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Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

Episode · 2 years ago

Chris Gronkowski

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The founder of Ice Shaker, a high quality, stainless steel, shaker bottle. He appeared on Shark Tank and garnered an investment from Mark Cuban and guest host Alex Rodriguez. Yes, he has a brother named “Rob”, joining the Huddle is Chris Gronkowski. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What's up Dave, hey gus dave, we all you know an our fans out thereiave heard. Sometimes you struggle with trying to come up with the rightwords. So what if you were to go in front of the sharks onShark Tank? What do you think that would be like for you? Well from what I heard about theprocess? It's way more drawn out ind much more frightening than even what itseems like on TV, because you stand there. I guess for like fifteen minutesand they kind of just like Hie you up. So I don't know. I have a hard timejust speaking in studio with just you and Cam, and it's dark and there's noone watching. So I can't imagine I couldn't imagine like Mark Huban SaneDave tell me about your workforce. You know.When did you create this? What is it you know and I CCAN imagine being ableto reply coherently, yeah? I just have a dark time. Somet, U be like Clinhurdle! Just got fired yeah! I can just rattle of sports staffs that aren'tinconsequential, but we have a guest who's going to join us in the huddle.Who actually did that with his brothers in front of those sharks and actually in one and one struck a deal struck adeal not just like your average deal, but with Mark Cuban and aex Rodrigez,who, as a guest host that week against judge right and just just another greatstory in the lineup of guests that we've had. We all know him from his company being a chart tankcreating the ice Shaker. His reasoning for doing it at is very powerfulbecause him and his brothers t e all love towork out. Yes, it's obvious if you've ever seen a ficture right right andthen he has a super famous brother who's played in one of the greatest,far anchises ever in the NFL. Yes and just retired. Last year, Wels Dad's hada very successful business in the world of weightlifting andhealth. For, like thirty years right, yeah an and the unchpreneurial stuffwas there the athletic stuff was there they've been doing that and then hiswife? She has been Entrepreneura two sincehe's left you of a your old Om, mater and and also played in the NFL yeah,while he's playing NFL. She had it successful online business, yes andthen starting ice Shaker and those two working together. I mean just enentrepreneural spirit: They have the transitions. They've made the passionthat he's lived, his life to go and try and play in th NFL and then taking thatonto what it means to be an entrepreneur yeah. No, it's and it'sgreat product. It's not something hoky that people are buying it because they mightrecognize them from tnflor its family. It's a nice fa, I mean Mark Cuban and arod aren't jumping on board unless they see some benefit to it, and now he'spartnering with other companies to put their logos on, I mean he's crazy, busy,yeah great family. You may know the last name, but we wantyou to find out more about Chris Gronkowski who's going to be joining usin a huddle right now. Jame. Today we got ta fellow youavailom for you. You know er Dow yeah, you guys aregoing to bear down. Tonag right go baby, and so we got Chris Gn Cawsky with uson one of the mean his family could bemore famous yeahwere, athletic wo're, an athletic or muscular or muscular orthere's a there's, a lot of things, youre really good. At Flip Cup I meanthe yeah so, but welcome in day welcome into the hottle Cris Cron Cowsky wither today, Chris Grep glad to have you onhey thanks. So much thanks for having me I'm excited to be here. I don'talways get to hang out with other UFALUM, so I'm eay excited about thison hey in Pittsburgh. I think there's about four of us. So it's it's alwaysnice to talk to SOM men yeah. I don't know how many you av a basketball games.I got to watch with Dave, but you know I don't know it just it's hard to findyou ava in Pittsburgh E. It's tough, actually being a fan in Pittsburgh, oreven a Texas, because at least with football the Games are on it's so late.I mean they startd at nine. Thirty, I watched the first quarter and I'msleeping that's ten. Thirty starts here for most of them, it's Ya. Sometimesthis games, it's like quarter to two anm still like especially IFYOR,watching games earlier in the day it ai Ot's a long day, yeah, especially I, how the teams doing I'mnot really sure, because I don't usually watch the full game sonea theproducts, not that good. Unfortunately, so I'm watching we, he in your fingers,is going to get better a you get...

...quateren'tknowiave to stay up, iandwatch, I guess so so. Chris one of the question one day yeahd one of thequestions we always start with is we kind of have an Understandif yourfamily, but we really want to hear it from Youwas. What that spark was. Whendid you fall in love with with sports? Was At your dad? I mean you guys justhad an automatically Yo had a team automatically, but what was that foryou? What's your earliest members of that man really growing up up? We playedevery sport? Is Memory was teap ball for surr yougrew up, hitting jacking is really Wer, od competitive. So you always had to bethe guy that laid the big hit. So hockey was our first love growing up inbuffalo and really everything every day was a sport,for us was a game for us. We competed in every single thing that we did bythe end of the day. You know there was always a fight. If you want you five,if you lost you fought, but it was anything from just little mini stakes,N in the basement, or going in the backyard and playing whiffleball.Everything turned into this huge competition and we weren't allowed tostay inside. We weren't allowed to sit there and watch TV or play video gamesbecause our parents just couldn't handle it, but like get outside, getthat energy out, you guys were not sitting in this house, so everything wedid was just always a competition. It was always some kind of athletic eventthat we were doing. I mean you guys had to be a nightmare in the neighborhoodwhen you guys go out and looking for whatever you're going to play, theneighbors hould have been like. Oh Man, we were. We were the house thateveryone came to as well so five boys, plus at least one friend of all thebars always over at a time. So there was always a game to be played and wealways competing against. You know the older brother or the older brothersFrands, or we just straight ut, fighting with them, so it was alwayssuper competitive and I think that's really. What bred US know to beathletes was just this constant, comme petition all the time every single day,if you could take one thing that you learned from that experience, whatwould it be man from growing up like that man? It's just to always try to beat the best you can,because I mean it was kind of like you were. You were always trying to beatyour older brother you're, always trying to show off always trying to bebetter than them, and it just it just bred this competition that you can't doany other way. So you really you can't you just automatically do it. You can'treally teach yourself it. It's just something that you it's kind of justbred into you and at such an early age it just ingranes into your mind thatthere's no other way to do it. You're going to go all out you're going to gomax out every single time, because you want to win every time and really like it started way back foryou guys. I Know Your Dad Played College Football, but you'R wasn't yourgreat grandfather in the Olympics yeah. He was a cycolistor or somethingcrazy like that, so it really that wasn't really somethingthat we even knew about, though, and really even my dad's football career.We really didn't know about that. Football really was never pushed uponus. Our oldest brother Gordy never even played football. So my dad, he said youknow if you guys want to play Yocan play, he never really pushed us into itand we never even played until high school. So what was your firstorganized event? Sport that you guys played would have been baseball. Thefirst was yeah baseball and then hockey you guys when you went to an organizedevent where you guys, like really bored, because it's like you got Ta, standthere and wait and there's rules and there's coaches and there's Zumpiresand raps whe were you guys are just going the backyard get it all out. YeahI mean hockey was a little bit different, so it was kind of like that.Sport, where you just went out there and use did whatever. So that was cool,but baseball was definitely. It was boring at first at least, were you know,tball and all that so a little boring for us, and then we were just kind ofso much further along than everyone else, because we were competing againstKno, our older brothers or Oler brother's friends, and so our athleticlevel, which is so much higher than everyone else, is at that point already yeah. So that had to be a bigdifference for you guys, like all of a sudden you're when you're competing atyour owner brothers and everybody else, and you have to go, compete againstkids, your own age. It's almost like you got to slow down, take a you, know,step back and then and progress in a different kind of new way. Yeah for us. We actually most of thetime we were playing with in higher levels or we were Youno my dad and wastrying to get us on our older brothers teams. So a lot of times we were stillplaying with older kids. Even up until you know, tweve years old, did you playhockey through high school? No, we all we all kind of for us. Itwas a transition in high school from hockey to football. If you playedhockey, you pretty much only played hockey in Buffalo, it was kind of ayear round. Sport you're playing travel, the high school coach; they want statesevery year and just kind of like. If you don't play hockey, you know you'renot going to be on the tea or, if you don't play hockey your roud you're notgoing to be on the team. So at that point it was our love for every sportand also just or football that kind of pushed us away from hockey. o made uschoose choose between the two. So in...

Buffalo who was your? who was thatplayer for the bills that you guys all looked up to you gut as had youhad tohave a favorite ban yeah my dad went to every super bowl,so I went to Al All four games and he'd Hangd, the you know the sea cushions upin his office and he was super proud of the bill. So when Rab went to thePatriotts is kind of a weird day for him, but no we cheered for all of them.I mean Jim Calley was the man Eric Molds, I mean we ere. We were all in onthe bills growing up ten biggest Porterman, so it was kind ofit's kind of crazy when everything kind of went to a different way. When, whenthe FL came around Weyyou got John fenut too, I think he was in four SuperBowls Ho Valm Allson there you go hapkle for the okay, Yeah Yeah Y. mystete fact II't even know these yeah e was my high school to yea. Well also, my cousin Mitch played forthe bills and knows he went to three of the super bowls. He was an Offe ADlinement for the bills at that time. So your dad might remember him he's probblyeah to too old for you, but he cind, Aon, right yeah e Caed, all toublecouple touchdowns for the Bildi yeah, so he was heas a Psu Penn state alum,but you know he was a. You know it's funny when I think about havingrelatives in the NFL. He was so much older than me that Idid't really knowh M that well, but you guys are all so close together. Thathad to be such a great experience where you could call somebody a and talkabout that situation, which it probably had to be a really neat experience foryou yeah absolutely, especially when myyounger brother Glen comes in the League and he's playing the sameposition as me. So it's you know one of those calls where it's hey. I know whatdo I need to do? Make this team and what you do you know? How do you feelout this kind of Yo know this type of playe or this kind of play, and so itskind of cool being able to kind of coach him after the fact that ioreadywent through it myself other than that other than that I just playing againstmy brothers were cool too. I got to play against rob when I was with thebroncos hat to play against him in Jules dadium and we're just talkingtrash the whole time so cool experience when I'm running by the sideline andhe's yelling out there. You know forty nine sucks and whatever, but just coolto go an Sam and its teamates and just talk Trashi and one of the mostexciting games that I've played in. I could imagine so if we go back to yourhigh school experience Id you have a coach that you really look back to andkind of shape. Hel You thought about the game or really drove some goodfundamentals into you. Yeah. Absolutely all ofheur coacheswere great. I think what helped us the most at ayoung level was actually having a speed coach. We had a speed coach come inhe's a former receiver. He played for Theobay with the dopfins, but came inand really just worked on our speed, and it's something that I recommend totwo other kids in high school, because it took us to a level that no one elsewas at. We Start This guy started coaching us for onle and by the nextyear he had hundreds of kids out there, because the speed improvement wasdrastic. I mean you o you'v Gearn, how to run. You got explosive movements, alot of thejoti stuff and I think that's what really took us to the next levelbecause re you go to these combines and you run a Fiv bow because you don'tknow proper form or you don't know how to run or just a good start in a forty.You know it takes you immediately out of a division on scholarship. So justby having this guy come in, teach us the right form. We got a lot faster,bur our form and also our forty technique. Just got so much better thatwe are able to go to those camps and actually shine. Do you think that'smore important than just running track in the spring. Am Is it's hard for me to say, because we never ran track so we weren'tattrack and field family. We were playing other sports at that time, soeither either baseball or basketball. So we never ran track and I mean I'm sure track helps a lot, butfor guys that don't run track, definitely great option. We ere doingthes speed camp in the summer, so during the offtime, this is when wewere all SOM, ere, long learning, learning how to run faster and it wishbetter for m. So what were some of the tecs, an techniques that you guys woulduseye? did he use bands, or was it just tod wuld Y video? You guys? How wouldhe really give you technique, so you could have better form and running yeah.All that arm swings. Just you know the your tenyard starts your proper formcoming out of the forty yard dash and then just a ton of bagility drills. Somatters all those movements that you're going to see anyways at the next level,so a whole bunch of ladders and jumps and calsedic stuff like that, and thenjust running a lot. So we were running to or throwing up a lot of times. Youknow hundred yard dashes an even four hundred, sometimes, but just just a tonof running and with with perfect form, was kind of the goal, and over onesummer you drastically get so much...

...better and it was, you could see it and it's crazy, because our oldest brotherGordy came back from college. He was one of the slowest runners, his wholeright he's running over a Fiveoh and he was clocking in the fastest out of allof us after one year tor one summer and he was like man, I should have playedfootball. Anhe never did and hew's always a slow kind of clumsy guy and itjust drastically helped him hat. What age were you when you started workingwith that coach? I wasn't. I was. I think I was afreshman when h when we brought him in my older brother, Gordy had alreadyleft for College Dan was Bros Rounda, a senior in highschool, and then rob was still in middle school, so, like college recruiters areprobably almost like, there's, probably a period of time where it was on astaple at your house. There was always someone you know talking to you guys aboutgoing to the next level, and when did that start for you Oman that never started for me? No, there wasn't many recruiters cominginto Buffalo. You know they were coming in to see rob the rest of us allstruggled to get out of Buffalo. It wasn't somewhere. They were pullingtalent out of we ere lucky to have one guy go to vision, one out of the wholearea. N New York itself is a very small percentage for, especially for how manypeople are in New York that actually get d one scholarship. So it was atough area to get out of. We had to go to a lot of the camps. We had to do alot of visits. We were calling. Everyone were writing letters. We'redoing everything so for Dan Dan was able to get he'sonly had a couple offers, you kN huge Kitis, a monster in in high school, andhe ended up getting a done offer from Maryland. But one of few I came nextand really it was the University of Buffalo for me and some some division,one oubla and I was actually committed to go to University of Penn. So I wasgoing to go. Ivy League and last minute got a scholarship offo from Maryland.Just because dam was doing so well. They lost a bunch of kids, academicprobation and they saw my grades and my grades were actually what really got met scholarship, so thet were talked to the coaches last minute. They offeredme the scholarship and I ended up taking you leaving pen or my commitmentto University of Penn and going to Maryland on a full scholarship. Whatwas your experience at pen like you? Were there two years or so I never actually went to pen I'msusated there I Maryland Imarlyn Eah wewent there, so two seasons, redshirted, and then I played mostly just special teams and goal line as a fullback, but it was a tough place to play. The coach was a you, hard, nose, coachand it was almost like they never wanted methere. They offered me that last Mat I never talked to the coach, and then wehad you knowl the spring beatings where my brother rob came in and theybasically said and told Rob Than my dad that I sucked so at that point it waslike hey man, you know, I'm I'm grinding Houseis, the strongest in thatStrength Index on the whole team. I have a four point. Oh I'm playing I'mdoing everything I can and this guy's just tearing me apart. So it was one ofthose moments where I just said Hey. I want to go somewhere else, I'm going toplay somewhere else, so I actually left went to Arizona and at that time robwas still looking for a school to go to, and so we kind of paired it togetherand went together to Arizona. Oh Nice, that's that's! Okay. I was going to askyou how you got to Arizona, because that's a long way from Buffalo, it sure is yeah. We got there. Let'ssee good family friend, that was in the business with my dad selling fitnessequipment. My Dad's been in the retail fin equipment and commercial for overthirty years, so had a good friend that was in the same business as him thatwas selling in Arizona and he was e UA alone. So he pushed the school superhard sunny, dice came in, came to our house and was just like hey. We threwthe ball eighty times to the tight end last year. So if you want to come in,you want to play early and you want to cut to catch a bunch of passes. Youknow this is school to come to. You know you're going to be a big fish anda small pond you're going to play right away and and we're going to feature youso between the two and then going there and then driving a golf card around andGointo Pool Party was all it really took. Well,I would imagine there were some good sites at the Pool Party Yeah SarosPretty. Ah It was incredible actually coming fromNew York and going there and they were like throwing keggers. They were justrecruiting kids to live there and they this stopped before the time we left,but yeah like wet tshirt contest kegs everything they were bining. I, likeminor celebrities, just to get kids to come out and then also stay there atthose apartment complexes. So we went to one of those parties rolled up on agolf card were like this is amazing and that was kind of it. That's how weended up there. How did you like stoops as a coach? He was good he's, mostly just adefensive coach yeah, so Itas crazy. As you saw him during games, he really washe's pretty talm during practicand. He really only dealt with the defense, soI almost never. I mean it wasn't like you screaming at the offense, oranything like that. If we did something good, he was yon at the defense. I waspretty awwesome did't. You play a little line backer though, or no when Ifirst got there yeah,...

I had to sit out of year. So when Icame there, I had to sit out f a year. I was playing Linebackora scout teamline back or something like that, and I also tried off Wot the baseball teamand was on the baseball team for a year. No, what position were you in baseball?I was just playing left field yeah. I was power. hitter coming out really had todecide between baseball and football and wanted to try it. While I sat out for ayear, but once you STOPP playing, it goes away. Quick and Arizona was numberone on the nation that year. So I just kind of rt rode the bench and realizethat sixty game seasons pretty long and had to make decision between the two.So I was doing both and it was killing me. I was losing a bunch of weight asdoing both workous as son, double headers on the weekend and thenpracticing for football week and just said man. This is it's too much. I gotto focus on one, so I stopped with baseball after that year and went tofootball on me, yeah that had to be that Ou to be difficult, I mean justplaying football. Lon is a lot of work. I couldn't imagine doing both of thoseand trying to keep your academics op. That was brutal, hatwas the laghtest Iever weighed. I wait in. I lost like twenty to thirty pounds just because Iwas net ever I was I was so busy. I was always doing something there making medo both workouts and both practices and that and ow going straight to school,and I remember I waihed in at two ten and I left Maryland a at O and fortyand I was like man. This is this is crazy and it wasn't like I wasn'teating. I was waseeing everything iside I just there was no time to eat her orjust doing fot too much activity so really just had to make a choice. Atthat point, and I did and switched over to football full time yeah, you reallyneeded an ice Shaker back then didn't you yeah yeah yeah, an Wel. It come Inanwho would a kin runhanmanhundred ten degrees out in the middle of the day,running stadium, so I could have used it. There's pool parties too. You knowhat the apartmentcomplexes parties, yeah pretty good, ever never know.What's in it, man, oay, Sayse, cold all day, absolutely so. You're you're in Arizonayou're getting your Indo your senior year. What are your expectations goingon after your senior year like? What are you thinking at that point? Yeah Iwent there. I was pretty much told if, if I could at least participate orplaye special teams, they put me on scholarship. So I did get my academics or I got my. Igot my full scholarship back after the first half semet or first semester and my junior year I started playing so Istarted as a full back and they really told me when I went through that thefull back plays about ten snaps AF game. So first game I played about ten snaps.I did really good second game. I played about twenty third game. I was playingabout thirty to forty snaps, a game playing all the special teams as well.So my junor year was kind of the time where it went from. You know you havezero chance. I never thought I'd go to the next level. You know I was kind ofjust right in the wave. I was trying to get the best degree. I can. I got acounting degree that I'll never usein my life but whic Jus, trying to e. We all have theihn wast trying t to do the best. I coul with what I got and my junior year was really when peoplestarted coming in and saying: Hey you, you have a chance at the next level andI'm like no I'. Looking at my brother, not me like no, like, like the Jezz,came in they're looking for fullback, and they were asking me u about you. Sothat's kind of the only the first time I was like okay, so there's actuallysomething here. So at that point going in my senior year I did get hurt and wealso lost rob that year. So it was it was. It was tough because I pulled myHami the first week and college is a whole different story.Where you know I hade one. They won't give me any practice off at first andthen my whole leg, bled out was black and blue and they gave me one daypractice off. So at that point you know baty did nothing. I really playedthrough a whole senior year where I could never really run full speed and Iwas getting yelled at and they're like well Ou. Why are you trying and it waslike I'm trying and they pull up come from the year before and show me andthey're like well, look at you here, Lok you now and I'm like I told youover and over and over like I can't he. My hamstering is done like it's blownout, and so it was a brough year for me and it really took me after I was done.I took about three to four months before I actually got back up to fullspeed and really didn't get that right until about proday about a couple weeksbefore that was actually at full speed again, but hey that's what it counsilsyour prodate is to be its full speed and and all that training you've hadover all those all that experience you've had in those differenttransitions. I'm sure that made you ready to go and have a great day whenthe pros committed to really look at you. Oh absolutely a that's! That'sTyeir biggest day of your life and you train three four months and that's allyou do I mean we didn't do anything besides train and eat right. You wewere in Miami in a hotel and it was wake up. Super early train, oeat trainagain take quick nap turn again, and that was it. It was all rehaving aswell massageust everything you can so a lot of guys didn't take advantage ofthat time. A lot of guys that were there supposed to do, you know we'resupposed to be doing the same tlace as us, we're still out party and they'restill out. You Know Sabin at Magids. U...

They were skapping the workouts, butyou know it was a hundred percent. All in Yo rob was in the same boat as me atthat time, he's coming back off outback surgery, so we're fighting togetherevery single day to get healthy and get ready. For that day. How was your dadan influence? An all that he was? He was huge for all of us he's always been kind of to go to whenwe had any isseservour problems, and for me I mean he led the way for mebecause he was the one out there. You know contacting the schools trying toget me in. You know putting the letters out there making sure th t I was doingthe right things and then just at my Seyes and my height it was always hey.You have to get in that weight. Room Ou have to become more explosive. You haveto do this because you're not six six. You know you're not running a for fourTati like everyone else, so he was a huge influence on all and all of usjust to put us in the right way, put us the Olitus in the right step so other than that NFL wise. You kind ofyou sit back and, and you watch it happen at that point, so yea so tha sor.The draft is coming up. Do you are there expectations of being drafted?Did you have an idea of what might happen or is it kind of up in the AirYeah? For me, it was it'l, possibly very late. So like a fifth fifth roundpicker on, I was getting calls during it before it as well was told a couple times that I miceedrafted N, six or Sevenh round and then so breally. If that was the case in myAgandt said, you know it probably wouldn't have been the best case. If Igot stuck somewhere as a value pick for a six or seven frown pig it might itnot have been as great because you know they don't necessarily want you at thatpoint: they're just they're drafting for value. So by going UN drafted, I was able to pickwhere I wanted to go, and I think I was put into a lot better situation becauseof that you definitely would have to go to a place that you know, because notevery team use the foolback anymore, but you know you've had to go to a teamthat that would ouse a foolback. You know alot big part of the game had to go to a coach that you know, love that eye thatyou know th those different formations. I would use a fulback, and that was oneof my favorite offense, because I came in with North Turner. We used tofoolback all the time and I love that system. I love that system. Did you E ye? You end up going to Thocowboys right yeah, and I mean they had a a very great foolbackfor all those years, an Darrel Johnson and then you know, there's a big legacyto hold up to. When you went there absolutely yeas. I got put into aposition where the full back before me was great greatplayer, but he was in some mosseason trouble, so they weren't sure if theywould keep them around or not. So really, my agent did a great job ofscouting and put me in a spot that he knew. If I did well thet. I wouldreplace that guy just because, not necessarily because I was a lot betterthan him or anything like that, but if I was able to at least hold my own,they would probably put me in that position because of what happened inthe offseason so great spot for me to be in and then know really t was up to me at thatpoint. It was it's one of those things where you know it's a one and done ifyou don't get it done. You know you're out and for me at that point it was myoldest brother got drapteded for baseball. My second moes brother gotdrafted late to the Lions and then rob wone and second round. So I was theonly family member that T at wasn't drafted, so it was kind of like that,fighhare that competition that there's no way in hell, I'm going to be theonly brother that doesn't make a team right. So what's that, like now yourDallas Cowboy coming out of the tunnel for the first time that must beunbelievable man. That was insane that I mean, if you want to talk aboutdistractions, that stadium has some disturbe faction is going on right, soyeah the first time running the hodle was it was crazy because you neverreally anywhere else are looking around or n w distracted by anything. But thefirst time in the huddle I had is like ask somebody else what the play was,because I was kind of just in a days for a minute, so definitely a differentexperience, but once once a ball snapped, it's all the same. You don'tknow. What's going on you're, so lacty and you so munt adreunalind that youdon't know what's going on anywhere outside of outside of the Hotdo or whoyou're blocking? Do you remember your first play yeah for sure ive ran a like a littlejust a little outroute. That was it. So did you get the boll now that was wideopen, hough whow's, the game against first game? We put against the bears wo.That first game I started was against the bears, but I did play in the first game. U Ididn't start the first game. Did you play a lot of special teams as wellyeah? So I was on. I was on every special team, so the only one one it wasn't on waskickoff covers originally, but the rest of my career after the cow bays. Iplayed all four special teams, so how many years en did total? Did youget? I? The NFL is stay. I played three years. Thirty six games, I playd inthirty six games and then I got four credited SSince ended up getting hurtwith the chargers and taking it at an...

...injury settlement. For a fourth year,so what happened in your injury, igot rolled up on and practice justRonni Brown, the running back of the time just fell on the back of my leg:Hiinkle sprayin an camp and really looked like it was my job I a I wasthere on a minimum contract going against the highest PA full back in theLeague. So I was looking pretty good just because of the a value play for meand I was playing on every special team. So had a good feeling. I was making theteam and then you get rolled up on and your damage Goos at that point so took he injury settleme got got it exraear in it and it took off now. Did you tell yourself hey I'm going to try toget back in the League after that, or did you just say? Okay, I've had enoughI've been in football for a long time. I'm going to look and see what else Icould do. Maybe yous had a counting degree. I got it, Arizona, Hey! I wasready Mat. I was kind of crazy because at that time, after my third season, mywife started this little business, little side, business on the side and she was like there's no way in how I'mgoing to go find another job. Is I my fourth job in four years? You know fromcollege on to you know three teams I went to and I ' like I'm just I'm done,I'm going to find a way to work from home, so she did d. She startedhampeting my glasses and I came home one day and I was like whatever youknow this. This is going nowhere, but I started selling it started, selling alot and started selling so much that you couldn't keep up with it. O SHEUhad to find a way to scall. It started doing like vinyl stickers, instead kindof like th stuff. You stick out of car. She put that on cups, and it did sowell that she again she couldn't keep up with that and at that time I waslike wow. You know there might actually be something here so going into myfourth year. We actually started investing money into commercial, Grat,lajor and gravers and other machinery and started to get our own starting tosource our own products with O R, with our name on it and it started taking ofl start explodingactually, and so I went after that summer. I went back to camp and I kindof had this on the back of my mind that you know this is doing so well, youknow, obviously I hat gotball still there and I was a hundred percent in onthat. But if something happened I had something to fall on, so ended up getting hurt going back and it was crazy because I ended up makingmore money that year with her business and I would have playen football, so itall ended up working out. It was a good transition for me and I did try to at that time. I was stillrehaving. I had to Rehab for about three months to get back to a hundredpercent, and then I was at that point. I was still in goodshape and I had a triout in Miami and I went there and I ran a forty and Glo ou,my hamstring, so I ructured it and I said Al Right: That's Athat's a goodending so and he I'm dring again Huh til yeah,it's e the deal for me. It was either have surgery get it reattached or justlet it scar down and I'm fine like I could do everything I just can't. Do itat that exclosive level that I would have needed to at the NFL level, but ona daily basis like I can you know I play basketball every day Y I could Icould run. I could do all that it just would have hurt me if I continue toplay football and didn't metir her all the way. So really just an ending in a lot of guys, don't getan ending a lot of guys keep on going for me. It was you know this is thesign that I'm hundred percent done, I'm not going to continue to try anymore.At that point it looks nice that you had something to fall back on that youknow things other things in your life were going well, so that yeah thatdoesn't get to happen for a lot of guys because they've been lagina dream andfighting for it and going after it and then all of a sudden it doesn't come tofruition and then they're saying I don't even know what I'm going to donow and that's yeah and that's an I see guys like that all the time. A lot ofmy good friends, because that's all your learned, that's all you know andyou're making so much money that it's hard to sep back and say: Hey, I'mgoing to take this entry level position for sixty grand a year when I wasmaking you know a hundred twenty a game. So it's definitely it's a hard transition.I see guys for years struggling with it still to this day and what guys that Iwas playing with no five six seven years ago or whatever Wa gits up there.Now, let's see seven years ago and and they're still struggling W th with whatto do so, I actually did. I was blessed and lucky to kind of just foll uponwhat I did so when did ice Shaker kind of take form, so I shaker was so. I was about fiveyears out of the League. At that point, my wife's business was was doing reallywell ias full time with that we continue to grow it today. It's theOlte name of her business. It's called a everything decorated. It's called itstarted on adsy kind of like a arton craft website yeah, as grown from there to a website in theHereti shop, does really well it's one of the top raint on t e, the whole Plau,so she's still doing that yeah! Absolutely she I still growing. Shejust hired another three people two weeks ago, so well how old s her soneGor we're about six years in now, Sixy, seven years, that's great! So it's donereally well so, with that came...

...we're personalizing, a ton of cups, aton of Yetdi cups at the time, the summer to the winner, two thousand andfifteen. It was just this blood, this massive flood of Yetty cups andeveryone wanted to personalizm because Tyeu're all exactly the same, there'sreally no way to separate him. So everyone's coming into our shop, sayingyounow how much, how much o we started, buying the cups direct fromYetewerbuwe're buying like twenty five grand werther cups a week and they wereselling like the same day. Well we're Soll for triple the prize, we're selingfor a hundred fifty bucks, a pop and itwas kind of like hey wife, gave me one and I'm like. I don'teven want to use this thing, because I know how much I could give for it, butshe engraved it for me, put my name on it, so I had to use it and I startedusing it. I'm like you now. This is actually pretty cool. My drinks coldthe whole day, but when I went to the gym it was, you know, back to theplastic Shaker bottle that used for years and the middle of the summer came aroundand it was like hundred fifteen hundred ten degrees inDallas and by the time I got there, ou water was warm. It was completelymelted. There's Wateran, sweat marks a all over the place and like why isn'tthis technology in the SHAKOR bottle? And so that was when the idea cameabout. It was Yo. Now I'm going to take this cup and I'm going to turn it intoyouow a cup. I can use all day every single day and I wanted it really justfor myself. So at that time wee already supplying and we were manufacturingyour own products for my life's company and we use our same connections,because we were making a lot of tumblers and Plasti tomor stuff likethat for the wedding industry and use those same connections and said Hey,you know we want to take this cup and make it into to a Shaker bottle,make it something that we can use all day every day and that's how it started. So how did now? How did Shark Dank comeinto play like at what stage you are you approached by short tanker you forsow shark t? It was crazy in two thousand and hrteen. When I wasstill playing, I had a, I had a email actually come in for brooston houseports and the email just said: Hey H, this this show was looking for anyformer athletes, and so I saw I was a huge fan of the show, and I was likeman, that's so cool. I wish I had something to go on the show with so I still Playei at the time had youknow, no plans had didn't. Have a company or anything like that at thetime and hen when the idea for I suger cameabout. I said man. This is like the perfect info commercial, like sharktank type of younow product. So immediately I put a game plan together.I was like hey. I can't contact them yet because there's nothing there yet!So let me get you know, get going. Let me get a couple sailes. Let me provesomethings at the Teir first and then I'm going to hit him up and I looked itup online. I knew when they were filming for the next episode, and I wasabout six months out from that. So I finally got the product up and readyto sell right at the been of the year so in January, and then I had this sixmonth period where I wanted to contact them, and then they were filming inJune. So at about three months in in Marsh, I had about twenty twentyfivesand dollars in soules. At that time, I'm like all right, there'ssomething there. There's enough there, I'm going to try to reach out and seeif they're still interested. So I did and got an email back saying. You knowI no longer work there and I'm like damn it y. What Yeah? What do I do now,but she imediately brote back and said, oh by the way Yoi. I did forward youremail and they responded back to me. Here's the corect contact, so I resop Item and they just said o. You have to make a video, so you know we like thetidea, but you know everyone goes to this process. We need a videosubmission from you. So at that point I was like all right. I got to do thisright. Like I gotta, I know they're looking for entertainment, you know Ihave a good shot because t ey we're already looking for forma fel players,but let's go all out in this video. So I did everything I could. I did likecrazy workous. I was ripping my shirt off. Youow flex in the camera had likehighlight films like flashing through the screen, and it was like the worst but best videothat you could get and did you make a video yourself, yeah ind, so yeah likeit was. It was like it wasn't professionally done or anything likethat, and so I we send it in and I'm like. Ihave no idea how this is going to turn out and every day I kind of watch tosee if they, if you send it, you submit as a youtube video and it's private. So if they watch it,you'll know ree's no go and check every day and see if they watch it. In theone day I sawl of a sudden there's five views on it. So I'm like Arigh it'shappening today and tha. I got a call and they're like yonowthat's, exactlywhat we need love it love the energy and go. We love to have you on the show,but it's still a long process so still had to go through just hundredsof sheets of paper and they had to do more interviews and stuff like that andeventually you know, I finally got an opportunity to go there and then they still say likeeven after you get there, they might not film you even after they film you,they might not air you, so there's still a long process. From that pointon, and so I just studid study, Studie Watch every single episode I could andthe day of I', like they better film US...

Right, ended up getting once once robthe rest of my family was involved in like e there's, no way that they're notgoing to film us at this point, and that was kind of when I was like yeahwe're good that we're in well. I thought I like how you got them allinvolved in it. That was the best part like if you're getting the sharksinvolved on something and get them out of their chairs. It's going to be waybetter than them just sitting there grilling you about like how much moneyhave you? May you know what what's your valuation and all that stuff, so I likewhat you guys did that was great yeah. It was, it was actually huge. I thinkit was o the best thing we could have done, because all the hard questionsthat I was ready for were never asked right. The show actually is Thou H. Iwas up there for over an hour being interviewed, so everything from youknow high school, you o. When I studied where I went to college everything Iwas doing after football. They asked all those questions. You know all mystrategy, what I was doing with he comit everything and they don't showthat stuff. They just show the most entertaining stuff, but even with howmuch they asked me, it really never got. I really never got drilled like I'veseen people get drilled and I think it was because we walked in there withenergy we're having fun and we challenge them in Flip Cup and thewhole mood kind of changed at that point. where it was kind of a more funlove and show at that point, instead of just me getting absolutely hounded bythem Wero, were you nervous when you first started like when you walk out,it has to be a little intimidating because everybody goes on. It shows alittle intimidated, yeah. What they do is they make. Youstand there for like two minutes, while they get all like the the shots around you, so the camerasare just flying back and forth around you and, and they want to get everyangle before you even start talking, because then they they kind of spliceaty and at certain points when they need to so you stand there for abouttwo minutes before and you're just staring at them at the sharks andthey're just looking at you, and so in that two minutes, like with anythingwhere, even if you weren't nervous, if you're going to start getting nervous.Because of that reason, so you do see a lot of people freeze and- and that's Ba,I think, that's where it comes from so I walked out there you're confident,you're moving and then all of a sudden you're standing there still for twominutes and you kind of get a little nervous. But once you start talkingjust with anything, you start flowing you're good and you like instant reportto with Cuban both being from Dallas and stuff to that probably helped kindof break the ice a little bit. Oh absolutely you got. You have two guysup there that Tho areblt sports minds. You know they're going to immediatelyresonate with your brand and then you have Mr Wonderfull who's a Boston baseguy. So I knew he would also be on board witheverything and he was actually the first one to throw an offer out. Sothat was that was a good thing. What was his offer? Because I know you askedwhat ten percent for a hundred grand yeah, so he came at at twenty percentand and Tryd to talk it down. But you right,we ended up, ended up getting what what I asked for. Well, that's good, that'sgood, because that that to me that's the hardest thing is they give you anoffer and if you're like, if that's he firstoffer, maybe I don't get another one. What should I do? You know and they'reasking you right there take it or leave it ye absolutely yeah. Cuban pules issometimes, if you don't take it, it's good, it's gone. So that has to benerve, oractive, absolutely yeah, and I was hoping that wouldn't be the caseand we ended up getting offers from all five. So it was. It was a good turmeout for us, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD! Now. How are you guys doing? Are you guysexploding, like you think you should yeah but yeah for sure it brought a tonof Mo medum to the product really at the time we had one bottle one size.That was it. It was not thing. It was a side hols.So we went on the show. I had eightyhsand dollars in sales within oneyear. We did an update within one year. We had. We had over three million thatcame in and really grew the product from one bottle to. I think we have tendifferent variations out of the bottle and then, with that we have, you knowdifferent patterns colors, and so we have probably over a hundred cus atthis point. How much interaction do you have with Arod and Cuban? Do they still check inoccasionally, or you got calls probably with them, or is that what's that, allyeah they like to see the monthly financials, so I got to send those over, but no really humans build out this whole team. Hehas this whole team of he has over a hundred sarcane companiesthat he's invested in so he's built up a team over the years to help out allthese companies. So what's cool about him? Is this whole network's huge? Ican call up one of his guys in any time and they kind of all specializingsomething else. So if I need help with one thing, I call one guy somethingelse called another guy, but it's worked out well. They also connectme with all their other brands, so if, for instance, another company callednuts and more, they do these spreads with with protium and they sell to asimilar demographics. Well right away, they're going to connect me with theseguys an we're going to see what they're doing you know how we can benefit fromthem, but also how they can benefit from us. You know we might do a couple.F collaboration, send out email, blass or give away together, O stomefhinglike that, and so it's just all about connecting nhatworking and then givinghelp and advice and that's what's been...

...huge for us, bring itgself to the tableimmediately like like GNC, where he immediately went Y, know national withGNC and then also still sitting on the phone and negotiating the contrastswith me. These big companies, the verbige and everything they put ina contract is crazy and when you haven't done it before, you know you'rejust giving away the house and they're on the phone saying hey by the way. Youknow we negotiate with you guys and we're in with five with the brands. Youknow we're not we're not doing that this time or you know we're not takingthat. You know we're not doing. These kind of deals are term, so really goodand helpful to actually have them on your side for big contracts like thatyeah, I just saw where you did a deal with Ruth Chris, the state cous right yeah, so we yeah, we have all kinds ofcompanies coming in we're able to personalize each and every bottle. Sowe have a bunch of big companies coming in. We have Bacardi com by a bunch ofbottles. You know. Companies like Ruth Chris Today woke up at four am andwe're doing a company called action equipment andjust a big company out of Florida that bought a bunch of bottles just foralltheir employees and and customer gifts, so really cool that our bottleisn't just we're not just the shake or bottle it's really a bottle foreverything, and then we have tumblers and other cups as well. So getting aton of big companies coming in just saying: Hey we're looking for something!That's high quality, a good customer service fast turn around time and alsohas a story behind it because e people today they want to tell a story as well:they're not just going to buy. You know a no name, knock off product or buyfrom a company than ever heard of before they'd rather support someonethat they stand behind that they like in that they know and trust yeah. Ilike the fact that you can use it from multiple things like if you think of aprotein shake bottle, you're thinking of it just for proteing and working out.You guys have shown that you, yours is versotile. You can put whatever youwant in it, and you know it's GOINGTO. Last you all day Dave. I think youshould get one just because that's like one of your favorite things every timeyou're with Dave's he's, got his little Yettie you're yetty, but it's ite way.It's just it's just hiding what your! What's in there we can't when you can'tsee inside it's, he there's a little secret Tam to the whole thing Ye. So what you got in there? Well,there's all it just depends on the hour of the day and the day of the Weekan.It varies, but yeah. A sometimes C also can also make drinks in here too andsounds like yeah. I know that's the best thing about it. You can use it forall kind of stuff. The worst thing is, is those old cocktail shinkers, youcan't get the lid off and there allte yeah it's a pain, its just like it'slike the beginner version of a cocktail shaker, but it also floats in the pooltoo so erea part it's ready for efect, easy cleaning, C everything everything. No, I think it's I have a friend that has one. I don't I,like. I told you my my Yeddi is a lot of miles on it, but I think it's timedog great. I think it is tand up great Chris. So one of the last things we doheare on the show. We really appreciate you coming on and talking with us todayabout your life and everything that happened to it, and I like to thinkthat the Chris backtat grew up in Buffalo, really didn't think about where hislife was going to lead and all the transitions you had, and that's reallywhat our shows about that. You might start somewhere in sports, really helpsyou become who you are today, but you haveno idea, and I think one of the biggest things about sports is that it teachesyou to get back up. You know you've had injuries, you've been on differentteams, you've gone from Maryland to Arizona all these things, and you hadto build your brand and it's amazing to hear your story of how you built yourbrand and it's something that your parentsthought you everything that you learne from a kid and it's just an amazingstory, and we appreciate you coming on with us w on last things. We do. We doa two minute drill. We blast a bunch of questions at you and we're going topower down the field and and put it in the ends on here so dave once you fireaway with the Nolodel all right Chris. If you could trade places with oneperson in the world for one day dead or alive, who would that be? Oh, I'm goingwith the Rock. I guess imagine his daily routinespeedthat's Ottirch, like ha four, am lift in working out. Hopefully e. As anice Shaker, I mean ID be great to Seeve Rock. With an Ice Shaker, hey rob gavehem one. Oh Nice may ha with them. I don't know what happened to it, but hegave him one. I don't know like you see all the stuff that he's in. I don'tknow how he does so much like he's everywhere. I' Het. You know, man wants,we switch places there you go if you could be a commissioner for oneof the leagues NFL AN HL NBA whatever for a day again. What would you? Whatwould you change? Oh Man, I'm changing the new passinterference. Rule D, I'm getting rid of it already. Tis already killing thegame, horrible yeah, that drove me. I...

...watch one preseason game, I'm alreadymad about it. Yeah every single place pass interference. I mean you got toplay the game and if you you slow it down every place, there's going to be somekind of passengerference involved. So I hated that rule when it came out andit's going to last one year and it's going to be gone yeah we watching thePREC San Diego New Orleans yesterday and the running back caught the ball.He gave the the I don't know if het was a deback or liveback or a stiff farmjust up under the chin, tit called a facemass pedalty on them and I'm likehow do you even play the game anymore? That's that passener feris one's brutalthough, and it's all coming from one play. One called to me: Houl Ha been inthat game. There should be a rule where the rest can huddle up as a group andfor like ten seconds just say: Hey man hold ot time out. You blew that call.Let's huddle up for a second unless reverse it, and that's really whatshould happen in that playoff game, not a whole new rule that came out of bit.That's going to absolutely kill the game and slow it down. Yeah! No! Iagree. I agree all right, so you've been an athlete you're inbusiness, you're an owner now, what's your biggest pet peeve, oh man biggest pet peeve man, just just people that know how todo something, but they just don't. They have to askforst like that, drives me insane as a business owner. Anyone that only runs a business younow. You know how it's done, but they have to come and ask for kind ofjustapproval for something that you can just go and get done. That drives meand saying just just get things done this day and age o'll just get it downe!Just do it and that's kind of how I built my business thas how I've doneeverything was. It was figured out on your own right. I like that. I likethat, if you could go back and tell a younger version of yourself one thing:What would that be man, I would just say and have confidence in yourselfgrowing up and kind of the situation I was throwin into with Maryland, where Iwas kind of like hey here's the offer, because your grades, you know yourbrothers Yol this and he's killing it so itwas kind of like you, never reallyhad confidence in yourself until I got to that level. So my biggest thing withanyone, and once you have that confidence, you just so much better, all right so they're going to make amovie of the girl Kowskeys who's going to play. You Man, I don't know better, be a beast thoughyeah I sound like maybe the rock might play you I'll. Take that all day I like it, I like it. How about yourfavorite sports movie, My favorite sports movie? Oh Man, that's that'shappy Gomore for sure. Oh yeah, that's Hatgeat, one! Just hapeniwhat aboutyour favorite Ufa bar you OBE Bar! So, let's see, but we didn't really go to the barsthat much but rob was a bartender or he was. He was a bouncer for a while atthis is there's a sushi place there for a little bit. Oh Ye yeah, it's calledFuku yeah. I was I was talking to my friendsabout a month ago about that. I don't think it exist anymore, but it s it hadlike the highest like they were talking to other barowners. It surprisingly,the massive amount of money went through there. Now I don't know I Iwhat was going on, but it was one of the highest revenue places in the OldCity, but you'd. Never Beo, you'd, never know that Ol. You know like yeahlike it was. It was a big time bar but kind of like it wasn't like a dirt bag.For example, you know yeah yeah. Now I was Rinin University and Rab was you know he was? He was abouncer when he was hurt, so we would just go way and it was we could dowhatever we wanted. So that was my favorite, so you guys do a lot of stuff as a family, I'm sure you and your brothers and yourparents. So where do you guys like to go to hang out man? We usually end up IIN, Miami or or really wherever thetrip rais it so a lot of times. You know we were just had the ASPEACE in Laso we're all going to come e all going to meet up and we're all going to havea good time so suff like the SPS, pre party, whereusually it's not that fun Yoa we go and we turn it up and everyone's dancinghaving a good time so usually usually ends up in one of thebig cities for an abig event and is how we've been doing it lately. So you'msure your Guysg, you already got your party plan for Miami Yeah S, so we'reactually it's going to be called the Groung Beach Party. Oh God, that's Gointo be yeah. It's GOINNA be crazy, Dave, that's what W that's! What we'reworking on it hasn't been hasn't been launched. I released yet, but the grownyeah wcom. Having a beach party on Saturday before the game, ther'll be alot of peole a lot of ice shakers, theyre, better, be better Bethe next morning, filled witha lot of you know: Bloody Maries, all that kind of stuff getting peoplethrough. Oh yeah now, but letally hey.

We really appreciate you coming on willlet you know when this goal gets come comes out Y. It was a great Huddl with you today andI can't wait to tell your story and share with our fans and and really helpyou promote ice Shaker. We don't need any help from us, but I mean you guysare doing such a great job, and I wish you all the best of luck. Hey. We wantto thank you for Joiing US Today on Huddl up with Guss, where we talkd to awide range of guests about how supports shape to life. As always, I'm joined bymy great friend and Cohouse Dave Hager and we want you to be able to follow uson all of our social media at how to Wup with Gus. And we really appreciateyou and thank you for your time and listening to our podcast.

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