Huddle Up with Gus
Huddle Up with Gus

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Chris Gronkowski

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The founder of Ice Shaker, a high quality, stainless steel, shaker bottle. He appeared on Shark Tank and garnered an investment from Mark Cuban and guest host Alex Rodriguez. Yes, he has a brother named “Rob”, joining the Huddle is Chris Gronkowski. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What's up, Dave? Hey,guess Dave, we all, you know, in our fans out there have heardsometimes you struggle with trying to come up with the right words. Sowhat if you were to go in front of the sharks on Shark Tank?What do you think that would be like for you? Well, from whatI heard about the process, it's way more drawn out and much more frighteningthan even what it seems like on TV, because you stand there, I guess, for like fifteen minutes and they kind of just like hi, youup. So I don't know, I have a hard time just speaking instudio with just you and Cam and it's dark and there's no one watching.So I can't imagine. I couldn't imagine like Mark Cuban saying, Dave,tell me about your workforce. You know, when did you create this? Whatis it you know? And I can imagine being able to reply coherently. Yeah, I just have a dark time something you'd be like Coulin't hurtlejust got fired. Yeah, I just rattle off sports stats that aren't inconsequential. But we have a guest who's going to join us in the huddle whoactually did that with his brothers in front of those sharks and actually in oneand one struck a deal. Struck a deal not just like a your averagedeal, but with Mark Cub in and Alex Rodriguez, who was a guesthost that week. Yes, Judge Right, and just just another great story inthe lineup of guests that we've had. We all know him from his companybeing a chart tank creating the ice Shaker. His reasoning for doing itat is very powerful, because him and his brothers all love to work out. Yes, it's obvious if you've ever seen a picture, right, right. And then he has a super famous brother who's played in one of thegreatest franchises ever in the NFL. Yes, and just retired last year. Well, was dad's had a very successful business in the world of weightlifting andHealth for like thirty years, right, yeah, and and they entrepreneurial stuffwas there. The athletics stuff was there. They've been doing that. And thenhis wife, she has been entrepreneurial too since he's left. You ofa your old Alma Mater, and and it also played in the NFL.Yeah, while he's playing an nfl she had a successful online business. Yes, and then starting ice Shaker and those two working together. I mean justto entrepreneurial spirit they have, the transitions they've made, the passion that he'slived his life to go and try and play in the NFL and then takingthat on to what it means to be an entrepreneur. Yeah, no,it's and it's a great product. It's not something hooky that people are buyingit because they might recognize him from the NFL hour. There's family. It'sa nice I mean Mark Cuban and a rod aren't jumping on board unless theysee some benefit to it. And now he's partnering with other companies to puttheir logos on. I mean he's crazy busy. Yeah, great family.You may know the last name, but we want you to find out moreabout Chris Gronkowski, who's going to be joining us in a huddle right now, Dave. Today we got a fellow you of a along for you.You know down. Yeah, you guys are going to bear down the day, right, babby. And so we got Chris Gronkowski with us on oneof the mean his family could be more famous and or athletic or an athleticyea, or muscular, or muscular or there's a lot of all there's alot of things. You're really good at Flip Cup. I mean they're yeah, yeah, so. But welcome to day, welcome to the huddle.Chris Gronkowski with us today. Chris Krett, glad to have you on. Hey, thanks so much. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to behere. I don't always get to hang out with the other you have aAlam, so I'm very excited about this way. Hey, in Pittsburgh Ithink there's about four of us, so it's it's always nice to talk tosome man. Yeah, I don't know how many you have a basketball gamesI got to watch with Dave, but you know, I don't know.It's just it's sorry to find you have a in Pittsburgh. Hey, it'stough actually being a fan in Pittsburgh or even at Texas, because at leastwith football the Games are on, it's so late. I mean they startat one hundred and thirty. I watched the first quarter and I'm sleeping.That's thirty starts here for most of them. It's sometimes as games it's like quarterto two. I'm still like, especially if you're watching games earlier inthe day. So it looks a long day. Yeah, especially how theteam's doing. I'm not really sure because I don't usually watch the full game. So now in the products not that good, unfortunately. So I'm watchingthirty fingers. Is kind to get better...

...than maybe you get a quarterback.I don't know what to stay up and watch, I guess. So.So, Chris, one of the questions one day. Yeah, one ofthe questions we always start with is we kind of have an understanding of yourfamily, but we really want to hear from you. was what that sparkwas? When did you fall in love with was sports? Was It yourdad? I mean you guys just had an automatically, you had a teamautomatically. But what was that for you? What's your earliest memories of that?Man, really, growing up we played every sport. It's memory wasteaball, for sure. You grew up hitting, checking. It's really whereit out competitive. So you always had to be the guy that laid thebig hit. So hockey was our first love growing up in buffalo and reallyeverything, every day was a sport for us. Was a game for us. We competed in every single thing that we did. By the end ofthe day, you know, there was always a fight. If you want, you fought. If you lost, you fought. But it was anythingfrom just a little ministakes and in the basement or going in the backyard andplaying whiffleball. Everything turned into this huge competition and we weren't allowed to stayinside, we weren't allowed to sit there and watch TV or play video gamesbecause our parents just couldn't handle it. But I get outside, get thatenergy out, you guys are not sitting in this house. So everything wedid was just always a competition. It was always some kind of athletic eventthat we were doing. I mean, you guys had to be a nightmarein the neighborhood. When you guys go out and looking for whatever you're goingto play, the neighbors have been like, Oh man, we were we andwe were the house that everyone came to as well. So five boysplus at least one friend of all of ours always over at a time.So there was always a game to be played and we always competing against,you know, the older brother or the older brother's friends, or we're juststraight up fighting with them. So it was always super competitive and I thinkthat's really what bred us to be athletes. was just as constant compet petition allthe time, every single day. If you could take one thing thatyou learned from that experience, what would it be? Man, from growingup like that, man, it's just to always try to beat you thebest you can, because it mean it was kind of like you were.You're always trying to beat your older brother, you're always trying to show I alwaystrying to be better than them, and it just it just bread thiscompetition that you can't do any other way. So you really you can't. Youjust automatically do it. You can't really teach yourself it. It's justsomething that you're it's kind of just bred into you and at such an earlyage it just in grains into your mind that there's no other way to doit. You're going to go all out, you're going to go max out everysingle time because you want to win every time and really like get started. Way Back to you guys, I Know Your Dad Played College football,but your wasn't. Your great grandfather in the Olympics. Yeah, he wasa cyclist or something crazy like that. So it really that wasn't really somethingthat we even knew about, though, and really even my dad's football career. We really didn't know about that. Football really was never pushed upon us. Our oldest brother, Gordy, never even played football. So my dadhe said it, you know, if you guys want to play, youcan play. He never really pushed us into it and we never even playeduntil high school. So what was your first organize event? Sport that youguys played? Would have been baseball. First was yeah, baseball, andthen hockey. You guys, when you went to an organized event where youguys like really bored because it's like you got to stand there and wait andthere's rules and there's coaches and there's umpires and maps. Where we are?You guys are just going to backyard get it all out. Yeah, Imean hockey was a little bit different. So it was kind of like thatsport where you just went out there and you just did whatever. So thatwas cool, but baseball was definitely it was boring at first, at leastwhere you know t ball and all that. So little boring for us. Andthen we were just kind of much further along than everyone else because wewere competing against our older brothers, our older brothers friends, and so ourathletic level was just so much higher than everyone else is at that point already. Yeah, so that had to be a big difference for you guys.Like all of a sudden you're when you're competing at your own brothers and everybodyelse and you have to go compete against kids your own age. It's almostlike you got to slow down, take a, you know, step backand then and progress in a different kind of new way. Yeah, forus, we actually most of the time we were playing with in higher levelsor we were, you know, my dad and would try to get uson our older brothers teams. So a lot of times we were still playingwith older kids even up until, you know, twelve years old. Didyou play hockey through high school? No, we all. We all kind of. For us it was a transition in high school from hockey to football. If you played hockey, you pretty much only played hockey. In Buffaloit was kind of a year around sport. You're playing travel the high school coach. They want states every year and it was kind of like if youdon't play hockey, you know you're not going to be on the tea.If you don't play hockey your round, you're not going to be on theteam. So at that point it was our love for every sport and alsojust for football that kind of pushed us away from hockey. You made uschoose twoose between the two. So in...

Buffalo, who was your who's thatplayer for the bills that you guys all looked up to? You gotta saidyou had have a favorite. And Yeah, my dad went to every super bowl. So I went to all four games and it hang the you knowthis. He cushions up in his office and he was super proud of thebill. So Rod went to the Patriots. It's kind of a weird day forhim. But now we cheered for all of them. I mean JimKelly was a man, Eric Moules, I mean we were we were allin on the bills growing up. been biggest supportersman. So it was kindof its kind of crazy when everything kind of went to the different way.When when the FEL came around, well, he got John Fina too. Ithink he was in for Super Bowls. You have a lum also, thereyou go, tackle for the okay, yeah, my Tustin Act these.Yeah, he was my high school too. Yeah, we were.Well, also, my cousin Mitch played for the bills and knows he wentto three of the super bowls. He was an off of that Lineman forthe bills at that time. So your dad might remember him. He's probablytoo yeah, told, too old for you, but he does. Yeah, right, yeah, it kind of old trouble. Couple touchdowns for thebills, right. Yeah, so he was he's a Psu Penn state alone, but you know, he was a you know, it's funny when Ithink about having relatives in the NFL. He was so much older than methat I didn't really know him that well, but you guys are all so closetogether. That had to be such a great experience where you could callsomebody and talk about that situation, which it probably had to be a reallyneat experience for you. Yeah, absolutely, especially when my younger brother Glenn,comes in the League and he's playing the same position as me. Soit's one of those calls where it's a what do I need to do makethis team and what you do? You know, how do you feel outthis kind of this type of player or this kind of play? And soit's kind of cool being able to kind of coach him after the fact thatpriority went through. It myself. Other than that. Other than that,I just playing against my brothers. Were cool too. I got to playagainst rob when I was with the Broncos, to play against M Jules Stadium andwe're just talking trash the whole time. So cool experience when I'm running bythe sideline and he's yelling out there. You know, forty nine sucks andwhatever, but just cool to go get team and its teammates and juststalk trash and one of the most exciting games that I played in I couldimagine. So if we go back to your high school experience, as youhave a coach that you really look back to and kind of shape tell youthought about the game or really drove some good fundamentals into you. Yeah,absolutely, all our coaches were great. I think what helped us the mostat a young level was actually having a speed coach. We had a speedcoach come in. He was a former receiver. He played for a littlebit with the dolphins, but came in and really just worked on our speedand it's something that I recommend to two other kids in high school because ittook us to a level that no one else was at. We started thisguy started coaching us for only and by the next year he had hundreds ofkids out there, because the speed improvement was drastic. I mean, youdo you learn how to run. You got explosive movements, a lot ofthe Jodi stuff, and I think that's what really took us to the nextlevel, because there you go to these combines and you run a Boh becauseyou don't know proper form or you don't know how to run, or justa good start in forty. You know, it takes you immediately out of aDivision One scholarship. So just by having this guy come in teach usthe rite form, we got a lot faster, but our form and alsoour forty technique just got so much better that we were able to go tothose camps and actually shine. Do you think that's more important than just runningtrack in the spring? Him as FIS hard for me to say because wenever rent track, so we weren't a track and field family. We wereplaying other sports at that time, so either either baseball or basketball. Sowe never ran track and I mean I'm sure track helps a lot, butfor guys that don't run track, definitely great option. We are doing thespeed camp in the summer. So during the offtime, this is when wewere all summer long learning, learning how to run faster and with better form. So what were some of the technique techniques that you guys would use?He did he use bands or was it just did it? Would he videoyou guys? How would he really give you technique so you could have betterform in running? Yeah, all that arm swings, just, you know, do your ten yard starts, your proper form coming out of the fortyyards, and then just a ton of a jodie drills, so ladders,all those movements that you're going to see any ways at the next level.So a whole bunch of ladders and Jones and cal setic stuff like that,and then just running a lot. So we were running to her throwing upa lot of times, you know, hundred yard dashes and even four hundredsometimes, but just just a ton of running and with with perfect form waskind of the goal. And over one summer you drastically get so much betterand it was you could see it.

And it's crazy because our oldest brother, Gordy, came back from college. He was one of the slowest runnershis whole life. He's running over a five. Oh, and he wasclocking in the fastest out of all of us after one year for one summerand he was like, man, I should have played football, and henever did and he's always a slow kind of clumsy guy and it just drasticallyhelped him. What agere you when you started working with a coach? Iwas I was I think I was a freshman when he when we brought himin, my older brother Gordy had already left for college. Dan was arose round, a senior in high school and then rob was still in middleschool. So, like college recruiters are probably almost like. There's plenty aperiod of time where it was almost a stable your house. There's always someoneyou know talking to you guys about going to the next level. And whendid that start for you? O, man, that never started for me. Now there wasn't many recruiters coming into Buffalo. You know, they werecoming in to see rob. The rest of us all struggle to get outof Buffalo. It wasn't somewhere they were pulling talent out of. We arelucky to have one guy go with division one out of the whole area.In New York itself is a very small percentage for especially for how many peopleare in New York that actually get the one scholarship. So it was atough area to get out of. We had to go to a lot ofthe camps, we had to do a lot of visits, we were callingeveryone, were writing letters, we're doing everything. So for Dan, Danwas able to get a he's only had a couple offers. Huge Katie's amonster in in high school and he ended up getting a DNE offer from Maryland, but one of few. I came next and really it was a universityof Buffalo for me and some some division, one DOUAA and I was actually committedto go to University of pain. So I was going to go IvyLeague and last minute got a scholarship offer from Maryland just because Dan was doingso well. They lost a bunch of kids academic probation and they saw mygrades and my grades were actually what really got me scholarship. So never talkto the coaches. Last minute they offered me the scholarship and I ended uptaking a leaving pain or my commitment to University of pain and go into Marylandon a full scholarship. What was your experience a pain, like you werethere two years or so. I never actually went to pain. I'm urtedthere, Maryland. I'm sorry, Maryland. Yah went there. So two seasonsred shirted and then I played mostly just special teams and goal line asa fullback. But it was a tough place to play. The coach wasa hard nosed coach and it was almost like they never wanted me there.They offered me that last mate. I never talked to the coach and thenwe had, you know, the the spring beatings where my brother rob camein and they basically said and told Rob and my dad that I sucked.So at that point it was like a man, you know, I'm grinding. I was the strongest in that Strength Index on the whole team. Ihave a four. Oh, I'm playing, I'm doing everything I can in thisguy's just tearing me apart. So it was one of those moments whereI just said Hey, I want to go somewhere else. I'm going toplay somewhere else. So I actually left, went to Arizona and at that timerob was still looking for a school to go to and so we kindof paired it together and went together to Arizona. Oh, Nice. That'sthat's okay. I'm going to ask you how you got to Arizona, becausethat's a long way from Buffalo. It sure is. Yeah, we gotthere. Let's see, good family friend that was in the business with mydad selling fitness equipment. My Dad's been in the retail fitness equipment in commercialfor over thirty years. So had a good friend that was in the samebusiness as him, that was selling in Arizona and he was a u aalone. So he pushed the school super hard. Sunny dice came in.It came to our house and was just like, Hey, we threw theball eighty times the tight end last year, so if you want to come in, you want to play early and you want to cut to catch abunch of passes, Yo, this is school to come to you. You'regoing to be a big fish in a small pond. You're going to playright away and we're going to feature you. So between the two and then goingthere and driving a golf card around and going to pool party, wasall really took well. I would imagine there were some good sights at thePool Party. Ya, Sei is pretty so it wah it. It wasincredible actually coming from New York and going there and they were like throwing keggers. They were recruiting kids to live there, and this stopped before the time weleft, but yeah, like White Tshirt, contest kegs, everything.They were bringing in like minor celebrities just to get kids to come out andthen also stay there at those apartment complexes. So we went to one of thoseparties, rolled up on a golf car where like this is amazing,and that was kind of it. It's how we ended up there. How'dyou like stoops as a coach? He was good. He's mostly just adefensive coach. Yeah, so it's crazy. As you saw him during games,he really was. He's pretty calm during practice and he really only dealtwith the defense. So I almost never I mean it wasn't like he screamingat the offense or anything like that. If we did something good, hewas yon at the defense. Was Pretty Awesome. Do you play a littlelinebacker, though, or no? When I first got there, yeah,I had to sit out of Yere,...

...so when I came there I hadto sit out of year. I was playing linebacker, scout team linebacker orsomething like that, and I also tried oft for the baseball team and wason the baseball team for a yearn what position were you in baseball? Iwas just playing left field. Yeah, power hitter coming out. Really hadto decide between baseball and football and wanted to try it while I sat outfor a year. But once you stopped playing it goes away quick and Arizonawas number one of the nation that year. So I just kind of brought wrotethe bench and realize that sixty game seasons pretty long and had to makea decision between the two. So I was doing both and it was killingme. I was losing a bunch of weight. I was doing both workoutsas doing double headers on the weekend and then practicing for football week and justsaid man, this is it's too much. I got to focus on one.So I stopped with baseball after that year and went to football only.Yeah, that had to be that end to be difficult. I mean justplaying football a loan. It's a lot of work. I couldn't imagine doboth of those and trying to keep your academics of it was brutal. Itwas the lightest I ever weighed. I waited in I lost like twenty tothirty pounds just because I was never I was I was so busy. Iwas always doing something there, making me do both workouts and both practices andthen going straight to school. And I remember I waited at two hundred andten and I left Maryland at two hundred and forty and I was like man, this is this is crazy. And it wasn't like I wasn't eating,I was, I was eating everything inside. I just there was no time toeat or just doing too much activity. So really just had to make achoice at that point and I did and switched over to football full time. Yeah, you really need it. And I Shak your back then,didn't you? Yeah, yeah, man, when it come anywhere, then itwould have give running and summer, man, well, hundred ten degreesout in the middle of the day, running stadium, so I could haveused it. There's pool parties too, you know, with them complexes,pool parties. Yeah, pretty good. Ever, never know what's in atmany stays cold all day. Absolutely. So you're at you're in Arizona,you're getting you're into your senior year. What are your expectations going on afteryou senior year? Like, what are you thinking at that point. Yeah, I went there. I was pretty much totally if if I could atleast participate or play special teams, they put me on scholarship. So Idid get my academics or I got my I got my full scholarship back afterthe first half cemet or first semester, and my junior year I started playing. So I started as a fullback and they really told me when I wentthrough that the full back plays about ten snaps a game. So first gameI played about ten snaps. I did really good. Second Game I playedabout twenty. Third Game I was playing about thirty to forty snaps a game, playing all the special teams as well. So my junior year was kind ofthe time where it went from you know, you have zero chance.I never thought I'd go to the next level. You know, I waskind of just right in the wave. I was trying to get the bestdegree I can. I got a counting degree that I'll never use in mylife, but it's just trying to get we all have the right and wastrying to do the best I could with what I got. And my junioryear was really when people started coming in and saying hey, you have achance at the next level and I'm like now looking at my brother, notme, like no, like like the jets came in, they're looking fora full back and they were asking me about you. So that's kind ofthe only the first time I was like okay, so there's actually something here. So at that point, going in my senior year, I did gethurt and we also lost rob that year. So it was it was. Itwas tough because I pulled my Hammi the first week and college is awhole different story where, you know, I had one. They won't giveme any practice off at first, and then my whole leg bloed out,is black and blue and they gave me one day of practice off. Soat that point, you know, Baisy did nothing. I really played througha whole senior year where I can never really run full speed and I wasgetting yelled at and they're like well, you know, why are you trying? And it was like I'm trying, and they pull up film from theyear before and show me and they're like well, look at you here,look at you now, and I'm like I told you over and over andover, like I can't, my hamstring is done, like it's blown out, and so it was a rough year for me and it really took meafter I was done. I took about three to four months before I actuallygot back up to full speed and really didn't get that right until about proday, about a couple weeks before that, was actually at full speed again.Well, Hey, that's when it counts. Was your pro day isto be its full speed and in all that training you've had over all thoseall that experience you've had in those different transitions, I'm sure that made youready to go and have a great day when the pros commit to really lookat you. Oh, absolutely, that's the that's their biggest day of yourlife. And you train three four months and that's all you do. Imean we didn't do anything besides train and eat right. You know, wewere in Miami in a hotel and it was wake up super early, train, eat, train again, take quick nap, train again, and thatwas it. It was all rehaving as well, massages, everything you can. So a lot of guys didn't take advantage of that time. A lotof guys that were they're supposed to do. You know that we're supposed to bedoing the same things as us. We're still out party and they werestill out, you know, sopping at...

...making D's, they were skipping theworkouts, but you know, it was a hundred percent all in. Robwas in the same boat as me at that time. He's coming back offout back surgery, so we're fighting together every single day to get healthy andget ready for that day. How was your dad and influence on all that? He was. He was huge for all of us. He's always beenkind of the go to when we had any issues, are our problems,and for me, I mean he led the way for me because he wasthe one out there, you'll contact in the school, was trying to getme in, you know, putting the letters out there, making sure thatI was doing the right things. And then just at my size and myheight, it was always hey, you have to get in that weight room, you have to become more explosive, you have to do this, becauseyou're not six six, you're not running a for for like like everyone else. So he was a huge influence on on all of us just to putus in the right way, put us the lead us in the right step. So other than that, NFL, wise you kind of just sit backand and you watch it happened at that point. So yeah, so thedraft is coming up, you are there expectations and being drafted. Did youhave an idea of what might happen or is it kind of up in theair? Yeah, for me it was possibly very late. So like afifth, fifth round picker on I was getting calls during it, before itas well. Was told a couple times that I could draft did six orseventh round and then. So really, if that was the case in myagent said, you know, it's probably wouldn't have been the best case ifI got stuck somewhere as a value pick, for a six or seventh round pick, it might not have been as great because, you know, theydon't necessarily want you at that point. They're just they're drafting for value.So by going on drafted, I was able to pick where I wanted togo and I think I was put into a lot better situation because of that. You definitely would have to go to a place that you know, becauseon every team use the full back anymore, but you know, you had togo to a team that that would use a full back. You know, a lot of big part of the game. Had to go to acoach that. You know, love that, I that. You know, thosethose different formations that would use a full back and that was one ofmy favorite offense because I came in with north of Turner. We use thefull back all the time and I love that system. I love that system. Did you yeah, Yees, you end up going to the cowboys?Right, yeah, and I mean they had a very great full back forall those years and Darrell Johnson, and then, you know, there's abig legacy to hold up to. When you went there. Absolutely yes.I got put into a position where the full back before me was great,great player, but he was in some offseason trouble, so they weren't sureif they would keep them around or not. So really, my agent did agreat job of scouting and put me in a spot that he knew ifI did well, they I would replace that guy just because, not necessarilybecause I I was a lot better than him or anything like that, butif I was able to at least hold my own, they would probably putme in that position because of what happened in the offseason. So great spotfor me to be in and then really was up to me at that point. It was it's one of those things where you know what's a one anddone. If you don't get it done, you're out. And for me atthat point it was my oldest brother got drafted for baseball, my secondolder brother got drafted late to the Lions and then rob went in second round. So I was the only family member that wasn't drafted. So it's kindof like that fire, that competition that there's no way in Hell I'm goingto be the only brother that doesn't make a team. Right. So what'sthat like? Your Gall's cowboy coming out of the tunnel for the first timemust be unbelievable. Man, that was insane. That I mean, ifyou want to talk about distractions, that stadium has some distraction. It's goingon right. So yeah, the first time running that huddle was it wascrazy because it you never really anywhere else are looking around or distracted by anything, but the first time in the huddle I had to like ask somebody elsewith the play was because I was kind of just in a days for aminute. So definitely a different experience. But once once a ball snapped,it's all the same. You don't know what's going on, you're so lockedin, you're so much adrenaline that you don't know what's going on anywhere outsideof the outside of the huddle or who you're blocking. Do you remember yourfirst play? Yeah, for sure. I've ran a like a little,just a little out route. That was it's know. Did you get theball? Now? That was wide open, though. Who was the game against? First Game we played against the bears. Well, that the firstgame I started was against the bears, but I did play in the firstgame, but I didn't start the first game. Did you play a lotof special teams as well? Yeah, so I was on. I wason every special team. So the only one one I wasn't on was kickoffcovers originally, but the rest of my career after the cowboys, I playedall four special teams. So how many years and did total did you getin Nfilm? I stay I played three years, thirty six games. Iplayed in thirty six games and then I got four credited seasons. Ended upgetting hurt with the chargers and taking it...

...out an injury settlement for a fourthyear. So what happened in your injury? I got rolled up on in practicejust Ronny Brown, the running back of the time, just fell onthe back of my leg, high inkle sprain and camp and really looked likeit was my job. I was. I was there on a minimum contract, going against the highest paid full back in the league. So I waslooking pretty good just because of the value play for me, and I wasplaying on every special team. So had a good feeling I was making theteam. And then you get rolled up on and your damage goods at thatpoint. So took the injury settlement, got it next your ear in itand it took off. Now did you tell yourself, Hey, I'm goingto try to get back into league after that, or did you just sayyou can, I've had enough, I've been in football for a long time. I'm gonna look in see what else I can do. Maybe use anaccounting degree. I got an Arizona. Hey, I was ready, man. I was kind of crazy because at that time, after my third season, my wife started this little business, little side business on the side,and she was like there's no way in how I'm going to go find anotherjob. Is My fourth job in four years, you know, from collegeon to, you know, three teams I went to, and it's likeI'm just I'm done. I'm going to find a way to work from home. So she did and she started hand painting my glasses and I came homeone day and I was like whatever, you know this, this is goingnowhere. But it started selling. It started selling a lot, and Istarted selling so much that you could keep up with it. So she hadto find a way to scallet. Started doing like vinyl stickers instead, kindof like the stuff you stick on a car. She put that on cupsand it did so well that shit again. She couldn't keep up with that andat that time I was like wow, you know, there might actually besomething here. So, going into my fourth year, we actually startedinvesting money into commercial grade laser engravers and other machinery and started to get ourown starting to source our own products with our with our name on it,and it's our taking off. Started exploding actually, and so I went afterthat summer, I went back to camp and I kind of had this onthe back of my mind that, you know, this is doing so well. Obviously I football still there and and I was a hundred percent in onthat, but if something happened, I had something to fall on. Soended up getting hurt going back and it was crazy because I ended up makingmore money that year where her business and I would have played football. Soit all ended up working out. Is a good transition for me and Idid try to. At that time I was still rehab and I had toRehab for about three months to get back to a hundred percent and then Iwas at that point, I was still in good shape and I had atry out in Miami and I went there and I ran a fourteen blow onmy hamstring. So I ruptured it and I said, all right, that'sit. That's a good ending. so that HAM string again. Huh Still. Yeah, it's the deal. For me. It was either have surgery, get a reattached or just let it scarred down and I'm fine. LikeI can do everything. I just can't do it at that explosive level thatI would have needed to at the NFL level, but on a daily basis, like I can. I play basketball every day, I could, Icould run, I could do all that. It just would have hurt me ifI continue to play football and didn't I to heal all the way.So really just an ending in a lot of guys don't get an ending.A lot of guys keep on going for me. It was you know,this is the sign that I'm a hundred percent done. I'm not going tocontinue to try anymore. At that point it looks nice that you had somethingto fall back on, that you know things, other things in your life. We're going well. So that, yeah, it. That doesn't getto happen for a lot of guys because they've been absolute dream and fighting forit and going after it and then all of a sudden it doesn't come tofruition and then they're saying, I don't even know what I'm going to donow, and that's yeah, and that's I see guys like that all thetime, a lot of my good friends, because that's all you're learned, that'sall you know, and you're making so much money that it's hard tostep back and say, Hey, I'm going to take this entry level positionfor sixty grand a year when I was making, you know, hundred twentygame. So it's definitely a it's a hard transition. I see guys foryears struggling with it still to this day. And what guys that I was playingwith five, six, seven years ago, or whatever it's up therenow. Let's see seven years ago and they're still struggling with with what todo. So I actually did. I was blessed and lucky to kind ofjust fall upon what I did. So when did um I shaker kind oftake for? So I shaker was so I was about five years out ofthe League. At that point. My Wife's business was was doing really well. It's full time with that. We continue to grow it today. It'sstill also name it her business. It's called everything decorated it's called. Itstarted on Etsy, kind of like a arts and crafts website. Yeah,as has grown from there to a website and the her at sea shop doesreally well. It's one of the top ranked on the on the whole platform. She's still doing that. Yeah, absolutely, she'd still growing. Shejust hired another three people two weeks ago. So well holds her girl. We'reabout six years in now, six, seven years. That's great. Soit's done really well. So with...

...that came we're personalizing a ton ofcups, a ton of Yetie Cups. At the time the summer to arethe winner of two thousand and fifteen. It was just this flood, thismassive flood of Yettie Cups, and everyone wanted to personalize them because you're allexactly the same. There's really no way to separate them. So everyone's cominginto our shop saying, you know, how much, how much? Sowe started buying the cups direct from yet eve were but we're buying like twentyfive grand where the cups a week and they were selling like the same day. Well, we're sounding for triple the prize. We're something for a hundredfifty bucks a pop and it's kind of like hey, wife gave me oneand I'm like, I don't even want to use this thing because I knowhow much I could get for it, but it's she engraved it for meput my name on it, so I had to use it and I startedusing it. I'm like, you know, this is actually pretty cool. Mydrinks cold the whole day, but when I went to the gym itwas, you know, back to the plastic Shaker bottle that used for years. And the middle of the summer came around and it was like a hundredfifteen or hundred ten degrees in Dallas and by the time I got there mywater was warm. It was completely melted. There's water sweat marks all over theplace and Mike why isn't this technology in this Shaker bottle? And sothat was when the idea came about. It was I'm going to take thiscup and I'm going to turn it into, you know, a cup I canuse all day, every single day, and I wanted it really just formyself. So at that time we already supplying it and we were manufacturingour own products for for my wife's company, and we use our same connections becausewe were making a lot of tumblers and plastic tumbler stuff like that forthe wedding industry, and use the same connections and said Hey, you know, we want to take this cup and make it into to a Shaker bottle, make it something that we can use all day every day. And that'show it started. So how did I know? How did Shark tank comeinto play? Like it would stage you are you approached my shark tank oryou pros Jo Shark tank? It's crazy. In two thousand and thirteen, whereI was still playing, had a had an email actually come in fromrosenhouse sports and the email just said, hey, this this show is lookingfor any former athletes, and so I saw it. I was a hugefan of the show and I was like man, that's so cool. Iwish I had something go on the show with. So I'll still playing.At the time had, you know, no plans, had didn't have acompany or anything like that at the time. And when when the idea for Ishaker came about, I said, man, this is like the perfectinfocommercial, like shark tank type of product. So immediately I put a game playingtogether. I was like, Hey, I can't contact them yet because there'snothing there yet. So let me get your get going, let meget a couple sales, let me prove somethings their first and then I'm goingto hit him up. And I looked it up online. I knew whenthey were filming for the next episode and I was about six months out fromthat. So I finally got the product up and ready to sell right atthe beginning of the year, so in January, and then I had thissix month period where I wanted to contact them and then they were filming inJune. So at about three months in, in March, I had about twentytwenty five thousand dollars in sales. Of that time I'm like, allright, there's something there, there's enough there I'm going to try to reachout and see if they're still interested. So I did and got an emailback saying, you know, I no longer work there, and I'm like, damn well, yeah, what do I do now? But she immediatelywrote back and said, Oh, by the way, you know, Idid for your email and they responded back to me. Here's the correct contact. So I reach out to them and they just said you have to makea video. So, you know, we like the idea, but youknow, everyone goes through this process. We need a video submission from you. So at that point I was like, all right, I got to dothis right, like I gotta. I know they're looking for entertainment.I have a good shot, because they were already looking for former NFL players, but let's go all out in this video. So I did everything Icould. I did like crazy workouts, I was ripping my shirt off,your flex in the camera had like highlight films like flashing through the screen andit was like the worst but best video that you could get. And didyou make a video yourself? Yeah, it's so, yeah, like itwas. It was like it wasn't professionally done or anything like that. Andso I we sent it in and I'm like, I have no idea howthis is going to turn out, and every day I kind of watched thishee they it. You send it, you submit as a youtube video andit's private. So if they watch it, you'll know. Right. I goand check every day and see if they watched it, and the oneday I saw the sudden there's five yews on it. So I'm like Iit's happening today and I got a call and they're like Yo, that's exactlywhat we need. Loved it, love the energy and you know, welove to have you on the show. But it's still long process. Sostill had to go through through just hundreds of sheets of paper and they hadto do more interviews and stuff like that, and eventually, you know, Ifinally got an opportunity to go there. And then they still say like evenafter you get there, they might not film you, even after theyfilm you, they might not air you. So there's still a long process fromthat point on, and so I just study, study, study,watch every single episode I could and the day of I'm like they better filmUS Right. Ended up getting once once...

...rob the rest of my family wasinvolved in like either's no way that they're not going to film us at thispoint, and that was kind of when I was like, yeah, we'regood, that we're in. Well, I thought, I like how yougot them all involved and that was the best part. Like, if you'regetting the sharks involved in something and get them out of their chairs, it'sgoing to be way better than them just sitting there grilling you about like muchmoney, if you may. You know what your what your valuation and allthat stuff. So I like what you guys did. That was great.Yeah, it was. It was actually huge. I think it was thebest thing we could have done, because all the hard questions that I wasready for we're never asked right the show actually is. I was up therefor over an hour being interviewed. So everything from, you know, highschool, you know what I studied, where I went to college, everythingI was doing after football. They ask all those questions. You know allmy strategy, what I was doing with the common everything, and they don'tshow that stuff. They just show the most entertaining stuff. But even withhow much they asked me, it really never got I really never got drilledlike I've seen people get drilled, and I think it was because we walkedin there with energy, we're having fun and we challenge them at Flip Cupand the whole mood kind of change to that point where it was kind ofa more fun, Louve and show at that point instead of just me gettingabsolutely hounded by them. Were you nervous when you first started? Like whenyou walk out, it has to be a little intimidating because everybody goes onit shows a little intimidated. Yeah, what they do is they make youstand there for like two minutes while they get all like the shots around you. So the cameras are just flying back and forth around you and they wantto get every angle before you even start talking, because then they kind ofsplice that in a certain points when they need to. So you stand therefor about two minutes before and you're just staring at them, at the sharks, and they're just looking at you. And so in that two minutes,like with anything where even if you weren't nervous, it's you're going to startgetting nervous because of that reason. So you do see a lot of peoplefreeze and and that's bad. I think that's where it comes from. SoI walked out there, you're confident, you're moving and then all of asudden you're standing there still for two minutes and you kind of get a littlenervous. But once you start talking, just with anything, you start flowing, you're good. And you'd like instant report to with Cuban, both beingsfrom Dallas and stuff to that probably helps kind of bring the ice little bit. Oh absolutely. You have to have two guys up there that you are, both sports minds. You know they're going to immediately resonate with your brand. And then you have Mr Wonderful, who's a Boston Bass Guy, soI knew he would also be on board with everything, and he was actuallythe first one to throw an offer out, so that was that was a goodthing. What was is offer. So I know you asked, what, ten percent for a hundred grand. Yeah, so he came at twentypercent and and try to talk it down, but you're right. Ended up endedup getting what I what I asked for. Well, it's good,it's good because that that to me. That's the hardest thing is they giveyou an offer and if you're like, if that's a first offer, maybeI don't get another one. What should I do, you know, andthey're asking you right there take it or leave it? You absolutely yeah.CUMAN puls is sometimes if you don't take it, it's good, it's gone. So that has to be nerve. Ranking absolutely yeah, and I washoping that wouldn't be the case and we ended up getting offers from all five, so it was. It was a good turn out for us. That'spretty good. Now we're how are you guys doing it? You guys explodinglike you think you should? Yeah, but yeah, for sure. Itbrought a ton of momentum to the product. Really, at the time we haveone bottle, one size. That was it. It was nothing.It was a side hustle. We went on the show. I had eightyzeroin sales. Within one year we did an update. Within one year wehad we had over three million that came in and really grew the products fromone bottle to I think we have ten different variations now with the bottle andthen with that we have different patterns, colors, and so we have probablyover a hundreds kills at this point. How much interaction do you have witha Rod and Cuban? Do they still check in occasionally or you are callsprobably with them as that. What's that all out of? Yeah, theylike to see the monthly financials, so I got some those over. Butno, really, humans build out this whole team. He has this wholeteam of he has over a hundred shark game companies that he's invested in.so He's built up a team over the years to help out all these companies. So what's cool about him is his whole networks huge. I can callup one of his guys at any time and they kind of all specialize insomething else. So if I need help with one thing, I call oneguy, something else called another guy, but it's worked out well. Theyalso connect me with all their other brands. So if, for instance, anothercompany called nuts and more, they do these spreads with with proteins themand they sell do with similar demographics, well, right away they're going toconnect me with these guys. We're going to see what they're doing. Youknow, how we can benefit from them, but also how they can benefit fromus. We might do a couple collaborations, send out email blast orgiveaway together, stuff like that, and so it's just all about connecting,networking and then giving help and advice, and that's what's been huge for usbringing stuff to the table immediately, like...

...like GNC. Immediately went national withGNC, and then also still sitting on the phone and negotiating the contracts withme these big companies. The verbiage and everything they put in a contract iscrazy and when you haven't done it before, you know you're just giving away thehouse and they're on the phone saying, Hey, by the way, youknow, we negotiated with you guys and we're in with five of thebrands. You know we're not. We're not doing that this time, oryou know we're not taking that. You know we're not doing these kind ofdeals. are terms so really good and helpful of actually have them on yourside for big contracts like that? Yeah, I just saw were you did adeal with Ruth Chris, steak counts, right. Yeah, so we yeah, we have all kinds of companies coming in. We're able to personalizeeach and every bottle. So we have a bunch of big companies coming in. We have a Cardi come buy a bunch of bottles companies like Ruth Chris. Today I woke up at four am and we're doing a company called actionequipment and just a big company out of Florida that bought a bunch of bottlesjust for all the employees and customer gifts. So really cool that our bottle isn'tjust we're not just the Shaker bottle. It's really a bottle for everything,and then we have tumblers and other cups as well. So getting aton of big companies coming in just saying hey, we're looking for something that'shigh quality, good customer service, fast turnaround time and also has a storybehind it, because people today they want to tell a story as well.They're not just going to buy a no name knockoff product or buy from acompany that I've ever heard of before. They'd rather support someone that they standbehind, that they like in that they know and trust. Yeah, Ilike the fact that you can use it from multiple things. Like if youthink of a protein shake bottle, you're thinking of it just for protein andworking out. You guys have shown that you yours is versatile. You canput whatever you want in it and you know it's going to last year allday. Dave, I think you should get one just because that's like oneof your favorite things every time you're with Davis he's got his little Yetti.You're yetting, but it's kind of way. It's just it's just hiding what yourwhat's in there. We can't when you can't see inside. It's thethere's a little secret it. Let's charmed to the whole thing. You know. So what you got in there? Well, there's all the it justdepends on the hour of the day and the day of the week. Itvaries. But yeah, bad sometimes. Also, could also make drinks inhere too. It sounds like. Yeah, I know, that's the best thingabout it. You can use it for all kind of stuff. Theworst thing is that those old cocktail shakers you can't get the lid off andthere, I'll tell yeah, it's a pain. Is just like here.It's like the beginner version of the cocktail Shaker, but it also floats inthe pool to so ready good part. It's ready for perfect easy cleaning,easy cleaning, everything, everything. No, I think it's I've a friend thathas one I don't like. I told you my my Yeti is alot of miles on it, but I think it's time to upgrade. Ithink this kind of upgrade, Chris, so, one of the last thingswe do here on the show. We really appreciate you coming on and talkingwith us today about your life and everything that happened to it, and Ilike to think that the crisp back that grew up in buffalo really didn't thinkabout where his life was going to lead and all the transitions you had.And that's really what our shows about, that you might start somewhere in sportsreally helped you become who you are today, but you have no idea and Ithink one of the biggest things about sports is that it teaches you toget back up. You know, you've had injuries, you've been on differentteams, you've gone from Maryland to Arizona, all these things, and you hadto build your brand and it's amazing to hear your story of how youbuilt your brand and it's something that your parents taught you, everything that youlearned from a kid, and it's just an amazing story and we appreciate youcoming on with us. One of the last things we do we do atwo minute drill where we blast a bunch of questions at you and we're goingto power down the field and and put it in the end zone here.So Day, once you fire away with the no't all right, Chris.If you could trade places one person in the world for one day, deador alive, who would that be? Oh, I'm going with the Rock, I guess. Imagine his daily routine. It's something just like not for amlift in working out, hopefully as an eye shaker. I mean begreat to save rock with an eye shaker. Hey, rob gave him one.Oh Nice, maybe that with them. I don't know what happened to it, but he gave him one. I don't know, like you seeall that stuff that he's in. I don't know how he does so muchlike he's everywhere. I'll let you know, man, once we switch places.There you go. If you could be a commissioner for one of theLeague's, NFL and HL, NBA, whatever, for a day again,what would you what would you change? Oh Man, I'm change in thenew past interference rule. I'm getting rid of it already. It's already killingthe game. Horrible. Yeah, and that drove me a watch one preseasongame. I'm already mad about it.

Yeah, every single place pass interference. I mean you got to play the game and if you if you slowit down every plays there's going to be some kind of past interference involved.So I hated that rule when it came out and it's going to last oneyear, it's going to be gone. Yeah, I was watching the preseasonSan Diego New Orleans yesterday and the running back cut the ball. He gavethe I don't know if it was a d back or linebacker, stiff farmjust up under the GIN. It's called a face mask penalty on them.I don't like. How do you even play a game anymore at that pastiner ferens? One's brutal, though, and it's all coming from one play, one call. To me, it should have been in that game.There should be a rule where the rest can huddle up as as a groupand for like ten seconds to say hey, man, told lot time out.You blew that call. Let's huddle up for a second and let's reverseit. And that's really what should happened in that playoff game, not awhole new rule that came out of it that's going to absolutely kill the gameis slow down. Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. AllRight, so you've been an athlete, you're in business, you're an owner. Now what's your biggest pet? Peeve, Oh man, biggest pet peeve,man, just just people that know how to do something but they justknow they have to ask first. Like that drives me insane as a businessowner. Anyone that only runs a business you know, you know how it'sdone, but they they have to come and ask for kind of just approvalfor something that you can just go and get done. That drives me insaying just just get things done. This Day and age, just get itdone. Just do it, and that's kind of how I built my business, that's how I done everything was it was figured out on your own right. I like that. I like that. Um, if you could go backand tell a younger version of yourself one thing, what would that be? Man, I would just say and have confidence in yourself growing up andkind of the situation I was thrown into with Maryland, where it was kindof like hey, here's the offer, because your grades, You all yourbrothers Yo this and he's killing it. So it's kind of like you neverreally had confidence in yourself until I got to that level. So my biggestthing with anyone and once you have that confidence you're just so much better.All right, so they're going to make a movie of the girl cowskis.Who's going to play you? Man, I don't know. Better be abase though. Yeah, I sound like maybe the rock might play you.I'll take that all day. I like it. I like it. Howabout your favorite sports movie? My favorite sports movie? Oh Man, that'sthat's happy Gilmore for sure. Oh yeah, that's a hard that's a great one. Then, just tamping in, Dave, what about your favorite?You of a bar. You have a bass are so let's see. Butwe didn't really go to the bars that much, but rob was a bartender, or he was a he was a bouncer for a while at this there'sa sushi place there for a little bit. Oh yeah, yeah, it's calledFuku. Yeah, I was. I was talking to my friends abouta month ago about that. I don't think it exists anymore, but itout there. It had like the highest like the o. They were talkingto other bar owners. Surprisingly the massive amount of money went through there.Now I don't know if what was going on, but it was one ofthe highest revenue places in the Old City. But you'd never know. You'd neverknow that roll, you know, like, yeah, like it was. It was a big time barb but kind of like. It wasn't likea dirt bags for example. You know. Yeah, yeah, no, itwas run a university and rob was there. He was he was thebouncer when he was hurt. So we would just go in and it waswe could do whatever we wanted. So that was my favorite. So youguys do a lot of stuff as a family, I'm sure, you andyour brothers and your parents. So where do you guys like to go tohang out? Man, we usually end up in Miami or or really workfor the trip rings it. So a lot of times, you know,we were just had to ask be's in La so we're all going to come, we're all going to meet up, we're all going to have a goodtime. So stuff like the ASPS pre party, where usually it's not thatfun. Yeah, we go and we turn it up and everyone's stance andhaving a good time. So I usually, yeah, usually ends up in oneof the big cities for in a big event, and is how we'vebeen doing it lately. So you, I'm sure you guys you already gotyour party plan for Miami. We yeah. So, so we're actually it's goingto be called the Grock Beach Party. Oh God, it's going to be. Yeah, it's going to be crazy, Dave. That's where we'rethat's what we're working out. It hasn't been hasn't been launched. Ye,are released yet, but the grown yeah, we'll come on, having a beachparty on Saturday before the game. They'll be a lot of ice shakers. They're better be next better be the next morning, filled with a lotof you know, Bloody Mary's, all that kind of stuff, getting peoplethrough. Oh, yeah, now, but really, Hey, we reallyappreciate you coming on. Will let you...

...know when it's all gets come comesout. We it was a great huddle with you today and I can't waitto tell your story and share with our fans and and really help you promoteeye shaker. We don't need any help from us, but I mean,you guys are doing such a great job and I wish you all the bestof luck. Hey, we want to thank you for joining us today onhowd up with guests, where we talked to a wide range of guests abouthow supports shaped to life. As always, I'm joined by my great friend andCo host, Dave Hagar, and we want you to be able tofollow us on all of our social media at huddle up with gusts and wereally appreciate you and thank you for your time and listening to our podcast.

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