Huddle Up with Gus
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Duff Goldman Charm City Cakes

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Joining the Huddle this week is Duff Goldman. Duff is a chef and artist known for his dazzling, creative approach to food and his fantastic stories describing the simple science of baking. Duff starred on the hit Food Network show Ace of Cakes, set in his bakery, Charm City Cakes. He now has cake studios in Baltimore and Los Angeles. You can watch Duff bake and decorate on Food Network’s Duff Takes the Cake and mentor bakers on Kids Baking Championship. Duff believes we can discover our inner creativity and celebrate with each other through the fun of baking!

Duff played hockey and football in High School and went on to play Hockey and Lacrosse at College. Sports helped Duff understand the meaning of teamwork, and he is an incredible Captain and leader for his company. 


Check out all that Duff is doing on his website.

http://www.duff.com

Hey everyone, Welcome to another episode of huddle up with Gus, I'm your host, former NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte and welcome to the new 16 31 digital new studio. You know, some people say no news is good news. Well I say to those people you've never read. 16 31 digital news dot com. Go to 16 31 digital news dot com to get your latest news, sports, music and entertainment and maybe even listen to your favorite podcast. Follow up with gusts. Check it out today at www. 16 31 digital news dot com. Welcome to what surely will be a doozy of a matchup brian here. Sports fans, whether your game is on the gridiron at the diamond or on the links, we can only say, yeah, welcome to this week's huddle up with gusts. 15 year NFL quarterback Gus parents, passion for sports has taken him on the field and behind the bench is Playing for seven NFL franchises with 114 TVs under his belt. Gus knows who the players are and how the games are. one. Uh, it's not every day you get to hang out with an NFL Quarterback up. Okay, sports fans from the decked out and plush 1631 digital studios, it's kick off time, so snap your chin straps on and get ready to huddle up with us two left. Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Help with Gus, I'm your host, Gusts for about 15 year NFL quarterback. I want to welcome you to the 16 31 digital news studio. Also want to thank my team, Terry Shulman Ian, Kiss brian, the super producer and joe Corbi. We want to thank him obviously and we want to thank Sounder FM, one of our new partners. So Sounder FM. Thank you uh for letting us put our podcast on your platform. And then we also want to thank Vegas Sports advantage, sports betting. Go there, check, check them out with Vegas sports advantage, sports betting. They've been really increasing people's value and numbers, so check them out in Vegas sports betting advantage um dot com. So everyone, what a guest today, it's a little different than what we normally do, but I'm really excited. You guys would know him from, you know, his, his bakery in Maryland, charm city cakes, but also, you know, he's also used uh uh television extremely well. You you know him from ace of cakes, um duff, it sounds like that you were born in Detroit, you moved all over and ended up in Virginia now you're in Maryland, but uh welcome to huddle up with Gustav Goldberg from charm city cakes. How are you doing today buddy? Doing great. How about you guys? I'm doing wonderful. You know, I was looking through your bio and checking everything out and I was just wondering, does kind of every chef or wannabe chef start out at like a Mcdonald's sometime in their life and and it's a fry cook, I mean, you know, every, you have to start somewhere, you know, and I think that, you know, starting at a place like Mcdonald's like, you know, I think when you say that, like, you know, you think of like, you know, I've worked in some of the best restaurants in the world, you know, I've had a pretty crazy career. Um and when people hear that my first job was Mcdonald's, they kind of like laugh at that thing is Mcdonald's like, they really like, they, you know, it's a low paying job they're taking, you know, young kids that don't really have a lot of experience and they're teaching them how to be like, you know, members of the team and it kind of like for me was the perfect first job. It's like, all right, you are an idiot. You don't know anything. We're gonna teach you how to work in a restaurant. Okay. Less than one shave before you come to work, make sure your uniform is clean. Make sure there's like the right amount of ice in every single coke. You know, like stuff like that. You know, Like you cook the fries for 2:47. That's how long you cook them. Um you know, and I think that when you work in like a nicer restaurant, they assume that you have that like all that stuff kind of down. So it's a great first place. I mean, it's like, you know, you take a JV football player and you put them on a pro team, you know the protein is going to want to teach a kid like all right, you know what I mean? Well and you know usually when you're a Mcdonald's and the general manager there is not going to shoot you out for making a mistake because he knows you're young. But if you go to a nice restaurant and make mistakes, that head chef can get kind of honoree sometimes, I mean I've I know a lot about it, my good buddies a chef, so uh I've seen him in action. Yeah, I've been I've been chewed out before, I'm sure you've done your share of that. I tried to you know, I take a different approach, you know what I mean? I really try to you know try to lead by example and you know when...

...people make mistakes, you know, I try to you know, help them understand why it was a mistake in the first place and then, you know what I mean? Like instead of being like, oh my God, you know, you you messed up this case, what's wrong with you? I'm like, okay, so here's here's what I think you're doing wrong, let's fix this, you know what I mean? I find that like, you know, like in a lot of kitchens, like, you know, like professional kitchens, it's a very high pressure places moving real fast. You know, you got people out in the dining room or waiting for their food, you don't have time to be nice when you're decorating wedding cakes, you have a little bit more time. And most of the people that work for me, or I went to art school, you know, most of them have culinary kids and so it's a it's a it's a different style of management. Yeah. You have a little more timely. It is frantic in the kitchen when you're like, I worked at my chefs, my buddy's restaurant and my kids worked there with me through Covid and you know, he had to let everybody go. We were just helping him out and we, you know, he didn't really do any kind of take out before that. He was a pretty nice restaurant and then we did take out and when it would get busy, it's like, it's crazy. And then for me, the crazy part was like cleaning up at the end, I was like exhausted. I'm like, he's like, we gotta clean up now and I'm like, uh what? That's the hard part. So No, that's awesome. But let's get back to you growing up. I know you grew up in different places, but tell me what kind of role did sports play in your life and you have a memory of like when you fell in love with it. Yeah. You know, so I played a played football and lacrosse in high school and lacrosse and ice hockey in college and yeah, yeah, good sports. You what I mean? Like you know, lots of lots of hit and you know, lots of, yeah, those are good crossover sports for for both. Yeah, definitely. Like lacrosse and ice hockey, you know, very, very sort of similar. I mean on my high school lacrosse team, bunch of the ice hockey players played on that team. We had a bunch of the ice hockey team was also all across in college. Uh and you know, it was like there's something like, I don't know like, like those kinds of sports I thought were really good. Like just for me, like I am not a good athlete, right? It's just, it's not like I'm not like a naturally gifted athlete. I was never the star of the team. I was never, you know, and in college I never scored a goal, not a single goal. You know, it wasn't really my job. My job is kind of hit people. You were a defenseman in lacrosse. Yeah, Christie had a long pole. Yeah, big long pole called it six ft of paint. Yeah. My son did to my son, both my sons played lacrosse and hockey. So yeah, it's a great sport. But I feel like, you know those sports were like, I think they were really good for me just in that like, you know, they teach you how to like you have people rely on you, you know what I mean? Like, you know, if if I'm dropping my cover, I'm letting the whole team down, you know what I mean? It's not like I'm not just let myself down and I think it's sort of like team sports are really great for stuff like that. Yeah, I think everyone should should play them. Because when you get into kind of real life, as I always say, you know, where you're out working and you become part of a team, there's there's trust, there's like you said, you can't let somebody down, you have to rely on your teammates because you can't do it. All right. I had to rely on my left tackle or my garden, my alignment or my receivers. Any of them screwed up. The play wasn't going to work and it's probably no different for you now. And so I think team sports gives us a good opportunity to learn those skills. Yeah. And then you look at the kitchen kitchens are really set up like teams, I mean they were like you are a team just like you were in high school and college you know and like there's something to be said for like just learning how when you're young like you know learning how to lose like as a team but also as an individual like learning how to deal with like you know failing I think is really really really important because a lot of times you know I feel like this is something I think you know all sort of middle age old guys are saying I was like people need to learn how to lose right? And like kids like like now like I really don't understand like look man, you know like you know like you know you hear it all the time where like everybody gets a trophy right? I really believe in that. Like look, if you win, you win. If you lose, you lose and you have to learn how to do that, you know? And it's really, I think it's really important because like nobody wins all the time, you just don't, you know, and like the people that can get like the people that are really successful really understand how to fail, you know? Yeah, Yeah. Well you have to understand how to fail to come back from that. And you know, one of the things that a lot of people on my show talk about is when we were kids, we'd go out into the backyard, we'd go out and play with our friends, there's no coaches, no parents and you know, you learned how to win and lose and you just sometimes it got...

...heated, but you walked off together afterwards and everything was okay and you came back the next day and you played, I think kids miss a little bit of that because everything is so organized now in sports. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's like just like watching out, you know, I mean, I have a, you know, we were just talking and have a daughter. She's, she's actually five months yesterday and like I really like sports, you know, thanks, thanks. You know, but I wanted like, I know what sports did for me and I really wanted to play sports, you know, and I want to play team sports, but like I wanted to also sort of play like, I don't want to be that guy, you know, And I think like parents are just, they're like, we're taught now to be so freaked out all the time. Like there's a boogeyman around every corner and there's, you know what I mean? Like you got to walk with the thing and the safety and the this and the surveillance and like you put the thing on the phone so you can always see where they are. I don't want to know where she is, I want her to be able to grow up and be a little more self reliant, you know? Yeah, you know, it is kind of strange because like all the kids, my kids are older now, they're 26 20 gonna be 24 22 so they're all older, but you still as a parent, like you still want to know what they're doing and, and sometimes they were like, okay dad, it's more of my wife, my wife's like more like, okay, what are they doing? Let's find out. But um you know when they're little, you just kind of want them to try everything that was me as a parent, we wanted them to try every sport, find out something you love to do, and then go like my daughter played field hockey and lacrosse and she was a goalie, she hated the run, so we're like, okay, find something that you don't have to run, you know? So she played goalie goalie, it was it was perfect, but he's kind of yeah, she had a little bit of that intensity, like, like, you know, she would come home from lacrosse practice and should have these bruises all over from, you know, the girls, because the girls don't really know how to shoot, they're just throwing the ball at the net and she's just getting drilled and I'm like, put bigger pads on, she goes, no we're not, I'll do that, you know? And I'm like, I would not be standing in there and having just crazy people throwing those lacrosse balls at me, you know? That goes, those goals are nuts. Yeah, You take one off to shin that can't feel good. Yeah, but you got a long way to go, you got a long way to go. So I'm excited to see. I'm sure she's going to be uh at some point she's going to be a really good uh cook as well. So I think that's, you get a lot of bonding, right? Like that's something like, because in sports, like I'm standing, I'm not the code from standing on the sidelines. I try to talk to her, but she didn't want to hear what I have to say, even though I played professional sports, but in the kitchen we have a lot of fun together that she loves to cook. Yeah. And like, you know, it's like, it's it's super fun, you know everybody can do it, you know what I mean? There's not really like, you know it's it's a different kind of activity, you know? I think with sports that's more like you know she's going to learn how to like take a ribbing, you know like she's going to learn how to like, you know like just you know, kids tease each other like that's what kids do, you know? I think that's another thing that people are like really freaked out about. Like I wanted to like you know, go get, go get teased, it's good for you and I'm thinking you know, they're a little thicker skin. Yeah, just not take yourself so seriously and like, you know like just you know, learn how to give it back, you know? I think it's always really important too. Oh yeah locker rooms are really good for that, right, locker rooms, you gotta, you know, if you can't give it back there tough place, so you learn how to like you learn how to take some punches, you learn how to give a few back, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's good, it's good to understand those things I think, you know, I think there's um you know, like I think there's sometimes there's a dearth of like that self reliance or just that inner strength of just being able to sort of like be your own person, you know what I mean? And know that like there are situations that you're going to encounter, that you're not so terrified of it, you know I mean like uh I don't know, like uh like everybody, I think a lot of people like really terrified to get punched in the face, right? Like that's something that people like, I mean, that sounds scary if you've never been punched in the face, it sounds terrifying, like somebody's gonna punch me in the face, like, oh, that's that's super scary. And then once you get punched in the face, you're like, it's not that bad. Well, I guess it depends, you know, it's like football, it depends who is hitting me. You know, if it's like a little linebacker, like, Yeah, it's not so bad, but £300 guy that runs a 46 it's a little worse. So you're in high school and you're playing sports, but then like, what was your path, like, when did the passion for baking cooking, being in the kitchen? What did how did that start for you? You know, I was actually I was still in high school and I was working at there was a pizza joint my senior year, that was kind of like all the like, like, like a lot of...

...like a lot of different athletes just kind of worked there. It was sort of like that like if you needed a job it was like I go work at the pizza place. I grew up in a real small town. And so uh yeah, it's great, right? You know, we had three stoplights. Yeah, we had Fox's Pizza, that's where everybody went. Yeah. Right, so the town of fronts called sandwich in massachusetts. So yeah, sandwich, pizza. Um you know, funny. And so uh you know, I was I was working there and I was about to go to college, I was going to University of Maryland, Baltimore County uh and my brother had driven up from uh he was going to James Madison time, I drove out to massachusetts to pick me up to then bring me to school. Like he was hanging out for a couple of weeks and we're gonna, he was gonna drive me, you know, we're going to go down to college together and he was going to drop me off. So, um, you know, he was, he came to the pizza joint and he came back in the kitchen and he wanted to steak and cheese sandwich. So I was like, all right, you know, I'll make you one. So we're just standing there and he's like leaning up against the fridge, we're just talking about whatever. And I got like the big chunk of stick and I put it on the flat top and I got the two griddle spatulas, the big ones, and I'm like chopping up the meat on my plate and while I'm doing it the whole time, I'm like talking to my brother and I realized I was like, wow, my hands are just doing this by themselves. Like I'm good at this. And it was like the first time that like, I really felt like wow, I'm like good at something and I like doing it, you know, I love food. And so that was the first time I was like, you know what I mean? I remember like the the second it happened, that's when I realized I was like, man, I think I want to go to culinary school and become a chef. Yeah, that's, that is awesome. So you, you go to University of Maryland Baltimore County. So like when you go there, but you know you want to be a chef and go on to culinary school, what do you take in class? What, what were your classes? I was a history and philosophy major. So we created an east asian history and ethics as well for some reason. I don't know why, but I think it was, you know, the thing about college that I really like what I got out of college was, it's not that I like learned who Epictetus was or you know what happened in the Tokugawa era of Japan. Right? But I did learn those things. But the thing I really learned was just like how to think and I learned kind of how to learn and like how to have a little bit of discipline and like all right, if there's something I want to know, I know how to sort of figure it out. You know, like there's resources in the world that if somebody wants to learn how to build a cabinet or change an air filter or you know, uh you know, learn what the local tax law is. You can go find that information and I think like the thing about college was that it really just kind of teaches you how to think you know like I feel like you know with philosophy and history like I read a lot a lot of books a lot of writing and all the stuff I think was really good for him because then later you know now I mean I've written a bunch of books and I have to do research all the time. I'm a judge on a lot of different shows and you know the field of baking and pastry is always changing and so you know it's like a lot of chefs are like you can kind of tell like when a chef came up by their style of cooking a lot of times like people sort of get stuck into sort of like one sort of era. But when you're on T. V. And you're like you know you're judging these things, people are bringing the newest thing to you and you have to know what you're talking about to judge it. You know I have to like the taste of it. Okay you did a good job, you didn't do a good job. If it's some weird technique I've never heard of. I don't know if you did a good job or not. I have no clue what kind of. So what kind of technology are you talking technology or just different Ingredients when you talk about this it's always changing. What do you what do you mean by that? So um a lot of time like it for a while in like the late 90s early 2000s it was definitely technology right? People were using lots of different stuff you know like it went from you know a saute pan and some fire to liquid nitrogen and all these like you know different powders and things that they would add and make gels and bubbles and like you know it's all molecular gastronomy stuff so you know you have to really keep up with that and then and it's still a thing people still do it not as much but there are like you know it was really really cool for a while to like you know do this really crazy scientific cooking you know but it was also like it got a little bit snooty and so it kind of died off but while people were doing that people learned some really cool things and people just sort of taking those techniques and they still applied to cooking today. Um But now I think especially with the rise of the internet social media, one of the things that you really have to stay on top of is what's happening in the rest of the world. Because now somebody could come with a desert, like,...

...you know, here's brigadier, Oh, it's like a it's like a fudgy thing that comes zil, you know, are like, here's a punchy, which is uh, Pittsburgh, they have punches. He is right. Yeah. They're like my brother, my brother in law calls on the softball sized treat. Yeah, like full of prunes. You know, like it's, you know, it's a weird thing. They fill them with everything up here. I mean, yeah, they're probably like 10,000 calories. A piece like one of those punches. These yeah, they made, they made them for all the, all the bollocks back in the day when we didn't have any money and they just fill them up and said, hey, you probably weren't going to eat the rest of the day, so here's here's something that will fill you up and keep you going, All the factory workers here in Pittsburgh, Yeah, you know, I get that, because, you know, everything has an evolution, even like the NFL on sports, things changed across, technology has changed. My good friend was an all american in college, I was in the Hall of Fame for Across, and he said, when we played, there was no pocket, like, you have to just learn how to, like, if somebody hit you, that ball was coming out, so you learn how to keep it away from them. Now, the pockets a little deeper, the rules change, and I'm sure it's the same thing, and it's amazing that you said, I could just imagine when you first started baking, like, you knew what was around you, you really weren't, you couldn't see other city states unless you went there and now you can see other countries, other kitchens, other, everybody's on the internet. So you probably learn exponentially, how does that relate to school? Like you think culinary schools are kind of doing that? Are they just kind of say this is what we teach and that's it. No, I mean culinary schools are they have to be on top of it. I went to the culinary Institute of America out in California. It's a fantastic school. But I mean, you know, go back all the time. I do demos and I do lectures and stuff for the kids. Like I have seen like how it has evolved is just incredible. When I went there, it was state of the art. When I look back at what I was learning in like in the lens of today, it's like the Stone Age. I mean it's amazing. It is amazing. But they really keep up and they really, they've had to um they've had to diversify to when I went there. You learn how to cook. Yeah, you learn now you are learning how to market yourself, you're learning about brands, you're learning about, you know, you're doing a lot, they're doing a lot more math. It's like it's really changed a lot and like the kinds of degrees that you can get now are just varied. I mean when I went there you got a degree in baking and pastry or you got a degree in culinary right? Sweet or savory right now they got you know, all kinds of different degrees and I mean, you know kids are really like now they have like real like a whole food science programs so like, you know you can go there and like maybe I don't want to be a chef. You know, maybe I want to design the perfect burrito, right? And this is where you learn how to do stuff like that. Like you know how like, you know when you go to like the Dorito factory, I mean like you know if you ever wondered why you eat the whole bag because those guys think Doritos has like they have like food psychologists that work for them and they figure out like the perfect crunch, the perfect thickness, the right like you know like tensile strength of a. That's crazy to really give you like the most satisfying crunch that they can. It's a really fascinating, fascinating uh field of study, but you can learn that stuff now. So yeah, culinary schools have definitely like kept up. Yeah. You know that that's very interesting. I think all like think about football right when we were growing up, you really only knew about like the guys on the field, right? That was the only part of football that anybody knew. And I've done um kind of field trips for people to say no, there's so many other jobs in football that you can be part of a football team, right? There's the trainer, the the strength coach, the coach, the general manager of the front office staff. Then there's like you said marketing and there's all these different and then there's data and analytics now that are just exploding. And so there's so many components and with the internet and everything, it's it's exploded like that. And it's amazing that they're very similar right? Because back in the day coaches just said We're going to run the ball, get 33 yards and a cloud of dust and then, you know, they started winging it and now we see what we get today. Like, guys are throwing...

...for 4000 yards every year. It's crazy. So I want to know what I always wanted to know was when you bake these, these cakes, right? And you're doing these shows and you're in competitions. What happens with the cakes? Like are they donated? You know what I mean? Because you're making these incredible things? Well, you know, it's funny like, you know, you've been around a lot of media, you know, you've seen plenty of film crews in your day. The film crews are like biblical plagues of Locusts where they just consume everything in their path. So all that food, like all those guys just eat that stuff, you can't really donate it because it's like a prepared food. A lot of times nations, you know, they've got to be, you know, they've got to be like seal, they gotta be in can't, you know, it has to be something that can, that's, that's not perishable. But for, you know, cake that we've been working on, they just, they just crush them. You know, they just crush it. Yeah. I mean I've watched so many of your shows and it's amazing to see the timeline and then all of a sudden it's like you guys are making this monster K I think you did Star Wars, right? Did you do a Star Wars one? Yeah. It's there just massive. There's all these components and parts and your team's working. Then they shove it into a half hour show on, on the network and it's like wait, that had to take way longer. Like the stress level had to be incredible. How do you get, how do you get your team to deal with the stress? You know, you're like a quarterback, you got to manage all these things and you know, they're all of a sudden something falls apart, There's a blitz and I got to figure out what to do. Um you know, my my strategy for like getting the best out of people is making sure that everybody is having the maximum amount of fun that they can um when, when you're enjoying yourself, especially in something kind of artistic like this, you know, and also like, you know, playing sports, I mean, you know, if you're out there and you're having a good time, like you're gonna be, you're gonna be having fun, you jump around the field, you know, you're tired and you catch the ball like, you know, you're gonna be laughing having a good time. You know, when you're frustrated and you've seen that, you know, I'm sure you have, when you're frustrated, you're not doing good work. You know, when you're, when you're, when you're mad, when you're, when you're, you know, you're all kind of nodded up inside, you're not doing your best work when you're really having fun, that's when you're really getting the best out of people and get the best out of yourself, because that's when it's effortless, right? When you're having fun, it just flows out of you, You know, it's like, it's like music the same thing, you know, when you're playing music, like, you know, if you're just sitting there and you're just focused on like, okay, a a sharp CC flat, you know, like it's gonna sound like that, but when you're like, when you're loose and you're enjoying it and you're hearing all the other instruments and you're just playing, that's when you get amazing music, you know? And so what I try to do is like, even though like everybody wants to win, right? And like I say all the time on television, I'm like, oh, I don't care about winning, like that's not why I'm here, I'm just trying to do. Yeah, I do. Of course I do. Everybody does, you know what I mean? Everybody cares about winning and losing. You want to win. Um And so you know what I try to do is I try to get everybody to not focus about winning and losing, but really having a good time because I know that like we are all just bad assets, right? We're all really, really good at what we do that. I know that if we're not thinking about winning and just having a good time and doing our best job and doing work that we will be proud of that will make us win because we're just that good, you know what I mean? And that's, it sounds a little cocky, but it's like that's the attitude you have to have, you know, for something like this, you know, like when you're competing and being judged in the arts, it's a, it's just a, it's a weird thing. It's a weird concept, you know? So you gotta be enjoying it, you know? Well, yeah, and you have to be you right, you can't be somebody else. Like when you're an artist, I think that you have to, you know, you can't say the judge wants to see this well no, you have to be you and if if you're not you, that's what the judges see. Like it shows in your work. I mean, I've watched a ton of those shows. I mean, I love to eat too. So I watched all those shows. So hey, everyone, we are talking with Duff Goldman from charm city cakes. We're gonna take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back. Yeah, uh huh. Hey, how come up with us listeners manscaped. Well, they sent me, uh, they hooked me up with a bunch of tools and formulations for their package, three point oh Kit. So you know, I want to show you guys what's in the perfect package. Right? We all think we got a perfect package, but they sent me the perfect package. Three point oh kid, I want to show you what they sent me. So it was crazy. It came in this great box. 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...lawnmower. Uh Use the code Gus Frerotte, save 20% and get free shipping and uh order some great manscaped products. Yeah. Uh huh. All right. Hey, when we're back on huddle up with Gus, we're talking with Duff Goldman from charm city cakes. We were just talking about competition and what he gets his team to do and how he gets them to perform so well, the other question I had for you death was, have you ever recruited an artist away from another group? Like, I think there, you know, because there's gotta be some amazing talent out there and and uh you know, I don't I don't know how that works, like I've uh Yeah, so uh so my first bakers in Baltimore and um you know, it's a pretty small town, right? You know, like it's not a huge city, and so, you know, there's a there's like, you know, there's there's town of people, there there's a fantastic art school. Um And that's where I was getting a lot of my employees there. It wasn't so much that I like, I poached anybody from another cake shop, but a lot of my employees were working at. There was a restaurant called the Golden West, Fantastic restaurant. Really good chef. If everybody's in Baltimore, go to the Golden West, fantastic food. But it was also where like kind of like what sandwich pizza was for me and my friends in high school. The Golden West was for kids that went to the art school in Baltimore. A lot of the kids that went to that school would work at the Golden West, it was just a place to work. And um so I know when I I found there was like a group of artists that I really, really liked and they were all fantastic and they were interning for me and I eventually hired them all and I think like in the span of like six months I think I took like five of this guy's employees and I went in there one time to eat and like you know he sat down and we were like hanging out, he kind of like let me have it like he was like man you know ha ha he keeps stealing my boys, he's like seriously man stop saying my point like he was like superman, it's like dude I didn't meet. Oh yeah, well I mean but you gotta get talent like for what you do and then the creations you make, you gotta have talent right? They got to and you've got to find it. Um And that has to be ongoing probably for you with all the new technologies and everything coming out today definitely. So tell me like just watching like cake decorators now, I mean like you know like back in the day, like during a tea cakes and like the mid two thousands like, you know, we were like, yeah, you know those guys are amazing and like, man, you see people now And it's like, we're like how they do that. I'm sure you've seen kids like that because you do kids baking shows and things like that, and you're like, this kid's incredible. Yeah, man, there was a kid, he was 12 years old and he made a a mosaic out of cupcakes. That was that looked like the mona lisa. Oh my God, 12 years old, man, I'm coming for me. It's like those guys that like, you ever see the guys, they take like Rubik's cubes and they'll like make the colors, you know? But then they'll make a whole like art out of them. And I'm like, how do you even think about, I don't know, they must have some algorithm on their computer unless their brain is just sure. I think a lot of it, you know a lot of it is uh to it's it's a form of muscle memory that like you know I mean some of it is straight out muscle memory a lot of times like with painting, you know when you're like using a brush in your painting, you know a lot of that is kind of muscle memory like when you're when you're piping you know with like um But then like you know sometimes like when you're when you're doing things that are like for example mosaics that you know look one way but then as you kind of step back you kind of sort of see what it is. Um A lot of that is sort of like a it's like a mental muscle memory sort of kind of understand like how pixels work. Yeah you can kind of see in pixels you know you can while you can you have to see the end result but you have to have a blank landscape like that's really difficult for me because I'm not an artist and I have a hard time with that, you know what I mean? Like I wasn't my my brain but you guys you have to see this whole when you're creating these incredible art sculptures um from things that I can go and eat, it's amazing. You have to be able to see it all and I think that's just that's just pretty amazing. You do have to see it but you have to have a good idea of what you want, right? And you know like you sketch it you know to try to get it down on paper so you can really kind of wrap your head around it. Sometimes you got to pull it out of...

...there and look at it before you can really see it. But the other thing you really got to do is you got to be flexible and you have to understand that a lot of times like this happens to me almost every single time I make a big cake, I have an idea of what I want and then we'll start building it and design problems will happen, or technological problems will happen. You know, we'll just, there's things that are like, oh, I didn't think about that, or I didn't think about like this thing and so we have to do is when you're creating these things, it's like really be flexible and be able to um you know, sort of say like, okay, uh this is what I wanted, it's going in that direction, but I feel like I might have to take a left turn over here because, you know, something's not working out and I have to be okay with that. And what it does is instead of forcing it, right? And, and just being like, nope, this is what I want, this is what it has to be when you're a little bit more flexible. You see that like things just have like a better key, They just flow, you know, you would make a great coach because there are coaches that coach in the NFL that say this is our offense and this is what I run, right? So then they recruit guys are good players, but they don't understand that offense and they don't fit in and they're trying to make a mold into that. And I've had coaches do that with me where I am like, I was a certain type of quarterback and I'd go, I went to the West Coast system and I didn't fit that great into their right. It was a lot different for me and it was like that, like they didn't want to bend, they didn't want to mold, you know, the one game we had to, we were behind by two touchdowns. So then I'm throwing these long passes down the field and everything, but the coaches who said, okay, when Gus gets in, this is how he plays and we got to go with his talents and his strength, everything felt better. You know, it's amazing how similar it is. Yeah, it really is. I mean, you know, and it's like, look, you know, you're like, instead of trying to force it, right if you're not, you know, a certain kind of quarterback, like, you know, if you're not going to be throwing out, but like, you know, you got a really great over the middle or some like that, you know, like, Yeah, like, if they're trying to force you to like, you know, either bomb it down the field or like, you know, like, be like a laser beam in there, if that's not your thing, then you're gonna force it and it's going to fall apart, you know what I mean? But when it's like, okay, this is what this guy is good at, go for it, you know, it's the same like in my in the shops, like, I have people that are really great painters, right? Some people that are really great sculptors, some people that are really good at like, photo realistic stuff and have some people that are really good at more abstract stuff and everybody can kind of do everything, but there's definitely people that have certain strengths. And so instead of being like, okay, you I know that you're a great sculptor, but I'm gonna make you hand paint this entire thing. It's like, I mean, yeah, that's been done. But there's other people that would be so much better if you've got eight months, I'll do it. Yeah. So, all right. So if you had to take a quarterback that's playing today and you had to bring them in to help you create a cake, who would you want? Like, what's your ideal quarterback? Like, I can see like, I mean, I've seen your shows, um and you kind of know how, I mean, every quarterback is different, right? Lamar? Jackson runs around, Kyler Murray runs around. You know, there's some guys are just drop back. So what quarterback would you want in your kitchen? Oh man. Um I don't know. I, I feel like I have to go with Lamar, right? And, and like not just because I love the Ravens and we're gonna win the Super Bowl this year, but I'm gonna have to go with Lamar because he is like a swiss army knife, you know what I mean? He can do so many different things and he really kind of understands like I just, I feel like he's just operating at a different frequency than most people. You know, like, I mean, you know, like, you know, his first season last year, like you kept hearing announcers when they would watch them. They're just like, it's like watching a cheat code. You know, I'm like Madden and it's like it really is. I mean he makes it look effortless, you know? And I mean, he's like he's making moves that like his running backs, like, I mean, you gotta teach me that, that was amazing. You know what I mean? Like I just, I just feel like he's like he sees like two seconds into the future or something. I mean it's just, he's an incredible, incredible athletes, right? And then you've got a guy like tom brady who never leaves between the tackles. But I like I grew up in massachusetts, you know, I graduated high school massachusetts, like, you know, I was supposed to really just love the patriots, but then I moved to Baltimore and the Ravens became a team and they just sort of, they became my team, right? The Ravens, you know that the year that they became a team. I was like, man, these guys got swagger. They are funny, I love these guys, they're...

...scrappy. I like, I'm a Ravens fan now and I just never wanted to like tom brady. I just, I was just like, I just never going to like him. I just, you sound like a person in Pittsburgh after this year. Like watching him when that super bowl with the bucks, like I'm like, you know what man, that he's amazing. He is just amazing, that guy. It's just incredible. Yeah. His mind works differently, you know, to be able to play that long, to understand the, the defense is to go into a brand new offense and to say that I'm going to accept what you want me to kind of b but here's what I know, here's what I like, it's what we were talking about earlier. They went in, Bruce. Arians has his own style, you know, And I think it just all, it took a while to work. It didn't happen right away because they weren't very good to begin the season, but you know, it kind of all fell in as part of it. Um brady does that a lot, you know like you know, it's like gets a shaky start, but like it doesn't matter like that's the thing. It's like, man, you can be, you can be playing the Patriots, you could be up by three touchdowns, maybe four minutes left. You are not safe. You are not safe. I know, I know, it was like, I mean I've played against them, everybody's played against them and they've all experienced the same things like please do not let tom get the ball with any time left on the clock or something. It's not gonna end well for us, right? Yeah, Right Roethlisberger, you know, it's the same thing like I hate saying because God, that guy frustrates me so good. But I tell you man, it doesn't matter what is happening down the field, when there is just there is like a certain way that he plants his foot and you know the game is over and you're like as soon as he puts his foot down there like uh football is so good, so frustrating. Um you know, I started my career in Washington which I loved. It was it was just so much fun back in the day. Um but you know when I think about what everything we talked about when there's all you like you can go to school for cooking, right? I went to, I played football in college, you go to you know you do all these things and then all of a sudden I go to professional level, which is what you are now and you don't really know how somebody's going to handle it until they're in the fire, you know what I'm saying? Like there's all these kids that tryout for the NFL every year and they don't make it like they go through pre season, they don't they all of a sudden they're in the game, they can't remember anything. Do you find out with sometimes with people that come in like there in the mix and you're like, it's just not working out. Yeah. Yeah and there's like, you know, you can kind of tell um like you know like you can sort of see it, you know like who's going to sort of be able to kind of deal with, you know the cooking industry and kind of who isn't, you know, but you definitely like, you know, you can you can have some kid who's a superstar in culinary school, right, culinary school is great and I went and I you know, I think that you know, anybody who wants to cook, you know it's a it's a good route to go, you don't 100% have to, but it's a good good way to go right, like you don't have to play in college to play in the NFL, but it's pretty get the NFL exactly like, you know, unless you're unless you're Mark wahlberg, you know right, you're just going to play somebody who played Yeah. Um But yeah, you kind of see like, you know like once when you get to like, you know once you get out of school and you get into the world you're doing it, it's totally different, right? I mean culinary school will teach you the sugar content of an onion, they will teach you 50 different ways to slice it and you know, 100 different ways to cook it, but until you get out in the real world and somebody hands you a sack of £50 of onions and says dice that, you don't know how to do that, you know what I mean? Like, you know? And so that's like that's there's there's a there's a big difference between sort of like the things you learn in culinary school and then the things you learn in the real world. And so like for me like I worked at a lot of restaurants before I went to culinary school, you know, I worked like like I said at Mcdonald's, I worked a lot of different fast food joints, then I worked in other places, I worked at like a breakfast joint, I worked at the pizza place. I worked at a fine dining restaurant in Baltimore actually to them. And so you you um like going into culinary school, I had the sort of the chops. So like the teachers like, you know that like they didn't have to teach me like all right, this is how you cut a strawberry, this is how you clean a melon, you know, or something like that. Like, you know, I already had all that knowledge. And so it just kind of helps because that way like, you know, when when you start getting into like, you know, the more advanced stuff, you you're you're ready for it. Well you don't have to think, right, That's what it's like being a quarterback when you have to think about what you're doing, it never turns out well when you can just play because...

...you know what you're doing, like second nature kind of things. It always goes better like for you, you probably and now you get all these things put in front of you don't even have to think. It's just like what you were saying about when you cooked that steak for your brother, right? The Hopi right? You just weren't even thinking you were just doing. Yeah, that's what I think. What makes people really good. Yeah. Like with judging like being on television now like, you know, it's like, you know, I can like, you know, I can taste something. I'm like, all right, there's I can taste there is too much baking soda or I can taste that you over mixed it or you know, I can feel you overmix it or you forgot the salt or this would be much better with cloves than cinnamon. You know, things like that like, you know, and that's things that like, you can't learn that school, you know, like you just like that just takes experience and it's like you just you don't really get that until you're older, you know what I mean? Like you have to just get that experience, you know, for years and years and years and years and really start to, you know, before you can you can kind of do that where you like that's how your brain works. Like, you know, I can taste something and I'll be like, all right, this is you know, this is what's in here, this is what should have been in here, This is what, you know, this is what's working, this is what it's a weird thing. Yeah. You know, I like what you're doing to what I've done, right, because I tell kids all the time, you just got to work hard and hopefully the best can happen for you. You know, is it the same because there's not There's not a ton of really well known baked bakers out there, there's a lot of people that try it, but you know what I mean? There's only 32 quarterbacks in the NFL every week, right? So there's not a lot of like, what do you, what advice do you give to people when they ask you? I'm sure you get asked all the time, what should I do? What advice would you give people like when people like, like a lot of sense, well, you know, I'd like to I'd like a career in television, you know, and I'm like, you know, the best way to get on television is to be awesome at something, right, be the best one that you can possibly be, be the best one in your city, you know, whatever it is, whatever you're doing, if you're a baker, if you're a cook, if you're you know whatever it is that you're doing be the best one you can and then if you know tv kind of like has its searchlight out and it's looking around then it might find you but if it doesn't find you you're still the best one of that thing in your city or the country or you know whatever I mean you know there's a there's a lot of bakers out there that are absolutely amazing you know much much better than me and like they're they're just like they're dedicated to the craft you know and that's what a lot of times like people that like if the desire is I want to be on tv that usually come coming from somebody a little bit younger right? It's not really something that like you know somebody who's had a little bit more experience would say because as you go through it and you're you're working in your craft and you're getting better at it and you're refining it and getting you know, finding more and more deeper meaning to what you're doing and when you're finding like real fulfillment in the execution of, of craft, you find that like, you know, like fame and notoriety and you know, all that stuff, you just don't really care about it as much, you know what I mean? Like, like for me it's a job and like I like you know and I mean that in a good way, like I treat being on tv like I treat decorating a cake or baking a loaf of bread, it's a craft, right? Being a being from the cameras, a craft and something that like, you know, I'm really trying to get better. I didn't understand that for a long time to like, well nervous. Were you the first time you were in front of the camera? Tell me about that, because like, my first game I ever played in, I mean, it's like, I'm throwing up in the bathroom on, like, my stomach's curling, like, now, you know, this is you've just been, you know, been a bigger now. It's like, I'm on the show, it's, you know, they're telling you, it's going to go out to all these people. Were you nervous the first time? You know, it's funny, like, I don't know why this is, but like, I've never really had stage fright, you know what I mean? Like, I kind of like, I'm like, I was a class clown, I was, you know, I'm a pretty big goofball, you know what I mean? Like, it's sort of like, and I've never really like, um like, I don't know, I've never been sort of afraid of that stuff. Like, I'm sure you've done a lot of like, you know, like personal appearances, right? Where you go and do like a lecture at a college or something. So I do, I do a lot of them. And the first time like, you know, my agency called me up like, hey, uh do you want to go talk to like 1000 college students and in an auditorium? I was like, sure, why not? So they booked it, you know? And I went and it was, I think it was at University of Maryland, at a college park. And so I went down there like, you know, I went into this big auditorium, was all these kids in there and I'm about to like go out on stage and the like, you know, there's like the stage manager and like all the...

...people that kind of like brought me there and the people that signed the check, you know all those guys, they're all there and so like you know I'm about to go out there and I was like hey what do you guys want me to talk about? And they were like uh you don't know what you're going to talk about? I was like no, I I thought like you guys might have like a you know, a topic that you wanted me to discuss and they were like no, and I was like okay we'll figure it out. And so I walk out on stage and I you know just started talking and hanging out and telling stories and you know and um it was like it was hilarious, right? It was really funny and it just like it kind of like went off without a hitch. And so I feel like like I just sort of like I've never been afraid to talk to a camera, like talk to a crowd. And so like the first time they ever like kind of turned the camera on, I was like, I'm just gonna be myself, right, I'm not an actor right? Like when I try to act, it's so obvious, I have a new show called Duff's Happy Fun bake time. Yeah, it's me baking with puppets and it was like a scripted show and like I'm you know, I'm not an actor and it's it is painfully obvious. But the thing is like, it totally works because like all the people around, it's all puppets and these are all like these incredible puppeteers that work for the Jim Henson company, like they're just they're amazing. And so there's like a certain like there's like something very endearing about it, you know what I mean? Like if you get caught up in the puppet or do you know like the person like running the puppet, right? Because do you get caught up like finding that you're talking to the puppet, like your minds like talking to this puppet, but not really the person, you know what I'm saying for me? Honestly like, like talking to the puppets was just like talking to anybody else. Yeah, I wasn't like I wasn't really thinking about the person but like, like you know this is who I was talking to and uh but you know, it's like, you know, so so like I was saying I'm just I'm not an actor. And so I think the first time when they sort of put me in front of the camera just started talking and just being myself and you know, that's what I tell people that are you know like coming onto television to they asked me a lot like you know how do you like you know how do you do this? You know you're pretty good at like sort of judging something like like what I try to do honestly is like when you're when you're in T. V. Uh you know this like all the camera guys like everybody is trained to be absolutely silent right while you're while you're doing your thing. So my goal I'm trying to make the camera guy laugh and I sometimes get really close every once in a while I'll get him to laugh right. But it's it's really hard to get those guys to laugh. Yeah but if I'm getting those guys to laugh the people at home are laughing. Yeah so you don't get nervous in front of the camera. you have a good personality for all that. But then you've made some cakes for some incredible people, You know, like Katy perry lady gaga. You've done cakes for all kind of people now. Do you get nervous? Like to make their cake right, Because they might have high expectations and all, you know what I mean? It's a little different. Yeah. You know um there was there was only one time I was ever nervous making a cake and uh it was for George Lucas. Yeah. And just, you know, the thing of the thing is like, Like Star Wars, like I've grown up with Star Wars, you know, I was born in 70 for the first one came out in 77. And like it's been a part of my life since I can remember how many Star Wars lego sets I put together with my kids. Millennium fell into the Death star Everything. You've got a great with icing and cake. Yeah. So we were, we got to go to marin County and make a cake for George Lucas at the Skywalker Ranch. I mean it was like the most amazing experience I've ever had and it was just incredible. So you're nervous when you're bringing an end for him. Yeah, I mean, you know when, when, when, you know he walked in like I didn't know he was going to be there. You know, I was already freaking out because we were at lucasfilm. You know what? I've been trying to get on that place for a long time and then George Lucas walked in and like, I like I was terrified because I mean, you know the thing is, is like just like he just means a lot to me, you know what I mean? Like the guy like like he made it cool to like be it kind of nerdy you know like like he made like space magic cool laser swords and you know spaceships and aliens and all this stuff like he just made it cool you know? And I think that like just the mythology that he created you know and and what that means to so many people it's just like I don't know it was really exciting. And so when I met him I was like I kind of threw up in my mouth, what did you make for him? It was a it was a life size working R. two d. 2. Oh my god. Yeah. Have you...

...ever met a real art uh uh R. C. Three po and R. Two D. Two. You ever met those guys that were in those costumes? No I haven't. I've seen the ad like the costumes. I like I've seen the robots but I've never met Anthony Daniels. Yeah. I've met him a few times. It's pretty really pretty interesting. Yeah. I'm like wasn't that thing hot? He goes up several times. Yeah. That's awesome that you made him that. Yeah. That had to be very nerve wracking. Like like a tom brady called and he wants me to make him a Tampa bay buccaneers helmet. I don't know. I think you could screw that one up a little bit. I don't know. I actually met tom brady once at a best buddies event in boston. And um I like got out of the car and he was like you know he was he was there and I was like hey you know, nice to meet you, I'm duff. And he was like oh you're tough. I was like yeah yeah. He was like, I'm tom and I was like, oh yeah, I didn't realize it was you. And he kind of just funny look and I was like, yeah, I just, every time I see it got Ray Lewis laying on top of, Yeah, yeah, you're Ravens fan. So all right, so Ravens have these great rivalries with the Steelers, right? And and browns kind of not really the Bengals, but All right. So if you had to say your rival in the industry, who would it be? Oh man. I don't know. I don't really I don't, There's one guy you you got to go up and get like, I got, I gotta get this guy. Mhm. I mean, I like, so I really don't. It's just it's not like that, like even when we compete like, so I don't know if, you know Buddy Valastro, he's the cake boss. Um you know, we do this show called Buddy versus duff every year because like, you know like we like, we both kind of do like sort of big crazy cakes. Yeah, it's like every year it gets bigger and bigger like for like the 100 ton crane to have to bring in the cakes at some point. Dude, I mean we like, you know like I've gotten really good at driving a forklift. Yeah, it's like something they didn't teach you that in culinary school. No, no, I like, you know, I did a lot of construction when I was younger so I know how to drive like a bobcat and like a front end loader and stuff like never drove a forklift before. Especially when was carrying a cake. I mean it's just, it's crazy. It's crazy. Oh yeah, that had the first time you got in and said I could do this was probably a little nerve wracking. Got £100 cake on there. It's never, not nerve wracking. I was doing it a couple of weeks ago and it was nerve racking. I would think that it would be nerve lacking like, you know, because you make some incredible wedding cakes and things like that for people and this was their biggest day, right? These people are getting married, it's the biggest day, then they want these extravagant cakes and you've got to build it in your room, in your kitchen and then all of a sudden I gotta lift it, put it on a van, take it to this place without it falling apart. That that has to be more nerve racking than anything, you've done it, you know, it really is, you know, that's the thing, it's like you don't want to ruin someone's day and the cake is important, you know, the cake is important, I mean, that is, you know, it's a very, it's a focal point of, you know, every wedding, it's a focal point of every, you know what I mean, the cake is really, really important and like, you don't want to be the one to mess it up, you know, and and I think the nice thing is, is that, Like, you know, I've I've been in business since March of 2002 and like to this day like that, it's like one of my, it's like one of my mantra as almost, it's like, like this cake means so much to somebody, you know, and it's not just weddings, everything, you know, it's a birthday cakes or you know, whatever it is in the making, it's like, this might be the, You know, the 50th cake I've made that week, you know? But this cake means a lot to somebody and it means just as much to this person as the first cake I made this week and I was like, all fresh and ready to go right now. I'm like, yeah, this case can be awesome. And now I'm making like, you know, the 50th one, it's still that important. And I think that that's what really helps, you know, like to be successful in this is to be consistent. Yeah. And I think the biggest thing is you're being consistent and and making sure like this is the care and the love that I put into this cake and I'm going to put that care and love into every single cake I make, it sounds like you're a great coach, so you you kind of transfer that over to your team, Right? Yeah. You have to do this every time. And I think that's wonderful. Yeah, consistency. And you know, you know where I learned consistency. McDonald's McDonald's, that's all about right, rolling into you man. Yeah, yeah,...

...they do. They do. They do. So all right. So I'm turning 50 in July. What kind of cake should I get? Mm um, I don't know. We could do like what if we did like a, like a cement wall with like a bunch of cracks in it? Would you make me one like that? I think it was funny. I love to see it. I think it'd be great. Well instagram it and we put it on live on facebook and then I'm not going to reenact it, but I think it would be really a lot of fun to do. Yeah, I mean, it won't hurt as much. No, no, no. You know what I mean? I wish that wall would have been made out of cake because that maybe it had been a little bit different, right? Maybe that maybe that's what I thought. Maybe I thought it was kate because I scored a touchdown and wanted to celebrate. Yeah. You know, what are you gonna do when you were playing for the skins? Right? Yeah. You were playing the Giants. It was a huge game. I had all that stuff going on in my life with my kids and the coach was on me and I scored this touchdown and just felt like everything came off my shoulders and I just ran up to jump off the wall and end up, you know, doing doing what I did. And then I turned around and Jamie Asher, my tight end slapped me inside of the head, you know, because that's what you do when you score a touchdown or somebody else, did you smack him in the head? And then I was I was loopy and had to go to the hospital and the rest of it is only in front of like 70 million people that day or something. That's a big deal. Sometimes, I don't think I'll ever forget it, right? I my kids, I'll always be on ESPN for, not for good stuff, but what are you gonna do if you can't laugh about it? What do you know what I mean? It's just gonna yeah, totally, so when we make the cake will do like um we'll do like uh like a maroon and yellow smear kind of on it too, you know? Oh, that's perfect, that's perfect. It would be a, you know, I think my wife would action kids would absolutely love that because I have to hear about it all the time. To what you gonna do. We laugh about it. But so, so I appreciate you joining me and spending some time with me, but tell all of our fans and everybody who's listening how they can follow you and where they can go to, you know, kind of find you. I mean, you're doing so many. What shows should we watch? Where should we go to watch you on tv now? Gotcha. So if you uh if you get Discovery Plus, um Duff's happy, fun bake Time is streaming on there. That's the puppet show. It's like, it's a kids show, but it's really for everybody, it's more like pee wee's playhouse, you know? Yeah, remember that then. Um if you see, if you're watching Food Network, um I think starting in july is Buddy versus Duff season three, and I'm here in Knoxville right now. We are filming holiday baking championship, spring baking championship and kids baking championship. Uh so that will, those will start airing right around thanksgiving. So, and then you can follow me on social media, it's all you know at Duff Goldman. So the body versus what's the tagline this year? Go big or go home? I don't know, I mean, it's like, what else can you guys do? Um So our tagline was dumb and dangerous, dumb and big, dumb and dangerous. There's got to be flames shooting out everywhere. Don't get too close, you could get electrocuted, There was there was some dangerous, very dangerous stuff that That's awesome. That's awesome. Well done. Ai thank you man and hopefully we can stay in touch. I seriously would love to get a cake from you for my fit. I think it would be classic. You know, it would be an honor to be really cool. We love that. That would be great. But I appreciate you taking your time and you know, it was just amazing to me that, yeah, you have sports in your history, competition and, and you sound like a good coach for your team and there's, there's so many similarities to sports and what you're doing and people don't understand that, but I think you brought it to life today. Thank you. Thanks. I appreciate it. Yeah. So, hey, enjoy your time. I want to welcome. I mean, I want to thank everyone for joining me on how to up with gusts. I want to thank Duff Goldman for joining me and telling us his amazing story and hearing a little bit about how sports and baking are very comparative in the world today and how you were all growing with technology, especially in the baking industry. So, thank you again, Duff. And thanks to um, 16 31 Digital News dot com. Thanks to Sounder FM. I appreciate all of you, and we'll see you next time on huddle up with gusts and that's a wrap sports Fan. Thanks for joining in the fun at the 16 31 digital studios for another to huddle up with Gus, featuring 15 Year NFL quarterback Gus Ferrand huddle up with. Gus Is proudly produced by 1631 digital...

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