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Daina Falk

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Founder and face of The Hungry Fan, Daina Falk joins the Huddle. Daina is the daughter of famous sports agent, David Falk, but she has carved her own path in the sports world. In 2016 she published her book, "The Hungry Fan's Game Day Cookbook: 165 Recipes for Eating, Drinking & Watching Sports". Listen to her episode for a special discount code only for fans of Huddle Up with Gus! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

...tailgating season is here and there's noone better than our guests today and making the Game Day gathering as exciting asthe game itself. Her Dad is a legend in the business of Sports.She is quickly becoming a legend in the kitchen of sports. Please welcome intothe Huddle Dana Falk. The Huddle today is Dana Fall. She's going tohave some amazing stories from her childhood and really we're going to find out abouther love of sports. But she is coming from the hungry fan and youand I are always hungry and we love tailgating and I think she's going togive some really good inspiration on what we should do for Game Day. We'removing right into football seasons. A great time be perfect. So today DanaFolk joins us, the hungry fan. Thank you for coming on and beingin the huddle with guss and Dave. Oh It's my pleasure. Thanks forhaving me, guys. So how we always start is we really want toknow how sports shaped your life. We know your father is a very famousagent. You know, every show and thing that we've researched, a lotof people want to ask about him. Well, this shows about you.We want understand about how sports Shaked your life and all those moments that youhad growing up that really got you to where you are today. So whatwas that spark that really gave you that love of sport? Well, Iappreciate your I appreciate you at hey, how you're coming about this or you'reintro into this. It really wouldn't be fair to actually talk about my loveof sports and out talking about my dad as much as I'm like, yes, you know, I've done stuff on my own. The whole reason Igot here is because of the opportunities that I had to go to events whenI was a little kid with my dad. I have a little sister. She'sfive and a half years younger than I am. We have no brothers. I'm the oldest and I'm sort of like daddy's little girl and in someways, even though maybe this sounds weird, like the sun he never had becauseI was really into sports. My sister used to fall asleep at basketballgames and we would sit next to this heckler and she would sleep through that. So, like it's sort of just goes to show you that wasn't somuch for a thing. It was mine and the whole. Like reason thatI launched hungry fan to begin with is because I did fall in love withthis fan experience when going to games and events with my dad as a kidand just seeing the excitement and zeal in the passion that sports fans have onGame Day. That's really what excites me. So did you which sports would youplay when you're younger? Um, well, I started with figure skating, actually because I thought I was going to be Christi AMAGUCCI. Turns outnot so much. That's okay. I also watch it when it's on likea winter limp bigs. I got into soccer when I was a kid.A lot of little girls growing up in the DC area play soccer. SoI played soccer, which was good because I wasn't very athletics, so theycould just sort of put me on defense and I was just like that gigantickid who you had to get through, who the wall. And and thenI got into tennis and I really really loved tennis. I ended up playingtennis off through high school and then I played it on the club team atDuke Wow. So you played multiple sports growing up and I think that allteaches us a lesson. You know is every one of our guests is attributedtwo days that sports is taught them something that they couldn't get anywhere else.And so when you were little, you know you had it. You gotknocked down, you got to get back up. What were some of thelessons that you learned as a child from sports? I might think sports actuallyboth are playing, I would say, especially with Team Sports, obviously teachesyou how to play well with others, which I think is particularly good,maybe if you're like an only child and you don't normally have to play wellwith others. But yeah, you I think you've learned the team dynamic prettyearly and certainly it in any capacity, whether you play tennis, which issort of like an individual sport, or you play soccer, basketball or Lacrosseor whatever. It is. The the value in having a strong coach whocan be somebody that you can respect and also somebody that like instills in youthe respect for authority. I think just in general, is a is agreat thing that you can get out of sports. was there a coach specificallythat really kind of touched you at early age, that really got Gabe inspiration? Um, I mean I really liked my soccer coaches when I was akid, but I was also like ten like five, six, seven,eight, nine and ten I didn't love my tennis go so much. Sotennis was sort of like it was actually interesting. The thing that I got, all I got out of tennis quite a bit, was the sort ofthe mine capacity of like mind over matter, and I wasn't very good at it. I really if I had wanted to be a better tennis player,I probably should have had like a sports psychologist, because I think that's reallylike that's a huge part of that game and probably other games to like golf, for I don't know, but being to do that, you know,from tennis, like you have to immediately...

...let the last play go right theyeah, we're whatever it's in the past, and how many people have such issueswith the man? I could have had that. I didn't have it, you know. But yeah, it's a game that the mental side ofit really has to be yeah, a lot of times when I would lose, it was because I beat myself right right. Yeah, that makes ithard. I can understand. Yeah, you don't have a team to relyon. It's just you out there. It's just you, it's just youand did you play doubles? I did. I played both doubles. Is Fine, it's slower. I liked playing like power tennis. I have astrong back, strong forehand. May Back is actually good now, unfortunately,wasn't better then, and I had a really good serve, so I wouldgenerally hang around the baseline and hit it pretty hard. Now, I'm dadwas probably on the road a lot when you're growing up. Yeah, we'reyour parents able to go to your games as much as they could. Yeah, they did. We have. There's like this story my dad loves totell of like the day that he actually got to coach my soccer team becausehe wanted to coach so bad and I just like you are not coming anywherenear my soccer team. But our two coaches were out, our backup coachwas out. I guess was like everyone was on vacation, and so thathe actually got to coach and he loves to tell the story basically like hecame up with this like elaborate defense, like zone defense sort of thing forsoccer that we were were like five years old, seven year old little girls, whatever it was. It's very elaborate, even, I think, for liketeenagers elaborate game plan and he like hoddle the SOP and like try toexplain to us what to do and we're to stand in like who to goafter and cut this girl off. None of that happened. And and apparently, like one of my little friends, Danielle, she was like, but, Mr Fault, we're all professional athletes, we're just kids. All those Dad'sdo that. My daughter and coach my daughter's basketball team one year andI'm trying to explain things to him and they weren't listening. I'm like,okay, everybody on the line and run. They're like hey, we're going torun today, and I'm like yeah, I couldn't even discipline them. Youknow, they're doing cartwheels and everything, and I'm like all right, we'rejust going to have fun, we're gonna yeah, yeah, we myparents would come, my mom would come, my little sister would come, mylittle sister would eat all of our oranges. You know, it justbut it was what it was. I just remember when I was coach.You have two daughters in high school now, but when they were younger, coachingthem, I'd always look over to the sidelines and I'd see the otherparents and maybe they weren't second guessing me, but I could tell they were alittle bit at least talking when some cells about my strategy. So Imet, you know, when Your Dad was implementing that defense. They probablywere talking among them cells coming. Yeah, they're probably like, let's watch thisbail. Yeah, like watch them more. There's a famous sports age. What's you know about coaching? Yeah, Oh, yeah, I got alot of is this guy? I got that all the time. It'scrazy. So when you were a little kid, we talked about you playingsports. What are some of your very vivid memories of when you would travelwith your dad, like some of your favorite places you used to go?I mean we went to a lot, a lot of games when I wasa kid. I remember when I was really young, like really really young, I was allowed to go into the like but tunnels area, you know, like outside the locker rooms, and even when I was really young andI don't remember being in the locker rooms, apparently I was in. I wasin there, and then I got to be at an age where that'sinappropriate, and so then I've heard of hang out outside. When I wasa little kid, we used to come up to New York a lot becauseI was a huge patch of doing fan and I still am and I'm friendswith his son and I loved coming up to New York. Was always reallyfun to get on the Amtrack with my dad and pop up here, andI just remember, like one of my more vivid memories as a kid waslike he would sort of find people well after I was too old to orlike I was getting to the point where letting me hang out in the tunnelsand the locker room really wasn't like the best, so he started putting mewith like players wives and like I just had babysitters anywhere I would go,and I remember one year I would sit with Rita Ewing and crystal Anthony,who was great at the Patrick Ewing sexwife and Great Anthony's ex wife, butthey were married at the time and I was sitting with them and these otherwomen who I didn't really know, but they had like the coolest nails andthey like really cool outfits and I thought they were really fun and I waslike sitting on their laps for like like the whole game. Turns out itwith salt and pepper, so was like okay, pretty good, pretty goodbabysitters, pretty good baby centers, but they're a lot of fun, unlessyou're a rising great yeah, that's another one. Yeah, we're not doingthat. No, but yeah, no, that's that's a great story. Georgetown, where you fan of Patrick when...

...he was even at Georgetown? Imean you lived in a DC area. I was too, or like too, and he was drafted I think one thousand nine hundred and eighty five.So right, number one droped on nine eighty five. I was too.So well, then you have through his whole career, yeah, and beat those events. So, yeah, dad represented him. Yep, Yep, he was one of my dad's clients and and lovely guy still to thisday, like such a good guy. What is it like being that youngand little and then you're just staring up in Patrick, who's like what ishe happened to have been to? Yeah, Um, like it hurts your neck. Yeah, the thing is like, when growing up like that, II was aware that was an opportunity or experience, like being around theseathletes wasn't normal, like wasn't what everybody was doing, but they were justlike family members. I mean the relationship that my dad has always had withhis clients is always been very close and like mentory and Familio, like youcan always come and stay in our guest room, which they did. Soit was like having just tons of very, very tall uncles. He do youknow? Want to ask you one thing circling back to when you wouldfall asleep next to the heckler. Was it the guy at the bullets gamesthat behind the bench? Yeah, Robin figure. Yeah, he's one ofthe most famous. Her sister would fall asleep. Oh, I'm sorry,your sister would. You're not me. Oh Gosh, no, I'm not. Like I don't know what anybody could sleep through that. He had hislike army boots, he had the chicken. He would bring the books from allthe visiting team coaches and like rip them up and he scream and hewould like stomp with his enormous boots and my sister would just conk out andI'm like, okay, no, I remember the guy. What he's probablythe most famous heckler. Oh, yeah, never. Yeah, it was crazy, though, but the other teams were they interact with him and stufflike yeah, well, the company would like Wave Adam, but like hewas sort of harmless, mostly harmless but just super weird. It was aWeirdo, but I think he was like an attorney or something too. Well, yeah, he's like a profession didn't he went to prison? And thenI read an article one time and like The Washington Post or saw on thelocal news of like somehow he had climbed up one of the traffic signs ontop of like two hundred and ninety five or whatever one of those highways were, and he was like protesting something. He was a little bit off.I think. Not The guy you really want representing you in the courtroom.Maybe, probably not. Probably depends on the charge. Maybe whatever. Maybe, like depends what it was. Yeah, it was a very well known heckler. He sat right across from us. So what what high school did yougo to in the area in these time? I went to Waking Johnson. From there you went to Du like was that a big joelways know youwere going to duke or it's like how did you make that choice? Iwent to my first dude game. My Dad took me in my first duegame when I was twelve I think, and I walked on the campus andI just remember like looking around like wow, like gothic wonderland. Wow, it'sjust the most beautiful campus and that was wasn't really it. I wasjust like wow, this is a great place. But the minute I setfoot in Cameron Indoor Stadium, I was so old. I was like Ihave to go to Duke. Here I am. I'm actually wearing duke blue. It does not planned, but hey, do Um I. Yeah, it'sif you've ever had the opportunity to watch a game, even if it'slike very beginning of the season and they're playing like Santa Clara or whatever like, it's really truly the most incredible place to watch a sporting event. It'selectric and I was sold immediately. And then, you know, seeing kavilland how all the students are out camping out for months, through the deadof winter, just that Camaraderie and excitement around watching the basketball team, Iwas like this is where I have to go. This is the ultimate fanexperience if you're going to be a college student. Did you actually participate inShe Chewski vill like Wu? Did you sleep out there? And I Idid. It wasn't my own tense I would spend. I thankfully, becauseI was part of like the Duke Basketball Family. They took very good careof me. I like adopted coach case assistant, Jerry, who's the mostwonderful woman, as like my mom. So I would go and do myhomework or my school work in the Duke Basketball Office on Tuesdays and bring treatsfrom the gym, like candies and nuts, and she would share all the cookiesthat the players MOMS were cooking or baking and sending. So we hada really nice relationship with coach case staff. But I did spend a lot oftime in Cabo because that's where the fan experience was and I coaches.We would send out pizzas to everybody and stuff. Oh yeah, like youwould come out and they would like hand out t shirts. You get hugeorders of Papa John's. Yeah, I...

...mean, I actually like I Iwould like to go and do that, like I would like to go andbuy everybody there pizzas or stubs. There's something one of these days just forbringing like you know, if there was like an in and out truck inNorth Carolina, like just bring out the truck and they don't have but somethinglike that. Super Bowl. You could go show them how to tailgate theright way. Yeah, it's a little different, I think when you're incollege and also there's very strict rules in cable, so like anything that's combustibleor flammable, and not so much to go very careful. But there aresome like indoor girls that you can plug in and they have they have outletsin the light posts so you can a computer, you can plug in likea electric girl. I'm sure that would probably work. Did you guys haveanything like that Arizona Days? A mini version of that? That's the that'sthe Pinnacle College basketball. There's now it's just a touchdown, but it wasgreat fan experience. Not a lot of camping. Yeah, well, thedesert. Well, they're it's west coast kind of way back to right here. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so you're at Duke. What wasthat experience like? Because, Dude, besides basketball, I mean the wholeexperience. Had A lot of friends who gone there, kids I've coached thathave gone there, people I know. We just were a great experienced.Giys, what was that experience like for you, because everybody had a youwere close with the basketball team and you probably had a lot of friends forthey're hitting me up for tickets and all that. You know, it wasactually the exact opposite. It was so and it was so refreshing to goto do at in high school. That happened all the time. Actually hadone girl to this day it's still like blows my mind that she had theKahon a's to do this. She came up to me after Michael Jordan signedhis one year, thirty six million dollar contract and she's like, so,my dad and I were up late last night trying to figure out how muchmoney your dad just made off that contract. Can you lend me a hundred fiftyseven dollars for a pair of jeans? And I was like, I'm sorry, what? What? None of that happened in college. It waslike people. It was great. People did not ask me for tickets,people to not ask me to go to like get them to bring them withthem, bring them with me, I should say, to games. Itwas it was actually like if you couldn't get into the student section, youalmost didn't want to be there and you would rather just be watching it onTV with other dukies somewhere on campus. You still go to Duke Games now? I do. I do. I don't go as much as I wouldlike to, but I actually was there. The Carolina game often falls on mybirthday and it did this year and, as you know, like Duke Carolinaswitch off on who hosts which game, the first game or like the firstof the second because we play each other in both February and March andthe March Games always the last game of the season. It's usually seniors night. So this year the Carolina game at Duke fell in February and it happenedto fall on my birthday and my husband had never been to a duke game, so I brought him down and it happened to be that game where ByanWilliams and shoe like exploded in the first thirty five seconds. Interesting. Itwasn't what I was hoping it would, because you never want to see thathappen. But Barack Obama was there and that was super cool. So Iwas watching him like half the time. I was just like, like sotaken with the fact that he was there. which the biggest difference between Game Dayat Chapel Hill versus camera like I know it's a little different crowd.Yeah, it is. Well, I mean first of all the Dingdom ismuch larger, much much, much larger. So that obviously fits more students.It's not it's not an intimate like I know that they've changed up theconfiguration, but like when I was a duke is nine thousand, three hundredand twenty four seats all in students band, you know, family less than tenzeroseats, like closer to nine thousand than ten. Dingdom's much larger andDurham in general hasn't proved quite a bit since when I was there, meaninglike there's more to do, there's more bars, more restaurants, but Chapelhills always been more of like a cool town to hang out in and there'smore bars. So, like, I think people are just as excited inCarolina on game days Dukes and Duke Students Are Dick fans are I'm not goingto say they're not, but I feel like they're more scattered. They're eithermore of them in the stadium or the arena or they're just more scattered aroundchuffle hill. What's also if you are, I think, where there the studentsare in relation to the court? Yeah, it was a big thing. Yeah, I mean it Duke like there. I remember one game Iwent to. I can't remember if I was a student yet or not.I don't know if I was a student...

...yet, but one of the guyson the tea on Carolina had gotten arrested and everybody D got a hold ofthe Mug shot and printed out like thousands of copies, and so all thestudents, because you know, the students are on one like Longside, andthen the teams are on the other long side, and then on either endwere Grad students and then the band, and so everybody in the student sections, which is like three quarters of the court, were given the Mug shotsand they would just hold them up and go like this and go like goto guilty. In fact, a lot of the Grad students were judges ropes, like. I don't know how they coordinated this, but they did,because do students are smartasses and amazing like that. And he went like,oh, for eight free throws. I think maybe he made a jump shot. I mean he had the worst game. It's pretty good. Yeah, likethat one. That's good. Yeah, YOU'RE gonna get every advantage you can. Oh, no, absolutely to do the proximity to the student sectionof the court such a big difference. A worthy positions like mention Arizona.Arizona gets thirteen, six hundred and sixty every game, but the students theprime seats for the donors and all you know, court slide and it justit's a different feel. It's allowed, but it's it's okay, it's not. It's not like. I mean they're like on top of you. Ido if you're a team, they're on top of you. So what didyou major in? Do I've major an incredibly useful field, trying to thinkof the word medium history, very useful if you want to be a teacher. I also got a certificate which was like Duke's version of this. Itwas like just short of a major but way more than a minor, andwhat they called markets and management, which is business right. I took businessand I took history and only recently have I've been able to use my historydegree, but I enjoyed it. What are you using it in? II've been working on a project with ESPN and it's all about the history oftailgating, in the history of like the various Game Day cultures that you'll findaround the country when you travel to a place to watch a game, andso it's all like, you know, how did these cultures come to behere, like immigration patterns. It's notable people in the his history of theseplaces, food, culture and on three separate occasions, the the main guy, i. Despn is like, you know, Dana has a degree inhistory, so like she's like an expert at this. Like I'm just sittingthere like, Oh, my dad, finally could call my parents, likethank you so much for spending all that money in my tuition. All theseyears later, it's finally coming in handy. Right. So the the history ofto get is with. It actually would be very interesting because all theyears I play in the NFL, every time that we would go to astadium and you ride through the tailgators. Some places you get to sneak aroundthem, but a lot of yeass you go right through them and it's veryinteresting. They're all a little different and they're all wired a little bit different. The crazies ones. Maybe we're in Oakland. Oh, interesting, okay, yeah, yeah, we got a lot of moon shots in oaklands.Yeah, but like what you'll what they're cooking, what they're wearing? Itvaries, it really does. I mean, yes, you'll always find burghers andhunt dogs, but they are are very strong, obviously, like foodtraditions, and those all are drive from like cultural things and historical things thathave happened in all these towns. So are you guys looking at Pro Sportsand college talegate atmospheres? Yeah, I mean I think we're starting with college, but I would love to look at Pro Sports. I'd love to lookinto the history of NASCAR. I mean if you study like the history oflike Daytona and whyday Tonah and why that particular location, it's very, reallyquite interesting and actually had to do with the firmness of the sand because theycould race the cars on the sand at the beach. So all those,all the racing ones, they're kill get inside the tracks. There's some ofthem. You hear about the Indiana was five hundred tailgate. It's just insane, insane. It's like the crazy thing is when you go through for thefirst time, if you go to one of these races and you're going tothe Infield, you know you go under, you don't know you're going under thetrack, like you know you're going through a tunnel, but it doesn'tlike occur to you that it's the track that you're going underneath. You sortof pig you know, emerge into this grassy area and you look around andthe track is just enormous and it's all around you and it just blows yourmind that you're like in the middle of all of it. It's in tanklike Brucal speedway. Everywhere. They everybody brings her RV's in and it's yeah, yeah, I do a lot of work with the Pocono raceway. Ihost their fan fast. I have the last three years. Is actually justa few weeks ago we were on stage with Jimmy Johnson. Super Fun.There's like thirty threezero people camping out in...

...the Infield. It's and like theyhave double deckers. They've built these things on top of their rvs. Theylike they're hanging out up there like all day. They're watching practice runs andthey're just they're everywhere. You see, like my favorite is like when youcome across the RV's where they come in with for and they'd make a squareand then they have this like courtyard that they've now created and it's this thisepic tailgating spot where they have like six grills, friars, picnic table.I mean it's amazing. I went down to Lsu to a game maybe liketen or fifteen years ago. We got there in a Thursday and then tailgetting there's crazy. Yeah, I mean, but it started like Thursday look likethe parking lot of the steeler game on a Sunday. Like it wasjust nuts. And it was funny because so many people asked us because wewere I was a fan of Ari zone. Arizona's like zero football falling and stuff. We're there's like two hundred Arizona fans out of a ninety nine thousandthere. But as they're kind of saying why you here and stuff, butthen it also say, have you ever been to old miss? They wereso worried about all miss because of the tailgating at old miss and they weremore worried about talking about old MRS tailgating versus Lsu than the game itself.That was there's a lot of pros down there so competitive, especially a secis so good for that. It's so good for that. But, likeyou were saying with the dance, these guys would have like parquet floors andstuff that they'd rolled there. They would be, you know, like seventyfeet by fifty. Yeah, it was crazy. It was like a thingI've ever seen. A hundred percent, I mean it. There's actually agreat book, if you're ever interested in reading a book. It's written bya Guy Ning Warren Saint John, who is from Alabama and I think hemoved to New York at eighteen to go to Columbia University get a journalism degreeand I think he's been here ever since. Ever since, I think he's eitherLoll Street Journal in New York Times, I can't remember, but he tooka year off for Sabbatical and went back to Alabama to write a bookabout tailgating for Alabama Football Games. And the book is called Rammer Jammer YellowHammer. So rammer jammers the cheer and Yellow Hammers the State Bird, andit is like so funny and there's so many unique, interesting, quirky weirdcharacters that are all real people and like just I mean they're all rolling inon Tuesday. The game Saturday and they're rolling in on Tuesday into the parkinglot. You, like, do any of you people work right? Like, what do you do for living? Like, do you work? Bea satellite from your laptop and you can be anywhere because it's so good foryou. Otherwise, what's your story? Men? Yeah, and then justtook just to go at it that hard for that many days. It's likehow do you do that? Like that's nuts. It's a lot, Ifeel like, especially if you don't have an RV, I mean showering restrooms. It's always not as Nice. Right, exactly. So you left Duke andand what was your next transition for you? After Duke? I movedto La and I you guys, ever seen the show entourge? Yes,I was, yeah, the assistant, you know, the assistant character.I'm totally blinking on right now, which is weird because I've seen the showthe jillion times. That would rexly, the guy, the character who weplayed. That was me. I worked to the town agency. I hadto ares that I worked for simultaneously and I got my feet wet in thelike entertainment world. Sorry, my apartment is in New York. Woud Ifollowized windows are closed and this is still how bad it is. Yeah,I was like Hollywood Grad schools, like learning the INS and outs of howmovies get made and TV shows get made and who gets paid what and whyand how, because I thought I wanted to do what my dad did ordoes and he was like no, you, I will know absolutely not. Sogo try Hollywood. Maybe I'll like that. And I did not loveit, but I learned a lot and those skills and like the things thatI learned actually ended up coming in handy moving forward. I went from thereto produce a TV show at twenty three years old called permitted the Christie's aboutDoug Christie and his wife Jackie, and be a player, and then shortlythereafter I started building hungry fan and my first for a into the media sideof hungry fan was to cover the two thousand and twelve London Olympics for NBCUniversal. So I produced and hosted fifteen segments, one every day, fromthe Games, which I would never have known how to do had I notprobably worked at UTA for a little bit and then produce that show. Wow, that's a lot like because you people, that's what the shows about, isreally finding out those steps it took...

...you to get to where you are, and too many people take one, they don't like it and they failand you know, most of our gifts has the great stories of it.Didn't really like that. I'm going to move on. I'm to do somethingelse and it just hard work and put that effort in, that time behindit, and so we're you. Have you always been a cook? Healways loved to cook. I have loved cooking, mostly because I've always lovedeating and my mother is not a huge cook. She if she didn't haveto eat, she wouldn't. She's just not into food, which is soutterly bizarre and foreign to me. But so I think when I was likefive she taught me how to make scrambled eggs so that I could make myselfbreakfast on Saturday mornings, that I even have to wake her up. Usuallymy dad would be traveling. But then I discovered the craft grated Parmeershan cheesecan, that green one, remember, the green one that used to beopen everybody's fridge. On the back of that can for years was a recipefor Caesar Salad. So I just started making Caesar Salad like nonstop, likethat was my job, short order to Cook One item Caesar Salad, wrinklingand scrambled eggs here and there, and then eventually, actually, while Iwas a duke, I went abroad for my Junie your year and I studiedin Italy and I studied in France and while I was in both countries Itook cooking classes and learned techniques, like more technical stuff and and how toknow, like how do you make a classic beshmeal sauce, which is thebasis for a lot of things, and how do you make mannaise and howdo you make at Chup, and sort of took that and I've just beenlooking ever since. So then, have you gone to like Louisiana and Mississippito learn that kind of stuff cooking for the for your book? I haven'tgone to those places. I mean the beauty of like technology since I graduatedfrom College and Oh five is the you know, recipes and videos and techniquesare very accessible now. I mean I have like Julia Child's book, Ihave like the Big Encyclopedia of art of Art of the art of cooking andcooking techniques, but I've also just spent a lot of time reading and watchinglike recipe videos and learning the Cajun stuff and you know, which is actuallyrooted in French but obviously adapted to that culture. So yeah, thank thanksGoogle Youtube. In college there's about eight of US lived in a house together. When you're in we decided it was getting a little expensive to always eatout, you know. So we're trying to be sourceful and the one guycame in with a Julie Child's Cook Book and it was like, I thinkflipped through it and we just work that you did a box and stuff.Yeah, you like the crazy the Heckler DC gave it is ripped it upand when we get yeah, they'd like a yeah, that Guy Robin figuredid you Robin figure it up? Yeah, probably, I remember she'd yes,Nominal Cook. She well, and her book like it's called the joyof cooking. I believe it's it's a little advance and there's some recipes thatlike you're never going to make. They're just sort of older style recipes,but in general, you know, there's some great ones in there that ifyou can just learn some of these techniques to make certain things, you reallycan apply it to quite a bit, like even like just the idea oflike is it low and slow or hot and fast? If it's low andslow, you're going to get sort of like falling off the bone, nomatter what your protein is, and it's going to be moist and soft andyou have to remember you know, like marinating is key if it's hot andfast, like keeping an eye on it and quick flavors and making sure there'salways enough oil or fat to cook through and so it doesn't burn. Likejust to stuff like that. You get all of that from her book andwe should have looked at it more closely, but we're twenty year old for aboise. Yeah, you know, and it was just heavy reading fortalking at using any of that. Yeah, do you cook with your mom now? I Cook for my mom. She she on occasion like a verylike usually holidays, thanksgiving. She will sue chef for me and I willjust give her very explicit tasks. It's not that she can't cook, shejust doesn't enjoy it. That is the worst part of cookie use. preparation. Yeah, everything open. That's what I always have to do in thekitchens, cut everything up for my wife so that it's easy ready to go. Yes, but it's really important it. If you it can really especially formaking multiple dishes at once. If you don't have the thing, theingredients, prepped it, nothing will come out at the same time. Everythingwill come at it different times and you're just like, hang on, letme go get that and then twenty minutes later you come back. Yeah,well, also history then I like the...

...origin of the hungry. Feel like, how did that all star? Yeah, so really it goes back to whatwe were talking about earlier, which is like the fan experience and andsoaking that up. So, as I said, I know covered the Olympics, I had an opportunity in the media space to cover three super bowls.I've done a lot of morning shows and nine time shows and actually had alot of opportunities to understand Game Day from the media perspective. Obviously very familiarwith Game Day from the player and an agent perspective. I work for teens. I get that. So when you think about like the stakeholders in GameDay and Game Day meeting, like everyone coming together for insert sporting event here, whether it's a race, a match or a game, there's really notthat many people like stakeholders involved. I mean, yes, you can getinto like the air marks of the world and the merge sellers, but likethose people aside, you have you have the people who compete and their representatives, you have the people who own the team's and you have the journalists andthe people who cover it and broadcast it. But the other entity that's, inmy opinion, incredibly important, if not the most important, because they'rethe ones who buy the tickets, who show up, who watched the programming, are the fans, and there was never anybody creating their experience or helpingthem to entertain better or know what they were doing or know what to door how to do it. We're to show up and when, and that'snot to say that like, like they needed it. It's just there wasn'tanybody there for them for that piece of Game Day. And I liken whatI'm trying to build and what I've been building and hungry fan to what MarthaStewart built. It's it is a lifestyle brand and she's like a lifestyle guru. Now it's not the same audience like Connecticut Housewives. There might be somewho are huge sports fans who might want to tail gate or home gate,but for the most part that's not what we're we're not talking about the housewives. We're talking about eighty percent of America actually who tailgate annually, and whoknows how many people home gate, which is like throwing the watch party athome and inviting friends and family so it all started with my love for thefan experience, which I've had since I was a really little kid, throughDuke, through after Duke, and wanting to provide a service to an overlookedand neglected but super important, Wonderful Group of people. So what is yourfavorite recipe? Everybody asked me that. It's like the number one question,like what's your favorite game to as be and I say, like, who'syour favorite of your children? I got that the other day and he actuallyanswered. The kids think it's all the other ones. They think it's that. Yes, I mean that's what report, as long as my daughter think toturn my two boys think it's them, but they always say it's each other, so it doesn't I if I had to pick a dish for somebodyto make me on Game Day, I'll put it that way. Like toeither sit down and eat because it's there. I would say buffalowing, because Ilove buffalowing. No, no, if that is that in the inthe parking lot, tail gating, or is that at home, jail gating? Anywhere? Give me muflow any time and I'm very happy. Girl likegrilled fried with your favorite way to do it, preferably not fried, becausethen they get like oftentimes they're they get very dried. People are not sogood, even though fried shouldn't actually make them dry out, they just usuallyjust overcook them most of the time. So world is great. Baked isgreat. Preferably not breaded, because then like, I feel like that saucesort of gets lost. It just gets soaked into the breading and it doesn'thave that thing powerful kick. So preferably not breaded and then like lots ofextra sauce. Yeah, my favorite thing to eat when I go to agame. NACHO's helping every stadium I go to. That's what I got totry. somethings are pretty good. It's I sadly, this is this islike last amazing into a professional cook like this. It's the notchos with thecanny yellow sauce. Oh Gosh, I love it, though I didn't evenwant you to hear that. Well, you know it's gonna be like oneday they are more will and and there will be like cockroaches and Nacho sauceright and will be all of it is last people dipping tweakies in it liketo stay alive. Oh Jeez, no, I used to go to I grewup into soon used to go to...

Tucson tworld games, the minor leagueteam of the Astros at a time and that was for I didn't even watchthe game, I just kept going back and Notchos my parents happening here.But it was. It can be quiet space cheese. It is. Yeah, it is. It last forever and it it'll. Yeah, I don'twant to know what it does to your inside, like glue. Yeah.So what's next for the hungry fan? A great question. Well, wehave really been focusing a lot on rolling out a lot of products and andand working with product brands to help create that part of their game day too. So we are getting very heavy into the product space. I'm excited aboutwe are doing a lot of events. We actually just in talk to dosome stuff around the Super Bowl and Kentucky Derby just this morning. And we'reworking on some content, whether it's going to be digital or TV, TVDbut we've got some great partners and networks that are are interested and that we'reworking with. So I don't know, like step three in the fifty stepplan for world that total world domination? Maybe, I know, maybe that'sa three, like I think we're footed than that. Maybe like step thirteen. There's a lot of there like that really tells you this is how youshould do it, this is the best way to do with that passion exactlyexactly. I think there's a there's a great niche for what you're doing andbeing really I appreciate that. I I feel the same way and, morethan anything, like I really for so many years it's been very one directional, like me to you, I'm the expert and I'm going to tell youwhat to do and like that's great, and some people eat and want that. But what I really am excited about, I'm trying to desperately figure out thebest way to do this is, you know, how do we howdo we continue to grow community where we can talk to each other and how, you know, whether it's you know, in the world of social media it'scalled user generated content, where you take pictures of what you're doing andyou share it and we can help fell out for people who are curious.You know, what is it that you're doing? If you're the committed tailgatorand you know what you're doing, but somebody's more curious, like how doI do that? How do I achieve that level? We can help,but I really wanted to be more of a reciprocal thing as opposed to justme telling you what to do because I'm just so smart. Well, Ilike on your website that you can put in where you live and you you'regoing to help us find out a bar to go sit at and yeah,yeah, sports bar radar, we're going to. We have to work onthat to build that up a little bit more and make it more robust,but I think we have like seventy five cities, both United States and Canada, in there, so that's pretty cool work. Does it tell you likewhat kind of food you're getting, or can you put any of that queryin we I yes, they are sorted by kind of food. They're sortedby like dive bar or like like a grill. We actually put on abunch of college students to help me go through everything and and put filters onit to make it easier to use. Lett Dave and I know if youneed us to go toast of food, Andy, Sports Corps and Catsberg andwill will have right ones or anywhere else. Yeah, it's car wold travel.Now. You guys also wrote a cookbook. Yes, I had herherens Game Day cookbook. Yeah, it so. It came out three yearsago, so almost three years ago, like odd late August, two thousandand sixteen. It was published by time ink, which is now meredith.They got bought. That's unimportant. And the book is a hundred and sixtyfive recipes, forty of which I collected from professional athletes and Olympians. Sorecipes from Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing, Lebron, James Boomer, Sigason,Andrea can see, Steffi graph and so on and so forth. It's allmeant to be. I gave them like one prompt and it was send mea recipe that you would serve if you were having a super bowl party andinviting your friends over. So Lebron would have a super healthy super bowl partyand that shrik actually like. That would be what I want from my cheatday. But his recipe is still delicious. Everybody else that you know, likeFriday o Gra me, it's really good. Like I got Swedish meatballsfrom boomer, very very young stuff, and then all the recipes are reallymeant to provide you delicious things that you can make, whether you're home gettingor tail getting. Yeah, I have toothing Mi Guacomole. Yeah, Nakit, and then I would make Buffalo Chicken dip. Well, there yougo. Those two things are they're always a hit. Everybody eats. Yeah, the GUACOLI. And another's a trick.

I think he's maybe lime juice orsomething. When quark only starts to get a little bit old, though, if it's out. You know, look at late. Let's say you'reat the chief's game and you're eating Gulocomeli DIPP and it's been there for anhour. Yeah, that starts to get a little dicey. But what doyou put is? Yeah, I always put extra line in mind. Yeah, it's acid limera women is generally what you can use to prevent or tostall the Browning of any fruit or vegetable that browns, including apples too.So like if you make Apple Pie, one of the things that they'll tellyou to do is just soaked your apples and a little bit of water withlemon once they're cut, and then that way they don't frown before you cook. What's like now? You covered the game to experience in the Olympics.How does that differ versus like a redskins game. Like what's like? Ohmy God, hiding at the Olympics. What's that like? It's not reallydone. But what you'll do Olympics beside that. Well, actually, what'sreally interesting is that we're really the only country that the tail gates. Likeif you go all over the world, you will never ever find what wedo in like very games in England and southern thing they don't do it theway that we do it. I mean they have they have pubs, theylove their pups, they their B ours and they'll go and they'll drink quitea bit. It's more drinking than it is food. But yeah, we'rethe only ones that tailgate. What you will find in the Olympics, particularlythe summer Olympics, because they're larger, there's more sports and they're generally thewinter sports are sort of on two campuses. You have like the mountain area wherethe Alpine stuff is happening, and then the main other area. Soit's bread at too spread out, but it's a summer games. You'll finda multitude of but they're called hospitality houses and every country has a hospitality house. So when you go it's like, I mean I remember in London.We went to Austria and it was snowing in the front yard in the middleof the summer and they had like the huge recola like horn thing and itwas made to look like a ski Shelle and like you went a few doorsdown was Switzerland and there's girls in there with like I shouldn't say girls,as you say women, with like the lacy white shirt and like leader hose, anything, and they're making were rings and there's Faun do and there's chocolateand it was just like it's great. I went. I loved going tothe Ireland House. It was so much fun. I Red Beer and countit's for they have some of the best like team spirit you will find anywhere. They are a hoot and it happened to be the gold medal match betweenin boxing, women's boxing. Was the first year women's boxing and they're arewoman, Katie Taylor, their boxer, was competing for gold and they werejust going bonkers and it was so much fun. And they had Irish bluecheese burgers that were insanely delicious, and that's not because I had a bunchof Guinness, it was because they worked that good. Maybe I mean youcan't like Chuck Guinness. I can go down like, you know, likea lighter beer, or even just more like like a stella, you know, like that goes down. Getn't like eating right is. It's a mealin itself. There's no doubt. Yeah, it's not. Truly. No,no, David, I've been on a truly kick lately. So,Oh, yeah, those are you though. Those go right down and the whoowhat do I feel so weird for right? We try to hide itbecause we don't want to look like the guys are not drinking beer, butwe're drinking truly. So, yeah, yeah, you probably just it's embarrassinganyway. You look at you know, listen, it's very popular now.Are All the brands are getting in on it. White cloth. Well,white clause being so one of the last things we do we go through ourguests and we talked about it's caught. We call it the no huddle drill, and had two minute where we blastom questions at you and get you toanswer me as fast you can. Okay, I'll do my bat. So,Dave, shoot, okay, if you could trade places one person fora day, anyone in the world who would that be a lot. I'veYeah, Oh Gosh, I don't know. WHO WOULD I want? Well,your history major, so we could willow to see. Stead Elizabeth thefirst kind quick history done. Wow, why? Why would it be her? Because she was like the most badass person in the history of ever andshe happened to be a woman. She was an incredible, incredible leader.How many heads did she cut off? Not that many, not as famouslyas her father did. I should fall. So what was it? Your favorite? I think your favorite sports venue. I mean Cameron. Yeah, she'sthat was a that's an easy we...

...gave you a little soft. Yeah, sorry, Dana. Do you have a pet peeve? I have alot of pet peegs. I mean they're not necessarily related to far away.You are a tourist in New York. Leave. Please know that we arevery nice people, but if you are walking five people wide on a sidewalk, you are in everybody's way. So to know more than two and whenwe ask you nicely to move on the first go round, just move,because if you don't move after one nice excuse me, we are going topush you like. I'm going to remember that when I'm in New York juststay away from your area. Thef that. Just be mindful that. Like wedon't really use cars, we use our feet. So the sidewalks outour roads, and so if you're blocking the whole road, no going now. Right, I hear you. All right, if we got a holdof your phone, who would be the most famous person that you have inyour phone? Oh, I mean, I don't know. How do youdo? When we say how about the entertainment world? I mean I haveMichael in there, I have him J in there. I Have Charles Berkeley, who I message. We have the same birthday. So I sent himhappy birthday texts once a year and that's it. I don't bother him otherthan that. So, and I have Patrick Nice. Those are sold.So what would we always ask me? Like to if you could go backand tell a young Dana and give her some advice, what would the advicebe? Everybody's going to tell you throughout your life to have a little bitmore patience, and maybe you should consider that to go get her. That'sall it is. I have zero patients. I just want to make it,I want to make it happen. I want to go do it now. I want to do it the best I can immediately. Dave, Iguarantee she's like those two. And people drive slow in the fast lane.There's no fault. That's my pipe, pearaballs, move over it. That'swhy we have Right Lane Path. Also, people that are bad and mergers.It's the worst. Yes, we take it goes faster if you justtake turns. Exactly. It's so much more efficient that way. I usedto live in La I could talk about this for hours. Like people theredo not understand how to have, how to merge, because they're also,what's the word? When you feel like, I'm totally blanking, but you know, when you feel like you deserve things. But you know, ifwhatever, I can't think. You know what I yes, thank you.I don't. I was like a source with dee, but it doesn't.Everybody's so entitled. I'm like, just take turns and there won't be traffic. My worst one is like two lines getting longer longer than it's the guythey won't let anybody up and like he has a big truck and then hejust runs them both and, yeah, I get so angry. Yeah,or those people who come and like they wait, wait, wait, wait, wait for the exit ramp and then you know everybody's lined up there inline, and then they go all the way to the front and they cutin right at the front. Horrible. No, if they if we're goingto make a hungry fan movie, who would play you? Who would playme? I have no idea. Somebody Fun, playful and Perky and snarky. I don't know who. I don't know some of WHO's your favorite actress? Then you gotta my favorite actress wouldn't play me because she'd be older.I mean it would be me like in my s maybe, but I'm alsopartial to cake Blin. I Love Kate blench at. I think she's agreat actress, but she would not play me. I'd be not the rightperson. She would be great. You're thinking like somebody. What's her namefrom mess now? Kristen Wig, know, the one paye kid and came again. She's funny. She I'm she's way funnier than I am, butsure she could play me. That would be okay. So you've been insports your whole life. You've been around all these great athletes. What's yourfavorite sports movie? My favorite sports movie is a League of their own.That's I still have not seen that. I know it's a it's a classn'tseen. I've never seen the gosh even watch slap shot either. I didn'tsee that. There's a lot of stuff I'm still I mean honorable menum forEddie with what big Golberg when she plays the coach of the next it's nota great movie, but honorable mention. Honorable Mention. Is youing? Andthat one? Because no, Adalius and Rick Fox. Yeah, you'd knowYour Dad. I thought you might mention his movie, but you probably SpaceShan. That's my kids love that. They were a little. I lovemovie, but like if a League of their own is on TV, Iwill stop and I will watch it like a whatever I'm doing, even ifI'm working on who to stay on. WHO's your favorite character in that?Gina Davis. Yeah, Daddy Henson. Obviously I mean Tom Hanks. Isthe two of them together, but she's...

...awesome. You know, that's whatreally pretty. Crying a base there's no crowd, there's no crying baseball.Donna's yet Anna Great Casts Really, Really Fun, good movie. Sol BillPullman. Who Doesn't love the pullman? We all look everybody, come on, we really appreciate you coming on to a podcast and talk a little bitabout your story and, you know, tell us all about the hungry fanand you and your book and what you're doing today. It was great andI learned a lot and I really enjoyed it. Dave, would you think? Well, I can't wait to incorporate some recipes right out. We're rightoutside the penguins arena. So well, yeah, we're. Yeah. Sowhen you start doing the NFL and going around to all the tailgates, I'llgive you my top ten. Okay, sounds good. I wish I hadthat two years ago. I was do I did it. I did anNFL tell getting show on CBS sports two years ago. So when we getit back up and going, or new version of it, I will.I'm will going Buffalo Wings and buffalo because they're pretty good up there. Yeah, they are pretty good. Oh, yeah, for sure. Well,thank you guys for having me and I just want to get a quick mentionin. If you are a fan of your show, your friend, afan of huddle of Duthin, Dave, head to hungry bandcom. I puttogether a special discount in the stores. If you just go to shop andyou use the promote gut gusts to US twenty. Twenty percent off anything that'sin there. All right, great, we'll share that on social media andput it all out there and let everybody here awesome. Thank you, guysso much. Thanks, was great to meet you. Thanks, day data. Hi, guys,.

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