Huddle Up with Gus
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Darren McCarty

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Welcome to Huddle up with Gus featuring 15-year NFL Quarterback Gus Frerotte! Gus welcomes NFL hockey great Darren McCarty to the huddle and talk about how sports helped shape their youth, what professional sports was like from the players perspective and how life has been since playing. A Canadian former professional ice hockey forward, Darrian is best known for his years playing with the Detroit Red Wings of the National Hockey League (NHL). McCarty has been known for taking on the role of the Red Wings enforcer most of his career, a role in which he won the Stanley Cup four times in 1997, 1998, 2002, and 2008, the last of which after resurrecting his career in the Red Wings minor league system. Darrian spent much of his childhood in the small town of Leamington, Ontario, playing for the Southpoint Capitals (OMHA) minor teams.

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...or explain different things. I, myknowledge as the fan has grown not only in pro but college because it teachesme a different way to watch and then I take them to hockey games and watch theexcitement on his face where you know, gus hockey is the best game live, right?It's incredibly play the best play the best american, you need the TVs, thecommentators hockey when I teach you what to look for because you can see somuch more of a panoramic vision then you can just the standard vision, but Idon't I don't blame you, but you know what, let's get it straight. You got ahockey player's mentality though, you know what I mean? You're you're thattype of guys, you could have been a hockey player, so that's the mentality,but I will be with you is that we should get more together and on a moreserious note, it might help with everything that's going on in differentleagues that guys are on. So if if it starts where guys are talking then theyknow they're worth a little bit more in, you know, things that we hear indifferent leagues, like my lead right now with the Chicago stuff and, youknow, it's disappointing as an alumni player to be part of that. So, you know,and I think I get it, like I had a I had to go to our pr team to implementanything um like, hey, can you give me some tickets? I want to go meet theseguys. And so when I lived in ST louis, I got to meet uh we were a little moreconnected, so I got to meet all those guys in ST louis, Even the Cardinals,ST louis did a good job of letting everybody meet each other. And thegreat thing about hockey is you guys don't get upset when guys coming inyour locker room, like the NFL it's like a no, no, right, like nobody'scoming in here were security. And man, I used to go in there big walt wouldlet me come in and give me a robe and let me walk around. Oh yeah, that's bigwall. He's of ask you to chuck. He is a bastard. But that's the whole thing.There's this respect and we love it. I mean we were fortunate that we playedat the time when charlie came over from Chicago. So when we were in Chicago, wehave Michael Jordan coming into the locker room chopping it up with you andwhatever it was. You know, we'd be in L. A. And there's john cusack coming inand you know, different guys like that. It was always good. I was alwaysbuddies with a lot of the, you know, the rock stars. So you know, you havethe black label society or the system of down guys, you know, they're bighockey fans so in L. A. And stuff. So we enjoyed it and we love that becausewe're fans also. Yeah. You know that, but that's that's what I was sayingabout like hockey. Like if you had a buddy at the game whether he was justyour buddy from high school or it was, you know, a band that you know, orwhatever. You just tell security, they let him back after the game. They'regonna come see me. It's like okay, no big deal. I would do that. They'd belike, no, they gotta wait outside. Like then you'd have to, you know what Imean? It was just, I hated that part of it. Yeah. That's always, there's alwaysthe give and the take, right? We always say you got to embrace the suck. Yeah,you suck, right? Dude. Exactly. That's what life is. If you can embrace thesuck and then I also understand this too shall pass. Right? So growing upfor you in in british Columbia. Well actually I was born, I was born inBurnaby, but I grew up actually give or take 10 minutes for the border. I grewup 40 minutes from Joe Louis Arena on the Canadian side because really Ididn't know that. Like the way you move, I was like six months old. So my momgot remarried when I was five. My step dad craig McCarthy adopted me, took hisname and then Leamington is where I grew up. So that's tomato capital ofCanada point. Clearly, you know, when they play that don't stop believing.Born and raised in south Detroit while I was raised in south Detroit. That'swhat candidates. So you've been, uh, you've been around there forever.That's awesome. Like yeah, get lucky your manifest your reality and I don'tcare. I was always told why I wouldn't be able to do things that's amotivating factor to shove things and people behind and make them make themeat their words. So that's just my motivating factors. So I always wanted,I was always a red wings guys. And steve Eisman came in, I see in the chat,somebody had asked, that's a perfect segue, steve Iseman as uh, you know,the captain to this day, you know, the reason why the Red wings will get back,it's because of the culture and steve Eisman is at the helm, we call ithashtag wiser playing around here, you know, it's not when it's when, but he'sone of those guys gus that everything you hear about the man as a person, asa professional leads by example, you used to B E F Hutton commercial, whenEf Hutton talks people listen, well that was steven wright, but and here'sthe thing and you understand this, that's coming from me who everybody,especially in sports but is owned the...

Beyonce, somebody's beatz right in thedressing room. I'm his, I'm his took me three years to stop crying, sucking mythumb that he picked on because, because he cared about me througheverything I've been through, you know what, maybe not the forefront, butalways sort of, you know, it's one of those things, he's one of those guyslater on that has really molded because what he thinks of you matters right,his respect. So I couldn't be happier than that, but I always wanted to berobbing the bob Probert's batman, right? And I, and so to be able to play on theteam to win the cup to score the goal that brought the cup back. I mean,you're looking at it, man. I mean it's if you manifest your own reality now, Iwouldn't have wrote it that way, but I'm not driving. This guy is driving.So you really understand that. Yeah, that's awesome. So you answeredArmando's question before you even could ask it. So that is awesome thatyou know, you hear so many things about how there's a leader in every lockerroom and everybody follows them and I feel like the teams that aren't good,they don't have that, right? They don't have, they don't have somebody tolisten to to respect. And and it sounds like steve Eisman was the guy thateverybody listened to, right? And there's tears, right? There's tears ofleadership in different ways, right? Where guys are gonna, But it's alsounderstanding where you fall. I think the greatest thing scotty bowman andit's the mentality that he's the greatest psychologist because thesefive moves ahead. But he realized when it was it was us against him, right? Healways made it like that. But there's tears that Stevie is the top, he's theking where you got the lidstrom's you got to share their hands and you gotthe, you know, the grind line in its own way leading, you know, put us outthere bad dogs here we go. And because here's the thing, it didn't matter howmany minutes you played what role it was, you looked around the room andwhether it was steve Iseman Nick lidstrom, Sergei Federal, Igor Larionovlooking at you, you felt appreciated because of what you brought to thetable. And that's why I got four rings on my finger is because of that loveand appreciation. But it's the locker room and and it's sort of is theretears in that? And I think that, you know, you're a guy to ask too infootball was wherever that guy that that and Mark messier is a greatexample right? Where he's that that top of the chain and that's why I look atit now because as the captain and steve Eisman went to general manager in Tampa,put that team together 12 cups. Now he's going to do it here Might be 2, 5,10 years, but it's gonna happen eventually. And it's because it startsat the top. Yeah. I feel like in football, every great team that I'veever played against or played on, it was always the locker room. There wereveterans in there that said no, this is how we do it. That's how we practice,right? But he'd also be the guy to go and have a drink with after and it wasjust a different way and the poor teams that I've been on, there was none ofthat because the coach didn't let it, the ownership didn't let it happen,there was, you know guys were always complaining and the poor things happenthat you don't want to happen because I feel like every great team starts inthat locker room when I would go and and watch these guys playing hockey.You know, they come in, they had, you guys have such a relationship That ifit's broken in any way you can see it out on the ice. Oh, absolutely. And youknow what, you're all different from different points, but from, you know,especially in our room, we were the United Nations, right? But it proves tome it doesn't matter because I've lived in and where I grew up in leaving 22,it's a melting pot. So, I mean it's all about right, when you get in thatlocker room and you have different personalities, you have different guys,like different things. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, areyou all working towards the same goal and you put that, your personal goalsaside for the team, right? Because that's why you're lifting that cupthere, right? That, you know, that's, that's 2000 and eight. So that was thelast time we grabbed it. Um, yeah, like the first time, that's that, uh, thatwas at the old Silverdome for the Rome show. So yeah, doing a lot of uh, yeah,but like that's right. Tell everybody what you do is not who you are, right.I'm, you know, I'm fortunate to win the cops. But I also have the cannabisfriend where I'm actually sitting in the uh, college, you enjoy a band playrockstar, do comedy wrestle, do all that stuff. Wait, wait, tell me aboutyour wrestling. Oh yeah. So I'm more...

...too, because I realized like, here'sthe whole thing right? With the CBD and with the cannabis brand and stuff likethis, I created the CBD Wrong, which is Darren mccarty dot com. I ship iteverywhere in the world. It's just, it's the hemp derivative. Um, but it'sgot vanilla, Madagascar, strongest in the world, Pachulia and lavender andwhy it works so well because your endocannabinoid system. But I figuredI'm such a wrestling fan and I always have been and it goes back to beingable to meet a lot of guys coming through joe louis arena, you know, I'ma stone called God, getting able to meet him in the rock and buddies withJericho and stuff. But its understanding and then I got during theCovid got into the death matches and watching these and then I get to knowthese guys and get to know some of the young guys in the michigan indie sceneand it's just their passion. I follow passion and I figured if these guys arepassionate, how can I help? Oh, I know, I'll put them back together whenthey're out of the rig so that they can heal the pain, They can, they can get agood night's sleep, they can do whatever they have an option of analternative and then they'll go back in the ring and do crazier stuff andentertain me more. Right? So so that's you know where it just creates thatoption for it. But I was lucky enough to be able to do like the uh the X. I.C. W. Here in michigan and and the R. P. W. And the I. C. W. The differentthings. But I've been able to, you know, do tag match here, do a special spothere. I got I call it stone cold instead of stone cold. Stone cold. AndI do the stoner instead of the stunner, which instead of kick and I had I punchyou and I do the head thing. But I've also put a guy through the door takinga light tube over the head. So it's all good. But it's not about the wrestlingor being anything like that, it's helping these guys so following peopleand uh giving people the option where they didn't know they had that. I thinkthey needed. Right. So when did you have, do you have any brothers andsisters? I have a half sister. You have a half sister. But what about goodbuddy. So like when I grew up, we grew up right by our track it at high schooland we used to go up to where they pull vault in that big pad and we were allthe wrestlers, like we would go and do suit flexes and body slams and you know,whatever you name it, we tried it absolutely same, same sort of way I did,you just say you just because my sister was seven years younger, I didn't breakmy parents bed pile driving her through one time. Of course I did, I used to doall the moves on her, that's why I never messed with her since I was 14because she fought back and hit me so hard below the waist that I nevermessed with her since we all have those sisters stories. But yeah, we do thatthe playground and you know, back in the day and then so my big pot for mybig is just now is because I realized that, you know, I fought for a living,I played a sport, you know, where you know, you were going at it all the time,if you were in a fight you were in a fight right now, I want to see if guysare beating the crap out of each other, I want to know that it's forentertainment and they're in on it together. Right storyline. So I have ahuge storyline guy and if it makes sense, I don't have to like it, butit's gotta make sense. So I mean you were part of a big storyline, in, inDetroit, right, they call, what do they call it the fight night at the joetalked about that whole touch. Yeah, that was that was incredible. I watchedsomething on Youtube about everything that went on. I was like, and youwaited for the right time. Well, it was, you know, the whole preface is becauseit goes to the bigger story at the moment, right? Because, you know, sinceI've been there in 93 came, we won the President's Trophy, lost the firstround, went to the finals, lost seven league record, 62 wins, lost toColorado. And then the sixth game, my sentiment and best friend got hit frombehind. And this is what I tell everybody in life and in sports, badthing happened, but you can't lose respect for a fellow human being andthe fact that closet you didn't apologize right, and said that youwouldn't have heard of chris draper's name and he just got paid and stufflike that. Man that happened in May, I had no time to think about it. Claudedidn't play play in colorado didn't get the opportunity. By the time the game,March 26 came around, we hadn't beaten them three times during the season. Soat the end of the end of the day, yeah, rivalries in any sport, whether it'syour high schools growing up or whatever, but the only way out isthrough sometimes. So we had to win the game and at the same time. So I had toa lot of things to happen in the game to play out the way it did. And I meanI tell this every time I do my column show and I asked people, I go, is itlike, do you not get it? Is it not, is...

...it not me? Because anybody who hadwrote written scripture, if I could have wrote the script, I couldn't havewrote it that good, that's why the big fellow wrote it, I just happened to bethe star. So maybe I'm a little biased. But if you look at how it started, howdoes it start? The elder statesman, the pacifist, the professor, Igor,Larrionda, right with the story career, all the stuff in through that army, all5 £640 of them. Sometimes this is a great testament to what needs to happenin life is where the older people don't need to make a big splash, they justneed to tip the scales a little. And when I looked over and he and Igor wasthe pacifist. Second biggest one next to Gandhi is that I could find whenhe's punching a guy, I knew that was go time. I knew the view was on the ice.Adam Foote new abuse on the ice, he grabbed me, he's really strong. Shaniknew I wanted to get out, he broke me loose and I popped out and this iswhere I tell everybody the different sweet a sucker punch, which is frombehind in 99 69 at the time. Don't do it the other 690.4. They deserved it,but a cold cock and not just a cold cocked but the Kolkata because when youlook a guy in the eyes and you pull it back, right? And every man, woman andchild in Wind wheel nation in any universe and galaxy pulled. That was inthat punch because I hit him so hard on the button clothing. You even said hedidn't turtle the hardest he's ever been hit. He was knocked out and I waslike, thank God I can't hit you any harder. Right? So then again and againand I smashed his face and goalies are fighting ship of this. But the bottomline is we're down 53 and the third. So the revenge is great. All this. But itwouldn't have had the caveat if we didn't tie it up. And then I got fourminutes for roughing at 10 10 minute misconduct for that incident. Whichwhich by the way, fast forward Brendan Shanahan told me I would have been aminimum 10 game suspension back in 2013 when he was doing the disciplinary. Sothe fact we tied it up, I stayed in the game and I scored the overtime winner.So I not only slayed the dragon. I got the girl and it was at that moment,that moment when I scored in wing wheeled nation everywhere. It was aproverbial, it's gonna be all right. I don't know what it means, but it'sgonna be all right. The only other time that's happened gus was two years agowhen steve Eisen was introduced as the president general manager Detroit redwings. I was at the press conference. I had the same feeling I did after Iscored that goal. It's gonna be all right. I don't know what it means, butit's gonna be all right. But I know what it means. It's just one it's justI don't know what Yeah, that that's amazing story because you know, and youtalk about your team, you're sticking up for your team because you're alltrying to do the right thing, but you're trying to figure out like at anytime you can drop the gloves and go get this guy, but it has to be the righttime. I feel like, right, well, just like you're losing. Yeah, well, yeah,right. Exactly. We were behind the whole game, but it's uh now you youhave been known as a fighter. So like how does that happen where you justcome out in the ice and you drop the gloves. I always wondered that part,like, like, well, there's different reasons for a fight, right? That'swhere they're taking the enforcer out of the game. It's more or less the oldsaying is that the anticipation of death is worse than death itself. Sowhen I got and you mentioned ST louis oh that was always nice to see Tonytwist and kelly chasing on the end of the batch and Barret Jackman and justguys ready to just, you know, rip your face off, you know like stuff like this,that I am a read low, you know, and stuff like that can't Jansen's guysthat just you know, so there's a deterrent to do something stupidbecause because you know, there's consequence right now, there's theconsequence now is your paycheck and your wife yelling at you because youget suspended or something like that, but you don't fear for your life. Sothe fact that there's still, you know, there was still some of that left now,it's a fine line, so you got to find you know guys that stick up for now,Yeah, Tony Amando, Armando, sorry, you're right, Tony twist and Joeykosher with those guys that you know, you like to fight guys that wouldn'tkill you, those guys can put their fist through your face and break your skull,that's no bueno and I don't know how you guys do it on skates either, it'spretty amazing, I guess you learned that skill from the time of your youngman, I can't escape but my balance steve eyes when you said I'm aballerina when it comes to now it's fighting, but to the point, you askedabout different reasons to fight, well it could be because somebody's taking,took advantage of your players to, you're going to stick up for them.Could be that it's that time in the game or the momentum right where youwant it, if, if you just scored a goal and you don't want nothing and I wantto shift the momentum to go out and challenge your tough guy. You know, alot of other things back in the day was...

...just, that's the only time they got onthe ice and they had to get on the scoresheet right? Keep your job. A lotof times guys come out, you're down 61 and it's a guy you respect. And he goes,hey bro, give me a fight and try to stay in the lineup, you respect them,You fight him and he says thank you. And then he then he owes you there's a,there's a code, right? And then you break the code. Then stuff like that.Then the big guy takes care of you because you had it coming fromeverybody. Like one of the famous referees said, everybody hated that guy.Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. Um you know, but it seems like that's whatyou were talking about when you who's the Detroit line that you do your showwith and you go to the game. Yeah. So like when we go and sit with you at ahockey game, we would never understand that. We just kind of see what's goingon a hockey game. Plus like people to understand what goes on the sidelinesand football and and the different codes that we have that you can andcan't do um and everything changes and they've tried to take uh make the ruleshappen so that the game is kosher instead of letting the guys handle it.And hockey was always seen that way. Like the guys would handle thesituations where in football now it's all the rules instead of the guys, ifyou know a lot of the times, that's the whole thing. And you know what's reallycool is that I watched hockey, I guess I've advanced it's my football acumenof understanding um formations or as much as you film, right? Because when Iexplain to joint watch, he's gonna go from there right down in that end onthis power play, he's gonna come up here and he's gonna gain speed, he'sgonna come back and get the puck. He's like, how do you know that? Well, it'sa breakout, right? Because they want to get him to his speed and explain that.And so now he picks up really quick, right? It's almost like I told him toplay formation and it's like, oh, they're in uh they're in too deepsafety here. I'm like, yeah, you're right, You know, what are they tryingto do, who they trying to get the puck to and you can see the play happenedand it's a lot easier where it is live, right? That's why hockey's best game inlife and it's a lot easier when joy goes through the tape slows it downlike you guys are watching film sessions so I can understand, oh, sowhen that tight end moves to the other side, you know, it's uh it's more timesthan not, it's gonna run this way and it's kind of this guy's gonna pull. Soit's it's sort of seeing it as either the offense or the defense in the gameseason as a player's perspective. So I think there's a lot of things that Ididn't really realize that you can learn watching both, both sports and hey, how come up with Gus listenersmanscaped. Well, they sent me, uh they hooked me up with a bunch of tools andformulations for their package three point oh Kit. So, you know, I want toshow you guys what's in the perfect package, right? We all think we've gota perfect package, but they sent me the perfect package, three point oh kid, Iwant to show you what they sent me. So it was crazy. It came in this great box.Uh you know it and you can see what it says, they will thank you because theysent us this awesome trimmer. They sent us uh, you know, stuff that makes yousmell better. And then uh, you know, they sent me this great, uh, someboxers here, what you get right, protect them and then uh, you know,they sent me this cool sack, I guess you want to call it to store all yourstuff in. So, uh, it's been great. Man scape sent me a bunch of products. Um,you know, and you know, you can see it all on here. Uh, you know, you can goto Manscaped dot com and put in the code. Uh, Gus Frerotte, that's G U S FR E R O T T E. Get 20% off and free shipping when you use that code. Butyou can get a kit, you can get individual items like, uh, this waycool rumor that has a little led light, um, ceramic. These things come apart,they're waterproof, You can do a lot with them. So, you know, Manscaped isgreat. You know, it's funny, I remember when I was playing with the Denverbroncos and I'm not going to mention any names, but there was a gentlemanwho was playing on our team and you know, if you ever hears the story,he'll know exactly what I'm talking about. But he brought his own clippersin one time and he used to trim his beard up his goatee and everything andhe had him there for about two or three weeks and he goes in around the corner,he walks in and there's a person,...

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...so I wanna know eight, lost nine andretired and it was young in his career and you know, he might have beensurprised me a little complaint whatever but what a representative forthe sport. So proud of the man the guy he is but he's the ultimate pro hewould, I would put him in steve Eisman category. The other guy put in thatcategory two is a jerome again, one that I played with a couple of Calgaryso that's pretty cool. Yeah that is really cool, you know, and uh did youplay on the Canadian team when you, I know that the meat potatoes guys theythey stay at home, we got we got we got to protect the women bro. Yeah, you'reprotecting the herd right? So you know it oh that's that's great. That's great.Um So when you now you go through your career, you play when you were playing,were you thinking of okay when I get done I'm gonna I want to do this or I'mgoing to do this but or were you just like okay I'm gonna play hockey, that'sall I'm going to think about because that's how I wasn't football, right? Ididn't think about what I was gonna do after I was just family and football.It's all I had. Yeah I was in a bad, I was in a bad shape mentally and um witheverything in my life and you know really between 2009 when I retired 2015,which is on here, which is my sobriety date. Um I was just living a lot. I wasliving leaving las Vegas but not trying to kill myself but I got the point thatI was that close. So that's why the love of, that's why cannabis saved mylife and the love of the caregiver program in the state. And that's youknow why it's uh I knew then exactly because I I remember so my detox wasdone in my garage between 10 and 15 g of RSO which is the plant and itspurest medical formats what actually helps helps cure cancer uh differentthings. Um So my wife's a nurse and after 7.5 days of this. I finally sortof came through from either, you know, purging or or you know, doing both ends,everything come out that I was on my knees that I was in tears and I was sograteful because I didn't have the physical addiction of alcohol. But thenI got mad and then then it was, what am I going to do? And so coming up on sixyears later as I was sitting in the pecan offices with the Dare McCarthybrand that it just keeps growing and you know, the education and stuff likethat. Um because I know that I'm not alone. So it took me a while. I alwaysknew that I loved all different things and I'm the type of person that I'mjust trying to leave my whale by example. And it's, I know a lot of uhyou know focus on a lot of my, my brethren, a lot of former tough guysand stuff, but it's about everybody and just knowing you have the opportunityto have a big, I have a couple say, it's just ones get educated, getmedicated and number two, it's not the one, it's the who, so I don't care whatwe're talking about. I invest in people and you know what, I'm prime examplethat I tell everybody you're not alone and no matter what, no matter what,just get your butt back up, you can stay down for a minute, you stay down,but you gotta get back up because you know, I was there, I was there where itwas either had to make a decision, either liver died. Yeah, no, well I'mgonna live and I'm doing what I need to do and what I want to do. Well I feellike like what happened to you and how you came out of it and thankful for,but we all, when we transition out of that sport that we go to those guys, wehave every day, the training staff, the locker room, you know, even if we didhave mental issues or addictions like you had, we kind of went in there andfelt we had something right, we had somebody to lean on and then all of asudden that's gone and if you didn't have a family, I know a lot of guysthat it was tough for, it's a struggle and I'm thankful that you got, youfound your, you know, I guess the theme that was going to help you transitionbecause after you found that you seem like you've got a great entrepreneurialspirit because you do so much. Yeah, no and here the big thing is what itrealized in my right hand, nick antonucci, so I have dried thyme withDarren Mccarty right, which is sort of have a lot of things, but whatever itis, but nick who's been a buddy of mine, but he is, we have also operationValhalla because he's an army vet and we realized about five years ago whenwe when we were hanging out and we started the grind tied with DarrenMccarty and stuff like this. Um the synergies between the military andathletes and it's the mil spec or the...

...routine, right? So one of our missionshere is make it just like I do with the michigan warriors hockey program is isdo a lot of things with them, but a lot of things with the veterans in thisarea and and just because that's exactly you you don't have thatmilitary spec or how things are done not only in business but in your life.Right? So, so I mean it's pretty much I think society realizes more so likecommon sense, right? And it's about the option and I know that you know what,there's people out there dealing with different things and then when you gettogether, you know, you're not alone, right? And I think that's the biggestthing. So the greatest gift that God ever gave me is when it's not about me,right? So he gave me his brand and all that stuff because it's about everybodyelse. It ain't about it ain't about me, right? I've gone through that where Ifed into the hype and You know, I tell everybody I knew who I was a hockeyplayer, Darren McCarty since I was six years old. I didn't know who the manwas was 46. That's that's that's honest truth. Well, I mean it is, it is toughbecause I played Total how many years you played, but I played 25 years total.Yeah. And that's what I knew. That's all I knew. And even to this point I'mstill getting coached by people on different things like business speaking.You know, I'm trying to figure out what the hell is going on. And you seem toalso do that because you had a band, you've written a book, you you know,you got your Darren Mccarty cannabis line, right? And you're you're doingall these things and people don't realize that that were so like eachother like the military, I've interviewed so many military guys andwe have the same discussions, We just want different things, right? That'swhere I was always told if you wanted my, my old man, God rest his soul. Umyou always said if you don't like to do something about their smartass and Ialways take them. Didn't I Like because I'm a man, I know that you can manifestyour reality. I did, right? So I keep continue to do it to do and it's allabout who you surround yourself with. I can speak on that because when I lookat when I was at the worst or doing things that I shouldn't be doing ordoing things that didn't benefit me to the person I am now that personsurrounded himself with people similar to them that were selfish and and aboutthe hype now, it's not that right? And and and that's it because guys, here'sthe thing I Gerry, McCarthy do not care what you do, but if I'm not doing it,you best be doing that way away because it's not about me, right? I'm not hereto argue you. I'm here to either fight or answer your question because it'sabout the person that is where I was 11, 11, 11, 12, 2015. That has just got thecourage to come out. Well, if you're coming out and I'm your who, you'refollowing me, no matter what, then I will protect you because everybody'sseen the way that I protected the red wing and it's embedded in my heart. ButI've taken the plan to put it on my chest and I will die for that thingbecause of the truth and the options for everybody, because it saved my life.Well, who introduced you to it? Like who said, Hey Darren, You gotta trythis. So I knew something Ricky Williams and and knowing Ricky Williams,a football player because I know I played with Ricky, I know him well, solove his story, right. Love his story, would do athletes for care together andstuff. But the fact that he because of the ulcers that he got um from at texasfrom all the pills that day. He didn't get to smoke because I grew up the samething, you're an athlete or a jock? But I got injured. First of my three sport,her knee injury. Um and I hated the pills and constipated, couldn't sleep,baby eroded that. Finally my body just said, man, here, you gotta smoke thisbro. And I was like, I was and I couldn't sleep and I'm gonna song backto so I was trying not to drink at the time. So handed me this in the minute Ihit, I was like, whoa, something's wrong, this is to write. So I alwayshad that dichotomy in my head that there was something, but I wasn'tcommitted down to it. But now with the education about the endocannabinoidsystem of what everybody has it, why it makes sense. I mean, and and God blessrisky because he knew that it was a bigger thing than life to step away andthen come back and do it his own way. After alert, he needed to know the why.And sometimes that takes more bravery when you understand the situation tostep away from it, because it's about looking in the mirror. That's what itcame down to look at. Don't live the...

...person in the mirror if you want to bebetter. You know, just be honest. You said you sell it all over the world,right? Your brand. Yeah. Yeah, because the CBD is governed by the FDA. So, CBDships all over the world off the Darren Mccarty dot com website? Yeah, that isawesome. And so what do you feel like? Do you feel like cannabis should belegalized throughout the U. S. See here's the thing as once that thepharmaceuticals and the money people figure it out. And the greatest thingfor the cannabis industry is the fact that that um did you know that helpcure Chernobyl right? They plan to happen the ground and it took all theradioactive stuff out. So this plant right? It also can replace the plasticindustry which Isaiah thomas for a basketball guy is involved with worldwhich is the largest town. I believe that the education and I believe thatthat yeah in a in a certain way in a perfect world right? But it's nevergonna be perfect. So you have to know what you're getting from. But I thinkeverybody should have access to this medication if they if they so desired.That's that's what that's what I believe and more so medically but alsorecreate recreationally. Now. I came in from the medical right? So but we allneed it because here's the whole thing. It's like I tell everybody I'm never hiI'm always fully medicated right? And there's a different way to know whatyou have but it's all about you learning your system the easiest way toexplain it as we all understand DNA. Right? D. N. A. We all know that it'sall different because you know they put people away from years ago and stuff,we watched enough crime shows were endocannabinoid system that every humanbeing, in fact everything with the spine in it in this world has anendocannabinoid system that this plant feeds, right? But your responsibilitywhat you feed Your system and ours are all different. I'm alcoholic insomniac.You know, if you look my my running about 7030 on the Indica side, which isthe more bring you down side. I'm naturally wound up a little bit more.It's all education and the CBD for the like right now the weather's changedhere in michigan with my arthritis acts up and I rubbed out, you know, on myskin, the CBN which is the sleep set it up to allow for a for sleep, it's justall education and it's all about it's all about understanding and you knowwhen you understand that the THC isn't the devil, it's the doorman. What doyou mean by that? The easiest way to explain it is we went to a club gus inDetroit, we walk up to the front, they see it's you and I were on the list bamwe got THC on our side. But if we don't where we have just the hamp well we'rein another city that they don't know us while we're waiting in line. We maywait in line 20 minutes, it just takes a little longer to react. So whenpeople get and that's why government, everybody who makes the rules becausewhen you follow it always ends up at the dollar. So they had to make THC thedevil instead of the doorman to allow everybody out. He keeps the peace andallows it allows it to go. But it's all in your education and that's why Iencourage, hey, keep asking, what do you mean by that? What do you mean bythat? That's what I keep doing. And I just find the answers from people a lotsmarter than me. That's been a lot more time around the place. So if our fansgo to Darren Mccarty dot com, what will they find out? You have the educationon there? Do they have you have the product on dot com Also you'll bedirected to pin conta dot com. Where if you go to the CBD, it'll, it'll tellyou all about all the different products. Um, if you're in michigan,I'm in 173 of the 217 medical recreational dispensaries, you know,it's all about the conversation. My twitter, you know, I'm on all the bluecheck marks and stuff, but I tell everybody Darren Mccarty number four ontwitter, I brought that thing, the rest of them. I don't run, right? But thatone I run because that's where I do most of my rest of talk interact andstuff like that. And I love that platform that I'm able to go. So I'malways free throw me a DM asked me a question. Yeah, again, that's whereit's important because here's the thing that Darren Mccarty brand, DarrenMccarty competes with himself right to what I need out there. The bottom line,it is, here it is, here's the win win. And you always know people say D Mac,what's the payoff? I know there's always a payoff for you. Here's mypayoff, right? I know as an addict and an alcoholic right, that if I createthe stuff that works for me and I have...

...it all around this state, I have noexcuse. So when I'm leading the charge that I should ever be in a positionright to ever go back to the way that things used to be. So that's what it is.So I have no excuse to myself. It's accountability and I got to lead theway by being accountable to myself. Right? So, um, so you're accountable,but when you wrote your book, yeah, you were back then. Yeah, I wrote that bookin 2012, 13, right? So I drink until 11, 11, 2015. And I even wrote a, um, Idon't know what they call it, but like their soft tops, the hard copy came out,my last fight, you started a hockey rockstar. The soft copy came out whereI, and it was in, that was in the summer of 14 or 15 when I wrote, I wasstill drinking because I sat in the back of the book that I you know, tryto keep it to minimalize or control and stuff like this, Wow, that's why, youknow, I start doing the podcast and do all the other stuff is because it takestoo long to write a book cast. Yeah, definitely write a different book todaythan back then. Absolutely do that. It is so much where I read and and andlike, I'll segue in the band because one of the greatest things that theband helped me with early that I didn't know was like, I like, write, I writethe songs, right? So I write the music and it's all journaling and it's allthat I learned in rehab and stuff. And and so, but when we rode out of ourheads in 2004, I was in such an angry place, but now I can hear music and Idedicate, you know, my song be me uh to all the people when I go and do mycomedy shows, because it's bottom line is uh thank you for letting me be me.You know, loving me and enough and it's it's okay, You are good enough, Youknow what I'm saying? Yeah, I want to be with two. No apologies withoutcompromising my life. Well, everybody has issues, right, everybody hasproblems when you leave your sport that you love, you were four time Stanleycup champion. Then all of a sudden you're like, I get it. Like who am I?Like? You have to reinvent yourself. And even you were an addict and you didthat. Like you said, okay, this wasn't somehow you got to this point, you said,this isn't who I am. It was you were able to make that everybody in the,like I wrote in the book, it was you can't do it for anybody else. That wasthe case. I would have done it for one of my kids right back in the day, right?But you what you need is the love of somebody, which to me it's my wife,Sheryl the love of a person to believe that you deserve to love yourself. Sountil I can't love it, it's got to go into out and And that was that was themoment where there was one person that on this earth to this day that I've hadmy back since I met her in 2010 and that's what that's her. But it was andand we have a saying because I'm not the best husband. I mean I'm whatever,like, like I do my best, but when we talk, it's like, are you talking to youas your husband as your husband or your best friend and when she says my bestfriend, I don't care, I have to stop drop listen and roll because at the endof the day, this is At the end, all be all to believing in me. Yeah, don'tforget that loyalty is a huge thing and that's what it is. So you have to do itfor yourself. But I needed that inspiration, you know, that somebody uhwell, you found your person, I deserve to love myself. Yeah, you found yourperson, I found my person 26 years ago. We've been married 26 years and and uhyou know, we do this all together and her support has been amazing for me,because that support isn't gonna there's nobody else out there gonnagonna shoot to you straight like they will write because their attention, Imean, here's the thing when you understand that they have your bestinterests at heart, it's for the bigger picture of the family or or the unit orthe team, right? Because we were team guys, guess we buy, we need a teamaround us or whatever else just to believe to believe in or whatever. Imean, that's that's what it is. So it's not what it's who and go out and findyour who's right, if you don't have it. Right. Exactly. So where did you getyour comedic inspiration from? Right, who's the comedian that you said, Oh, Ilove this guy, you can listen to them all the time. I have several, but foryou, you actually do stand up. So where does that inspiration? Yeah, well Itell everybody I'm an entertainer, right? I have a band, I have, you know,I do, but that's I called the D max show, you know, like to tell storiesand and different things like that. I'm a huge bill berg. I you know, you knowum you know, I love the chappelle's, I love this story, you know the story, Ilove I love comics, fashion teamster...

...that I love the female comics, ELISA uhslashing your she's smoking hot and foul mouth. That's cool combination.But I like ones that keep the story, you know, Deon cole different things.There's so many, I like I live, you know, and next time I listened to a lotof the comedy specials and stuff on there. But uh my more like I don'tconsider my comedy even though I do tell tell some some jokes, I tell morelike the stories that you know that we can, I like to everybody to understandthat I know where I was, where were you and there's sort of this connection.It's sort of a loaded, you have a loaded audience and stuff. I bring Ibring some of the funniest comics. Like I said, I'm all about showcasing thetalent, you know, so I called their slapstick comedy. Comedy Two representsthe MAC show because here's your comic. So there's a comedy and there's mebecause I'm gonna put on a show. So I was I was always the uh either thebrunt of the joke or I had to have a lot of thick skin. So you just learned?You learned. Yeah. Is the greatest job artists of all time. So you get cut bythat samurai start one too many times just now. I tell them I have onefeeling my wife owns it. Yeah. So you have the same birthday as my son april1st. And we've always, I yeah, so Terry asked if what's the best prank you'veever pulled on anyone and you know, april fool's babies usually usually getthem on him. But you can also do it on other people. Were you the prankster inthe locker room? My grandfather would get us all the time. The best when hegot us. We're like six or seven was there's a cow in the yard or whatever.Like he was just like stupid. But the way he sold it, he, my grandfather wasa prankster. Um, but here's the thing, what you're, you say your son's april1st. Yes. My youngest game Gabe so Gabe let let him know this being the Arieshis power colors red. But he's the most powerful air he's being on on the first.So he's going to be a leader, you know, and it's one of its probably signs ofthat to a little bit hard headed. But he's got to have those, we have those,but a good sense of lord headed, but a good sense of humor. So my dear. Butthat's what I remember the most and um, everybody's always wait. You know whatI always used to get me is I always got print, they drapes drapes was the kingof birthday cakes. So we always get birthday cake or I get uh and theyalways get me in different ways on my birthday, right in the dressing room,on the ice. That got me one time, real good, got the ice cream cake. One timeI was you know the dress from birthdays go, oh yeah, birthdays and dress. Imean when when they're in the locker room, I mean that's our family, right,we're gonna pick on everyone. I always picked on everyone because I felt likeif I could make you laugh, if we could all laugh together even though it was,I always would never do to somebody who got angry at it, but somebody who couldhandle it and we would laugh and it really locker room would get a laugh.But when I would hang out some of the hockey guys and they're so funny, yourlocker rooms are so different from any other ones I've ever been in, in myfavorite that I used to hang out with Billy Garen Billy Garrett, Billy G.Billy G uh That's a church. He's a trouper bro. America never got to find out. What washe like on the ice? Oh, he's talker Like see because it's like the commonsense, so you'd have uh you can have that, you know, the game's going good,it's sort of like, you know, whole home, but then, you know, it heat up orwhatever, something would go on and get I stick, you know, shut up your wine oryou know whatever like, you know, it would be like that's going to be like99.9% of the time, you could stand there and have a fistfight withsomebody and at the end of the game, whoever didn't come out on the rightside would would get caught in the beers all night and you talk about itbecause most of us have fought junior and and it it means to an end, so onlythe clawed mutant thing was personal and sometimes it's personal. But evennow once it's done, it's done. We like to get things out of the way. Yeah,yeah, so Armando man Armando has been on top of it. He said what's thefunniest thing an opposing player or rival ever said to you on the ice thatyou didn't get mad, you just laughed. That's right. Well you always have tohave a comeback, right? So, you know, the old classic is uh your has beenYeah, well, but if you have the number was you know, or or but the best is youknow, guys will chirp you about your...

...minutes or stand on the bench and thenI just have to lean down and polish my rings off, you know what I'm sayinglike you can't get, you know, because when you're younger the chirp and endedup in fighting right? There wasn't you weren't mouthing off the funniest thatI was OK, so sean Avery right, played with us in uh traded from us, he wantto come with us and go to that, he got traded to L. A. And Sean Avery's andmouthpiece played in new york and whatever always about them. Well, weplayed in L. A. After he got traded and before the game, he was in the back ofthe training room with Shani and Stevie me and drapes just talking well thegame goes on right and I always sat next to the other team's best, right?Because that's where all the action was and you know, you sort of could keepthings calm down. Like the conversations with somebody wouldn'thave, you know, be happy, but she never goes off the ice and he starts shippingchannel as it comes up and Shani stops and he's like, Shannon, you suck andyou know, like you got nothing and and that's not that's not Shannon takes ittakes it said a couple of personal things to him that were offside andthen Shani looks at him and he said shot shot, were you just not in ourdressing room telling us how much you hated your teammates and your coach andand Shani went in about what? And he said didn't you say your coach bob onthis guy bother the shut the f up. I was, here's what you need to go back.There was one of those things Gus and you understand because we all theseguys right, It's usually she has the wide receiver, the quarterbacks guysthat aren't in the pits doing it all the time. But there john, john, john,john john and then somebody checks her butt and their team knows that this isa map for. He probably said that, right? That's why I was like this. So the restof the game, I don't even know if Sean got to play. But yeah, that's a greatcomeback because you're getting him not saying stuff to him, but just like histeammates were listening and then all of a sudden it's like, oh shit, yeah,yeah. Remand o if you want to claim a spot, come on, I'll give you a picturewith Darren. It's a cool thing we have on this platform there and people cantake a selfie with you, Yeah, they can claim a spot, turn the camera onArmando is at work so you can't do it. But it's really cool. Um, if you everwant to do this there and I know like you're an entrepreneur guy, look atthis, you can take a selfie, you just hit it, it comes up and we're taking aselfie together brother. Like it's so cool, but hey man, I appreciate youjoining me today. I know the last time we had a little issue, but, but I just want to thank you man,you're an incredible guy. You're doing a lot of good things. You turn a lot ofpeople's health around. You're doing what you can for everyone and you know,it seems like you're such a giver now, which is amazing. And so tell us, tellall of our fans and everyone out there how they can find you all the thingsyou're part of because you know, it might take us an hour to get througheverything. All right, Darren Mccarty dot com. I go there every morning tosee what I'm going to be doing that day. So you should to get everything outwhat we're going. Is that where Nick puts it off? What's that? Is that whereNick puts it all right on Darren Mccarty said, what's it all? It's notdoing his job if that. So there's that, there's the official Dare McCarthy onfacebook, real Deer McCarthy on instagram, Dear McCarthy for which Ipersonally am on twitter. I know, I gotta talk to, I don't know, but youcan catch me daily or go on youtube, check all the different things. I do aweekly tucking around segment. I did a most cider or young rookie that justone for the Red Wings have just won Rookie of the month and Lucas Raymondor young Star, you can check out woodward sports that were too big. Theenergy. I'm on their 11-1 uh Daily, have a friday night WJr 7 60 A. M. Uh78 o'clock show with my buddy, Sean Bell legion. Where I get to talk abouteverything. That's a great thing. It's uh I grew up just so you know, W J. Allright, that's the most Republican station and everything else. And I'vebeen doing it for almost two years now, where they Darren mccarty enforcersshowing get to talk about everything. They allowed me to talk about cannabisand everything that's going on. It's a great way to connect another audience.You go in studio for that, are you doing from? What do I do? And then itdepends because they're redoing the studio, but I also have it through acomputer set up thing. Yeah. So people could go there mccarty, they could findyour book, they could find your line of everything is on their way. I I was onthere and I couldn't. Where do I go to...

...find? And your album? Is it on there?All of the No, I do not believe that Spotify, The Spotify. No, it's on umyou're gonna have to come out. I know that big boogie. Who's my merch guy?Big book. He's got some Cds, but I don't know the band's been on hiatus,but you're the band's coming back out. We were planning on coming out and thenCovid hit. So I tell everybody what, I'm the youngest guy in the band. Yougotta make sure the boys are healthy. So uh and and obviously on your productright now getting healthy. That's it, that's all it is. That's you know likeI said, don't tell me what, tell me who and um Canada dot com, that's uh that'sthe enterprise. There's actually a great, if you're interested in thefacility, go to Youtube, go to kanna cribs and they did a whole thing on ourfacility. Um They're out of California and their opening line, Opening linewith this isn't the best um facility in the state. Maybe even the country.That's what I'm talking about, I got the willy Wonka of weed and cannabisand education and everything fully integrated. I got a great team, Iencourage people um you know, bill drunk, you're basically a grower and ashower so which is great. Strong baby. There you go. Alright buddy. Hey,thanks Darren man. It was awesome getting to know you, I appreciate youfor joining us on huddle up with Gus and thank you so much and good luckwith everything you're doing and I can't wait to hear you in concert. Yeah,you bet. And then I will be when I get right, like I said when I get the busthick break with the studios on the bus, which will be coming in the new Year,it's in the works. Um or when I get the right time with Darren Mccarty up, I'dlove to have you on as Augusta. I love that. I love that. I'll make it thetrip to Detroit. Say oh my old friends and we'll do right here you go, we'llhit some of those hot because you know, I know you're missing some food downhere. There's a lot of places down the guys get to the D yeah, a lot of goodeats. A lot of good eats. I love I love it. Uh About two weeks ago we have one, wehave a place called the Latins here, which I love. Okay. Yeah, they havegood sh warmer here but I'm also not opposed to a nice steak out of Detroit.They have good ones are a lot of good options. Yeah. Hey, hey Darren, thankyou so much for drinking, man. Take care and I'll talk to you soon. Yeah.Hey everyone, Thanks for joining us. Another episode of head off with. Justwant to thank my uh my team out there terry. Thank you. I want to thank allof our friends and sponsors, 16 31 digital news super dot events andsounder FM. We'll see you next week when we'll let you know who our nextguest is but I think we're gonna have andre risen coming up pretty soon. Wegot a lot of people going to enjoin us and you know, just keep coming back,check out the new platform on super and let's make it bigger and bettertogether. All right, everyone to have a great weekend. We'll talk to you nextshow. Don't forget to go to huddle up with Gus dot com. Subscribe and likeour show and you can listen to our podcast on Sounder FM or wherever youlisten to your favorite podcast, take care and we'll talk to you soon. And that's a wrap sportsman. Thanks forjoining in the fun at the 16 31 digital studios for another actually, Huddle Upwith Gus featuring 15 year NFL quarterback. Gus parent huddle Up withGus is proudly produced by 16 31 digital media and is available on applemusic.

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