers. right. Do you have youcaddied for him yet? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We've caddy form and weplayed together, and, uh, they gave us both a spot of Bermuda last year. Andthis year on the regular tour. And then, um, this year we actually got pairedtogether, and I made the cut, and he didn't on. I wanted him to make the cut,but I ended up making the cut and and they said I was the fourth guy. At age64. It was Sneed, Watson and Nicolas that have made the cut. So I went Wow,that's I never heard him. Yeah, but that's pretty good group of guys ofbeing. Yeah, it was. It was pretty good. Have you ever had that dad moment whereyou know where you're You tell your son. Hey, maybe you should hit this. Andthen he gives you that that kind of stink eye side Look like my kids do andsay Okay, Dad, I got this. Just leave me alone. Well, his game is totally different inmind. He literally I'm not as long as I used to be, but I was never long, Buthe is 70 yards in the air longer than me. He flies a 320 yards at sea level.He's Dustin Johnson long, so he's got a whole different and the modern game issomething I don't. You know, I can't even relate to it. Zafon to watch. Butthese kids all hit it a long way. They hit it pretty straight. Its's adifferent game, like all the other...

...sports has become. Speed and power. Yeah, it's amazing how far some of themare hitting the golf ball now. I mean, I loved your interview where you talkedabout. We just kind of learned our swing and ever whatever worked, worked.Right now, today, everybody seems so robotic. They've been in, you know,it's just like quarterbacks, right? They all learn how to throw the ballfrom the time they're little. I never learned how to really throw the ball to.I was a senior in high school and we ran the winky offense. So it seems likethe guys today. Do you think that why they're hitting it so far is because ofthat kind of robotic like play that they have? Well, they they're functional trainingnowadays. They're they're training their bodies. Uh uh. They're allfinding out what works for them. They all do it a different way, but they'veall figured out how toe generate a lot of speed. A lot of lag, a lot of, uh,rotation. Um, I don't know where they're going to go. Longevity wise onthat's the test of time because the body in the back is not really meant.Toe, Take that kind of torque over and over and over. Mines shot. Last fouryears, my back has been really bad, and I don't even have a violent golf swing.But you know, these kids nowadays they're really talking and wrenchingtheir bodies. And and it's just overuse constantly turning, hitting balls. Youhit thousands and thousands of balls and it just wears on you wears on yourjoints. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're not even gettingplastered by a £300 linemen, so no e can't imagine you're you'regoing one. Women are coming the other way. It's not not a good combinationthere. That isn't. That isn't so, Fred, Tell us what you're doing today andwhat you're into today. Well, you mean as in the golf course?Yeah, you have. You have your golf course. You're still playing. Are youon the tour Champions Tour? And then also, I know you're involved incharities. Yeah, I'm still trying to play. I'm notreally, um, competitive Right now, my back has been really bad. I had oneoperation, but I need a They say I need a fusion, and I just don't want to doit because one fusion leads to another, and I'm scared to death of that. Infact, I just had a memory last week and it showed my bottom two levels in mylumbar shot. Eso I'm don't know what to do there, but, um, I'm still trying toplay on the Champions Tour, and I'm trying to get three or four more yearsout of me. And then, um, I still do charity work a lot with any any of theveterans groups. I have a family of the fallen seals, folds of honor and prettymuch anything to do with the military. I love the military and our firstresponders or police environment. So I try to do anything I can for them. Um,and...

...with the game of golf in the platformthat gives you It's really cool that, you know, you could go out there andhave, ah, a great charity day and raise a lot of money and everybody have agreat time and you can't really do that in other sports because you certainlycan't jump on a football field with football players and have a scrimmageagainst them. They'll kill you and, uh, or any other sports. So golf has reallybeen a great game to raise a lot of money and and, um, and have a platformwhere you could draw people in and and for different causes, which, you know,charity for kids. There's there's not a bad charity out there and it's it'sreally neat. And then the golf course we're doing, um, out here in Coloradois is so much fun. We have a great piece of land. It's called Rain Dance.The golf course. Um, uh, it's gonna be a high in public golf course. It's somuch fun to design is something I've always dreamed of doing a bucket listthing and and I'm just having a ball doing it, and we're out here in thewinter time. They've had such a uh, not much snow here in this part. So we'vebeen able to move dirt. Uh, since we broke ground about six months ago andit's been fantastic. What is your design style? Is it Rocky?Is it water? Is it more sand? Is it? You know, what is your design style?What do you like? Well, the style habit. I'll, uh, the land dictated what we'regonna dio on what we're doing. But my idea is I do not like, um, really deepfairway bunkers. I hate that. When designers put these deep fairwaybunkers and the best players in the world, much less the average guy hitsin and they can't get out of the daggone things. They just got a hit, awedge to get it back and play. And, um, try to get it to the green and save parsomehow. But they're high maintenance, so I don't like that. And I don't likemobile fields on the green. This golf course is demanding a really big bigfairways and rather large green because it's, uh, pretty severe with theseArroyo's all around it and are all on it. And we're going around and over allthese Big Arroyo's, which were just big erosion ditches, uh, have been therefor thousands of years. Beautiful piece of land, not a three on it. And it'sjust it's fantastic. It'll be one of the best courses in the country. Yeah,I live in Oakmont P. And I've played Oakmont Country Club a few times, andyou talk about, you know, fairway bunkers and and having a chip out a lot.You know, that's a tough course. It's a lot of fun to play, but it is a toughcourse. Eso I'm excited. What was the name of the course again? You'rebuilding rain dance, Rain down. That's a great name. Yeah. It was the name of the land thatwas on the topo map. Yeah. And I said, Ben, I saw that name on the topo map.So that's what we're gonna call it. I love that. That name. Yeah, that's agreat That's a great name. So, you know, you're doing amazing things. You'rehelping the, You know, our veterans are...

...first responders. You're doing a lot ofthose things. So those charities, how can people follow you? Do you have awebsite that people can go to to kind of help you with your charities oranything that you're doing. Yeah, The folds of honors is one families of theFallen seals Warrior Foundation. Uh, anything to do with the police? I justlove our police and fireman. We need them and, you know, this day and age,and I just don't know why. You know, if there's always bad apples, You know, Iget on the, uh, shoe box here and our soap box where you want to call it. And,uh, but, you know, you're always gonna have bad apples, no matter where youare in life. But, uh, overall, you know, we This is a crazy world we need. Weneed him. So, uh, just tired of hearing everybody demonize our our veterans andour policemen. Yeah. You know, I'm with you on that,and, you know, there's good and bad and everything you you look at and you seetoday and you know, and I I just think it's that way and anything that thatyou dio um and it's always been that way. It always will be that way. Whenyou when you hope that something is good, there's always somebody whocreeps up and makes it bad. But, you know, when you get those things out,you need the good people around to take care of all that. So, um, one lastquestion for you, Fred, there's a big game coming up this weekend, and Iwanted to get your take on the Super Bowl and, uh, who you think's gonnagonna end up holding that trophy? Well, the the quarterback battlesPhenomenal. I I'm a big fan of the homes. I think Mahomes is just so good.He's gonna go down if he doesn't get injured, is one of the bestquarterbacks of all time. And obviously, Tom Brady is maybe the best quarterbackof all time, and it should be a really great Super Bowl to watch those two.But, uh, and the teams are really good. And the story I'm, uh I'm gonna berooting for Kansas City. Uh, Tom Brady has enough. Um, but it's neat to watchhim. I I think Tom Brady, if he really wanted to complain 10 more years asquarterback, if you look at the Belichick's Belichick and Bradyscenario, whether you know, they say Brady was so good because of Belichick.I'm starting to think that Belichick was so good because of Brady, butobviously they were both really good together, and he's good. He made everyteam. He made the Tampa Bay Buccaneers really good. Um, it's amazing. And theygave him some talent where he can, you know, hand the ball off and he can. Hehas some receivers, and there's giving them good protection. And as you know,I think no matter how good you are is a quarterback. You better have a wall infront of you and, uh, to protect you a little bit. And he's doing a great job,so it should be a great game. But I'm a Kansas City fan for a week. Well, I know that when I go in thelocker rooms and there's a big golf...

...tournament on, the guys will bewatching it in the locker rooms in football. So when you guys were in thelocker room and there's a big football game, are you guys watching? Thefootball game is well all the time. Yeah, especially, uh, when you go atthe Sony and they have the you know, that time of year you have the collegeplayoffs going on and everything that that's really fun. And then you get youknow, this time of year with the Super Bowl in the NFL playoffs going on. So,um, well, you get the college bowl games going on, and then you got theNFL going on when you're out there on the West Coast and and in Hawaii alwayslove getting up early in the morning and and watching the games, because thetime difference is kind of fun instead of being the East Coast guy most of mylife and they come on so late. But yeah, it's fun to watch. It's the one sport Imake sure I I still watch a lot. I love college football and I love NFLfootball. Still not a big fan of MBA right now, but that's another story. Ehockey. I didn't enjoy the free. I did enjoy their bubble because it was onall the time. I thought they did a good job last year with that and got thewatch a lot of games and it was the full go every game. Whereas now duringthe regular season seems like they take time off right on bond kind of get lazy,but in that system, and they were going at it hard, but yeah, I reallyappreciate you. I'm gonna let you get going. Get back to your course. I knowyou want to create something beautiful that everyone could go out and play outin Colorado. Don't Don't miss Fred, you know, and go check out. Of course.When's it gonna be ready? Well, open July of 22 will be seatedthis summer, and it's really gonna be something else. So they'll be, umthey'll be certain little documentaries. You can tap in if you look up WaterValley or you look up rain dance out here in Colorado, something should popup. And we're kind of documenting all the stuff we're doing out here duringthe whole process of building it and opening it. And it'll be reallysomething special. Not because of me, but because of the land. And the andthe owners is putting whatever we want done. He's allowing us to do so. It'sreally something else. Well, deep pockets always make thanks alot of fun. Right s Oh, yeah. I wish you all the best. I wish you health.Yeah, I wish you health and happiness. And I wish your son the best of luckHopefully gets on the tour. And there's nothing more than a father would dreamof playing in a big championship together with the sun. So hopefully,maybe you guys get Yeah, he really Yeah, that's great, Gus. And also, if e thinkyou'd be a good conversation to have, even though my son's not on any tourright now, um, but to talk to him on how hard it is to get out there andwhat he's going through and what these kids are going through. The competitionso high and and the level of play is so good and the spots where so few thatit's just difficult to find that edge to get over the top. But it be a neatconversation to hear his perspective. I think so. If you ever really want to dothat, we can set that up easily, and I...

...think it would be an interestingconversation for a lot of people out there that air wondering what it's likethat what guys were going through to try to not only get on tour, but evento stay on tour. I'd love to have that conversation with him because I thinkit's really interesting. You know, people ask me about the NFL all thetime, how hard it is, and it's extremely hard. I'm sure that Gulf,it's the same way we watched the same guys on son, you know, when they'replaying in the tournament, Thursday through Sunday and nobody watches thebottom, 100 100 or so that that struggle to get there right and youdon't know those stories. But it is a difficult thing, and I'd love to havehim on to hear about that. Yeah, it's a different perspectivebecause you're seeing the guys. It's really fun toe, learn what the guyswere going through. They're just trying to figure out how to help to get outthere and and then how to stay there. And it's It's very, very difficult. Youknow what the average career in the NFL is three years, something like that.People don't realize that it Z if you have a long career in the NFL, that'svery rare and the long careers 10 or 12 years, Um so you know that za violentgame and The great thing about golf is you can play for a long time, but it'sjust so the competition is so hard. Well, yeah, mine gets hard because of afew beers and guys I play with, Like to bet. So that gets the only reason itgets hard for me. But, uh, but I appreciate it. Um, you know, good luckwith everything, and we'll be watching it. And I really want to thank you forjoining us on. Huddle up with gusts today. You gotta Gus. Thanks, buddy. Hi. This is former NFL quarterback GusFrerotte telling you that 16. 31 Digital news is your daily source foronline news content featuring national and international stories on news,politics, entertainment, sports and lifestyle. Log on today at 16 31digital news dot com.

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