Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

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Chris Long

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Super Bowl Champion and Walter Payton Man of the Year award winner, Chris Long, joins the huddle. We talk Chris' favorite twitter accounts, his charity Waterboys, and a drinking game called "Cell Phone Roulette". See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I am former NFL quarterback gust forI played quarterback fifteen years in the NFL. This is my show called huddle upwith gusts. Each week I team up with my longtime friend Dave Hagarand we talked with guests about how sports shaped their lives. Pro Athletes,business executives, community leaders, everyone has a story to tell about sports.We invite you to huddle up with gusts this week in the huddle. Laurena football blue blood. This two times super bowl champion has established himself withdistinction on and off the field, the second overall picking the two thousand andeight draft. He retired last month after eleven seasons in the NFL. Knownas much for his philanthropy as a seventy career sacks. His generosity has helpedpeople across the globe. A recently named Walter Peyton NFL man of the year. Please welcome into the huddle my good friend Chris Long. All right,Dave. Today today we got a great guests on. Very good friend ofmine played in the NFL for ten eleven years. I'm not sure it seemslike forever, but just an outstanding human. Walter Peyton Man of the Year awardwinner just has been just then. For every community that he's ever livedin, he's try to do something and be a part of it. Sotoday we're going to have on my good friend Chris Long, and so Ithink we should have a really fun time with this interview and so welcome tothe huddle, Chris, and we appreciate you coming on with us today.Thanks, Dude. What's up? So you were born in California. Whatdo you what do you remember about California? Man, you know, not much. It was the first eight years of my life. You know,I remember little things here and there. I certainly remember the tail end ofmy dad's career because the first five years I was around I really didn't haveany idea what was going on or the significance of it. I think inhis last couple years I remember darting to realize that he did something pretty coolfor a living. You know, we go to like the pro bowl andwe actually joke about this the other day because I took waylon to our cityto meet to go to Isaac Bruce's thing a couple days ago and I gota picture with Waylon and Isaac Bruce. I said when you're going to wantthis picture down the line and way just like yeah, whatever, because he'sthree years old, and my dad laughed and he like, you know,I used to take you the pro bowl all the time and you meet peoplelike Barry Sanders and you'd have no idea who they were. So that waskind of how I consume my dad's career. He he was just my dad andwe were just, you know, living in Calie you know, andhe played football for living. But I had no idea the significance of itand it wasn't really till the hall of fame and all that stuff that Istarted to get it. You know, in the hall of fame by thatand I kind of understood. But first eight years of my life it wasa it was a cool place to grow up. We grew up in inSouth Bay or Dondo Beach, then moved to Palas Verdi's for the last coupleyear. There's and my pop's just, you know, being from back east, wanted to get us out of the West Coast. said it was goingto be a tough place to raise kids. There's a turbulent time and in theearly T s. So it was it was the best thing I everhappened to me. I Love Virginia. It's home still for me. Ilive in Charlesto. Lived at my parents house right now, so it's hardto get away. You know, they're working on my house. So weare family of for living with my folks. So I'm definitely a homebody and Virginia'shome for I shot a retirement and into your parents house. Yeah's astough transition. I don't I don't know. To me, guys to play elevenyears in the League and make enough money for their own pad, butthey move in their parents house when they finish. I mean retirement can suckin some ways, it can be awesome in a lot of ways. Ithink part of it is just like you need to you know, you needa time at well, I thought about like, Hey, should I retirein the spring if I'm thinking about it, because maybe I'll be happiest then,like I'll be most relaxed. I maybe should I do it during camp, because then I'll be like yes, I like I don't have to goto camp. Should I do? Should I not do in the debt ofsummer because I don't have much going on. You stay busy, what I reallyshouldn't have done was retired right before I had to move into my parentshouse, because this is made the transition crazy. But we're having a goodtime and you know my parents, it's a great great grandparents and, youknow, chasing whaling around and helping out with my six month old Luke.It's just I'm up late watching Games with my dad. I was up watchingthe finals, the Blues Games with my dad. It's been fun, honestly. You know, spatially, it's not like you have your own house,but it is nice to like wake up in the morning, go we breakfastmy dad and my mom and then watch games of my dad at night.It's pretty cool. So do you still do like? So when Gunnar Gabecome home right I'm always making them work in the yard, cut the grass, do something. I'm like, you...

...guys got to do this. You'recoming home paying for college, You I do. Did Your Dad make youdo any chores around the house? Well, so I've been trying to like justvolun her, you know, stuff as much as I can. Youknow, every night I go get as dinner. Yeah, I offered todo yard works. Actually like to do hard work. I when I grewup, my dad used to make me, I think just in still like hardwork. He's just made me do like pointless yardwork tasks, like movethe mulch over there, like this giant Mountain Mulch, and then like ithad to go somewhere else, like so it never really needed to go overthere. So I kind of didn't catch on at that point. But hewas giving me pointless task just to get me to work. And you know, he actually made me get a job in masonry when I was like fifteenand of course I I I saved up all that money to buy by theugliest possible accessories for my f f one hundred and fifty possible. I meanlike every chrome accessory, chrome door handles, a brush guard, you know,dual exhaust, all that ugly crap. I had the big Ford sticker onthe back with the lady land on the the Ford stickers. They willhop babe laying on the forward sticker and so yeah, I mean, likemy dad made me do a lot of chores growing up, but it's kindof lightened up actually now I got to kind of twist our arm to makeme do anything. They're great host and I feel kind of like I'm stealingbeing around the house now. Growing up with if two brothers had to bea very competitive environment. Probably got you into sports early. Yeah, yeah, I mean it wasn't. And we were in curasive plate. We wereencouraged to play like every sport we could. So I played for sports in highschool. My brothers played a bunch of sports and I think we wereencouraged to find our own way. It wasn't just about football and certainly wetook to football in our own different ways. You know, col in the Leaguenow for eight or nine, eight years my brother Howie working for theraiders, but the competition was was mostly between my younger brothers, Howie andKyle, because they were only year apart. You know, being Irish twins orwhatever you call it, that certainly, you know, heighten the sense oflike Hey, we're wearing this fox hole together and we're going to bebest friends sometimes and we're going to be enemies every other day. You know, they would come home from school and they were lumped up because they werefighting each other or you know, I had to break it up all thetime, like I was the older brother. I was, you know, afew years older than the then Kyle. So it wasn't like being kyle.We're really in competition much and him and how he are mostly fighting.So so who was the boss of the house? was that your mom orwas that your dad? When you guys got in trouble, the boss ofthe house? Well, you know dad was. Certainly you know it wasfeared, but but my mom, you know, the one with the thenuclear code, is the one you got a fear. I mean because she'sthe one who can you know when he's on the road. When he wasdoing the Fox show or or whatever, it was one phone call and andlike it was almost worse if my mom called and said, hey, theseboys are running me ragged. Like then if we did something right in frontof my dad. Chris. Was your mom athletic? You know she wouldsay yes, she she placed tennis, she's good at tennis. What sheis is she's she's real competitive. She's a really good swimmer. My momis very competitive, underratedly competitive. And you know, my dad gets alot of credit for all that, but I take after my mom as muchI take after my dad and in personality. So she's been a big part ofkind of shaping me as a person and a athlete. But yeah,she she won her like Touls match the other day, so I should probablynote that. Yeah, it should probably like to hear that. Did youhave some when you were young and growing up? We talked about your parents. who were the coaches that made a big impact in your life? OhMan, I could go from from the beginning up. You know, myLittle League Baseball coach, Chris Miller, who was a tremendous guy, taughtme a lot about hard work and team work. I was my first realserious commitment Little League Baseball. You know, before that it's kind of you're committedbut you're picking daisies in the Outfield, you know, that sort of thing. You turned on. It's like okay, you're in the big leagues. You get drafted to the mcentire little league here in in Charlottesville. ChrisMiller's this legendary coach, coach the elks. You know, we were black andyellow, we were we were like the Badass team and and he wasthe Badass coach. You know, he always had a lot of LEA.I Garrett right here and he was just...

...he was just the type of guythat would try to teach kids about life and about sports. And any's aGuy That's still coaching there twenty two years later. No coach in the elks. What position were you on the ELP? Seeing him once or twice? Thattook whalen to meet him last year. Just a good man. And thenguys like Sammy Bill, who anybody from Charlottesville would know, who wasa batting coach, who I would go in his warehouse for hours and hewould just pitch to his arm fell off and he threw the nicest PP Imean he was just that guy that had the sweetest PP and and he wouldhe would literally dead a winner. No heat in his in his in hiswarehouse down there downtown and he was just throw two kids all day and hewould teach about work ethic and I learned a lot about repetition and work ethicthrough him and he passed away about a year ago but really affected countless livesin the charlots Hill area. And then you know high school coach is JohnBlake, my football coach. Learned a lot from him. You know,he'd certainly somebody I still keep in touch with. I'll grow, I'll grow. To me is like a family member. You know, he's a guy whowho really turned me into a man. You know, when I got tocollege I wasn't necessarily man. Physically I was a man, but mentallyI hadn't fully developed, and he was somebody who took me to the brinkof quitting and you know, from there it was one of those things whereI had to make a decision. Am I a quitter or can I pushpast that? And so I credit him for all that mental toughness I neededthrough my career. So I had a bunch of coaches and, like Imentioned, you know, working, working masonry taught me a lot about hardwork. And you know, that was only one year. But if itweren't for my dad put me in the right leagues in the right situations,like hooking me up with Sammy Beale, you know, sent you know,counseling me to go to Uva, although that was my decision. You know, these people wouldn't have been in my life. So my family did agreat job a surrounding me with people. Chris, we're going to move ona little more about your high school career. At I think they called stab thatwhat they called and yes, and Ann's, Bellfield. So who wasyour best buddy at St Ann's? Man, you know, I got I'm lucky, man. I've got a lot of them. I still got alot of them, and that's what I love about, you know, homehere. I mean there's a hundred great places to live, but for mehome is home and that's kind of like. I know you feel the same waywith Pittsburgh. You know, you love St Louis, and St Louis, you guys were happy as hell. They're but like home just calls youback and and you know, for me I've had an opportunity to live inSt Louis, I've had an opportunity to live in Boston, I've had anopportunity to live in Philly, all great season their own right. I've beenaround the world. have been to La you know, spent time their training, MIAMI, man, there's a ton of places I could live, butI live here because of my friends and you know that. And I thinkit's beautiful and it's just where I grew up. Chris, how would youdescribe yourself in high school? Like you, I know you're a multi sport starmost likely, but like big man on campus, what like you haveother interest. What was your what was Chris Long like in high school?I was just same where I am now, just a you know, a littlebit different. More should be to my own drummer and just I thinkI was a good kid, but I certainly wasn't mature. I mean Iwas probably more mature than other kids in a lot of ways, but youknow, I had a lot to learn about, you know, hard work, about focus, you know, and a lot of growing up to do, you know. So I think you know when you look back at yourself, whether you're in high school or or college or your early s, andyou know not to digress too much, but I just feel like you're nevera finished product. And when I look back at myself in high school orall those stages, you're like man, I've grown a lot and and Ithink that's what's pretty cool. And I think even into your s you're stillgrowing up and and I'll look back at myself, hopefully five years from now, and be like what the hell was I doing? Or like, youknow, there's certain things that that I can improve at all the time andand and high school just shows you g how far you come. But Iwas I was A. I like to play pranks the same way I didand in St Louis, you know, you probably heard, we used tolike to play about the pranks. You know, we would. This probablypissed a lot of people off. We you know, we we would aggwe my buddies. We Dag each other's houses and paintball each other's cars upand you know, all sorts of shenanigans that probably wasn't so funny to theparents of those kids and vice versa. But we were always, you know, just plan, plan pranks and having fun and and I like to inhigh school the same thing I like do...

...now, hang out with my buddiesand and and stay active and play sports. So you you would hang out withyour buddies. I would do the same thing in high school. We'dall hang out, we'd have a lot of fun. But you cross thatwhite line like that was one thing that I always learned from my dad.You Cross that white line. It doesn't matter what you were doing before,you go out and play and you play hard. And now I've always donethat. You kind of like that too? Yeah, yeah, me, likefor me, My Dad, my dad's whole thing was whatever you do, I don't care if you're a football player, I don't care if you'reA, you know, firefighter, I don't care if you're whatever you dofor a living. You you do, you take pride in it and thatwas something for me that you take pride in your work and I took pridein my work and everything I did and and and, looking back on it, there was one thing. Even paintball and Carl Huh, even paintballing cars. Yeah, even paintballing cars. went all out. I mean like literallywent all out. Like I probably shouldn't go all the way into it,but we had some pretty spectacular paintball battles that probably spilled over into areas thatthey shouldn't have spilled over into. But you know, we had a lotto learn about focus. But you know, maybe I misspoke earlier. I knewI got hard work pretty early. I got what it was like togrind. I grind it out early. You know, I was three sportathlete. You know, I was after every basketball practice, I had aweight program I was in the weight room till nine at night training for football, and it's the winner, you know. So I was on a college typeschedule. You know, in baseball I would take batting practice as muchI could. You know, in football I was I was obsessed with,you know, my craft and and you know I took pride and never missinggames. I took pride and all that stuff. You know, I thinkI understood what it was, what it was all about to work hard prettyearly. But I didn't have a lot of adversity. I mean I hadadversity. I had doubters. You're always going to have that. I thinkthat's kind of the sexy thing now say I had adversity. I had doubters, and everybody did. I mean I had people that listen. I hadpeople that because of who my pops was or because I went to a privateschool and all the public school football circles and everything, it was, youknow, he's only getting a scholarship because of his dad, he's only allstate because it was dad. Like anything I did was, hey, it'sbecause of your pop. So I mean those that was my adversity. Ihad a lot of people doubt me there and I wasn't. I wasn't necessarilya great player right off the Bat. I was actually a bad football playeruntil, you know, nineteen grade and so I mean my ninth grade yearwe were in the state champions tonight and play Lick. I mean, soit wasn't like I was a stud right off the bat. So I hadto work and grind that out and and that that was kind of what Iwas like. And Yeah, I mean I didn't take shit from anybody.I mean, you know, I played football or whatever I was doing.You know, we were liable to throw down. I mean it was justlike that was what competing was. And and it wasn't just football. Imean there were, there were a bunch of sports. I learned a lotfrom, you know, playing baseball, playing travel baseball, going and gettinghumbled by these country dudes out here in Virginia. Yeah, that was justlike your ass. And they were a lot tougher than you. They havemustaches earlier in you, and I mean you. That's what planing a bunchof sports is all about. I mean it's encountering different, you know,different people that you wouldn't play with it your private school or or in yourcircle. Who was the first college that started recruiting you? WAS IT Virginia? Well, I remember I got a couple of my first letters and Ithought there were a huge deal, like just a letter. I had aletter from like the cow bears and it was like one of my first onesand I remember like just kind of freaking out and actually opened it. Iremember I was down at the Shell station below my high school and I wasgetting some BC powder. Remember BC powder, but keep uster powder. It's that. It's like it's like advill powder, advil. Okay, just put inyour water. It's total, like it's total, like construction worker,like you know, like get through your day. Yes, that's all.I was working. I was taking BC powder in high school, but Iwas going down to the Shell Station to get my BC potterer and and Isat there on the in the parking lot and I read my letter and Iwas like, Holy Shit, I got a shot here. Like I didn'tknow I was this good. I didn't know the letter wasn't a big deal. It was a bigger deal probably back then. Nowadays it's like, youknow, any little thing is like you know you you're a hall of Famerif you get recruited at all nowadays with these kids. But I was excited. It kind of empowered me and and I thought, okay, I gota shot at this thing and and Virginia gave me my first offer, butI kind of made up my mind that I wanted to stay home. Andwhen Virginia offered me my junior year, it was Virginia, UNC are,Virginia Tech. In my head, Florida...

...state. I used to love watchingthem on TV, but they just didn't didn't look like I'd fit scheme wisethere, and I was getting told I wasn't athletic enough. So I choseVirginia and I'l grow gave me my first offer and and I just took itbecause part of it as I didn't understand the whole process and part of itwas like this is where I want to go. Why go through the processright? This is home for me and this is what I want and andI don't regret it. You know, things worked out because your did yourmom save all your clippings and everything. Yeah, I got a good bitof stuff. She's even doing it now. Like I walked in the House andI saw like she's about. There's a newspaper of me, like inthe local newspaper, about retirement like this. That the third sit now. ButI was like, you know, back when she was doing it.I kind of understood it, but I definitely understand it now. It's funnybecause my dad has all his stuff and it's not he pulled it out andshows shows me as clippings, but like it's good that he hasn't you know. It's one of those things. It's not like you parayed them around,but it's good you have them. And the one thing I'm excited about keepingafter football is all those jerseys I got to trade with guys and you know, the newspaper articles. That's cool, but that's that's a sign of mediarespect, which that's one thing, but you know, respect from your peers. That's that's the the kind of stuff that I'm definitely going to cherish.How many jerseys do you have? Man? I probably have over twenty. Imean I probably got twenty five of them. WHO's your favorite? Whichone, like do you cherish the most? Man, you know, my lastcouple years, when I realized it that I was maybe not trying toplay a lot longer, I was trading a lot and you know, myfirst favorite one that I got in St Louis was Justin Smith. That wasin probably two thousand and eleven or two thousand and twelve and then lately Ireally love I got a Marshawn Lynch Jersey. I got my beast mode after weplayed them in Philly and like a ten degree night and he was justrunning hard as shit. Still we won like thirteen seven. I GOT HISJERSEY. I got, you know, my Michael Bennett. I've got myfletcher cocks, like my Aaron Donald. I got some of the Best RobertQuinn, William Hays, some of the best stee Lineman I play with.But you know, lately I think a marshawn Lynch was a real cool Jerseyto have in the Justin Smith. Early on, Chris, we went throughkind of your youth a little bit, going on to college. Now,your first years at a college. Obviously it's kind of home for you.But well, those that first season a football what did you learn from thatfirst season of football at UVA? Well, at U Vah learned about I wasnever arrogant at all. But but you know, college is going tohumble you. You know, if you have any humbling to be done,you know college football is going to do it. I don't know about nowadays. I don't know what it's like now, but going to play for how grow? Who falls from that parcels Bella check tree, that whole thing,learning the three four, playing for eye and, you know, inside eyeof the tackle rather than rushing the edge. Here I was in high school justgetting ready to start learning how to really be technical as a pass wrestler. In High School you're getting by it on athleticism and hard work. Youknow, when you get to college you're honing your craft a little bit andswitching positions to me was like it was crazy and my first two years Idon't think anybody else saw it saw me as struggling, but I thought Iwas struggling because I was out of scheme and I was learning a new thingand frankly, it was just really hard. And Yeah, I almost transferred mysophomore year, I think it was. I I looked at some other schoolsand and I was on the cusp of kind of but I didn't havethe balls to do to do it. Honestly, it was just like inmy heart of hearts I wanted to do it, but I was like yeah, it seemed disloyal. I just didn't want to do it and it wasall scheme driven for me. It was like, you know, it's thisplaying, you know, read technique inside eye of the tackle. It's stunningmy development and honestly, I'm not having fun. And and I was reallyglad I stuck it out because my junior year spring game I came out andkind of set it on fire a little...

...bit and people were like, Damn, Dude, you got a lot better and had a bunch of sacks andand I started to feel good and and and and just from there it wasI felt a lot better about in me and coach grow became like he reallyleaned on me as a leader, and that kind of being on the cuspof quitting or doing something else taught me a lot, because I didn't havethat in high school. I mean that was the adversity. I didn't haveit. Chris, how would you describe Game Day in the ACC we hearabout the SEC at, not them, but what was ACC football like?You could hear a stray fan here there. You know, you'd watch a DukeUNC game. You Watch Virginia play. I mean we listen at Virginia.We had it rock and a Scott Stadum. We'd packing stadium full ofSixtyzero people in those years we had eight, nine, ten wins, whatever,you know. But it depended on the stadium. You know, VirginiaTech Lane Stadium as crazy as almost any SEC atmosphere. In my opinion,UNC's going to be more chill, dude, it's going to be way more chill. Duke. You had to walk like half a mile to get tothe stadium from your locker room. You know, before the renovation it wasn'tanything to speak of. Maryland was like a city, you know, atmosphere, which is a little different. Yeah, I mean it depended on the school. We had a couple outliers, like an FSU or a Virginia Techthat were like sec and then some. And then there's Clemson, which Inever played down at Death Valley. But most of the other schools are kindof you're going to at your noon games. You're sporadic attendance. Virginia that wehad in rock and pretty good, because you mentioned I'll grow is abig influence in your life. Who was a non football influence while you're incollege, other than other than alcohol, other than the bill, more goingto the build more on on Thursday nights for two dollar pictures. Man ActuallyI don't know. I was Tuesday, Tuesday to pictures, I would sayjust my not in football, I mean non coaches. I just spent allday in the foxhole man with my teammates. So my teammates for big influences onme. I mean they were, but I live with you know,having to live with different people. You know, you grew up your wholelife living with just your family, your mom cooking breakfast. You know,you you leave some laundry on the couch. It's not a big deal, right. Actually wasn't a big deal oncology either, because we were we wereslabs. But you know, living with different people from different cultures, youknow, having to go through adversity with your friends, holding each other accountable. That's a different accountability than a coach is. Having teammate or roommate,O brother kind of put you in Jackard. You do vice versa, and atthat that would that shade me a lot. Yeah, Hey, Iknow e gaming is big now. What was the game that you guys allplayed? If you had a bunch of roommates and teammates? There was somethingyou were playing back in college that you guys Callbab away from competed everything wedid. We play Xbox, it was like people were getting ready to fighteach other. If we played fighting night on on Xbox, like and youknock somebody out, it was like it was like we might be out inthe parking lot, you know, over right. We play, you know, NBA, K, we play all that stuff. We just did everythingtogether and that's what I think people miss about the game. Now, didyou meet your wife in College? Yeah, I met my wife in college.She she played Lacrosse at Uva and we dated on and off through thefirst couple of years. She's as stubborn as me, so we definitely,we definitely tested each other. And then did she ever play Edward Forty hands? She never played at were forty hands, but she could drink hewy light.So we had we had a listen, we had we had a good respectfor each other's schedules. You know, her going through, you know,college athletics and and me at the same time. So it worked outwell that way and I think that really helped us understand each other as wegot out of school and you know, the big sacrifice of, you know, moving to St Louis with no friends. They're nothing taken a job there andthen obviously working at burroughs, where you knew meg from Guss you know, coaching there. Great Lacrosse coach, really good with kids and built aLacrosse company from the ground up and want...

...to stay title at burrows and like. Listen, the only person that screwed that up was me. I meanyou know the fact that we didn't stay in SAT Louis for the offseason everyyear. We both wanted to get back Virginia some you know, kind ofgot away that stuff, and then then kids and moving to different teams.But listen, I'm pretty sure if she wanted to, you know, pickup the clipboard today, she could coach just about anywhere and and obviously,you know, helps to have somebody at this stage that you've known since college. Yeah, she's a she's definitely a wonderful coach. The girls absolutely lovedher. My daughter was a goalie for her and her experience were because shewon a national championship, but UV didn't she? Yep, not. Well, no, she was in the final four a few titles for she wouldget mad at me if I said you won the national championship right, becauseshe used to get they got in and a few times and I just remembershe'd complain about losing in the final four a couple of years and I'm like, Dude, at least you're in the final four, like we are strugglingto get to the mine key car carabowl here. But yeah, I meanthey got a great program and and they were, you know, really somesome cool girls man that she play with and I'm still keeps in touch witha lot of them. She's super competitive, right, very competitive, almost morecompetitive than me in a lot of ways because she competes at stupid stuffwhere I can kind of like I'm not that person that, like you hearabout certain athletes of like, you know, for playing they'll, you know,they'll they won't let kid win in like playing horse like. That's notme. My Wife. Yeah, she might beat our kid and horse.I mean she like listen, we used to like play tennis to mess around, like she's picking up tennis and I would just sky the ball in theair just to piss her off, like just kind of just sky and Iwouldn't because I can't hit it straight and it really threw her off and Iwas beating her in tennis and I'm not very good. I'm not claiming tobe good, but she would storm off the court like and we would bein an argument for a day because she was mad about tennis and she's justa competitive man. He just it's just kind of is what it is.Ever, play your mom and tennis now, because she'd actually beat me. Imean, and it's all about matchup because like me can my wife,can be my mom, my mom can be my wife, but I can'tbeat my mom, I don't think. I mean she's just more technical orMEG's like more rely on on athleticism and grit. But You could beat yourdad? Yeah, can probably beat my dad, but he's pretty good.My Dad's one of those guys that can pick up any sport and like justkind of like kind of my brother Kyle. We're like anything they touched his turnsto gold. Like my dad can pick up a golf club, hitit straight three hundred yards. You know, probably play badminton at an elite level. I like just anything he does and my brother's the same way me, I got to grind it out a little bit more. Chris, let'sgo through some of your pro career. Now you get drafted by the rams. We know the probably was really emotional for you, but you also knowyou're going to the rams. How do you feel about that? You putit right. I mean, like, listen, I never thought of gettingdrafted as an accomplishment. Maybe for me because my dad's done everything I've done, it kind of always kept me in a mind state of like, youhaven't accomplished anything, and so I think that was a blessing because I neededthat mindset when I got to St Louis. I needed to go in there witha clear head. And you know, I knew that. You know myjunior year I sent in my my my draft grade, and it cameback a low first round grade, high second and I was advised to leave, but I said, you know, I'd really like to stay. Ithink not only can I improve my draft stock, but I want to finishwith my teammates and in some ways it was the best decision I ever made. In some ways of the worst decision I ever made, because financially inthe old TBA, if you were a top five draft pick you're set,and so in a lot of ways that was great, and I did.I had a great senior year. I proved a lot of people wrong.I had fourteen sacks or whatever. You know, was up for a lotof words and my draft stock climbed and I knew I was going to bea five, top five pick. But what happens when your top five pickis you? You go into a bad team and the pressure is going tobe higher and you know for a pass rusher, the trade off to getpaid all that money is you're probably going to be on a team that doesn'thave a lot of leads and doesn't have a lot of pieces around you andpeople are going to want you to be a double digit guy every year andit's just not realistic. Early on,...

...depending on the guy, there's somelisten not. I always thought it myself as more hinder, not a generationaltalent type guy. Mean you you look at a guy like von Miller,I mean Von Milli, you put him anywhere, he's going to go getthirteen. You know I'm a guy that you know I'm going to be uparound that double digit number. But it's hard and it took two years,honestly, to learn from the three four back to the Fort Three. Italked about switching a three four in college. So switching to the Fort Three manwe were not very good. There wasn't a lot of time to gethome and there weren't a lot opportunities and honestly, I was just kind ofswimming. My first year ended up, you know, had a college firstyear. You know, I had four, five sacks, and then the secondyear there was a lot of adversity for me because you're expecting people totake that leap in the second year or third year. Usually with would passrushers, I always think third but nobody's going to wait that long when you'rea top five pick. Through eight games I had no sacks. And youknow what people start doing? They start using that B word and they youknow, it's four letters and and they say, you know, this guy'snot going to pan out, he's just kind of he's just going to beall right, but he's not a man like I was close to kind ofnot giving up, but I was like, well, maybe I am, likemaybe I'm not that good. And then the second half of the yearI had five, six sacks. I finished my second year, I think, with five and they all came in the second half. So an agame run with that, with those type of numbers, are good and thenin my third year really took a big lead. You know, was oneof the, you know, the best pressure guys in the League and had, you know, eight and a half and really on another bad team.So and then from there just kept, you know, through my prime thereand saying Louis, it kept building up and that eight and a half yearsaw a four year span. I had forty actually forty one, I think, so average in ten over for for four years was a great stretch forme. Sat Louis. We never got over the hump that. That tookme through the Steve SPAGNOL era, the Jym hazlet interim era, the Lenahanera, and then after spags was Jeff Fisher who gave me that big contractand and and made me enjoy football again, honestly, because he was such afun coach to play for. Brought in like the right type of guys. We just couldn't get it right offensively and as you know, if yougot a franchise quarterback he can't can't keep healthy, can't keep him up right. You know, Sam blew is knee out a couple times that year.He blew his knee out against Cleveland in the preseason. I think that yearwe had a chance to be a ten win team and get in the playoffs. Will tell us about the transition to New England. Phone rings and it'sBrendan Daily. He used to he used to coach me, and say Louis, and he's like, you know, you just think about New England.I'm like yeah, I'll think about he's like all right, we'll just staytuned. So I'm in the grocery store picking up groceries and all of asudden phone rings and I'm like Hello. It's like hello, Chris. I'mlike yeah, I'm like WHO's this? Like it's Bill Belichick, and I'mlike Oh yes, sir, let me get to the front of the grocerystore where there's perception, sir. So I get to the front and,you know, I'm kind of like yeah, I'm interested in coming up for visitingwhatever, and I'm he's like, listen, I don't have a rolefor you. I don't know what that is schematically, because obviously they runa different scheme. He's like, but I feel like if we can workthis out, this is something that we don't need to specify what you're goingto be doing or how much like we'll find something. I was like,all right, cool, so I go up and visit and and then sowho called you from Philly? I call Philly. I had a buddy thatworked there and I was like, you know what, like, I'd liketo play there if you guys be interested in my buddy, Ian Cunningham,brought it to Howe Roseman, who I'm certain didn't think much of me,you know, and they kind of a bide does now that minimum kind ofdeal under the like, under the guys of Hey, we don't have muchmoney, but in a year I promised will do right by you if youif you play well and sign there. Don't think they, I really don'tthink they had a lot of respect for me as an organization when I signedthere, and that's fine, you know. I think they thought I was outof gas, right, but that I motivated me and you know,I end up being great. Yeah, and being a great two years.and honestly, if I had never played in Philly, I don't think mycareer would feel as satisfied as if I walked off the field in Houston forSuper Bowl the fifty. Did you know...

...that Aaron Donald was going to beas good as he is. Yeah, yeah, I would like to creditmyself with being the first person to know he was going to be amazing,and if you ask him he'll tell you. I mean, like when he gotSt Louis, it was very clear he was going to be special.I think we used to joke rookie, his rookie camp that he was goingto be in the hall of fame, but I kind of wasn't joking.And I've never seen anybody work so hard, who had so much talent and playso violent and m play with such tenacity. You know, this guywould would fight you on the field drop of a hat and and I respectthat about him, and out works everybody. I would be the last person inthe film room, usually at the end of camp, and I wouldgo in there and watch tape once everybody was at home, and I startedgoing in there and opening the door and turn the lights on to find mypen or my notebook, and he was in there every night. Well,Hey, Chris, we we in Pittsburgh. Like to think that's the Pittsburgh inhim. All you just yeah, well, I do. I willsay this. I talked to a lot of guys about this. You know, from a Vante Maddox to, you know, Aaron, to any ofthe guys I play with from Pitt honestly, in their own ways, they justhave a great edge to him, a good confidence, a good edge, very competent right off the bat, pro ready, hard working and notto recruit rout for pit, but I mean these guys are consistently great pros. Well, it's funny because Gust and I were just talking about this.My brother in law played defensive end of pit in the midhind he's they wereterrible teams, but they had a disproportional amount of guys that ended up makingthe league. Yeah, not necessarily stars, but they a lot of guys from, you know, one in ten teams or whatever ended up playing NFLfor a few years. You know, it's just it's unusual amount for ateam that bad. Yeah, I don't know what it is, but there'scertainly a toughness in the water up there with with y'all of teams, youknow, whether they're pro sports teams, are obviously college teams. So andand for Ade, being a Pittsburgh Guy, you know, grew up there too. He's very proud of it and and I think that's pretty cool.Man, he's a guy that doesn't forget where he comes from and and youknow, he's a guy that you know he's the best football player in theworld, my opinion. What's so? You've been through all this. Yougo to Philly, you win a championship, New England, win a championship badyears in in St Louis. But there's something it always kind of Ifelt like you brought to every city, is is your willingness to do charityand to put yourself out there for the for the betterment of people and thecommunity. So where did that come from? We're you know, because you're foundation, Chris, Chris Long, foundation, water boys dot org, so manythings. Yeah, for me it has to do with I don't likewasting time and I'm constantly on the move. I feel like I'm busier now inretirement than I was when I play. But I'm not going to let myselfnot be busy and not be productive and listen to the thing about footballis, and I'll learn this as you can work as hard as you want. You know hard work pays off in the pros or in life. Idon't think that's necessarily true. I think hard work gives you a chance andyou know, I saw a lot of players that work their ats off foryears and didn't get any payoff. A guy like James Hall who never gotto, you know, be on a winning team, who was a mentorof mine, you know, guys like that. So I never on thefield you can prepare your ass off, you have a bad game, youcould work hard as a team, you could still suck. If you havethe means and you have the platform off the field, your work is goingto turn into productivity one way or another. What you put into it, youget out of it, and so I think that's a beautiful thing aboutthe work we can do as players is, you know, we walk off thefield where it's really hard to get what you get out what you putin. That's not a guarantee, and you walk into our communities that supportus and if you put in the work, you're going to get something out ofit. I'm not saying you you're going to get productivity out of itthat's going to better the community and I just think for me, like mymom, who's on the board of the boys and Girls Club and my dadwas a boys and Girls Club kid didn't have what I have growing up andhe gave me that through football. You know, I can't forget. Youknow what that was for my that a generation ago. And I don't wantto act like I don't care about people...

...that don't live like me. SoI just love people. I love our fans, I love the community weplayed in and so for me we've been given a lot. It's it'd bea waste of a career not to get back. I mean, I thinkit's fair to say ten years from now Chris could be remembered as much forhis off the field generosity and effort as he was on the field. Well, unfortunately, I think it's already happened now, Chris, I think oneof the best things we had our first show that we did was with RobertoClemeni Jr, and so Roberto Clemeni junior talked about how he lost his identitybecause when people met him they thought they were meeting his dad, and sohe really had a hard time finding himself. And I was just telling Dave andand and my wife the other day that what you've done that is soremarkable is that you've made a name for yourself a lot of people who wouldhave the dad how he long would say, oh, your how he longs,kid, you know, but now it's all your Chris all, andyour dad was a good football player and you've done an excellent job of makinga name for yourself, not only on the field but off the field.I think that's so powerful and it speaks to who you are and not tokind of what your name is. Yeah, well, I appreciate it. Iwant to do all this stuff. Like, listen, we donated ore, I donated my salary. That blew up, but the reason we didit was to engage fans. I I get a little uncomfortable with, youknow, some of the attention we get for what we do as a foundation, because this is the bare minimum. I mean like, to me,this is this is what you do if you're a pro athlete. Somehow youdo something to help people. Yeah, and I think it's so important whatyou're doing. I know you talked about getting attention, but that's what it'sall about being a pro football players, is having that platform, grabbing thatattention so that you can create whatever it is you need, whether it's youraising funds or or bringing attention to somewhere in Africa that that needs a wellbecause people don't have water and and they're not going to live if they don'tand it's so important. Actually, yeah, I mean and and that a lotof that just stems from just opening your horizons and being like, youknow, I want to see outside my own bubble, and that's what's that'swhat made me go to Tanzania the first time and I went with James Hall, we talked about earlier. I talked to him into climbing Kilimanjaro with meand, you know, kind of from there I kind of fell in lovewith the place and and it was at that same time I was trying tostart my foundation and I said, Hey, here's a real efficient way to changethe world through clean water. And Sixty one wells later, I thinkwe've served two hundred twenty five thou people in East Africa. We're moving intoKenya, we're moving into some domestic projects. We are transitioning into and the NBA. We've already transitioned into that. Malcolm Brogden has started his version waterboys called hoops to Oh. So we're moving along and I think it allstarts by just opening your horizons and saying, Hey, I want to do morethan just be a football player. If you let football define you,that's all you're going to be. Chris, we do this this is our lastepisode, our last part of the show. It's called no huddle.We pepper you with a bunch of questions. Just give us your answers as quickas you can and if you're too slow, with throw a flag atwhen. We added it and it's a lot of fun. So Dave usuallystarts with the questions. Hey, Chris, if you could trade places with anyonein the world for one day, who would that be? Kawhi Leonard. That's a good one. My Man, my man is a beast on thebasketball court. Yeah, Dude, he lives in Toronto. Like you'regood. You'd like that, Chris. Who is the biggest non sports celebrityin your phone? Probably Jeff Amen. I mean, like, he's nota big celebrity, but he's my favorite non's I've got some, I've gotsome cool ones, but he's Bass Guitar for Pearl Jam. Oh, yeah, that'd be good one. I know you're you're a huge music guy andyou go to bonner whoever. You Right. Yeah, but maybe not this year. Said, oh my breaking tradition. Now life's got in the way.What's the last concert you've been too? WHO The less show I've been to? That's that's going to be. I'll tell you. The next oneI'm going to probably is my morning decadive red rocks in August. Who's yourfavorite person you follow on twitter? Man, Pft commenter, probably. I likeRob Delaney a lot. You know,...

I need a little I need alittle laughs on twitter. I mean nowadays, I mean so I prefera funny follow. So Dave and I are favorite is the blocker charge.You follow that one. I like that. I like that. Yeah, didyou see where the lady was spinning under the helicopter? Unbelievable. Igo my mom that last night. I was hard about to laugh because she'sokay, the chairlift one yesterday was unbelieving. I did see that. Was Airlift out of control. That's the one. That's the one. Isaw that one day he's excited about. Yeah, that was yeah, thatwas unbelieved. There's people at the beginning getting flung off and then everyone justbailing out as watch that one too. Okay, yeah, I saw thatone too. Yeah, Huh. All right. So what's the most memorablesporting event you've ever been to that you didn't play in? Virginia Basketball NationalChampionship this year. Hmm Oh, yeah, you were loving it, weren't you? That's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Me and my buddies,we went, Heath Miller Pittsburgh. We went and me and heath got onsports straight on the cover we were in the background cheer and actually I thinkhe's face is kind of blocked, but that building has been good to me. You know, Virginia Basketball and we beat the Patriots in that building withthe Eagles Nice. Yeah, that's that's really good. You have a petpeeve? Yeah, I have a ton of pet peeves. I don't likeNosey people. I don't like people that don't wave when they walk across thecrosswalk. I don't like when waiters come and drop your bill off, andI don't like that either. Time to put the card in there. Idon't like when people will call and they don't say who it is. Idon't like repeat calls. I got a ton of a man like. SoI know you're a big sports nut. What's your favorite MLB team? SoI guess it's the Phillies by default. Up All right, that that's beenthat's the least of the League's that I'm interested in, but I'm going toadopt a phillies. All right, favorite NBA team. Nick's Day time next. Yeah, it's the longest I've been a fan of anything. How abouthockey? The Blues, so I picked up in St Louis. So it'sa really good time to be a blues fan. What who's your favorite Golfer? My Favorite Golfer, you know, I I'm trying to get into it. I got to take some lessons and you know, I'm kind of likeanybody else. I like to see Tiger do well because it's obviously good forthe sport. But bubble, bubble Watson seems cool. Is He cool guyyou think? I think Bubba seems pretty cool. I think he might beable to out drink you if you did, Edward, forty hands. Was BUBBAWatson a listener? Might be that? I know I've been known lately forsome other comments, but but I can still drink just about any boyown table, including you, Gussie. All right. So last one collegebaseball or college softball. It's college softball. So I just I was just talkingabout this. My Dad and I were sitting there watching it the othernight and we're just like WHOA. I mean like where has this sport been? It's obviously been there, but like where has it been in my sportsfandom? Because it is fast paced, it's exciting. You got home runson the regular. These girl rol like we make your three rows. Howyou know the pitching? How do you control that ball? How do yousee that ball that fast? I mean the other night, I mean theydown to their last strike. Oklahoma forces bottom of the seventh and they losein the bottom of seventh. But I mean it was just unbelievable. Everytime you turn it on a Strama. No, Chris, I tried sellinggusts on women softball all the time. I went to university Arens Dona.So's some war blood of college softball. Yeah, but I tell them aboutthe reaction time from picture to batter. It's faster than Major League Baseball.Oh yeah, it's insane. And then the reaction time of turning, youknow, and an out. I mean you know, groundball at a second. There's it's never a sure thing. I mean these girls are really scootingdown a line and and the balls tough and and listen, I mean thefences in a little bit and and and these girls are are just hammering theball out of the park and it's awesome. Hey, we appreciate you coming on. We're going to do some promos and I'll let you know when you'regoing to be on, when you're going to air, and hopefully that youreshare us on social media and and give a shout out the huddle up withgusts and and I'll let you know I've prever Hav me on. I'll seeup in Pittsburgh sometime.

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