Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

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Doug Flutie

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Welcome to the Huddle with 15-year NFL Quarterback Gus Frerotte! In today’s huddle, Gus welcomes a fellow quarterback, Doug Flutie and the two share notes on what life was like leading the charge down the gridiron. Gus then dials back the conversation to Doug’s younger years and what led him to a life of sports and how playing football at a young age helped shape him. This episode is full of insights, exciting recollections and even some prognostications on how this season will end up across the NFL. Thanks for stopping by today’s huddle with Gus Frerotte and Doug Flutie!

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So today's guest, I can't wait to talk tohim doing all the research on this guest has been amazing. Uh you know, Ican't believe that if you start going through his resume it's amazing. Uh Iplayed 15 years. He's played way longer than that but he's played in threedifferent leagues. Uh He's set all kinds of records. He's almost in everyHall of Fame. Uh, you name it, He's done it and he's still doing it today.So our guest today doug flutie doug. How you doing buddy doing? All rightguys hanging out down in florida. Being a bum trying to get some start. We hadgreat waves this week and a little surfing in play a little baseball onthat fun. So do you have a short border along board? Uh, the boards gottenlonger over the years? And because I live in Melbourne Beach, right Beachabout an hour and a half north down to our inlet, basically a little south ofarea is called the shark bite capital of the world. So we see more than ourshare of sharks. So I've gone basically to stand up paddle boards and you know,I have smaller like an eight ft paddle board and catch the waves on that. Stayaway from the sharks. Yeah. I don't really want to get too close to thoseguys, right? Like we put it up to them. I don't want to leave it up to that.Right? My friends who live in, uh, right below you in, uh, in jupiter,they were saying that, you know, it's like winning the lottery, you just goin and what's the chances of you winning the lottery? And it's the sameas like if you're going to get bit by a shark and I'm like, that's not a chance.I'm willing to take it all, Somebody wins the lottery every time, right?Yeah. Right? Yeah. Every day, someone who win the lottery, there's a lot ofsharks out there. I'm like, no, thank you. I definitely don't want to do that.Most, the most recent, most recent I caught a wave. I was kinda at the endof the day and I was thinking about going all the way in the shore, decidedno, I'm going to turn out of the way. As I turned out of the wave to my left,there was a 5-foot shark in the wave and I swear it seemed like my boardmust have hit another too fast and quick. That would never happen to gounder. As I saw that I peeled back around and just rode the wave onto thesand and ran off the border. But they're, they're, they're all over theplace that, that has to get your heart pumping. Like if you see that rightbelow you, like it affects your balance, you get better balance or where you getlike a little nervous if I think like there's fishy days, there's days wherethere's schools of fish and things and you're, I go in and don't fall off theboard mode and very conservative about what we have to catch because I want tomake sure I'm gonna be able to get out of the wave and stay on the board andall that. Um but I mean we've we see during certain times a year, there'sspinner sharks and black tips they're migrating and they're all over theplace and we see them jump all over and we're still out there surfing. Like myphilosophy is is I want to stand up. Most the other guys are on short boards,they're like sitting waist deep in the water there, stark bait, right? So it'speter dangling. I'm not doing that man. No way. And that's amazing. You're on ait's almost becomes the same for you when you're on a paddleboard, stand upboard when you're surfing, you just got to kind of manage the stick now right?Yeah, that's just, you know, instead of having the hardest part about surfingis when you catch the wave, you've got this flit second as you catch it tocome down the face of the wave where you pop up and turn and as you, as youget older, the backs tighter, that gets harder, a little more difficult. Andthis now you're gonna stand up now my stand up smaller and a lot of guyssurfboards, but now I use the paddle to get into the wave and I'm already up.Yeah, you catch the wave earlier, you ride the wave longer and you stay withme is that like, well you said before the show that you you served and youplayed baseball is that kind of your main form of exercise now becausethat's the best way to do it right? Get in the weight room. It's not fun likedoing that would just be a blast. Yeah, I'm not a weight room guy. It never wasjust had a reunion with a bunch of the...

...boston college guys and and you know,they were all making the joke that doug still doesn't know where the weightroom is and can't find it. Yeah, I mean that's that's my work. I hate pureworkouts for working out rather activities and go way I do it, I hearyou. So you stayed in your long career. You seem like you stayed pretty injuryfree through your whole career. You know, I say that I was lucky. I didplay 21 years. I've retired at 43 years old. Um, But when you go back, I hadfour surgeries on my left knee to scopes so early on the knees, I had alower back surgery, ahead Tendon reattached to my elbow, cracked acouple ribs, head of this. But you know, you start, you play 21 years, you makethis long list. But no, I'm intact. I still feel really good. I can run andthrow and uh just blessed to be able to because I've seen some guys, I meanguys that, that struggle walking already have two new hips and a newknee and proportionate this replacement that so you know from that were goingon your hips or knees? Uh well my left knee, I need a replacement so thatthrows your whole body out of whack. So I gotta do some work just because Ireally don't want to go through another surgery when you've been through like14 of them, you know what I mean? And then um And then my shoulder needscompletely done. I have a labor man, a rotator cuff tear and my right throwingshoulder so I couldn't really throw a football in like 10 years just becauseI can't because it so I just try to long as I can golf. I'm alright and gofishing like you like the surfboard, I like to go fishing the one yeah someonecoming down, your friends of jupiter will meet up down there because thefishing down, I'm not a fisherman but I'm willing to learn. Alright. Onething for me, my arm is you know, I think I tore the 10 and had to reattachwhen I was like 33 34 years old and it was like starting over it was like Iwas back to being a 20 year old throwing the ball so my arm still worksfor whatever reason and that's why you're playing baseball now, that'samazing, I mean that you know it's not the same as being in front of a youknow but out there but you still get that intensity like a lot of us don'tget that anymore. Uh It's uh we play these tournaments all that, we just gotback from Fort Myers, we got another one going on out here at the Washingtonnationals old facility here in Melbourne coming up next week or at theend of the week and these tournaments where guys come from all their like 6070 teams, it's the Roy Hobbs World series, we play at JetBlue Park, overwhere the red Sox spring training is and all the red sox fields and all that.It's really, it's, it gets you going, it's competitive. You know, there'ssome former minor leaguers guys that can, can rate God, there's a, you know,and then there's the old guy too. I mean it's the Advil tournament, youknow, there's gonna be a strain that's going to be a torn achilles somewhere.Yeah, it's not, it's not a kegger anymore. Everybody's passing around theAleve now, Not like not like we were young, like everybody's going to have adrink now, everybody's like, hey, you need some medicine like before you evenstart, I get that, I get that. But you know, I want to talk to you a littlebit like you lived multiple places growing up, you were born in Maryland,you moved to florida. Um, your dad was in Aerospace and then all of a suddenyou go back up to two boston, like assume that you had a lot of fun inflorida when you were living down there because even in, when you were injunior high you were winning everything. Yeah, I live, you know, I was justliving a block from the beach, a block from the river in florida basically inthe town that I am now Melbourne Beach and you were outdoors all day, all dayoutdoors running around playing you know and I played all three sports forbasketball, baseball and football and it was nonstop and it was just a way oflife, you know, it's like you're throwing up reports, your dress and youjust go and I think that really lent to my athleticism growing up and then myfather decided uh yeah he didn't like the school system's down here andwanted to get up north to the boston area as I was in junior high school. Heknew he knew more than I did. He, he knew all three of his sons were prettygood athletes and you know, wanted to give us the best chance. And we went up,my, my older brother played division one baseball, my younger brother playedat boston college. The wide receiver spent three years in the NFL and abunch of years in Canada playing from what is he like, he's like fourth inCanadian football and receiving or something. He he left the CFL is theall time leading receiver. That's amazing and he did a lot of great, hewas like one of those 5 10 slot backs that had the two way go and runningoption routes with a little shake and he was Wes Welker before Wes Welker.Exactly, he was exactly all right. So you and your brothers all have extremeathleticism and we know that well which one is the smartest of all three of youbecause I know that's what you guys go after all the time now there's no doubtand this people don't believe that my older brother Bill is the smartest ofall. He was a Brown university ivy...

...league. I write, my brother, Darren wasthe best athlete by far. Darren was like a step faster than me, he was muchstronger than me. Um I kind of had a combination of the two and I don't knowI had to drive for sure, but I don't know, I want a little more. My youngerbrother speed and my older brothers had mhm Yeah, I mean, so what is the, myolder brother is 63, right? My younger brother. And yeah, we're 5 10. So Iknow you guys have to challenge each other when you, when you get together,what's the game you play basketball? What do you guys play? It's usually usagainst the world, we go to these tournaments together and really older,my older brother plays third. My younger brother has always been theshortstop and on the second baseman that and you couldn't have thediscussion even though my arm was stronger as we got older, you could nothave the discussion. Darren is the shortstop, that's the way it is. Youdon't even bring it up. And finally the last tournament. Um he's like why don'tyou take short? I mean we're all, he's in his mid-50s, I'm 59, my olderbrother's 60. Um so you guys all live near each other. Uh you guys all livenear each other. My older brother lives down here in florida right near me andmy younger brother is still up in boston will fly down for some of thetournaments. Oh yeah that's good. He loves the cold then. Uh it's it'sfamily. It's always you know his son played at boston college, his he worksup there and just for him it was more job related than anything to stay up inthe boston area. Yeah, yeah, no I get that. So you're at, how do you sayfanatic? Natick natick high school? Say I need that boston now we got, I don'thave any accent because I was like a sportscaster. You have to be vanilla. Iplayed lived everywhere. But So you're at natick obviously you play threesports, were you recruited in any other sports? I was recruited for basketball.Basketball was my first love. You know it was a point garden. Um but I wasreally a division to one of a kind of kid for for basketball but I wasgetting recruited the same for football. It was like I give league schools andHoly Cross and U. Mass and new Hampshire and then real late in therecruiting season boston College head coach resigns. The guy that was up inMaine Jack McNeill got the head job at boston College and started scramblingto get athletes and the two quarterbacks he really wanted whenelsewhere and then he offered me, it was my only division one offered really.It was like steve teach went to Syracuse Pete muldoon Washington D. C.Kid went to Holy Cross, they bring in a quarterback and uh they offered mefigured out and could change positions. I don't um Holy crosses up there by you.Right. It was, I wouldn't want to go there because it's something like theside of that hill, that mountain and you have to walk everybody's like no Iwouldn't want to go there. I went to Tulsa, it was nice and flat. Yeah. HolyCross is right then. That was actually a rivalry of boston College is reallythat mr it was Right 40 minute right out of the city and back in my years.Holy Cross was really good football. Um there were one double a school I thinkthey had an undefeated season. The year 40 Lakh bomb was he was uh yeah he gotin the mix for the Heisman all that kind of stuff but they ended updropping football after a few more years. Yeah, so it seems like you knowlike I played every sport, loved everything. I thought about going to asmaller school to play baseball and then, you know, a few footballscholarships came through and I got far away from home. I wanted to get away.But you know, it seems like when I went to school right, I didn't really haveincredible expectations of what I should do, where it should be, where Iwas going. I just love playing sports and doing everything and I feel likethat's how you kind of went to boston college with the same attitude. Oh yeah,well I went to boston College and I thought I really thought I belonged toan ivy league at that level and I went to BC thinking I'll never see the field.I mean I'm a, I'm looking at all the other quarterbacks, 6364 upperclassmen.We actually had like eight on the roster back then and there's no way I'mseeing the field. I was this close to asking to switch positions just to tryto get on the field. You know what I did see it. BC was Alabama was on theschedule. Clemson Miami, uh you know, I want to be a part of that. I knew itwas important to me and I wanted to be a part of that. Yeah. And and playingagainst the biggest teams, you know, we kind of, we were independent of Tulsaas well and we'd always play those big games, which is like okay, I was indouble a football in Pennsylvania. Like we didn't, you know, we had like onegood player on each team and now you're in college and you're going to playagainst Oklahoma. Like there was just...

...something about being able to go dothat from how I grew up was amazing. Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I wasexcited when I saw like ivy leg if I went to Harvard, they could play Yaleevery year and that game would be nationally televised. This is backbefore they televised every game all over the place. But when I saw theschedule of boston college and be a part of that and be a part of playingat Penn State. First time I walked on the field and played, I was Walking outof Penn State 85,000 people just to see if people in beautiful day. I'm lookingaround like, Okay, I'm gonna go out here through 200 units, fourth quarterthe game, I'm gonna go out here and just be terrible and this will be thelast time. But I can at least say I was out in front of 85,000 people And thenwalk out on the two and play at Penn State. Yeah, that, that would beamazing. I used to, I probably was there one of those games because mycousin mitch um, played at Penn State, he was alignment and he was on thenational championship team and then you probably were after him with the Bills.I don't know, he played for the Bills for for like four or five years. I'vebeen early nineties, right? So you're doing Canada. Yeah, but but you know, you're getting backto boston college, like you started having this great career and playingall these games and then your senior year comes around and it seems like youjust, you were just the leader, right? You just became the leader of the team.And did you ever just sit back and think about your whole past? Becausesometimes I would do that. Like think about like I'm sitting here, I'm goingto start to this game against Oklahoma and thinking about where I grew up, youknow what it was like and now I'm here to senior and doing all theseincredible things. I mentioned that we had a reunion and we're all kind oftalking about this stuff that we were too stupid and naive to realize thestage we were on, we went, we went down to Alabama to play and it's like thisis fun. Look at if we're in Alabama, who would have thought, you know, we'rea bunch of stupid New England Area guys mostly and it's like we belonged atHarvard and Brown and we're playing in Alabama, this is fun and we have a planand we're going to come from behind to beat Alabama at Alabama, We go toClemson and head coach Jack, you know, they warned Jack and I, Jack CoachBicknell at the time, we were talking on the bus on the way to the stadiumand I'm like, look at this, there's tiger paws in the highway, look at this,this is cool tiger paul. And we pull him and coaches like, yeah, you know,they, they said that we're we really shouldn't be on the sideline um whenthey come down off the hill and touch the rock and run down on the field. Igo, really, is it? What do they do? They touch this rock thing and comedown and that's pretty cool that we got to see this. So, you know, we're outthere just taking it all in and not knowing any better and that's why aregroup played so relaxed and having fun. It was, you know, I became a leader,that I was a quarterback and you had a knack for the last second heroics, likethroughout the career, you know, there's two minute drives that was likemy wheelhouse, I love, you know, nobody could catch you, that's why. Andthey're great and you don't have to read courage to start something breaksdown, then you can just run around. I never could do that. So I don't knowwhat you're talking about. I'm like the mannings right, they always complainthat their dad got all the speed and Peyton and Eli didn't get any of itright? That's kind of how I was, you know what it allows and you see withall the young quarterbacks in the NFL now they're so athletic that they canbe competitive right away. They can get on the field, do the quarterback readsand the R. P. O. S and the listen to that and make a team competitive rightaway. But because all their lives, you've been just the best athlete onthe field, they got away with being lazy mentally, gotta catch in order towin at the NFL level. You've got to get that other aspect of the game thatPeyton and tom and all those good. Gosh, yeah, right. And you get stuck with oneblitz. It'll be the end of you. Right? So, hey, I got Armando here, he asked,he wants to ask you a question, Does Doug look at someone like Kyle umearlier, Russell Wilson where to go? All right, go back. Does Douglas,somebody like Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson say, man, I was then before theNFL involved, I, you know what, I cheer for those guys unbelievably becauseit's like a little man syndrome. I gotta stick together. It's like, yeah,I proved my point that we can, I wish I had the opportunity to play in the NFLtoday that the style of offenses, the willingness to electric quarterback runthe ball a little more And all that stuff and I say this and I've said 1000times with podcasts and other things that when I was up in Canada, we weredoing that stuff 25 years ago, 30 years ago. Empty sets gun the whole game rungame out of the gun. Damon Allen was a quarterback in Edmonton and what Damonstarted doing was i in that back side in, if he, if he closed he'd pull itnaked bullet and I saw a man doing it. So I Damon Allen's Marcus Allen'syounger brother. So I started doing...

...that. But then the strong safetyposition or corner, somebody would come off and come at me. So I startedtelling the receiver, don't block them, just turn and look for the ball if heleaves you turn and look for it and then we start putting around in sowe're doing that our P. O. Stuff without really calling it anything,you're right and and I wish, yeah, that stuff, I'd love to have the opportunityto run some of that stuff in the NFL and see how it would go. Well. I meannow there's a lot more guys that play like you did right in the NFL weather.Um, it's Lamar, Jackson, Russell Wilson, those R. P. O. S are coming in, thosecoaches, the NFL is made now like college more than it is like it used tobe because when you came in, when I played, it was all big play action, youknow, running encounters and under center center. I mean how many shotguns?If the only time we ever did shotgun was either two minute drill or likethird and long burning a mile or two minutes. And that was it. And I go backto my college station because I just saw Senator Jackie Burke, JR and Jackiegoes, you know, we never practiced shotgun. We get in the middle of thegame, the most important time of the game. Never done it. And you say I'm inshotguns just if we never practiced gun, we were always under center in practiceand then those situations and I said, Hey, I'm in the gun. He's like, youknow, he'd freak out because he's never done it. And yeah, and it's amazing howmuch I was under center when I look at some of my NFL films well and I thinkwhen you're under center all the time and then all of a sudden you gotta goto shotgun, it's a whole different view and trying to see people and all that.Like you people don't realize that five, your big difference. And when theseguys are in shotgun all the time now they get so good at it right? Becausethey've been doing it since like their little kids, especially as a shorterquarterback, the further I am away from the offensive line to better my vision.So I would take deep drops and your coaches give me a hard time because Iwasn't taking discipline drops and I couldn't give a straight answer as towhy I did it, it was just an instinctive thing to find a way tothrow the ball and see and whatever I was doing, but then you get a gun andyou're away from that and it opens things up. I always hate it, I hate it.Double moves double move like a slant and go hit and go because I'd have to,I'd have to set quick, give the pump fake and reset and the old line wouldbe in my lap, it just would look like and uh you know, you start findingthings that work for you and things that didn't. Yeah, no, I agree withthat. You got, you got to know your strengths and your weaknesses andalways trying to prove I wanna, I wanna go to this one because you know, youhad such an amazing career and they build this amazing statue because whatyou did at boston college, obviously the Miami game, the last secondtouchdown, but it's more overall your whole career, your, that they've beenbuilt out because of one play, but they built that because your career wasamazing when you're standing in front of that. What do you feel like I'lltell coach bicks said this, but the day they unveiled the statue at that, youknow, we had a little ceremony, a bunch of the guys are there, my coaches there,he stands next to me, leans over and whispers in my ear, I thought you hadto be dead to have a statue. You know, you're right. Maybe it's pretty, I meanit's, it's pretty cool. I, I, you know, I end up going to a lot of games and onthe way out you walk past this statue or near it and I'm usually taking apicture or sign an autograph over here and it's hard to get somewhere. Andthen all of a sudden, you know, people might come over to flock a little forthe audit and like, you know what, screw it. Let me walk over in front ofthe statute. Let's do this. Right? And it, after every game, I end up sittingand signing in front of it for a while. But it's, I mean, I'm just amazing.It's the coolest thing ever and they should have one on the other end of thestadium of Gerard catching the ball. Oh, that would be really cool. Like both ofyou. But you know, one of the things I read about like after that gamehappened and after that amazing play, um, like school admissions went upincredibly like all these things happen because like you said before, the gamesweren't televised barely and this game was televised. Like one of the onlyones at this big, big moment and you made it even bigger, which was reallycool. Yeah. We, uh, we were very, we had three nationally televised games.My senior year. Um, are north Carolina game are Alabama game and the Miamigame and not to mention the cotton bowl. Um, so the school raped in a lot ofmoney for tv revenue compared to what was going on at that time. Um, theyrefer to it now is the flutey factor of what an influence or in a universityand what I, I forget what the percentage of admissions that went up.But what it was, you had to be in the top 23 to 20% of your class to get intoboston college after my senior year, you had to be in the top 3% of yourclass to get in. It became so competitive to get in. And uh, you know,it raised because I remember there...

...being one of the professors wrote anarticle in a school newspaper that you know, we're selling our soul to besuccessful in football and it was exactly the opposite because of thesuccess of the football program and upgraded the education. Yeah. Yeah.That's smart. I mean don't you wish you could have, they would have an I. L. Sback when you were playing there. Like you would, you would have had everyperson in boston coming at you man. It was crazy when I was in college. We arefamily. We had nothing. We, I mean if I didn't get a scholarship I wasn't goingto school right. And the fact that I was on campus, Iwas on scholarship, I could eat three meals a day. I could eat like I hadfood and I acted anytime I want. Yes. I thought I had the world, you know, Icouldn't imagine having a name and like this situation where I was gettingendorsements while I was at school. I know that would be crazy. Like, like Iwas happy with my dad would send me $50 to college, right? I'm like, oh, me andmy buddies were gonna go eat like you don't get to do that. So now it's like,could you imagine like the kid from Oklahoma, I think did a million dollardeal. Oh my Lord, I didn't hear that. But that's, that's amazing. And all thepower to him. I worry, I worry that it's going to change the haves and havenots of college football, like there's going to be, there already is adiscrepancy because they're able to, the programs that are winning, uh,perpetuated. You know, they're getting all their best kids and they'recontinuing the wind. Um, and now you're at a big school where you have boostersthat are nuts about their football program and promising theseendorsements opportunities and they're just going to keep getting the richwill get richer and the others, I potentially see someday there's adivide happening of almost like a one double A level and you know, the bigboys, I don't know if that's gonna happen, but well and I also feel forall the other sports in those schools right there. You know how are thosekids that don't have any money that aren't doing anything, they might beplaying you know girls softball, volleyball, all these other things theyprobably are not getting any of those opportunities and and someday they'llgo I feel bad for them so they'll give him something and it's like 50 bucksfor this or 100 kids get your good money. Um. Yeah that's and it's alwaysbeen that way at the college level that your football and basketball programcarry the rest of the athletic department arrest. You know the olympictype sports just you know they're not raking in the money. They're notbringing in the fan base, they're not having a tv revenue. Um So they rely ontheir football and basketball program to bring in that revenue to support therest of the programs. Yeah I think the N. C. A. Opened up like it would belike if you were on a surfboard and you're paddling out in the middle of abunch of blacktip sharks. Like you just opened up this whole can of worms likeI don't want to I don't want to really swim in that. No no turn around paddleback in. Yeah so you know you talk about your your parents and your humblebackground, you really didn't have much growing up and then I see the trophybehind you and then you get to that point after your season plus you wonyou were like college quarterback of the year Maxwell award all these thingsand I wonder since your parents, you know, we're pretty, it seemed like theywere very well educated. Were they? I'm sure they were proud of you, werethey more proud of you for that? But you are also up for a Rhodesscholarship. You also won a National Football Foundation scholarship. Likeyour academics were just a stellar. Yeah sure. Absolutely. They pushed. Umin fact when I made the decision to go to B. C. My parents wanted to go toHarvard, my counselors and teachers wanted me to go to Harvard because Igot accepted right? I knew how important football was to me. So I Iwent, you know the division one level even though I'd probably sit the benchand all that. Yeah, I mean that's something I was very proud of. Theywere proud of me for that, that I take a lot a lot of pride in the fact that Iwas in that situation academically and had a chance to um uh you know what, Idon't consider myself a scholarship. I'm not an intellectual tom brady is anintellectual to place here, right? I'm a jock and I put in my time to do whatit was like a game. I always I studied to pass that test and I get a test andI dump it and I go to the next, you know, it was because I wasn't, I wasn'tsomeone that like took the best notes and prepared the best and all that. Butin the last hours, you know, I'd stay up all night, just like your game,right? You procrastinate. And then all right, I'm just gonna do it at the lasttwo minutes and I'm gonna, yeah, yeah, I'll get through this. Look, look howsmart tom is he's holding up your box of cereal for you. We're coming to, youknow, I remember giving him a natick high school sweatshirt right from therewas one christmas and so I gave a sweatshirt and sure enough he's smartenough to throw it on and get a picture...

...of him in it and get it out there andall the kids are back at the high school. Absolutely loved it. And youknow, just tell me he's such a good guy and I, you know, things like that, likeposting the flutie flakes when I did dancing with the stars a handful ofyears ago. You look good in those, those stretchy pants and you find outthe stretchy shirts are nice. You're always used to wearing the tight ones.Right? Well we're used to these dress shirts, right? Yeah, yeah. And then Igot there and they're giving you what looks like a dress shirt to put on andit's got give to it. I'm like, this is what are these things made on? This isawesome. It is awesome. Of course the glam and the blinged out stuff I coulddo with that was that hard for you doing that dancing, like Oh my God, itwas hard. It was like one of the most challenging things you've ever done.You had four, Yes, it was. They give you four hours a day to rehearse withyour partner. Mine was Karina Smirnoff, not the baka, but Karina, Karina wasprobably the most talented dancer in the group. Like she's world class, winworld Championships, all that kind of stuff. But when it came to the teachingend of it, she was at such another level. I'm like, bring it down, like,just give me something, I don't, I don't care if my pinkies pointing inthe wrong direction or what, Just make sure my feet do the right thing and Idon't forget, but we would go for four hours, but we'll get there a littlelate and she would be texting or instagram, so we got to do somethingfor instagram and then do that. So we'd waste half of the time, which meant inher mind, she had no time schedule, we would eight hours later, we're stillrehearsing because I'm not getting it yet. So we went a long, long days, wereally did and she was great. She put the time in to get me at least amediocre and I got through seven weeks. I, my my wife would never let me dothat because she knows what kind of I have two left feet and she probablywould say you're not embarrassing the family. I embarrassed the family. Weekone. We've been a weak one. I've spent week one right, My biggest fear. And Iwas older. I was in my fifties when I did it, remembering steps like just you know,something new here and I'm remembering, it's not instinctive and I missed, Imissed step a little bit in the first dance and then I never miss steps eventhough I wasn't the most graceful guy in the world. He started to put my feetin the right spot. Right. There you go. There you go. So we got anotherquestion for you from Terry. So everyone, if you're listening, pleasecome on, you can claim a spot. You come on and asked Doug to question yourself.But Terry has one here is she wants to know what is your favorite memory ofplaying in the NFL And your thoughts on the Bills getting to the Super BowlThis season boy, you know the first thing that comes to mind for me was inmy first start in Buffalo. I had been out of the NFL for nine years, eightyears. It was over nine years between starts and we went the length of the field Withunder a minute and no time outs against Jacksonville. They were 16 at the timeAnd 1 4th down. I ran a bootleg in and ran it in for the winning score and allthat. And that was kind of the moment that I had arrived back in the NFL,what was more important than that was week one, week one, you know, I I justwas happy to be on the roster and make the roster that and and rob johnson gotbanged up and I went in the second half through a couple of touchdowns and putus in a spot to win the game. We go the length of the field, we had a chip shotof a field goal to win it and we missed the field goal. But that was the daythat I knew this is gonna work out, you know, this is this is definitely gonnawork out. I belong. Uh seeing the Bills, I'll tell you what last year I thoughtthe Bills are going to make a run. They didn't play their best football in theplayoffs. Um Yeah, but I love josh Allen. I think they're really good thisyear. I don't know what the heck happened last week. Oh man. Well he'smy fantasy quarterback in our family league and I was like, what are youdoing? I really didn't watch the game. I just kept seeing the score. I'm like,are you kidding me? When is it gonna let's go kick it in. What's going on?But I really think there They're a good football team. They're built to winlate in season two and nasty when the weather gets nasty, there's stillnobody wants to go to Buffalo. You don't want to play there. I, we linedup, we were playing the patriots there And it was snowy and really windy like35 mile an hour gusts or whatever it was and uh peerless price wide receivertrack guy from Tennessee slip. He's out there standing up on film. This windgust came out blue snow on my face. I remember turning my head to the sidefor a second Then it died down and going back under center, snap the balland run of the play on film. Pierre was standing up out there in the two pointand got blown backwards three ft and had to walk back to the line ofscrimmage and realign. I mean you don't...

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Um, but yeah, they don't want, they don't wantto have to deal with it. There's a mental aspect of it and you learn laternot to put on so much stuff. Finally keep your hands warm and and go, Istarted wearing gloves. I started wearing gloves to throw the ball. Notbecause they kept my hands were in fact your hands get cold because you can'tput him up under your pads, but it gave me a consistent grip on the ball and Icould just let it fly without worrying about my grip. Yeah, that's the worstwearing gloves and trying to get them in your pouch and they are all stickyand you know what I mean? Like that was the worst thing ever. So I wanted toask you a little bit about the CFl because that is not an easy place toplay. Like you mentioned, you played in a dome, but you played for other teamsas well. And the weather can get unreal because I have family that live inCanada. My family came through to the states through Canada. So I have a tonof family members in Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, you know, up there and thenuh, we're in, you know, outside of Buffalo. So I have family all throughthere. And my uncle called me one time from Saskatoon. He goes, hey, will youcome up and speak at a function we have right after your football season. Isaid, well what's the temperature right now? He said, it's not too bad. It'slike minus 25 I'm like, I don't know...

...who might just stay here where I am. Itsounds a lot better, but I mean that, but planning that would be insane. Weplayed a game in Calgary playoff game against And at Kickoff was -24 and was a windyday. It's like 30 mile an hour winds. So it started to snow before the gameat halftime. They took an extended half time to plow the field, it's off theheaters to save the propane And we couldn't restart them in the secondhalf. So we went second half of no heaters, it got down to -44 with a -85wind show. It was the most miserable thing I've ever been through in my life.It was how do you get through like your helmets just gotta be so hard. It was, it was, they're like thereain't why I ever left florida, you know, it's no coincidence. I spent I playedin Buffalo, I played in Chicago. I played in New England, I played eightyears in Canada at the end of my career, I got to spend a few years in San Diegobut I was done being cold. Yeah, I played, I don't I don't know what teamI was on because I played for seven but we played you out in San Diego. Iplayed against you when you played for Buffalo, played against you when youwere in New England and then we're playing with the dolphins. We come outand play and that's when you kick your your drop kick and I'm like okay, likethat's really cool because I always practice dropkick, especially when Iwas with Morten Andersen we'd always do it, but uh for you to do that in thegame. I was like okay that's not only rubbing it in our face, but that'spretty cool. It's like, how do I feel about this? Yeah. Cleo Lemon was one ofthe quarterbacks. Yeah, Cleo together in san Diego for a year. That's right.That's right. Cleo knew right away when I went out on the field. You, he toldme, he said I knew exactly what you were doing and nobody believed me. Umyeah, Chris Berman had seen me messing around doing it in pre games and toldBelichick I could do it. And then during the week he came to me actually,this was like three weeks earlier and we're gonna do it on monday nightagainst the Jets. And I went in the game with quarterback With maybe fouror five minutes ago in the game. We were up five scores and we weremarching down the field and we stalled out about the plus 35 and it was toofar. He wanted to do it as a field goal. So we didn't even talk about it for twoweeks. I just happened to be standing next to Bill And we were down by 14about 3-5 minutes ago and he saw me standing next to him. He's like, wescore here, You kick it. I'm like, what? He didn't get the sentence out of hismouth and we were already in the end zone and I go, you seriously? Go get it? Igrabbed the ball out of someone's hand. I kind of kicked it on the sideline andjogged out on the field. I was 43 years old. I've been standing around for 3.5,4 hours or yeah, I'll tell you the middle of that field,the middle of the field to was just a dirt ball. I mean it was the end of theyear, it was our old grass. She was beat up and the drop, you know, it was,it was a crap shoot. It really was, I happened to catch it flush and wentthrough um, oh yeah, I've done it like, I mean on turf, like it'll hit hitwrong and it's going off the side of your foot, your, you know, there's allkind of things that happened and you piped it in that weather. It uh yeah, Imean, I, I did catch a flush. I pretty consistent from a shorter distance likethat because you don't have to take a real stroke, you can just kind of, Sothe funny thing was the key trailers over the nose of Lonnie packs and ourlong snap like 23 15. He's like, what are you doing in the game with Flutie?And I'm gonna kick your ask. I'm going to, uh, there was, uh, they called timeout, so we end up coming back in the huddle and he's like, he's gonna do it.I said, hey, tell them what we're doing, tell them what we're doing and guysjust get him to chill out. So I think there were a lot of these conversationsgoing on up front. I think Taylor was the only guy I sort of tried to rushbecause if they really rushed that thing and the chances are it's gonnaget blocked and he didn't blow him up. He stepped by him, Zack, thomasactually stepped up, Lonnie snapped and step forward and Zach kind of lookedover his head and watch the ball go through like, what the f was that? Yeah.Right. And look them in the space, That's a drop kick. Mother hadn't beendone in 64 years. Yeah, that's why I was wondering, how many were there inthe NFL, is that like, it hadn't been done since like 1941 wow, That'samazing. That just adds to the legend of, of Doug Flutie, which is awesome.Yeah, it's awesome. That's just, you know, that that is, that epitomizes theway I played the game, I think, Oh, exactly. But you know, I recently,I've interviewed a bunch of people that were athletes and they have a band,right? And I'm like, why are all these guys who musically inclined? Like, it'slike they have a band. So you have a...

...band called the Flutey Brothers, right?Are you still doing that? We're still doing that. In fact, we're going up toBuffalo in a couple of weeks and doing some stuff up there. Um we are, youknow, yeah, it's always all athletes got a band okay. But I've been playingthe drums since I was 12 years old. My brother's been playing guitar sincehigh school. Um, our lead guitarist and keyboard player at Berklee School ofMusic guys, phenomenal musicians. Our bass player's been playing in bands allhis life as a professional musician and our lead singer is a guy that's been onbroadway and done everything, in fact, is in a broadway show right now, we'vegot to find a replacement for um, for the Buffalo gig. Um, so surroundyourself with talent, make yourself look good. That's, that's like thecoaches always say, hey guys, just throw it to the talent, right? Don'ttry to do too much. Just get to the playmakers. Exactly. So who's yourfavorite drummer? Who was the guy that you idolize and drumming? I guess, youknow, everybody goes back to Neil Perk with Rush that he's the most phenomenal.Um guy, you know, I'm more of a rock drummer. Straight ahead guy. I loveJoey Kramer Aerosmith and I love Tico Torres from bon Jovi get biased becausethese guys are guys that are buddies of mine that I knew over the years and Ijust marvel the guy that right now is playing with Leonard. Skinner. LeonardSkinner is one of my favorite all time favorite bands and guy named Michaelcarter baloney that started out as a studio musician and he says price andhe goes through his warm up routine before every gig, he does thismethodically and he can do anything and then he goes out and just play straightahead rock and has fun. But he's, he just, I, when I go and sit and watchhim play, it makes me want to quit. It's like, why you see people with suchgenius. Right? So how about when you saw motley Crue and Tommy lee and he'sin the drums and you're spinning around, do you think you could do that?Absolutely, absolutely not the Tommy, the Italians Tommy played piano, tom. Ihad some, great, I was in Chicago playing with the bears. It was mysecond year in the league. Um, and we had a bye week and my buddy scott McGeefrom the USfl days, his old doc managed bon Jovi motley Crue. So he's in townand we drive up the Alpine valley, Wisconsin to go see motley Crue and bonJovi play. And the guys from motley, we're flying over to cedar rapids Iowato play the next night and then coming back to Alpine Valley. So it's like 33days, boom, boom, boom. Right, so scott, come on, let's go over, let's go overwith the motley guys, we get on the private plane with the motley guys, wefly over to cedar rapids Iowa that night at the show. I'm sitting on Tommylee's drum riser behind him, rolling and sticks, picking out the good sticksfor, hold on, getting his water, getting in there and it was a rush. Igot to be the voice of God to and introduce the bomb. Oh really? Oh, thatwould be awesome. Just did you have to drug, did you have to drug test whenyou got back off the plane? We all saw the motley crew. Like the whole, theywere, they were a different breed. Now they don't drink, I don't smoke, Idon't do anything and they are a different breed. Well you don't have toaround them, you just, it's just being around them and just you fly back toAlpine Valley and after the cedar rapids gig, we're landing an Alpinevalley and we had to land by midnight or the landing strip was closed. It waslike one in the morning. No lights on the language, no lights at the airport,we land in the dark and you know, it's going to be, you know, motley Crue andfour others go down, right, we made it. We landed. I bet that I mean, I can'timagine doing that. Like I've had to find like Foo fighters are one of myfavorite. There are a couple of bands that I've always seen for a lot, but tobe backstage with motley Crue, my wife might actually tease her hair up likeshe was in high school and get her motley crue shirt out with thehairspray and she had to be like her first, her first band was kissed likeher first concert. So you know what kind of yeah, I'm not gonna say toomuch. I don't wanna get in trouble. All right, let's see if we got anotherquestion from Armando here. Uh Okay. So who was your favorite player to playwith in the NFL? And why I have a guest to say it would have been pretty coolto play with tom brady. But I don't know if that would be a your actualfavorite player. The first thing that comes to mind is eric molds is a widereceiver in Buffalo because he got me to a pro bowl. He was an amazing ridereceiver and my best years throwing him. I did get the chance to play with tomand I absolutely love it. One of the coolest things ever though, One of thecoolest things ever was my first touchdown pass in the NFL was to walterPayton. Uh huh. That that I got his jersey over my shoulder here, anautographed jersey from him. Um He catches the ball, it was a sprint outleft and he was in the slot and ran a deep angle corner. Now he's running adeep angle corner and I had to throw it up and over the top. He's in the backof the end zone, straight over his head,...

...catches it drags his feet and slides inthe back of the end zone running. Never you never see running backs doing thatanymore. They put him out for like either a streak or a hitch. That's it.They don't they don't put him in slot anymore. He could run that he he couldfill in a quarterback and throw the ball. He threw the ball as well as aquarterback could throw. He was a tremendous block or blitz. Pick up,catch the ball out of the backfield, like a wide receiver and just atremendous room. He was one of a kind and the guy that was close to him werein the same ballpark was LaDainian Tomlinson in san Diego. I got yeah, yougot to play with some incredible people. So when you were watching, have youever watched uh walter run and just, you know, he had such a high knee runpeople over. So do you remember a time where he ran somebody over then? Youwere like damn, I just had this image of him breaking through the line,coming up a safety coming up to make it and instead of making a miss, he'dstand up straight and high kick, like a high step and then lower his shoulderand helmet and forearm and hit guys with the forearm and just throw him offhim. And I just, I guess a lot of times when you get on the perimeter, he didthat same move where he'd start to high step and then kick in and go, he wasjust fun though. I was only with him right at the end of his career. Oh yeah.Could you imagine when he was at his peak? Yes. What? Oh well that's why Iwent to Detroit. Like I left Washington went to Detroit. I'm like, I want toplay with barry Sanders because you want to hand the ball off and justwatch them go and right before the season starts he goes, I'm going toretire and I'm like, are you kidding me? You're going to retire now. Likethere's some running back you just want to play with. Yeah, those guys are andand walter. Obviously they say about his forearms and just, you know, he hadscars on his forearms because he just was always using them to hit people andrun and run through. But yeah, just to be able to play with those guys,they're game changers because okay there, you're running back, right? Yougot a good running game, you've got this guy and you're hammering the ball.But the running backs that can line up and run rounds, You know the 10 routesand for for Walter. Payton corner routes go, you name it. Um It just is agame changer because those are your matchups, you're good tight ends andyou're running backs can get these matchups and they can change the gamefor you. Yeah, I mean that always, I mean I've had, well when we played therunning backs were such a big part for us, right? They were just handed off,they're gonna play actions right now. It's just like doing the R. P. R. P. O.S are a little different. I think they don't the running backs don't get thatdownhill running style anymore. Now it's it's more everything spout space,everything's about numbers in space. You know, in my day we called power, ohand we're freaking running. Yeah we're going right here, you know, we're gonnamotion the z receiver down and you're gonna block in. We're gonna have nineguys, we've got 10 guys blocking, we're gonna use what we call the run. I meanwe had our run checks and all that, but you know, we ran into loaded boxes allthe time and just slamming the ball in there and these guys can tear the ball30 times a game. They you know, they were we you're off into line with wherepeople down your back will get strong guys like Herschel and bo Jackson andyou know, they want the ball the more they get the ball they're gonna breakone, they're gonna hammer people down and and then the play action game isyour big plays and and passing the football Wasn't the high percentagegame that it is now. Now now it's wide receiver screens are pos little thisthat and these guys are like 70% completions were in my day, you were inthe 50% but you probably averaged a lot more per reception. Oh yeah. I meanthink about all the guys that the quarterbacks have played around it. Soit was all big play action and you know, doing those 25 yard throws downfield.That's what the coaches love. And now it's like, get the ball out of yourhands because you know, if you're, if you've got five wives out of yourrunning backs out, you don't get a lot of protection and these athletes, adefensive end now are ridiculous. The guys rushing quarterback are crazy.Yeah, I mean, and they're running as fast as the receivers. It is, it iscrazy. Who's pepper Julius peppers? Didn't he run like a 4 to 9 40 orsomething. Like I went, I went to the Cfl for eight years through the,through the nineties, came back in 98 and I could run a 45 40 I came back at33 34 years old. Whatever I was, I could still run my 45 40. But now,instead of being defensive back, wide receiver speed, I'm defensive end,linebacker speed, Defensive line backers are running me down and I'mstill, it's amazing how fast how athletic everybody's getting. Well thefirst time I played with the Vikings Jared Allen was defensive end and we godo sprints in the off season. Right. I just get there. We're doing sprints andI line up with the quarterbacks and running backs. That's who always rantogether. He lines up with the ride...

...receivers and dbs and is beating themin our sprints. That's how fast he was. The Duke could run. Yeah. It was like,what chance do we have? It's the same principle as an alligator. Don't go ina straight line, serpentine. You know, I could change directions. I was, I wasquicker than it was fast. So my only chance is changing direction becausethese guys are running down. I get in the open field. I'm looking to pitchthe ball. Yeah. Yeah. Well before I let you go, I wanted to talk something. Iknow it's very important to you because I understand it because my niece alsohas autism. But talking to me a little bit about your son's Foundation and Ithink it's awesome that you do this. Yeah. I was, I was playing in Calgaryand Dougie was about 2.5 years old and um, he was speaking in full sentences.Had full speech. We've got a lot of theories and I'll say that becausethat's very controversial. But so we went along and when I came to Buffaloand jim kelly and I got together a little bit jim it started theFoundation Hunters hoping and sunday Krabbe disease. And I'm like, you knowwhat? It's, I got to do that. And uh, he inspired it. Then. We started thefoundation, we've been going about 23, years now millions and million, $30million dollars raised. Um just something that's bigger and better thanwe ever imagined. In fact, I've been out of football now for 15, 16 years.Yeah, we are raising more money today than we were when I was playing and itjust really goes and I didn't know, you know, I was a jock, I'm playingfootball, started doing this. It's like the blinders come off and you realizeall the giving people that are out there and all the people that want tohelp and be a part of it and they volunteer their time and our boardmembers, business guys that take an afternoon off to come, have a boardmeeting and you are genuinely concerned about what to do with the Foundationand we're just moving forward. We, we focus more on families, services forthe fan. We started out doing some research and putting money towards that.We weren't bringing in the money that we make a difference there, but we canmake a difference in the individual's lives with their parents. People thatare in financial need for support for their Children. What do you suggest?Like? So my niece, um she has asperger's and she has a really hardtime connecting with anyone and then she's, she's kind of like the typical,like she only eats three things. She just graduated high school. She doesn't,her family really doesn't know how to help her. What do you suggest? Wherecan I send her in in a direction to maybe continue her life because she'svery smart. Yeah. She just doesn't have the other skills and the social skillsare tough. And that's where especially someone with asperger's are highfunctioning mentally. Sure. But the awkwardness socially causes issues andthey deal with these issues through high school through whatever. Becauseother kids don't really realize there's an issue with this person becausethey're, they're smart and class, their smartness, they can do this and this.Why aren't they? So they have it a little tougher. My son Doug is very lowfunctioning and, you know, there's no doubt there's some issues there andpeople are really nice to Dougie and wrap their arms. He's very affectionatefrom an asperger stamps point. There are, you know, our foundation, we goright to our Foundation and we're clearing out. You can, you can uh,either online through three foundation dot org, get ahold of nick's avarice.Um, we, we helped place place kids and help get jobs and, and all that. And uh,it really, you just want to put them in a situation where they can continue toblossom and continue to have, You know, a fulfilled life. You know, you wantthem to be able to get the most out of what they have and there are about, youknow, there's a whole generation. They're the numbers went through theroots through the 90s into the 2000? The numbers started going crazy. Whenwe first started the foundation, it was like one in 2000 kids was diagnosedwith autism Right now. It's like one in 50. Um, so it's great, I mean where wegrew up and I don't know if you remember, I don't remember, you didn'tsee that. Maybe it was because it didn't have the social, we couldn't seeeverywhere. But I don't remember much of that when I was a kid, you know, andit seemed to have exploded in the last so many years, I mean, And do you workwith Dan Marino at all? Because I think he has a son also, right, and Dan and Idid some events together back in the 90s. Um, but dan's son actually, youknow, he was mainstream schooling by the time he was in mid mid grade schooland went on to college, graduated college has been very successful andliving an independent life right where our sun will, he's nonverbal, lowfunctioning, he'll be with us. But you...

...know, it just there, this wholegeneration and I was, I'm going to leave it alone because Isaid it's kind of gruesome. Um, but there's a whole generation where thenumbers went through the roof and there's this whole generation nowbecoming adult, that's the next the big problem now or the next area is,there's a lot of things and mechanisms in place now for Children to get helpright away to get into, to get one on one tutoring hand over hand maybe youknew everything else. But when they become adults, there's nothing, sothat's sort of like jobs, independent living or some type of assistant living,something that makes them feel independent and that's the next bigproblem. Yeah. Like even high schools and colleges are doing more programsfor kids that can help them socially and and be part of their collegesbecause she, I think she, that's what really is afraid to leave home and totake that next step, you know, And I'm trying to tell her like just do onlineschool, just, you love to learn, you get great grades, just do online. Butyou know, I'm not a parent. So you know, the other aspect of that is there, youknow, like I said, assisted living, assisted, you know, something with alittle bit of an assistance in short flourish. But um, you know, that's likeI said with asperger's, a lot of those kids are sharp and really, really not,you know, mentally like put them in front of a keyboard and let them go intheir own independent world. They're like individual world. They're fine.It's that social aspect that, that does give them problems, but you need todevelop that a little bit and yeah, I'm not, I'm not an expert on it, but it'sjust really for those that don't realize the numbers one out of, I think it's, I think it's like one outof 37 boys is on the spectrum. Yeah, it's it's really the numbers are crazy.That is crazy. So how can our fans and people are listening, help you andcontribute to your foundation? Go to Flutie Foundation dot org. Um, you canmake donations online. We have at least five annual events if you want, ifyou're in the new England area especially and want to participate involunteer. We welcome that. We have a road race, We have a gala. We have allkinds of events and things that are my background is I don't like the stuffyblack tie affairs. So whatever it's gonna be fun, I have a feeling you'redoing a lot of drumming at those functions. You know, the really coolthing and this is cool. You know, we're in the boston area, We've all grown up.There are most of them. Um my band will go set up and we've got guys from J Geils bandcome in and sit with us. We've got guys from Aerosmith. We've got guys from theband boston. I'm looking at a picture over my shoulder right here. Uh threeof the members of the band boston that played with us one night. Uh you know,it just really, we've had a lot of fun and the band thing too. It's just beenwe've played with guys. We played with Leonard Skinner. We played withMarshall tucker. We played with that is open incredible. And so I've been onstage with bon Jovi and you name it, is that more nerve racking or playingFootball in front of 80,000 people? When I first started doing it, it wasnerve wracking. Now you're fun and think about the drums is you don't getbeat up and you never lose is what is right, and if you have a bad night, theaudience probably doesn't even know your band made to do after you gobackstage. Help. Were you smoking the night? Yeah, right. But I know ourfriends at 1631 Digital News put an ad up on their site in D. C. to supportyour foundation and Terry Terry was behind all that. So we want to help youany way we can, but you know, I just want to say, you know, we never reallymet uh we played the sport a long time and I'm really a fan you your careerwas amazing, I mean for God's sake, you were named the greatest CFL footballplayer ever. I mean the greatest, I mean that's amazing to me, thank you.And that league's been around a long time. It's been a shoot, it was over100 years. It's been around a lot longer than the NFL has been around andthere are some legends of that game up there. I got to know a lot of thelegend guys from up there, there's a sweet, there's a soft spot in my heartfor the Cfl. I love getting back up there to games. It's just it was really,really a cool experience. You know I I know it's eight years that I spent outof the NFL. Yeah, I haven't changed anything for the world class. Well Imean there's not many players that have gone to both and I was reading likewere you and Sean linda to where the um something about the last two NFLplayers right like that. I can't remember the company and I were USflthat's it, that's it, that's what we're us. So I got USfl in Canada and NFL andand Sean and I were the last ones in the league from that. And the thingI'll say about the USFl, we had Reggie...

...white, jim, kelly, steve young herschelholds Kent whole perennial pro bowler. 15 guys from the USFl the year of the U.S. Still folded up. 15 USFL players play in the NFL Pro bowl the next year.That's crazy. Well they did, you were like the highest paid rookie that whenyou went to U. S. F. L. So that was awesome. I mean your dad was probablylike, wait what? How much are you making? I see I was because of myheight, I was a real question mark in the NFL and Buffalo was talking abouttaking me as a higher draft. I was anywhere from the first to 1/7. Theydidn't know what to do with me. And then when I signed with the because theUSfl was a sure thing for me. When I saw the NFL took a deep breath andrelax. They were like, okay good, we're not gonna because they didn't know whatto do with me. They didn't know whether me, whether I was going to be a freeagent. They didn't know what. So it worked out. Yeah. It all worked out.You had an amazing career. You're doing some amazing things now. The Foundation,everyone can go to. It's Doug flutie foundation dot org foundation dot org.You'll find it. Yeah, you'll find it. You can go help him out support hiscause it's amazing. Maybe you can catch him and his brothers out playing musicone night with, you never know who they're going to have their, I mean,you never know who's gonna be in the crowd. Uh Yeah. So, and if you want togo down to, what is it? Melbourne? You want to go shark hunting with Doug?He'll take you out on the paddleboard. You guys can go shark hunting and havesome fun. But your career was amazing. I appreciate you joining me on how toup with gusts and uh, you know, maybe we could do it again sometime after theseason and talk about all the good or bad quarterback plenty. You got Itsounds good. Alright, Thanks. Doug. I appreciate you coming on man. I lovethe background. Wait, who's the gold record. Who's that? I didn't get to askyou the record. Up top is an autographed original drum head from theband Leonard Skinner. Oh my gosh, three photographs, Jersey on, on Robin and uhtom brady autographed jersey on Batman. And my Leonard Skinner drum set thatthe drummer from Skinner JB 20 years ago. Wait, I'll show you the only drumI got. So I interviewed a guy named MarkSchulman, he's Pink. Mark Schulman's Pinks drummer. Nice. But also he wasthe drummer for Chicago as well. And so I interviewed him and and he sent methis cool drum. It was awesome. We had some good talks man, You're an awesomeguy. Thank you so much. I hope you win your league in baseball, throwing thosestrikes buddy. I refuse to walk anybody because he can't throw it over. I'mgonna tell you what my dad told me night kid, He said gus throw the firstone at their head and throw the next one over the plate and I'll always be astrike. He was the middle guy. That's how you played back then. But hey, Iwant to thank Doug for coming on and joining me. I appreciate everyone.Listen to huddle up with gus check us out next week on super dot events. Youcan go to sounder FM and listen to my podcast or wherever you listen to yourfavorite podcast and also I wanted to let you know that we're gonna bestarting a contest here that when people sign up and they come on tosuper, they can subscribe and like, and then you get to come on and do asegment with me and my guests, which will be a lot of fun. So everyone, Iappreciate you listening. Uh Jacky, I see you're on there. I hope I said yourname right this time but have a great night. Doug. Thank you so much. Andwe'll see you next week on how to up with Gus. Welcome to what surely willbe a doozy of a matchup brian here, sports fans, whether your game is onthe gridiron at the diamond or on the links. We can only say welcome to this week's huddle up withgusts. 15 year NFL quarterback Gus parents, passion for sports has takenhim on the field and behind the bench is playing for seven NFL franchiseswith 114 TVs under his belt. Gus knows who the players are and how the gamesare one. Uh, it's not every day you get to hang out with an NFL quarterback up.Okay, Sports fans from the decked out and plush 16 31 digital studios, It'skick off time. So snap your chin straps on, get ready to huddle up with strangevariety. But again, a big play two left.

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