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Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

Episode · 2 years ago

David Hanson

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Former NHL player and star of the 1977 classic "Slap Shot", Dave "KILLER" Hanson joins the huddle. We talk; pranking Paul Newman, Dave's NHL and minor league experiences, and how to use foil in a fight or at a BBQ. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Times, which, u know six seven eightgrade, and then you started playing more organized sports with a stillcommunity run right once Yo got in high school, then you ere playing k. yourhigh school organize sports. That's what's great about youth! Is that youknow today it's all organized yeah, but whenwe grew up so much of my youth was unorganized just going and getting yourbuddies, and it's not like that today. It drives me crazy. Well and that's howyou learn. You learn the thing that you don't learn in in a structured practice:Everyday organized parents in the stands: It's not you don't learn thoseLott ofse lifeskills at an early age and helps you become good. Teammatesand COM become competitive and and understand. You know what it means tojust get a bunch of guys together and play for the fun of it and not have toworry about parents screaming in the stands: orightcoaches going watgoin the benches yeah. So so then you played all three sportsgrowing up. I played everything too and then, as you got older, you know, Iknow a lot of the kind of hockey they kind of fade away and they just stickto hockey. So when did when was that transition for you of of saying I'm notgoing to play these other ones and and stick to hockey that happened after I graduated? Oh really, ecauseactually again back, then your seasons were your sports seasons?Were your sports seasons? Yeah! I played baseball by the time I got inthe NN seven ight ninth grade. I went from playing being a running track andwrestling and and playing football baseball hockey to a three sport youhad in Finlilg, yeah and actually hockey of all things. Even though wehad a lot winners in the scale lot, I was I thought I was moving on to playcleto football. That was that's. Where really I had a couple opportunities togo: Ot and Playo know cagh on Fotball, as things would work out oo, the sprink ses. You got the fallfootball winter spring, ane graduatin in the spring, cousein high school, allspring base ant baseball and a terrib ankle slightin second bag. Oh yeah,it's my ability to ride was hampered. You know that kind of held me back, ranmoving on the football, and so I just kind of ended up, naturally goingtoward talk and Hervy brops at the University of Minnesota, recoided meand among other schools. Fortunately, butyou know, play for heavery voks and play for the golfers ind of been therea,yeah kids dreamin, Minnesota, yeah andsoicnso. Then you play all these sports. Did you kindof know where you were going to go to highschool wel yeah were right, O right, Ou everybodyweside of St Pauigschool AsciySCOL was Humban. Everybody on the west side went to humble, but how big was humbold? I think mygraduation classes Westen toarer kid so so on that wasn't huge. Actually, wewere probably one of the smaller city schools in the SAMT Post Cityconference yeah. We play against the big schools,harding Johnson, you know when you played football, you know they had thatspecial team. They diad an oufseparate, offense or defense, an for specialteams this and that our football team everybody played both ways yeah. Well,when I played in high school, we had at my junior way eighteen my senior yearad nineteen O my team. Well in my foot, my football team yeah. So wasn't verybig, so you never left the field which I actually I love the you know, becauseif you're there, you maght as ell play yeah. So you go to humble you playdthree sports. You played baseball, basketor and hockey. Now what was that really like when youtransitioned between all those ports? For me it was like an you know. I justhad fun and football. Then I was going to basketball and baseball. How was that for you? Because I know alot of kids go through that and and they have to go from playing a sportthat they really like an when they might not like, but they really enjoy.You know they want to say active, and now it's even getting worse. Kids areonly playing one sport but Ronyeah and plan O youroundit. They kind of getbarn out. Yeah burn out injured, moreoften right yeah. Why do you thinkthat Isyour multi sport athlete and and the muscle groups that you use and forone sport are necessarily same muste groups or Prenominan muscle groups, Ouseit for anothers port? So I think it help you just develop pticallydifferent to be able to work instead of O exampeoin plain Hockin. Se Me Your Naocall Thetimea Youuire Ik Plan F, one oftheBGGEST prolemsle. I see that like Al...

Ort Tenig, my son gave his best friendfrom high school. We Li S, Louis L, Martin Lik e left e ewent to live with a family and Livdin Michigan, and he was only playing it. Wasn't yeahhs Yi till thinke, Kijoy IGH schooland. Doit all er Goa findthe a a Wat, my son, my son, left its birtischool reabut after that pointhe could havemeearlier, but we just felt inte family. You need to enjoy this pointy other ASE in yourlife. He would miss the city of the dancesyeahlike that you Gotayougota Gowthe, get to thepoint. Where think it's NOTGOOD NOUGHER WE GOTA soDetroit right right, even like your in itbr right, Cwen, O smallomccoupVhstaon. I went to Joe Bote Metro innext football camp that a the onlyway I was recognized. You know, but if you're good they're going to find a socompetitive I' the other issue, there's so much an stuff inpeti everybodythinks tho get a get the XA. Yet right. If you're good enough, you have you n.You got some of the National God, Given Abilities, n the physical, the physicalabilities and mental capabilities, and you need some deboman. You find outtherways, but you can do that at home. So how did you so you play three sports.What was your greatest high school experience like and you play MultipleSports? Did you wany championships? No, we were small school. We like, I saidevery kid we didn't have enough players Tho to have a couple different squads. Wehad one squad, anready playd, both ways. So it was, you know we always middle.The pack would, in football, were able tocompete against the big schools, but we wouldn't win what positiond you playfootball. I was a running back, an a line backer, an I which one do you like:Better I'll Fucyo back Y, like o Yo like running back better, but I wasbecause we ran to sing a wing right, yeah Ahow, any school in one thousand,nine hundred and seventy two to be running the same. Probably in thenation, Oroun a single wing- and I was there- was no there's no finenta aboutme and we just did op right tap and I just put my head down push the guy infront of me and just go all throughs, God yeah. I ran to Delaware, wing teaand Coch in high school. That was old, cool yeah, you know and and we neverran chot gun. I got the college, I'm like what is this yea? You know isalways understand. fres and but single wings are good author, it's kind ofit's similar, but you're doing a little more out shot op yeah. That was cool. Ilove it, but you know love. So we didn't. There was no rol real greathighlight, you know, played againt some great ball playerswhich youre kind of cloled Mealli Bocka Gai an Oolli Bochan was yeah wat the,but he was with the baggage ty she went up Tho. Can I think, and Playa lit itto so you I played against Olli and there's another great example: Allahuge football player, but also eas a goaldtener and hockey played againstModigh school hockey and and he played first bace in baseball yeah. So He u,he was flexible. He was flexil, but he was a. He was a manimum boys, but youknow Dave Wentfield play against it. Yeah High School and amazing talk aboutAntimidyan an he was a pitcher than to e, really yeah. So hehes gonna see thatbig foot coming off hes Oll my guys going to step on my head, a footlandall sudden, a ball with by your nose. Yeah like well Lheys, I didn't see it.o Yeah worry abouthaw. So did you get recruited for other sports?I did. I got recruited for football, an an acur for hockey, Wasnat that goodand baseball player yeah. So I again I thought I was actually, though I wasgoing Ouf to Mexico to play Football...

University, New Mexico and then, like Isaid things worked out and up going Playn, not yeah. You wanted to stayd inthe cold. you want to go down ti arm down the down and south orm stuff. Soall right! So now you just kind of said her record recruited. You and you sayhim going there. Did you look at any other schools yeah? I was beingrecruited by Wisconsin O. You know another go play for the badgers toanother hugs drawn and and a lot of DC schools, but the d once was MinnesotaWisconsin and I think Colorado. I recall yeah well, Colorado wouldn'thave been up there in hockey. Would they well yeah it wer pretty good. Nowthedivision one program e Wer GD, but yeah the two two monthss in Minnesota,Wisconsin yeah, and then you played how many years rein college I, with her, beI spent a year and a half. I wasn't Gono enough to make. The BAR CIDIO wasin patient. You know an eighteen year old kid, and so I spent a year year there didmake Tivas team play Dada, JV team- and so here I am, you know: big aspirationswith Pecgo firs logo on my chest and a plaing against Cinaman's league ans,soutof, South Sait, Pauland, yeah, smaller school s, over Te, JV team andand wile. At the same time, my w bunch of my buddies were much better meplaying playing a bar seat, team and Wannin, a you going on internationalchampionships and and yet we're all running. The Football Stadium Statesand wayt o invest on getting ther butt skated OUP by Herbe right. So I just said a patient. So I, afterthe first year going into the second season, I decided to go and play a yearjuior hockey. What a national championship Woch worked out. Greatthen Liis that with Iwas called the sint Paul Ball. Oh yes, yeand, then,right from there I signed a contract of WHA was about ther third year intheexistence, which was the rivalty with a national higk league, and I got gotdrafted by Detroit and I got drafted by the Saint Bau Saints, which wereplaying right out of sit Paul Minnesota and I signed with the Saints Well Anyou twenty years old, inm, professional hockey, player and yeah, and that wasthe stuffyou really. You didn't really have that college experience ut. I wasthat Talse for five years yeah I wasn't leaving early. It wasn't good enough,you know an higsight, I mean. If you know, if you look back and whuld yousay, would your right to stray a little different and maybe that would havebeen something I would have stayed in school yeah. But on the flip side ofthat I've had a great life in the path that taken yeah and an you know. I wasreall one of your quotes that about how hockey's kind of changed it's likeevery other sport. I think you know it's not as physical anymore. It's not,as you know, I wouldn't say violet but kind of youknow. It's definitely changed and when you were younger just was thatjust part of the game yeah at part of the pro game yeah going up through highschool. Obviously you were not. You could play physical and I was one ofthe more physical players in high school, but you couldn't fight becauseI a see thing you right, throwing Ou, yeah the game and a game after God intojunors. As little more accepting you know, we played the major junior eightteams out of Canada, which was you know very physical teams, of course, in thefcourse of the plan. Americans. You know they want to be TA, Bunny Americanright right right and we had establish ourselves. Bey. AH, fighting was part of the partof the game there and I grew up in a neighborhood where you know streetfighting wasn't uncommon and I used to unfortunately get fortunate over evenlook at it be involved in that kind of that stuff, and so it kind of preparedme, and so when I got into juiors, you know the fighting became a corner stonein my game, yeah and and then certainly t helped. Ropel me Sima, where the COLstarted not well started: Actiol y first year, ofpro, Oh really y yeah, retty Uny to Owso like so I know likewhen you go in and you probably when you sag with the saint there's, got to be some hazing, someinitiations going on for a young twenty year old, coming in there's, probablysome older guys that are part of Tha there I mean we did that in the NFL.I'm sure you have some some good. Maybe one good story about what happened toyou when you first came into well, you know the pros the great part about it,and yet still the surprising part about it is when, when I signed, we also hadthree other big tough brothers, the Carlson brother right who were whobreally the handsome brothers an slapshutter. I right right, so you hadfour guys that were probably the toughest guys on the middlesortofphonin saints team who were all tight and close together. Yes, I neveridso obody was going to mess with us...

...and we watch each other's back. So it'strue through my rookie year, none of us got really yeah yeah back then it couldbe pretty pretty tortuous, because I was part ofa hazy group later, Oh yeah, the Beterwell. That's what happens whenI went to college. You know before they kind of got rid of all the hazing Iaways have, and then you kind of it's almost like a tradition, and it's neverreally that bad. Some guys take it to the next level. That's why it all gotshut off. It was more of an II initiation or something like that. Idon't know if you know at Shadyside Academy, John Johnson, do youknow John O. I know he was on pretty good hockey. playeres from my highschool play, Jo he's Tha, head coach over Chany side academy now and he'stold me some stories when he first went to like junior hockey and things likethat. Some of the hazing stories he had yeah, always just cone, flowr rookie,Shaves, yeah, yeah yeah, I've shared the few guys had so yeah. It wasn't.Ony Had Tho Guy Shit, yea other body, weare rusty, blades right with rusty,blades Ta, no shaving cream. That's pretty funny.Probably the worst thing I ever did was. I took coach turners son and I tapedhim up to a chair and put him in a shower. While we went to practice yeayeah little Scotty Turner he's actually a coachng now in the NFL, but no bout you know norh would bring himto every practice and- and he would just annoy guys now myselfBrian Mitchell, tarry o and you know we got and we said: Hey Scotty, Cam Aranand we just taped him up to a chair, a D we put him under a shower N. nortgoes hey we're Scott and bra goes on o. Now we haven't seen him coach. It wasin a Shwhour the whole time so, but I took my sons to all the practices andthey got like Adren petient Peterson used to put him in a box and tape themot, so yeah, Richi and Cognito used to torture, Hem yea, but I'm like hey. Youguys want to come its. What happens? That's Great Yeah! So then you you soafter the Sant you went. Would you go after that? Well, afterit's funny the Saints The Saints folded twice. While I was with them right,yeah and you know so. The saints went to the minor legs back up to the saintsback to the Mior Lage back up to sants. They folled went to the Mior Leaguetayfolded, the team at CAS, their farm team right and moved Oun. I end upsigding with the New England. Walers still in the wj played a few games withthem and it came out and then ended up going to detroyt, red wings and sign utTor Organization and so adfortunate playing Yoow, someof, Detroit and or ofor stars a little bit, and so you ow. I had a tenure careerthat gave me a couple cups of Coffean, NHL and right, a couple season to WHJand and you ow had a Ghris some great times in Mio League for ten years. So through all of that, were you marriedyet or yeah? I got. I got pretty much married. I got married at twenty twomet, a girl when I, the farm team of the saints, was in Johnston,Pennsylvania right and met my future wife to be my first year there, and- and she was you know she give her. Godbless her soul. She went along o Ride Er my first year, marriage, I playedfor four different teams: BEFOUR different cities, wow, you know and shehung in there for three of them a d. She said, I'm going back to Ta Nannigoright outside yeah. I know I know where it ise well, yeah my wife's mother lived in Indiana on afarm and so her boyfriend, Dr Leeb, was from thatarea. Nanny Clo Allha, like there yeah Evinsburg all that area. I know itreally well wellthat's a shock r yeah, so I grew up kind of close to thatanyway. So yeah, I saw the thooth from nanny glady. Ah so you guys beenmarried for a long time, God married in seventy seven wow wow, so you're comingon what how long it's that Igon have this terrible foryea forty got o wellforty five ish one five years: that's Great Yeah we're going on twenty fivemyw yeah. So it's been really good. So I think that's really interesting,because one of my things was th. I took my family everywhere I played forseventeen and fifteen years and we traveled you know, seem like every yearwe were moving, get a new house and doing all those things and you kind ofhad that similar. So when did you have kids had kids when I was three yearslater, twenty five and Tryi to think I was actually at the time with Detroitredwings plan for their marlite team in Glensefells New York up near LakeGeorge and yeahbut in there. So my action, although my first Darter,was born up in Detroit up in deerbarn Michigan Yeahit, the rid links, but...

...literally three weeks into after shewas born, I'm on a plane. I got traded to Birminham an a WJ and- and you knowmy wife and child came along and so ye we we had the same thing. We affect what I say is enoth that tenyurespan every profeshion league that exists in those ten years. I played youtouched it yeah. You were part of it yeah, so we start out with just a car.Then we got the van and we got the van and pulled the wagon right. It's rightfinally end up getting. I do Youhall Yeah, we've done all that and we lovewe hardly ever flew anywhere. We drove everywhere ejaust just kept US tighter,Oh yeah yeah. You know it's just nice being a family and I always try to tellyoung guys that is be with your family. Don't don't like, because a lot of guysin ML bring their kind of friends still round and all that and but they havefamily and then they'l leave and then the divorce raig the NF fell likeeighty five percent. You know a pro athlet your seat. You get to spend solittle time as it is even with your FTO. If your family's with you right and Godforbid your family's in different city and you'R youknown you're, not thereright the whyhad family right exactly. Why that's what I always tell h m? Whyhave family you know because when you're done they're going to be therefor you and you better take you know, do everything you don't get to knowbecause all of a sudden you're sitting in a room and there's these people, youdon't really know and yea okay. What am I going to do and it happens to a lotof guys, so you had kids so wi. What part ofyour? Where were you in your career? When youkind of got approached to be in the movie it was? It was literally ar first my first year pro Johnston and we had a. We had to call some brothers playingmyself there, so you had three carls and brothers Dave killer, Hanson, yeahand then the whole slew of characters and this league that we played in andyou know, every game. It was a fight or a benchclary brawl and- and you know, agroup of characters, they were verly characters. You know which, when youtalked about all the game, is ofvolve. That's when the unfortunate hing aboutI think about the game today. Is You just don't? Have the personality Y hadback and do not allow to be formed plan Ou Kno, it's almost the social mediakind of claps all dona to right, but also you know we were playing and, and one of our teammates had a sister who was a screenplaywriter and he's at Nancy. Ho was Nancy Yeaas. He Dow Ned Dallas playing withus a bolden graduate very intelligent. His Dad was unte contract with the SNTLois blows and, and he calls her up one night and says you can't you neverbelieve where I'm mat these guys on the team and the SNILS ush clothing, andthis an Annhe's telling a whole story, and she says well who wants Ta Team MLand Hesas? I do'nw who wants the team which she says El, so she came and visited for a few weeksat saw this and hung out like a barfly. You know here and thereerwound and thelight went off and she started writing a script and he used to tape. Hosto sitin the back of the bus and we'd, see him holding his hand up and find IUT.We houd cost Hem and pulled out and he's recording all this stuff, yeah hesactivities and center off to tase, so that scrip is written, probably morebased on fact and fiction and Ood k just kind of elaborateed a little bithere and here, but and so pretty much that summer the script got picked up.Ned got hired by the tthe studio to go O and and start finding actors orteaching actress how to skate right to play these roles, and he had guys, like nicknulty PeterStraw, Tani most bunch of a listed actress back entrying for these roles and it couldn't skate they could he could each o yeah and fina. They got so frustrated thethey be a ned and Nancy finhey went to the producers and the director said:want you just go back to Johnstown and let these guys try to be themselvesright, and so they approach us. They would have been in their second season.Seventy, seventy six, seventy seven that they approached us and one of thebrothers got called up to Eminton, so he wasn't available. So they had thetwo brothers on myself because we all live together, yeah and they set usdown in a room like this in front of a table and gave us a couple lines toread: N. We read them and and there's nothing elaborat about it andlater on, they come back so thati'd like to be in a movie: Oh okay, sure Wy,not yeah. Well, not otherwise we're just going home and playing softballand drinking ber this summer right- and so you know soon, as even beforethe season then and weare to playus, we were doing, we were Filmang stufyeah.So when you were filming was it? Were...

...there a lot of takes, or did you yeah?There was a lot of take specially when we started out, because we obviouslyweren't actors, we were' very good at hat right d and You kN W. We got to thepoint where the Director Fu George Ihil, actually was another mill sort of boy and didn't know much about hockey. Butyou know great director Butch Casting Your Sundance carry yeah lot o. Hefinally stopped thanks and he he said you know guys. This kind of something'swrong here so let's take a different approach: His as set up. U Kno, here'sthe Syne, here's your lines, but what would you guys normally do somethinglike this right and we kind of said Wello. We might do this and I sais wel.Let's give Thatt a try and from that point nine he just let us ad Lem asmuch as we want. We just had follow that Ad Tey just kind of came offsmoothly, so the NE thing about is, we became so relaxed and was such a jokeand fun for us, that's how we came across and it just so. A lot of the thesimple takes were one or two, because it was like right on right. But then,when you did, he things like you're going up into the STANDE and you nowwe're fighting people up there. That's what it took all day, Foroh yeah thathad proby were on you, yeah, where its Kates, climbing overthelall, I mean wehad to be onset. Yoknow six in the morning make up get the foil on ahockey equipment on and this man and then you just sit there all day, longCowe to to realy ready for you, and sometimes you know ten twelve hours later they say. Well,that's a rap. What do you mean? It said the shee do what the were doing ittoday, we're supposed to be on now we'll get you to yeah that wouldn'tmake you guys very happy. You know you couldn't go outside for fear of gettinga suntank because they wanted to have the white winner. Oh Yeah, looked on you and right. So there's alot of limitations till where w twenty year old kids started getting Ottl. Wasit in your offseasoners a doing the season was right. We had finished hisseason and then wisen our offsin, so would have been because we had lost inthe semi finals of the championship. We went a championship year before and weactually picked the winnher championship this year and we shouldhave, but I really think we got distracted because we were film withsome of it during Ri Ofse, but then once the playoff season in was fullbore, pool Bor yeah April made June. So I always wanted like it seems. Like you know, it's a sports movie andsports teams are always really close. Yeah you know. Was it like that on setwith all the actors and actresses like did you get to know to everybody?Really? Well Wiou, you y? If you ever look at any of the last in the past,foage of Paul Noma when hit gets interviewed on this on the movie or youknow anything, that's written a bottom. The won he says about this movie isthis is the most funny ever had in all the Moie Se may was because of thisright and that's what it was. It was again you yea H, Yo d, Two thousand andtwenty one uand nine Tueen Twenta twenty one year old, wore kind of, eventhough we weren't the main focus of the film yeah. You know we made an impranto big TI. It was the same way off camera. We were farting around and Tatgonna ask you O to guys full prank. We started pulling Foris your favorite one.Did you ever pull in on Paul? Oh Yeah, did you really Whul d? YOU DO TO HIMYEAH! Well, when Paul came into town Paul, like hisbeer yeah like this beer, so he drink iron sit. He did no course Faoh, really Sol yed an yeah, 'Z, yesv cord flown in a TSA big cours, drike yeah turn a budwiser so yeah, sothey renid out the art, the team's doctor's house up in West Min right,and then he stayd had a room at the hotel wher. We all stayed at, but he sothey built a son in a hotel just for Paul just for Pol so many drinking atnight. He wants to get up Yeig Hemgt it outprety physial, yeah, Ou, sweat itall out in the wares Yeahso, so hen I were Paul, wasn't Leth us, butwe're in the hotel bar having a few adult beverages right Aniisays to the guys ASIS. I got an ideaes because they were serving popcorn onthe bar got to know the bartende pretty well, and and so, where do you get thepopfom? So we got bags of it in the back said: Philly EA, so we stuck intothe back, took his shoes bag to pop and went out to Paul Sana and filled itwith poponoh yeah. I mean we just you know shove, SOS full of popcorn, sothinki this wuld be great. You know when Paul Hits Asiny Jus Geta it of never heard a word about. He didn't saya word. Nobody said I didn't say a word about it right. So if Thi Goon Jees, Idid he not take a SONA DI tecleani crew, Gen ier. What happened it didn't workout so we're up in we're doing a night scene up in the trobe yeah, where thebuses, the boaster club bus, pulls up and our bus pulls up and we all gorunning out we're swapping with the booster clob right right right. So it's late at nigh, we're tired andagain it's Takun so much time between...

...shooting the same yeah so we're youknow again popat some beers and this and that- and we say to Paul again, we like to pullprank so we're thinking the only people i's going to be. There is a camera crewand a director, an e riht. That was you know because it's like three in the morningyeah it's lite Soe Sa Hate Paula got a great idea: Yeah Wergona! Let's all take all our clothesoff, I'l go running out and whenwe go running out over be shocks with Veryas,naked and right. The Busher Club busts are a bunch of people out of town ordcors wives. Lord Right Ighah. I, like that's a good pals, that's a greatideai! We hear action on the radio and the bus come rolling down. We Stop Wherwe're supposed to stop. We got tit, we strup our clothes off. We go runingaround we're jump around we're laughing we're. You Know Jiggling this and thatand well look around and I swear the entire time on the tro bas there, grandma GRANDPA's grandchildren, aunts,uncle's Mom's, dad to Mari this, and that we're looking around Goo. We turnaround a newmans up in the windol lap and he says paybacks a bitch boys he got you back got is bad, that'spretty good! THAT'S PRETTY GOOD! You can't pull one over Paul, no yeah!That's awesome! It's so what an experience it had to be for you like,and then it mean you think about all the transitions you were going throughand you know after that did te de everyteam you had to go to. They had to like that. Every guy had to watch that everyperson w played against Wel you you know and again we had Weereo thoand antwenty on year. Old Kids had no idea, you know and it hit the theaters andback then you know: Moies tod go to the movie said therrunand. I was Yeoun of it. You did't, unless they happene o get ou TV yearslater. Bu. You know, I think we set the record for F pom, O right right way.Yeah, you need no way youere getting on, but yeah. You know it came out. It cameout February. Seventy seven so we're in the middle of our hockey season. So ofcourse, now you know all the hockey teams areseeing it near you're lining up against opposing players and and they'rethrowing lines at you yeahso after the game, yeah exactly o Blake, yeah n Tat,but the most fun I that came out of thet was again my style of play. Didn'tlet me to be a favor just for the opposing fans and stuff right and sowe're playing on playing down in Dallas after the movie came bout and came outand and Dallas hated me to begin with inthe fans and had a reputation so were skate around and as usual, the fans andwarm ups are just Givin it to me and this so yeah I just wouldn't acknowedge.I you know you go on and finally a turn. It's going to look up, an entiresection had the glasses and the fake nose on and they did really ome brotherbooster club and it was it just youknow on those hilarious moment. Oh that'sawesome, toff, Gard, yeah, and that I mean what a career that's helped. Youturn in yea you and the Carlson brothers here well, and you know SteveCarleson, O K, Jeff Carlson was Jeff in the movie and n Wright, Jack Cancon andWor, with myself and Steve Carlson, so Jeff, Jack, Jeff and Jack were steves.Brother were big, tough, fornary, buggersan yeah, you know, and so I tookJack's roll. He went to Aviton Steve, didn't have to fight Steve, wasn't afight, he was actually the baby of the group and he had these two otherbrothers that played on his wing and everybody touched Steve Hand a dealwith Jeff and JE. Yes, he just became a goal. SCOR yeah, so Steve, says yeah.This movie helped me a lot because teams would sign me, and I think I wastough and everybody else thought I was tough. So nobody would bother me SIYC,but I was a whip yeah, but you know Ted Lindsey who who wasthe GM of Detroit at the time right? When the movie came out, you K, ow interrible tall, wash a tough bug when he played yeah. He signed me to a five year: Contract Nand the slogan of the hockey team than you was the same sloga we had inslapther, which was aggressive, hockeyis back in town, yeah, Detroibin,so n kind of Helpe. My propate kind of helped now did did like those people that were in themovie with you, the other actors. I mean not the players, but the actors,Te deyver come WANC. You play anywhere else yeah, they whatdever you dowith afew guys like struther Martin, yeah idio man would come on and see jeff play becausehe lived oun in the West Coast and Jeff played on the West. coasty he' see Jeffplay and and couple the other guys. The Guy Tha played her cab to JohnnyUpton His dad his grandpa actually played for the Montreo Canadians andthe wild. 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...together and it was and there's there'sthe standard was you would film? You would film that day they take thefilm, send them off to New York, get Um, develop, bring them back the next dateAir Mail in the next day, and then so Paul Nowman George Royhale and DD Allen.Who was the editor which an e writer was set up late at night and watch what they call the dailiesyeah go through and say: Yeah we like that. Now we better shoot that one overnow we don't want to use that piece and so the three of us, you know juff SteveMyself Heard About Thas going on, and so what can we sit on watch et, so wekind of snuck in the back door e next thing. We know we end up having a wholecrew there and it turned into a big beer party and it became that becameinregular, and that was unheard of I heard of it afterwards. Really S isnever would happend, you know, but you guys kind of made us happen and it justkind of brought it Oll together and all that's awesome. Yeah, THAT'S AWESOME!So you finish your your your movie career your hockey career, and then youstarted your family. Where did you go after? You were done playing ockey whenI got done playing hockey. I ended up. My last season was in Toledo, Ohio andit's kind of goes back to Australia. I spent I spent a month one night intoLeto. That's how Thaa experies right Ou now and so when my season was ending. I waspretty banged up, wish pretty disappointed on where the career wasgoing, and you know I got a call from actually a fella in Minnesota in St Pau,who was good friend of mine and very closely togo for program and and and a guy actually played with bredBeauta with a head coach and h. He called me up and he says: Davi is ere.Looking for an assistant coach, you want to, you want to come back toMinnesota coach and I'm Tinki cleat it hockey the go fers. You know anOpportuni to go back to school, you Knoandtu to go back home. Yeah.Absolutely I says: Yo CNI follow us here and old. Nabis got all the styles.You need right now with up to fifty percent off stoor wide hurry in for theseason's biggest trends like rock star Jeans and Frost, Free Jackets on sale,Jean started just eighteen, bucks for adult twelve bucks for kids plus getwarm and stylish out or weare for just eighteen bucks for adults. SeventeenBucks for kids want to save even more redeem. Your super cash now throughSunday, hurry and now for up to fifty percent off storewide ad old Navyandold Navycom fell a TN twenty six o eleven three selectis only ca back inthe week go. Let me talk. Alit O with my wife and the bloss is a exactly so in the meantime. You know I thinkingthis is awesome. This is great icsays, but you know I'm going to call a fellowthat I met along the way who was a GM for me for a couple years when was wikeDetroit and at the time was the president of the Olympic Authoritymanaging the Olympic facilities. An Lik clacid yeah, but also had in his history, was one of the mostwinningness clegen hockey. Coaches of all time, as well as Lacrosse for Rpi,Oh yeah and and cornel, I said you know, I'mGoingna give him a call, get his a vice about CLECArightorsnatand. He says Davy Saystim great career move. You know, I had agreat time t he says, but I can tell you you know. If you're going to getback into coaching, just like a hockey player, don't plan astayin in one place to yeah. You know yeah, that's every sport yeah exactlyhe says. But let me let me give you something else to think about o aboutto come work. For me. IAWHA yeah come o work for MEA going wat. He says. Well,he says you know we run. The Lake plass Olympic faciliies here is for the stateof New York. Were I'm taking over another Scherio tat the states on ojust little bit south of us, which is just very close to where you played inglincefalls called Gorman. I said his name is net harkness, I says Nedi saysI' Neber I've skied one day in my life right when I was playing a Gug falland.I says I'll. Never do it again because I almost kille myself o towers right.He Ai, that you don't have to worry ski bus skiand. I said what e Doin so whave you do some PR stuff you getting a PR, and I is- and I didn't ven talk to mywife Bout. I says I says if I get a chance to work for you net. Absolutelythat's how much APANA TO ME YEAH! You know. So I gave up my hockey career and decidedto get into a business. I knew e absolutely nothing about. I had no ideawhat I was going to do. He en had no idea where I was going to Liy that kindof stuff and just unblind faith, and then one man packed up the family andmade a decision to go well. How Lo ere you there. I was with the ski area forseven seven years and then started missing hockey. I got a callfrom him. Actually in Oll people on days is listening. He says, I'm not I'mnot calling it because I don't want you to continue work for me. I want you tostay here as long as you want to stay.

You Got Jab for me with me and actuallyend up managing the place right S, but I got a call from somebody down inAlbany that owns a professional hockey team. The A minor league team from theNew York islanders are looking for a GM. They actually wanted. Me E said I'm notGoin Awhere, I'm the president of Elympicof Authority, Heri Right, I sothat recommended you and hey they bid on it. They want you to come for andwell so it was kind of one of those things where well. You know I got ayoung family got an opportunity, maybe to move out of the mount, because wewere literally ea in a mountains and a really rual area to get into something: littl future formy kids, a better school system, N Sports, etc, etce and back inthe hockeyright whith. You was a love that you just don't give up like the ball. YouDon Yoa, you lwas Gon, to be in it someon made a decision and went to workfor them. So then you became a gn yeah and then you, you move. That was aislander Farkina, asoother farmer or playing out of Twi New York at the timeright and then after that werd because well that's and just like you know, Ishould have just like all GMS and you get hired to be fired right right.So it was with so the honors had to farm team. I was independent franchiseon in American Hockeyey Yeah and you know, basically least, to the islanders.Tye allers put your team in there, so they were there for two years and then they decided to move to Salikcity. I went and talked to Le Lammro. The New Jersey, devils right say: wantyou get out of Outuca, come to Albany, we'll go into a new ARRENA, which was aNickabacke wea just got built over and allbuty big, beautiful, Cility andrecruited them to come in and was had them come in and and wrigtabout. Thet new ownership bought the franchise. It was a local guy in Sherisbusiness and he wanted. He wanted to name the team, the AlbanyDalmatians, because he had two Dalmatians and he loved Dalmatians and he want them. He wanted uniforms tobe white with black spots, really ye H and even on. As far as saying you knowwhat I think, if, like that, dogg years on the helmets, I mean it's got, youknow and I'm nd I'm trying to explain them. You ow, you know to the businessyou Kno, it doesn't happen this way you know so I says we want to create ourown identity for merchandise, sale, Deceson, but we can't be the DAWLMA andcan't be the delevations, and so so that kind of you know wane a littlebit. So I created this logo called a river, an the Albany River. It rightand I unveiled it to his surprise, got ahuge response. It's awesome, anhe fire. He fired you. He fired me because I didit without his knowledge that he wanted to dalmations. The logo went on to bethe number one selling logo and minor league hockey the next season, but what Yo ell? Sometimes you can't?Even you know they can't see the forrd o of the trees, because they're socaught up in what they want. Yeah. So you know about him was so he wasn't ahockey person hockey guy was in insurance business, very support of the community W onthose guys that don't realy write the community this and that but yeah thatwould have been a that would have not been good call them the Dalmatian. Ididn't think so. So then, now you're Robert Morris and you're at theirfacility at nuble island. How long have you been there been there for twentyyears there we opend the doors, inninety,eight the're, doing a construction phase and thin tro niney seven. It was.It was a project that was Developen by subsidiary, the Hemen Company in theproperty down there and then five years into operationsis when Rober O Tyeah,it's a nice, it's a very nice trone yeah, very nice reason yeah. So youknow that that's makes amazing story. One of the things that we've tryd totell everybody is: is we all go through transition in our life and you caneiter look at thim as a positive or a negative, and you know er somethingelse coming and you got to enjoy the time when you're somewhere, just likeyou know, if you're a GM, so wor you're probbing, I'm going to be there foreveror coach, but you have to make the best of Itan and for me that's why I alwaystook my family is partly why you ato your family everywhere and Thowse warethe transitions. I think people need to understand because rage, OL and arstrong people don't see like if I thin his job their lives over. You know nosI can do, but that's not true, there's a lot you can do. You probably havemore experience and knowledge Thaneah. You just got bewno knock Ondoors,...

...wo back in the hottal with Dave, and we call us Oure, no Hobbel drill. Soyou know we're going to ask you some questions and answerm Hobbi watlongshort a Becu deal with it later, but one of the ones I want to ask you was:Who is your favorite currter and a Joelan? I gotto say sid because he can do itall. You know hat there's, not a game that you watch him that he takes off. Yeah N SI thison tjust GNAcruise he doandprobby, because maybe I got more of an educated iy and most ofthe sense I watchit an see, tha t little things that it doeswhen. Hedoesn't it's just it's tit's awesome he's a throllback player to I lelabusmigretskissome of those, the Hollos of those guys hat that took pride in andmaking sure that every game they give it on Effortworth e Ano watchigand. I really believe thI've met him a few times in a loco room and, and that was with Billy Garin n.He came right out, O lock or me. ASGAS got Soi want to here's a stick Tor yourdaughter, my daughter was a big pinwit fan, so he's just a genuine person toand on and off the EDGs. I think. That's you know. That's a that' agopicand the Nice thing you coal see he's a player when I say e's like athrowback. You know back in in the days guys guys played more for the loveorgame because they geting paid a lot of mone right right of, and you can seethat he loves a game and loves playing. againy is a side benefit of being ableto playyeah you? Don't you don't never see him. compar he's never going to behold out, hes kind of he's, gonna a the game ell. I think I'm just a me madesome soy sacrifices in order to build ansome of the Stana coup team, so theyculsign Sertin guys right right, all right so now so then who's yourfavorite forme and I jo Orma Cha you gotta, be Oryeah Likeiwelwhen. Igrew up. I WASA MINNESOTA MAR stars an Gogol forthesome of these guys at Igrew up watching, but we also had o w the only the only game theso show on TV,because I spend on time of sponsel e Black Ho soriors Bobbi all alte black,ok right, but when I had the opportunity to play a little bit withmosty men, cordy Ho yeah and just Standin it and Watchin ifty Somyo Lafifyld man do what he did and be the kind of person he was odid,O, say: Thatght Right, Ye actually hot to play with them to ye. Pretty Amazinggot to know later on years. Ye actually get a lot of stuff to get U Eprettygood forb Wrotin, I wrote a fuck White Poti set one the night, greatright ight. So what'syour thingspep pet peve yeah, I know you gotta have some in hockey I mean Wihockey, facewashing faceball, Shang Dris me crazy. I mean you know againback when I played a ND during that era. Anybody stuck to Glov in your face:either you dropped them or you know you had one of your teammates drop themyeah. It's you know it's facewashed is everybody can do it get away with itand then it's like when it's over with it just kind of stand and go away. YeahYeah, I'm sure that either call the penalty or let somebody punch him in aOyeah. You oldguyhate that Yit's awful all right so back to the movie. Whatwas your I mean? You know it in and out, but what was your acsolute favoritescene that you love about? The movie you don't have to be en? Not probablythe favorite scene was in the hotel room playing with the racecars yeah, because again a lot of that movies, based onfact so in real life. I lived on the third floor. The cossins lived on HAsecond floor in Atlanta, land, Lords, Lieon e first right, and so when we hada day off, we push all the furniture away up and above my floor yeight itput out the race track and we spend the afternoon playing with the race cars. So that's TAT's, True Transi Story, andthat you know I talked about somebody ID leve me ner. It did a little bit. Ihad let me near it right and where ste broke the car and I threw it so I'm notplaying anyway Ha, probably one of the better ones. No, that's awesome. Sothis is this is a ponone. We always like to ask and WHO's the most famous person in yourphone. If we had o scroll through it and look at it, who would come up andwe'd say, that's probably the most famous person in your fell well, Istill have Paul's number on my Phoneyeai. Can't call himyou can't callhem anymore outside of that jeezthat's.

That's a real good question, probably in the news right now could becoupa good and Junior, oh really, yeah, because he got nailed yeah. That was n't a good. The last picture Isaw him. Was it a good pitshe's, a good Actov, but he's got some por choices?Well, I think some of the fos always have for choice all right, so I'massuming you've seen the movie longest yard. Yes, so they're both iconicsports movies, right yeah, so you're oneind to right, which one if you hadto go pick one to watch right now, which one would you watch eithe slapshort along a Shard. I would probably watch slapshot yeah because I still laugh atslapshot yeah yeah, a lot of because I know a lot of the backstories too, butit's for a good two hours spent good twohours guide movie. That's got everything you want in it. Oh, it'svilence vulgarity, nutd right not to Pul, correct about it. Yeah you couldn't really get that inthejail with all guys, an moneyard right, but tha, two iconic actors and yeah.You know a lot F, a lot of the other lot of the same themes, sort of Ne of my r yeah, but I always saw thosetwo movies as very similar. In a way you know, as I kind of export Itmov, so one of the other things is. I had to ask you. So what is foil meantfor? Is it meant for fighting, or is it meant for barbecues? Well, it's too ful!That's the multiit's! The thing about when you're, when you're playing in aminor league, you find ways to do a variety of things, with limited numberof Stoft right yeah, so we put the foil out for the fice and it save forafterwards, when we have leftover S E, just wrap up the foil get on the, but that's awesome all right. Last one,since I'm from Pittsburgh play I Minnesota you're from Minnesota. Youlivein Pittsburgh. Now. What do you think? The better sports city isMinnesota, Pittsburgh or Pittsburgh? Yeah it' say Pittsburgh. I think theVikings got to kind of take that step and yeah they just haven't. I mean Iwas there during a but grant years with, the purple people, eaters andFrantartican, and Joe Cap yeah grew up just idolizing the bikings and justsuffering everybody else when they would get just get that farn and notwin yeah they' they've had so much talent, yeah and so many good teams andI just never kind of got overto it's not even like Cincinnati or Cleveland.You know what I mean: it's Lote, they're, just theire, a goodorganization or good franchise oit. Just never got over, we thought acouple F years ago. It might happen, but they just didn't get there. I meanSt Paul and Minneapis ar great sports talent. People love the Vikings. Theylove the the twins and the wilder. Now you know the northstars are back. Thenyou know I great avid colorful fans. You can't getmore cal right, I'm INNASOTA biking right, ragnor, yeah, Ragnar, that'sRighteah, lostbrook, but skull I mean that's, that's at Ai tostnow right, but the have'tg liven in Pittsburgh forover twenty years. Now I think the fans here just fanaticalyou know yeah they're great. I think S. I've been a pirate fan and I've beenstruggling with that yeah how many years since my dad used to lay anNaglider, and we listened to all the Games. Wot His transition, radio- andyou know I'm like come on it's kind of almost like we got to get back on topof a pirates. Ut still you know, theyre people still have that little wisp ofhope at. Maybe something will change and the back be back on top, but theystill followhem. They Still Co, always say we don't really realize how luckywe are here in Pittsburgh. You know to have the years of all the great hockeythe football you know, even the pirates of giness glimpse of hope, like yousaid, and it really is, I've lived in a lot of towns. This is one of the bestyeah, it's a fun city. Well, Hey! I appreciate you coming on your storiesand and taking the time with us and ill. Let you know when it comes on Ro re,going to break the huddle there and thanks to Dave coming on with us today,.

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