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Brian Michael Cooper

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Brian Michael Cooper is president of the XFL football team in Houston, The Houston Roughnecks. We are excited for one season to end and another to begin. The XFL will do a great job of continuing Americas passion for football. Let's get in the Huddle with Brian and find out more!!! Cooper, who most recently served as a partner in the Houston and Denver offices of Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard & Smith LLP and as a member of the firm’s Entertainment, Media and Sports Practice, will be responsible for the team's fan engagement and business operations, including ticket sales, corporate partnerships, marketing, content, communications, community relations, and the game day experience.   Before returning to his law practice in 2017 at Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard & Smith, he served as Director of Sports Programming for DISH Network. Cooper served as Senior Associate Athletic Director at Rice University from 2010-2013, and as President of the Rio Grande Valley Vipers from 2008-2010. The Vipers are the NBA G-League affiliate of the Houston Rockets.  Before joining the Vipers, Cooper spent six years as an attorney at Haynes Boone LLP in Houston from 2002-2008, where he worked on matters for the Harris County Sports and Convention Corporation. For his work in Houston sports, he received the Outstanding Service Award from the Houston Bar Association’s Entertainment and Sports Law Section in 2009 and 2012, along with the HBA ESL Chairman’s Award in 2014.  Cooper began his legal career at Proskauer LLP in New York, where his clients included the NBA, NHL, ATP, and MLS.  A graduate of Cornell University, the Harvard Kennedy School, and Columbia Law School, Cooper has served on the boards of Texas Accountants and Lawyers for the Arts and Interfaith Ministries of Greater Houston.  An avid runner, he also has completed five New York City Marathons and two Houston Aramco Half Marathons.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to our podcast Hoddl up withGus, where we talk to guess about how sports helpd shape their life. I'm yourhost former ANFL quarterback Gusfrat and I'm joined by my longtime friendand coast, Dave Hager. We are a RADIOCOM original podcast and you canfind us on the new RADIOCOM, APP or anywhere. You listen to your favoritepodcast. Now, let's get in the huddle, hello, everyone! Another episode ofHuddle up with Guss I'm joined by my good friend, a Dave Fo, and today ourshow is sponsored by the Western Bonaventure Hotel Out in beautiful La.So, if you want to go stay somewhere, go stay out in La at the WestenBonaventure Hotel. Today, Dave our guest is Brian Michael Cooper. He's thepresident of the Houston rough necks, which is the new XFL team and Hene. Ithink it's going to be a lot of fun to watch, because the last time the xflwas on. They did some some really exciting things to football that a lotof us weren't used to. I was a big xfl fan in its first version, and so Ican't wait for this yeah. So we're going to dig into briant's pass alittle bit but joining us today in the Huddle Brian Michael Cooper, so brianthanks for joining us. Thank you thanks Gus. Thank you for aving me appreciateit. Yes, so so Brian Really Looking back at your past, where you grew up,give us a little bit of your background of where your gop grew up and whereyou're from so I was born and raised in Evansville Indiana border tail right on t e WorderofKentucky went to Memorial High School inEvansville, and then you know my parents still live in Evansville. Youknow it's a great town, it's a wonderful people there. I Guess Sai, myparents have live bettheir entire lives and I think it's s us just it's awonderful place, CAS a wondermle place to grow up and be part of things there.It's. I always fell it's in the middle of just about everything. It's abouttwo hours, south of Minnianapolis, about two hours, north of Nashville.You know Cincinnatis to the east and St Louiss to the West, so it made for somegreat young experiences. For me, as a kid growing up getting to go over andsee a lot of sports it with a short drive to Mein those places right sogrowing up for you there. What was it like? What was whatdo you go back to? What was that first sports experience that you had that youreally remember and say man? This was why I love what I do a couple of them.You know like I'm a I am a lifelong Chicago bears fan and it was part o because I grew up inEvansville Y, I'm old enough to remember the St Louis Cardinals forfootball, and so my dad would take me over to St Louis and generally thebears and the cardinals will play a preseason game, and I just remember asa small kid seeing Walter Payton and then I distinctly remember the firsttime I got to go up to soldier field, and that was it I mean I just you knowI was seven years old. I walked in. I remember everything about it. Iremember you know, just the you know walking into the you know the oldcolinades, the you know, just the feeling of the being in the stadium.You know this late, seventy, so the pairs weren't that good, but obviouslythey had Walter Peyton and I just became a huge paiden fan and it wasjust you know. I love struck ever since then, forty years later you know thet,you know it. Doesn't it doesn't go away? So did you play other sport? Did youplay football grown up? I playd football going up. I playd football andAran track in high school and love football that play starte playingfootball playe flag football as a young kid you know through about the fourthgrade, and then I moved to tackle football and always love football againtried to emulate. Payton Ding Tho spin moves trying to do the dive over the Hu,the you know the over the over the scrum and I was actually quarterback. Iwasn't a great one, but I played quarterback through through high schooland then I ws played at Cornnell and I will say, playup. Ut plays in very in very beg thats when I got to Cornell. They have ot sixof us there and I was so proficientla...

...quarterback. They move me right to tailback and se e, like Yeahyou TN Al. Let's Seecan, you know your troublewhen hi like whell. Can you run? You know like like yeah sure, I'L C? Dothat? So I could do that. But I love I mean always you know I love sports as akid growing up, but just all the h things about it. I remember my firstNBA game. You know I'm a big Pacers Fan and I u basketball, and it's just youknow it's a great thing growing up in Indiana we had Tho, you know it was. Itwas the time where you had the you know. The great thing about you know:Basketball is obviously huge in Indiana and when I, in his kid growing up, westill have a single tournament single high school tournament, which I youknow I think is it's just amazing. My cousin got toplay in the tournament. Maybe two tourament an Scott Skyles I've. Never Idon't forget that experience either ebout to market square. Everybody takeshe caravan up there. The team his team was like thirty, two and o they go upto the to state was. I think I was in sixth grade Yo know: Skyles is playing for plymothand you know he tears it up. We, my cousin's team, lost to GaryRoosevilt at the Buzzer on Layin, and it's just you know all thatentire season going through regionals and semistate and state, and you get upthere. N Theres is four teams in the entire state playing for the statetitle Ind. So really you know I get why they moved out to the you know theymoved to a you know the the sing the class system, but before then it wasjust. It was just amazing to have that kind of tournament with all thoseschools and they coinate with four of them. It just was really incredibleexperience and that's one thing. I definitely remember as a kid is, thatis eneanestate high school basketball ttourne. I Scott Skyles is my all time.Favorite College player- Really Oh yeah, wint oard at Michigan State Yeah. Hewas just s R noway he's got to be behind your other all time, favorite,Arizona, Wat, I Steve curicordb Arizona, Grad their brand, but yeah. U, but totskyles no look passes and all that he o was noml even as a high school or Ann'tgoing to fighting was, I think you know he just ye looked at him, you're likeOh Kno, yeah, it's just amazing N. I mean you know this and I think theschool Pumet, I think, wasn't a relatively large school and I thinkthey won the whole thing. An the the end of beating Gerry was Abelt in thisfinals, like cousin with he eavens, wile Bossy, and so I think that they, Ithink they ended up beating Gary Roosevelt, the TOA Er and it was yeahit was. It was amazing what about like in the neighborhood there had to betons of pickup basketball games in your neighborhood and stuff like that therwere, I think you know I was you know. Football is really my sport. I wish Iwas better in basketball. You know coming Ren EAD. I think it was alwayswas Al tways difficult. I wish I would have been better as a kid at Baskmoll,but I did love it, but yeah there was there. Was that? U Ow the pick upfootball games as well in the backyard. I think it's you K, ow. Those werethose were the great things as well, so it was a lot of a lot of really coolstuff there. Well, what do you think you take from from that when you'regrowing up like because we talk about this all time with, with almost all ofour guests talk about growing up and you had your neighborhood and you wentout, there were no parents, there were no coaches, there were no referees andyou had to learn to deal with each other and you had to learn to battlethrough all these different situations. What do you would you take it from itwhen you're growing at's and that's a great analogy, because that's really ityou had to you know one. You know you. You had kind of a sense of making surethat you know the you know you, everyone played together and likethere's, obviously going to be disputes an he disagreements and there arealways some really phenominal ones. I had A. I had a basketball, my dad bout,a basketball court in my backyard, when I was you know, I guess maybe eight ornine, and so we kind of wear the location for those games, and so youget kind of the trash talking and you know and everybody coming together, butat the same time you're right there wasn't. You know everybody kind ofselfpoleaced themselves and I think we all kind of had a sense of like look.You know it's not OINGTA. You know it won't be fun. If we spend an hour ortwo arguing back and forth, let's just go ahead and get it and I think thething was you know it's going to regulate itself out. You know, I wouldsay ifeixis its like the best maritocrasy right. It's Goin of youknow. You Know Ike we're not going to...

...know somebody's, not Goin, get shortchanged in the pickup game because ultimately we'r he going to win andwe're going to come back and get it and or just motivates us to do better, andI think kids just kind of had that metality. Then, where was like lookwe're, you know we'll argue for a few minutes, but we're not going to dwellon it and we're just going to go ahead and play, and I think with that thatthat does sort you know it gets you thinking about. You know, sent you forlife right like there's, going to be adversity, ultimately up to wordthrough it and all and need to get to that next Gol and you're Gonnto want todo it. Ou just can't get bogged down and continue debate over things right.No, I agree with that. So you did you. When did you start running track? Imean because sometimes Fi Ian, I ran track in freshman year in high school.I started running track. I reand and I read more distance run. I did eighthundred meter and four hundred Andi sixteen by four by four. I guess theSixteen Hundred Rela. So that was your really your first experience of whenyou were freshman in high school. Yes, yes, yeah, and it was kind of like Ijust dilike the Handeye Coordination for Baseball High School, an incrediblystrong baseball team- and you know I kind of gravitated towardtrack and field bcue. I thought you know this will be something I can doand I can- and I actually enenjoyed it it was. It was. Definitely, I think thetrack season was a completely different feel from football season. You're Yknow you're running more. I was running more long distance. You know I waitfluctuated. You know I dropped weight during the spring. I enjoyed it a lot. I think it was a and it was. It was good to kind ofstart. You know, building up that something new and building an enduranceto run. I love. The eight hundred I've always felt. Eight hundred was one ofthe greatest races in sports, because it's kind of that hat that milliary ofit's- it's not y know. It's not a real long distance rate, it's not all otspreat like thefour hundred, but the strategy involved. There is, you know,theres speed, there's pacing, there's getting you know it's! It brings a lotof it'si thought it was the best of both worlds. In my opinion, well,there's a lot of strategy in it too. Right I mean I mean I because you gotit's a sprint. Yet it's some endurance too appy your you know, Youre less. Twohundred I mean you're kind of you know. You won Youryou jocking for positionbecause it starts out. Everybod's got to kind of merge and then you kind ofyou kind of get a sense of where you're going to be as you're as you're runningand then yeah you kind of you're saving your energy and then all of a sudden.You get that all hat spring. Last two DRE and fifty ants it's. I thought I was one of my was I likerace. I love Wirin, th N. sixteen by four meehe run was I mean lev runningthe for before as well. Did you so never wanted to do hurdles? No! No! I'mtoo short I was to. I was too short too clumsy that would have just been. Youknow that, could I would have been a disaster for me o I would have you know my parents hadpaid a lot for my braces exited. I can Eso ruin them on on the front ofa hurdle would not have been good like if there's an obstacle, I'm going tofind it. You know, I'm always I've never been the most graceful individualand I always I always joke. We go hiking orsomething and there's like a stream and there's like you know, there's lae kindof that that you know the log to walk. You know the walk across and t e'm likeeverybody's. Like oh come on, I go like YIP IT Slip Right, I'm going in thewater, it's justges thats is how it is yeah. I'm going to be I'm going to bethe entertainment for everybody today, so so yeah. I never thought about thehurtles. Were your teams pretty good in high school? Not Too bad? I mean, Ithink I you know I was you know I like I was. I was middling, I think ourtrack team. We Weren, we were 't powerhouse tracting. We were good. Wewere good, we're better in long distance running. You know it. Therewere other schools in the city that did Benerin various events, but we were bad.We were bad a I just enjoyed it. I jenjoyed running, you know I didn itwasn't something I would have definitely not done cletally. I wasnowhere prepared to do that so, but it was so. It was still a lot offun. How do you feel about multiple sport athletes? That's a great question.No, so I spent time at Rice as a senior AD and- and you know by the time I gotthere and I was about you know. Ten years ago I mean players had stoppedyou doing it. I really think it's a great thing. You know you see a lot ofkids now they don't do it right. They...

...be playing baseball, Ian Play, fall,baseball, football, R, spring and so forth. I would like to see you know,you know, I think it's great for them to be able to have that. Have that ability to do a couple sports,O I've missed the fact th T, I think many students now don't do it. So Iwould love to see it more. I think it's great to have one. You get differentexperiences. I man Eo, my my football season was completely different, fro mytrack season and think it was. I think there wer I took. I took something fromboth of them, and so I liked it yeah. No, I agree. I played three in highschool. We actually had a guest on. Was it sally that did that she playedsix six yeah Sally Jenkins she's, a writer hit? WAS IT Christine Brendon? Ican't remember which one I think I think sally she's from Ohio. She PlayedSix sports in high school. That's amazing! Pree season. I love you knowthere were kids of who did they could double up and would play? You know, hasadditinal sports even in the same season. I didn't think Ha. was thattalented to do that, but I think you know I would love to you know it wasn't for to me it was lack oftalent. It wasn't for lack of desire. If I could play baseball and run track.I mean as a kid I love baseball. I mean I really I loved it and I think thefiny thing was. I think I stopped really following it as much because Ifelt like I you know I wasn't good at it and I stopped caring about it asmuch as I got kind of a higher levely, Bab, Ruth and pony and I' You know Iwould you know I could not hit a curve ball to save my life, which whichknocked me out completely. You know out of Mani, Uppor, Loelli op, so at thatpoint I stopped kind of following it, which was alsouly a little bit.Disappoint O me because I just felt like I wasn't with it, but as a kid Ilove playing all those sports and even now I love watching my daughter. Sheplays Yo. Now she plays lith cross and soccer, and you know and being able tosee her playtos I wanter to play multiple sports. Will you a cub fanthem? No, so I was a Detroit tie. I was and still as a Detroit Tigers Pan andthat's because the evansville triplets in the s played in Evansville rightposte. That was the Detroit Tigers, tripl a team. So I got to see you knowyou think about the eighty four tigers. They all kind of come through trip, AyEvansville. So as a kid as a small kid in the S we go to bossy field, you know,bosty field probably held two thousand seats and mean I don't know how Evans Ohad a triple ateam man, but they did and t was really kind of a glorioustime. For then Tey have a triple a team and the triplets were great and you know as a kid right you want to fin.Well, where are these guys going? Oh they're, going to Detroit, you knowwell that will become my favorite team and- and I'm just about that time,right that they got as I was. You know I really loved baseball. The Tigerstarted, getting good sparpinerson took oover, earlys and then Ei four team. Soyou know that that just kind of cemented it and then obviously Wev hadyou know between my bears and the Tigers. We have not too many title. sents,unfortunately well Dave and are pirate fans you talk about like your firstgame, you went to the bears. My first game was a pirate game and you knowfilling out the score card, and- and you know when you go in and you get tofollow the game, do all that I was hooked ever since then I've been apirates fin in our last wet. Since what season I doN'tno, I very trying Tho Brian it is iti'm soslir from last season, so its new one started yeah a these pirates teams toman, I think ti mean like they a some heartbreakers like all like yeah. Wecould. You know we could go an hour, just the subsoppin of of Tigers andpirates Y, I'm so pissed. It said bream scored from second Ba. I do I bring upse bre, I mn. How that happen. The guy was a saues player in Major League base.Well, the bonds throw it was like a whiffle ball t like whach is it took aeight seconds in the Aran Sam like but yeah? It was very that's that's by. Ithink, my single worst that worts moment. That's, probably why he starteddoing a little extracurricular activity, so he CAK FMLIEO yeah arm it up a so. You go on so ou graduate highschool, an IFELL. How did you pick...

...cornell so I had started. You know. Ireally thought you know. Obviously like I was. I knew at you know: Ulsomate ThaI was academics were Gon Na need my we gin to me my Sui. I mean I love sports,but I was also realistic, but I did want to continue to cun in up. I couldto play and it wasn't didn't certainly a bi corn ou for that reason, but wetoured colleges on the east coast. Some friends of mine had suggested it acouple years earlier and I got up to school and I just fell alop with thecampus I went. I was joked a went to see. Cornel in I went in July, which was you know.That's the right time to go: SI cornells an I'm stay New York, it'sJuly right! It's you know it's! Eighty five, it's beautiful like you know thecornels t's got all the you know the plaintations and the flowers and Walthat it was awesome. I just Fol, I love with the campus and just it was greatand then four months later, when I was waking upthinking or to a year R, four months later, I was you know our first snow inOctober and I was like wow it's October, whereat's o that's now state. So, butnow I loved, I love Cornell et still do itto. Just a was a wonderful place.I've beet, my wife there. You know it's always feel. Like you know, Loike,that's! You know, that's the greatest takeaway from my college, education aswell! So, but that's how I eded up there I went up there visited and just fellmop with the campus n s where I wanted to go with cordols lik name Dave. Inotice it's Te Red Nickam, all right, so youryou always really good at th, I'mgood at like two hundred eighty other schools Jiican. You know what it'sfunny when you were before. You asked me that I was trying to think of thenickname I go. I hope this doesn't come up. So od is but you're like your, likemy go to Di for Nicklao. Let me okay. So what is what is the Maskof? was INixi t'sa big, ret Ashot is a bear. The MAGOT is a bear. Yeah we, the IVS teend,to have the you know, Darmiss the big green harvards Crimpson, so they've gotyou know we tend to stick with the colors, I guess in the aggees, but yeah.That's that's yeah, we're the big red. So so what years were you at Cornell? Iwas there from eighty eight to ninety two. Like I graduated a little bitearlier, I actually spent my last year in school, my senior over I England atOxford. I wina broad there, and that was a lot of fun. So I graduated inJanuary ninety two semester early and and stayed. I was an Oxford for my lastyear of myseen year, so I left I left in ninety one and then went to schoolin England for that last year, Wut graduated so out of all the Ivy Leaguestadiums which one was like was your favorite to play. Well, I gotto go withshelkoff initially, but I would say a close second, probably Yale Bowl andthen and then Franklin Field Franklin field is just amazing. I mean it'sreally kind of cool to see. You see those schools and you think about thehistory Mik Franklin field. When you put in in a l championship there I meanit's, I meanis Hese, amazing old stadiums, but probably Franklin field was reallygreat as well. Yale bow was it's just t massive right and it's just it just its seems like expanse for so I like that as well. I think those are probably the two, thetwo that that I really liked the most so braan. What was your first job outof Wenc? You graduated what it's? I guess you Wen to Oxfordn and I guessafter Oxford, soat Roxbor. I thought I was going to go inthe government, so Ispent M my my years in an interning I intern forWilliam Gray Sophomore Year in college. He was a majority whip at the time andthen I entered for Ted Kennedy the following year and then I thought I wasgoing in to go. Itho government, and so I went my first job out of school wasto go back to work for Congressman in Indiana. I worked in his Washington DCoffice. Name is Frank mcclosky and I work for him for about a year until Iwent to Grad School, and so that was I...

...was, is legilative assistant y handledVars, you know items o mad made next to nothing. You know, lived live with likethree ofthe guys out in Virginia a littlepartmeer. You know, unfortunately,you know three guys in the R aly is obviously wed. Probably give you betteran hygiene as wose Ono. You think yourself, like wow. I cannot believethat was Ouo. What we were doing so it was it was. It was good, though, was agreat experience, though I really enjoyed it. What are those hours likewhen you're when you're doing it? They were amazing? I mean you're young right,so you just you know: You're young, your own capital, Hill you'll, doanything right so youl. You know they were blon right. You get there atseventhirty eight in the morning, Theyre Genua tilten eleven at night,and you know when you're twenty one. Twenty two, you know it's just you knowyou kind of like he's, got kind of a drilling flow and you know what theresyou know. I had nothing else to do BUDG terily. So I was working. You knowworking or coming back and it was. It was a lot of fun. Frank was a great guy,really good congressman. We had a district that was, it was Ritol. I it was right on theCUSI mean politic society. It was, you know they go democratic, go Republican,ind, frank was kind of right there. It was just one of those again in that youknow not to lax on about life now, but it was kind of those things wherepeople just kind of they all work together and frank was kind of likethat guy he was Hehad been marrired N, Bloomington Indiana. It was just areally really nice guy and- and he was a really good congressman- you knowjust it was good guy. He was he passed awayabout twenty years ago, Valet stay and play on your next, get away to LosAngeles, the western Bondeventure Hotel and suits offers efforliss access toall the city of angels has to offer whether you're hoping to catch aconcert or sporting event. Our hotels just moments away from all the actionand accessible to Hollywood, beaches, museums and theme parks. The packageincludes a guest room and valet parking for reservations, use promocode PSF inthe codebox when making your online reservation or call one two UN, threesix, two four one thousand and as for Promo Code, PS, F yeah. So so you do that! Do? U? Do youguys get like some tickets on the side? They say: Hey Ore, U we know, you're,not making any money go, go, see the bthe. You know who's it. The bulletwell, et's let' te Skins, who else would be tats? CAAL redskins tickets rea little bit harder to come Bin and early, not anymore, not anymore. Back then yeah little bit difficult,but definitely more pullets games at the time you hav pretty wizards andoriels. I went to a lot of oriols games and campin yards had just open at thatmoment, and so that was a lot of fun. You know he tooke the train off toBaltimore and that was they just opend Camden Yars I've seen a couple F gamesin obemorial stadium. When they open came in yards, it was just was like arevelation right. It was, they were W. everything was just you know, is GreatAd, a boot Pol barbecue and you know- and it was I mean all th was just kindof like it was now obviously rerecreate those stadiumsyou know going forward, but back then it was just kind of like wow. Okay.This isn't one of those cookie cutter stame is: Has Imperfect, had that oldschool field to it it was really nice and you could you know we'd Sittin ayou know, he's sitting there ou in the outfield, and I mean Ou, just it was areally. It was Thathell E. I don't remember many of my sporting events inDC. I do remember going to Oriols Games yeah yeah. It has like. I think it waslike one of the first ones that put like t e, the brick factory wall. You know what Imean. They really try to orprate into the city and everything Y and is reallyand I've been there and I've had boogpow barbecue as well. I've alwaysloved your I, its like one of my favorite players, he's beasswhat's thatI'm a big foody. So that's why I remember, like you know my my Traino,my traide of memory, thought is always back to you know like the restaurantwas there. So I did that's. My first impression was like Oh yeah. Barbecuewas out scanning. So what was your...

...restaurant? You guys used to havefrequent in DC, so prak like cou go this place called he doubliner and IVwas still open, but they used to have like these Al, these great hamburgers,and he used to canef these yard beers, which probably you know didn't you knowit didn't. It didn't help the Diet, but that was a great tro like Wi offCapitol Hill, at least a love er places near. I think it's still ike. We couldturn around here Bu. I think I was the UMUNION station. It was a gool place.Well, I don't know when's the last time you've been back to DC, it's been awhile it's been a while, I'm gointo get back there. You know well, no. I guestactually DC's coming here to play us in the March twenty second. So, but but I'm looking for to getting backih've not been there in probably a couple of years, thatwhole area wherethe nationals play it's just amazing. What do they call it the shipyards orsomething like that, yeah it Thearea and that they rebuilt it? I do rememberenough when I was living in w in the late S, O Ni said there wasn't a lotover there and H. my understand is yeah they've built it. I have not. I havenot been the national's part scame. So then you go into Grad school where yougo to Grada School, so I started Grad School I went to Grad School, a thekindey school government f Harvard and so again I thought it was going in thegovernment in politics, and so I went to the Kennedy School and started thereand ID a did. A Joy I was I'd, been admitted to a joint degree programbetween the Kennedy, School and Columbia Law School. So I started atthe caundy school and then I was going to take my first year at Colombia thefollowing year, and so I would it's kind of a weird P. usually if you're going to dosomething like that, you do it the same school, you kind of SME Cotinuity. Iwas generally going to be going Tobe, Bei, basically going between twoschools, and it was great. I had great experiencees, but I was a little bitweird because I was kind of jumping between you know I' Benin, New York oneyear and I was in Cambridge one year, and so it's es the continuity wasn'tthere. But but you know I enjoyed both experiences and so yeah I started Gininschool and the went to Colummia, nothing like Avan, hi, hundave, he's he's Covereng Ivy, Leaguetho, yeah.Well, OK, rerty Wa! You knowandthnwe keep having these thes ily guys on. Weneed some guys moreour levels. Yeahi went to university Arizona. I went toTulsa so yeah. What do you LOVALSOM aswhy Wa, coers Bot, Rice manall? Thereyou go so we're going to bring it up in a second, so, okay, so you get out ofGrad School. We do that. What was your next Woul d? You do next. So after thatI so around Grad school law school I really just kind of gravitated towardstowards law and in particular, going into like a Korean sports law. At thatpoint, so mid year, mid year, N my graduate training, I started reallythinking about. You know what I was going to go in the government or justgoing practicing law. I was able to do a couple things in Grad. School thetwere great. I did a project on. It was an a trust. It was ajoint law, School Grad School project on any trust law and y professor hadasked me what I really was interested in. You know what really was by apassionate baues and Ye. I'm really passionate about sports. I Havn'treally given sports much wat thought after ID stopped playing. I justfigured you know it was just you know is usually ow players or coaching, andI wasn't going to really do either of those an. I didn't think that you kno.I thought that even on like going into kind of the industry was it just didn'tseem like that was that was a path. Tet Start working on the project, and Ireally liked it did well on it and then I an the Kinney school they put Goin.What's not as a policy anousis exercise Y, my pae was on midnight basketball,which in e early S it's very interesting social project. Where theyhad kids come in, you know like Ni kind of keep them off. The streets, havebasketball, basketball, leagues, and so my project was to evaluate the the efficacy of midnight basketball and Idid it for the NBA, and so at that point I started thinking about you know.Maybe this is something I can look at. I started thinking about meushing thosetwo together law and Sports, and I started focusing on that and you knowthe great thing about sports laws as afarm in New York called Proscour rosewhere something is now just proscare. But the time when I was when I wasthere was Proscaa rose gets an...

Middleson, I think they've sincetruncated. It proscaur, but David starn an been a partner there, Gary Betmanand be partner there, and you know, I kind of and hey had vidoa represent theNBA and I was portiuone enough to get a clerkship there and et nows me a fulltime job there, and so that was that was F. my first experience at lawschool was to go to Proscar and I got to do some really cool stuff. I got towork on NBA cases, American T, ATP, tennis, Tour Nhl, amajor leag soccer. I worked on big. Any trust. Major league soccer case CotFraser versus MLS, which was was grade, was the defense of the single intitytheory, which full circle, which is wow lxfl, as structured now as a singleengty. So I ave some really cool experience. There hit was my firstfirst job. First law job out of out of law school was going to Proscar, so welere you were you ever going toget in, or maybe were forgive me f him wrong on this become a sports attorney.So that's like a agent like so soolsmlly. Yes, I been talking with friends aboutrepresenting players. You know for a while, and ultimately we started tomake that move over. To that. I left my. I love Proscour O to venture out to do to representplayers. I was ter about three years and I did that a lot harder than it looks. It wasreally funny. I aways still pose a said. You know we were just nug and arrogantand idiotic enough to think ho ARD. Could this be and it was real hard, butI love the experience I end up. Doing it for about ten years were Reprisein,mostly basketball players, and he kind of I mean I went back into privatepractice and it made up a component of my practice, but it was good and it waskind of good to get that big farm experience and then kind of move intodoing some of that stuff as well. So I did ultomely end up doing it, and Ilove that part of getting that experience because I told people now I said you know,there's kind of like the I think kind of the Romanisize Jerry McGuire type.You know then there's kind of like you know that was us right, which was youknow, making a phon cause driving six hours to meet people. I go it's a lotof work and in the players who were representing, you know, you know they work so hard. You knowright. These are guys who aren't you know? They're, not you know, they'renot going to be first round picks right, theyre late rounderes are free agentsand they're going to workouts and they're crying and their. You knowtheir failing and they're trying again and it's O it's one compotto sports. Ithink a lot of people don't see they don't think about it as much. I onothink that a lot of these guys they have things h given to them and thinkwe don't get to see that back opponent and it's really fascinatend medately.So I'm so happy. I had the experience I mean I was never. You know I wasN'taLevelle Steinburg, but I enjoyed the clients I had in the people at workwith. I thought it was just a to me. It was it. I think it's hopefully helpedme be a better executive now, because I can kind of I know where these guyshave kind of come from that know the hard work they pun in and it's alwaysbeen good to me. So no that's great yeah, we've had least time burgonearlier in the year. He was a great interview and telling us his stories ofhow he startd t and who got ha in ut. So who was one of your clients that youhad? L I represented Josh King was one of my first client he's a player out ofout of Rhode Island. I mean a lot of the guysI had you know they had small cups of coffee, an an went overseas, not onothit. No, I really. No, I major, but Josh was great. I think he still. Westill keep in touch, and I just you know auges I enjoyed you, know those those moments as welland I got to kind of move into. As I got into my practice, I started movinginto representing companies on deals as opposed to players which to me was alsomuch more exciting and I, like that's Takin yything with players, butcertainly less stress to be able to represent player repisent a company anda sponsoro deal then tryig to write playeron. So where was your office, soI officed so I first office in so moving forward a little bit on thetimeline. This is around two thousand...

...two thousand and two I lie Lefe. Thisis byt he time. I also left New York to move to Houston, and so I moved down mywife and I moved to Houston in two thousand and two and I joined a firmlot. Forman Huston go Haines and boom. So in there at this point I moved toHouston and we were living in the Moodlands, which is about Twenty MileTwenty five miles forth: East whre. We still live, and then I was obviousl indowntown in Houston at Ainsan Moon Downtown. U A couple blocks from myoffice here. So what's your wife's name and what does she do so jackeline? Asmy wife's name, we met like as we met in college. Jackie is a real estate,executive and Intorney, so she we managed a number of residentialproperties and Jackie does Jackie works, she's she's really she's the brains ofthe operation. She makes all that she makes it allwork, and so we've she's. She is, you, know, CFO, you know, general counsil ofour cour or our family corporation and she's awesome. She we've been married,will be the'LL, be twenty two years in June. I came, I gotta Kick My CoverageYeah Well Mine, twenty five years next week February. First, is that next week,or we have afternet Yese Week, Super Bowl, we Lome in Miami right before theXFL dayats right. My aer is my daughter's birthdays feduary secondRownhog Day Sandl and she's, a yeah she'll be fifteen fifteen on the secondso and she started to count down on the car with sure itis coming davs kids are right. There,yeah yeah, I her junor an sophomore in high school once driving right yeah.What was that like for you when she started driving like re nervous, I'm still just getting over thatexperience? Yeah it was, but I, my kids, all drive back from college and I waiteup for him like I'll get home at one in the morning, and I can't go to sleepuntil they're home. Well. The problem with here is now. I grew up in Arizona.So like ice wasn't a factor and stuff so driving was, you know, there's justdust and stuff, it wasn't yeah. But here now we just had a lot of ice overthe weekend. That's I'm going okay! This is your first tac she's, prettygood appelella parking, but now she's got it well. The first time we met youliterally hit black ice and wreck Yor WITYAVEA GP. I still have like a Ren.She let me borrow one time I actualy was pain, my yeah, that was a onethousand nine hundred and ninety. Yes, a long time ago, yeah going to DrGoing to Gussis House, so I hit black ice and smashed into his neighbor'stree yeah, but didn't have any money. So I just kept my hood bent for welived in great falls, Virginia so kind of there's a lot of woods outthere, little single lane roads all that stuff, and so I remember Dave wascoming over because he met his wife there and and and her his wife and mywife are best friends, and so he was coming over and then next thing youknow he wrecked and we're going to y trying to figure out how to help day.If you Lomin your wrench Jut Siin a been the hood that Yeah ExactyaDidntynso, how did you get the race so a couple jobs il so I first was atwash in the dealing so fast forward a couple more years, two thousand andeight. I am so practicing law, but I've got about. I've got a decent sportspractice now, where I'm representing companies on sponsorship deals an I'mnegotiating on their behalf on Yo. U Know the number of kind of productofferings and whatnot and late two mid. Two Thousand and eight Iget a call from a friend he said: Look the hers a ther's, a NBA dleague teamin real Grand Valle, Texas. Looking for a team President- and I know you'R E-You know you look in Maye jump back into he executive sides its somethingto be interested in I sai yeah, so I met with the League. I put togetherkind of an idea of wher. I wanted to know. I friends of mine, I said, lookthin. I probably be looking for a minor league baseball president. So youc needto explain why you know coming from law how you can help e team and puttogether kind of a proposal for the team outline Gond of my ojectives. WhenI went wat, I saw the team doing went down that league liked it sent it downo their ownership group ownership group...

...lake tid called me down there and asfate would havpen my wife and every year they they go on this cruise, mywife, a all my aunts, my motherinlaw, they all go in Thi. They goin thisnight cruiser trip Oer to Europe and yhe've done it like every year, and sothey were on the trip. While this was going on, and so these things werestarting to woe pretty fast and I went down the reo gram valley met with theowners loved it. They love the idea and yo e offered me a job right in in thereand I'm like well, I got my wife y last out of the country. I need to kind oftill her if that IM calling her like e, what's happening, go well. EO Job team in Ro, gram, valley, Texas,and I think I an take it- you know I think it's gin exciting and it's so he's like. Well, okay, I'm, like youknow so. Thankfully we got brought. She got back. We both dode down there. Sheloved it to and we did it Andso. You know a month and a half later, I'm youknow, I'm introduced as a president of the Vipers George Gurvan actually wasour director of basketball operations at the time, and you know he was at thepress conference and it was just great heas he's just a great guy and yeah.What is George, like anm, very cool, Great Golfer. I Love Golf, but I a I'mnot a good golfer and he's a really good Golfer, and so, but he's a reallyNice Guy, really wonderful guy and he was Ho couldn't have been more helpfuland so we had. We did that and I sad already you know down there anand we had about three months. Still he tipped off was the second year of theteam. We had a lot of challenges, a lot of things that we had to kind of gethad a new owdership group and come in in year to, and we just kind of we had to getthings going and it was a lot. It was a lot of work, but a lot of fun and enjoyed my time in the valley and sotex. Two Years I was, we rebuilt, the team ended up winning we did a we did,what's known as the hybrit agreement was the first time an NBA team hadinvested in a NBA deliague team of ther rockets became our single affiliate andwe built it just like it isn't made in baseball where it was local ownershipgroup, but you had an affiliation, a single affiliation with a parent team.We did that with the rockets and it just it was it couldn't have been abetter their situation. They came in revambed, our player personnel side endup winning a championship in two twusand and ten, and that's that wasjust. It was just an amazing experience for me. I love the people down thereand love the valley, and I was doing a lot of communting that I still had myhowsome Houston an I was kind of moving back and forth from so ultimately, Ricealten ended up at race because I came back into the city and was able to kindit was able to to Jkenno was just about to start kindergarten and I justcide totake a job at Riceis or senior athletic director and senior Soseli director andjust you know again also rice was just a wonderful experience. I loved it so Dave, and I have a friend who youmay know as well Kevin Rabbit bill slightly. I'm not I'm mabe, not as much as I probably should.Thetyn O ring a bill, but I don't necessariy Nohim as well. Probably S Ishould I know Kevin played there played basketball thereand then is, I think, he's on the board. There too he'se guys a lot of stuff. Hedoes a lot where helps with hirings and all that stuff he's been there for howlong day be thinking. I don't know, I mean o awful long. DIFFENT HE'S A he's:a CEO of NEP, okay, Awso name, sous familiar, but I don't knowif well I men Awas, her o Tonn, wo thousand Ndthirteen, probably shouldknow him. Soyou know Bett. You probably met thim. When I want to ask him aViper's question o who is the best vipers player when you're with thevipers? That's a tough one man. I will. I love them all. I will say this: Theone that probably struck with stay woutd me the most was my caris Mike was Great Rice. Al Fo, Rial Ik was hisnatural leader was the twenty ten you...

...know NVP. I remember. After the firstgame we had a really strong team, a great coach Chris Fanch who's, nowassistant, hit coach in the new New Orleans and first game that right, OT, big bat. Wegot blown out wer up in Austin playing the Austin at the time their tourl wasnow spurs and after the game, I think it to back to back games up there andafter the first game he came out apologized and then he had a player'sonly meeting and I was wow and then they end up. You know the that,whatever they did hit right of the ship, we tey were eleven and two out the gate,and then we ended up going forty and eighteen when the title and Mike washe's one of those guys who was just you know he can e kind of move back andforth between NBA. You know Dlegue, but he he was just amazing, and so I thinkhe's probably one that really struck with me. You know in the time I wasthere. I just thought he was you know, and still I jill maintain contact withhim and he's just a good guy, just a really good Guy Ho Tha. I want. I gotagain all of them. I thought you know Chris, so keeping Douchac Chris andhe's doing. I fully anticipate that Chris Fanch will be head coaching, Enba,someday and he's Gonto a D he's one titles wherever he's been and he's alsojust a penoical coach as well yeah, that's awesome! So so then you go to Rice, you get done with Rice,and so what was your last year race, so rase Thir, two thousand and thirteen,and I taught there as well. So I taught a Ou know. I had gi of sports finance sportsecon classther, which I loved. I love my time at Rice. Ultimately, I ended up. I got a Imoved on to dish network and was director rspoite programming there, andso so did tat move to Colorado for a few years. anolugimately went back intoprivate practice, but I love my time in Colorado. Denver is definitely aninteresting place to be a little bit cooler than Houston. Imean coldergin and temperature wize we're very cool here in Houstons, butler didhe. Where did YOU LIVE IN COL IN DENVER? He started out. We lookeng alittle Ti and then we knew that to Porson and I Morrison was awesome. oYeah Wewe were we were within. We could see red rocks from our house,we couldn't hear it. We alwas Deven therea a concert going on and I lovemusic. So you know going out to going over to red, rocks and seeing you knowwalking around there IV. Just you know blown away and you know being able tostep that I've been you so many great bands on playter Beatles played thereand Youdon you go in and see all that stuff is really cool, so Il you know welook near the foothills, and so it's you know it was you no. I was a big fan of t e snow byhet the mountains. We used to go hiking and doing ahat stuff and I you knowdinber in the summertime is jus out, scanding, oh, it is, and you and it'sso close because I lived in Lon tree when I played for the Broncos and youcould just literally get in the car- go like thirty, five maths and Yeah Yourehiking these incredible trails and mountains and there's no betterexercise and you know, and then you got a kid in your back and you're like man.This is crazytis. Is that's a lot of work? Yeah I mean it's really amazing.I think you know it's. You know. Your point is exactly I mean you could gofifteen twenty minutes from whet. We were were right there in. You knowright driving on seventy right in the mountains, and you know the teperaturedrops about ten fifteen degrees and it's it's really. I get I loved it inthe summer. I was not. You know, Llo, I friends and Comin, like those blizzards,not a big fan of it. You know they told us when we moved there. Hiy said youknow it's going to snow and then it's going to be wone. You know there's likethree hundred days of sunlight and Denver. So it's going to be it's goingto be. I think I lost one video. Are you still there yeah y here? Okay, you know three hundred days of sunlightwas you know, is there and an- and you saw it right, it was, you really didget WEU did see it snow ten, you know ten feet and then you know ten inchesgh and then and then all of a sudden it would k ow midday. It was gone yeah. It did happen that way, but I'm stillstill was a big pan in the snow yeah. I always liked it, but I did MissPennsylvania because Colorado was more...

...like where we lived in denvers. MoreBrown, like you know what I mean like ther, want a lot of trees and hardwoods,and all that and like Pennsylvania, really has a lot of that low humiditythere Toooh Yeah Ver Right, Oh man, very much so yeah every yeah we had awor lotion every day, yeah, that's yeah, not so much in Houston. New Year, Ye eopposite actwhen. You GT O the plane. You know whereyou are you know so thenyou've had an amazing life already you've had all these incredible jobsand then how does the Houston job get presented to you? Who Calls you? Howdoes that work? So I was on spring break with my family and March Midmarch, this wo thousandand nineteen. I got a call from a recruiter and he said a you know:Someone's recommended you for Osition. You know CEPTL team in Houston,looking for Ar President and we started chatting we talke for about an hour. Iloved everything saying e talked on my thankfully I was on vacasion with afamily and talked to him about it and Ab ut. Two weeks later I wasinterviewing a Stamford and you know just you know I just you know I've beenfollowing what the league had been doing. I felt like this was going to be.You know a great experience, the fact that they Biswi man and Hart Oliver lockas. Thecommissioner. I thought was US an incredible move. I thought that thatwas, you know really a game changer. I think Oliveris incredibly wellrespected in the sporcsworld, and I think when I think people sat up whenthat happened. They were like you know what this is going to be. Very a goodthing is so just like everything I heard about it and you know I'v. Youknow eight months later, we're you know it's just been. It's pusis been great,so I think I'm just so happy to be here in Houston. Building a football team inTexas, Valet stay and play in your next getaway, at Los Angeles, the Westernboneventure hotel, an sueits offers effortless access to all the city ofangels as to offer whether you're hoping to catch a concert or sportingevent or hotels, just moments from all the action. Ind accessible to Hollywood,beaches, museums and theme parks. The package includes a guest room and valetparking for reservations, use promocode PSF in the codebox when making youronline reservation or call one two hundred and three six, two four onethousand and assor promocode PSF. So what your first game? First, a Nagro,Gane new new whole new league. What is your expectations for your first game?What are you excited about? You know, I'm excited about. That's a greatquestion. I think my most excited about our ability to extend the footballcalendar, but also extend kind of access to games pro football to peoplewho may not necessarily have been able to access it. I think that's going tobe the biggest thing for me. It's I kind of hearkene back to my you know myseven year old self right, I'm I'm all about n w what I love about sports andeven as an executive. What I really enjoyed an my time with the vipers andeven at rice, was connecting with fans. You know people come out to a game, and so my excitement's going to bethose individuals coming into that stadium. Getting that same kind offeeling, hopeful that I got you know the smell smell, the stadium, the food,the hot dogs, the you know, the band all that stuff that goes into it, andI'm hoping I'm going to have that same experience for a young person to me. That's the excitement of havingsomebody coming there and having that first experience of seeing this playersand seeing a pro football game. If that you know up close and live, that's whatI'm excited about, and I think that we're going to really you know. I can'twait to see our fans have that experience, because I think that'sgoing to be to me. That's just what it's what it's all about! I just I love seeing people go to games and you know we do thingsthe right way right. Our Fan experience. If we do it the way we're supposed tothey leave that stadium with a likelong...

...memory right and and hopefully for most of it. It's likeyou know, that's one of those thing that they can hart back to d say Youknow. I went to the Brouth next game and I know K ow. It was suc so great,you know they become our brand and basdors as well. So that's to me isgoing to be the excitement component for us and I can't wait to see that wewee seen that some of our fan events where a've gotten tho meet fans andtalked about what they want, and that's the that to me. That's what it's allabout. I mean we don't if it's not about the fans,then it's you know it's it just it loses its lustere and I think that'swhat's going to be great, so go through some of the team dynamics like how manyguys are on the team. How many did you start with? Did you have to cut someguys like how did that all come about Sothe we drafted, we drafted seventyone players, I mean the obviously? U Billiong, a new league got a new TaAnne right after everybody, so sevny won game me in in October and JuneJones is or as our head coach Ranny Muler is our director player personneland junior randy of worked countless hours putting together. I think a greatyou know both their pedigrees, an incredible June. Coming from you know,from Hawaii's Gad coach and the fel cause it's head coach and he was he andMeus Davis created the running, shoet, offense and, and the S and y know JunesOne F. Those few coaches has coach two hall fame, quarterbacks and Jie Kellyand Morin moon and he's going no throw up some points to me. It's gonna begreat and Radyes. You know grebble career anether, fellows a Gomand, sothey've been putting a great team together. So we drafted seventy one inOctober they came into mini camp in December for about a week and a halfand some great practicees there, and then it just had training camp threeweeks here and all the xpfal teams were actually here in Houston for trainingcamps. That was really cool. We had a couple joint practices on with TampaBay apply named the vipers as well. O is one one name. I can't really forgetRi and we also played the eplay we hado joint practice in St Louis and then oneagainst going against La and so they're starting to narror down. The roster nowwell make that official early next week, but alsomeo roster will be forty, fiveactive and seven on the practice guas on fifty two total forty five that willdress for Gamegay. So if you had to look at a few things, that would becompletely different from what the NFL as doing what could you name a fewthings for our fans of what they should look for, be an alert for when they'vCome Out, and you know they watch these first sex OFPO Games. Absolutely no,and I try to kind of I really try to stay away from the comparisons betweenthe leagues. I'll tell you our you know about our xfl product with some of thecool things. I think we're doing two things that come to mind. I think thatare great. One is to kick off. We are WWe W, I think N Inten, both to makesure weve cut down on kind of the collision and also to engage. You knowplayers. The players will line up both on their on their thirty five yards.Apart on the thirty five, the kicker was still kickd from the thirty fivefot, the one the put the players will line up five yards apart and they don'tengage until the kid till the kick return catches the ball to me. I thinkthat's going to be it's to me. I think I will be surprised if that is notadopted by all levels of football in the next three or four years. I thinkit's a great. I think it's a great Meil between you know, recognizing thatyou want to cut down that. You know at that running start collision, but atthe same time you put bring the kick off back into the fold where you're notjust kicking the ball out of the indzone. You know just you know andthere's no runback. So that's a great one. I love the PATS, well Wewgo, sogoing back to the kickoff. So what about? Like in the NFL one of thethings is that used to be exciting, it's not so much anymore, but its whena team is trying to catch ut, the onside kick. What are you guys going tobe doing about that great question? An My y and my quickanswer is: I know that they're looking at it, but you know that may be. Youknow. That's probably an olver luck,...

...question that Brian Cooper question.They will go back to the coin tous in the Fort. I know inothey're looking at it, but Ithink that I think wat that so this kind of segues a little bit intowhether or not you know it gets into the WT. What you call it kind of acomeback period, 'll counter a little bit here and Pivit back to the point after because I think this. My answer to you question alittle bit more. One of the things we have in the XFL,that's great is is the fact that you can up for there's no kicking, there'sno kick pat. So instead, now you have three options. You can go for one pointat the two: You ca go over two points at the five or you can go for threepoints at the ten, so what it will allow you to do is if you know, ifyou're down seventeen point eighteen points, you have a a chance to comeback in with two scores. What also happens is the clock stops in the aftertwo minutes on every every plane? No matter what in Completel Paiangplinpast even a run, the Baldin has me reset the clock. WITL start, so youcan't just milk the clock n inside two minutes and you know to run out theclock it requires. You know it requires. You still run place so there's there'sa more robus comeback period, so kind of a more circular answer as to whathappens tin. The ors like kick, I think, someone, that's Goana, be obviated bythe by the by the comeback period in the thingsthat we're doing inside two minutes change the fill go at all I know, jolfielbell is the same yeah, so we had Morton Anderson on he was talkingmember. He was telling us about how he always thought that if it was a sixtyplus fill going before should be four points. You know because that's like itdoes, you know, like I know, they've, always kind of tinkered with thepotential four point: Shot and basketball. For example- and I meanhit's it you know it definitely. You know, I think the ideas we've got a aproduct in think Lik. You know, you know you want to make sure you, don'tyou don't get into W, you don't want it to be gimmickey right and I think don'thave that you want. I think what we've done. They work very hard. OliverJeffrey Pollik WHO's, president of the League, who's got background and boththe NFLN BA they've been working for two years on gauging fans and what theywant to see in football, and you know the fans want to see a faster game.They want to see. You know they want to see you know, so the Games going to bea little bit faster. It's running clock until he get to the two minute morning,so you took tout replay. Then no replays SI differente Ro se took outREPLAC. If you can do anything, get it out inbaseball, it shouldn't be in baseball welbut, it's a you know. I think we'reGOINGTO A faster game. I think the e, I think the things they've done, they'vedone to really one recognize hat. What fans want tosee? They want to see K Ow, they still a want to see football. You don't wantto get into stuation, waer ore deviating away from football, and Idon't you know we're not in this product. I I just think it's exciting.We have an overtime rule as well, where the teams will will basically kind ofthey will offset each other for five different possessions in the teamwho scores the most points. epted five posessions win the overtime, and that's it justit's one: possession from the five yard ine and that team will be that teamwill have a chance to score a touchdown. If they do, they will score point inovertime and then it will they will go back and forth or five times out, get alittle bit more. Like soccer and h penalty kick situation, I think it'sdesigned to kind of you don't have the long, touchdown longovertimes it you had in college. You know where you I remember in the lastYeaan Lsu and Texc and m played, and you know I think I fell asleep jurorthe game. I woke up. The game was still on and they were in the fourth overtime and Iti. This surs game was slong too, like I mean it's crazy, so all theother rules are same somotions gothave. To have so many guys on a Lontof scrimmage and at's ABACT. Everything else is exacty. We're not deviatingfrom you know the it's. You know it's when you see an xfl game, it's afootball game. I think there are things that we did when we gaged what fanswanted to see and wee we weresponding...

...to them, but it's at the end of the day.It's football. It's you know ar models, it's for the LEVOF football. We do notwant to deviate from what a fam was to see on the field. This is you know whenyou go to t e game. You're going to see you know it's, you know there'll be afew tweeks there here and there, but it is fundamental. In outi I like the ideathet pts the choices, an pe yeah. I like that too I'd Almisti mean to behonest, disappointing going for one I mean, as a fan, yeah booing in thefirst game right out there. Well, you know the old xfl gave us things intechnology that ASE that we SA COA yeah in football today. What, as far astechnology, goes, there's AI, there's ar there's virtual reality, there's allkind of stuff. What are you guys playing on doing not only from duringthe game and for the the fans that are watching, but also your fan experienceat the game so a little bit more there? I think I probably can't y? U Know,probably I can talk more about the fate experience and what we're going to dothat. I can probably actual technology, that's involved, but I think one thingI can promise you on what we're doing is regrinding more access. You know ourmodels fans above all, and so with that you know our goal is to provide ourfans with a you know. More access than they've had so you'll see you know,players will be interviewed. Maybe you know you may see players interview midgame, you know, for example, or you know, tithere's there's going to bethings where fans can can connect with the with the players, a oer personal level. Both you knowafter you know, before and after the game, W we're going to make sure. Ithink that what I've seen Wevnd I've gone, OOver, the city of Houston, withFan ofmens and the one thing that keeps coming up with the fans. Is They keepsaying you know we really want to be all you know we don't we we never feellike. I think. Sometimes we don't have that kind of access to get to meet andtalk to the players and engage what they're doing- and I think this leagueabove all is making sure that those fans have that kind of access. We had afan of it back in December or we bought. I brought a season ticket holders ontothe field and they got to meet the players and it was such a. It wasincredible many these people. Never U now never been on a field and never met.You know kind of had that kind of up close and personal feeling with a fan,and I think it was just one of those things that just it was amazing and soyou're going to see more that in the fan, experience is going to be muchmore of, I think you know getting back to the basis to football, but alsobring tha fan a lot closer to the game and so you're Goin to see that in thebroadcast- and you see that on the fiel I'm excited. So when is the first gameand Alidis Lik. Our first game is February eighth, Saturday February fouro'clock central we play the LA WILDCATS IN LA or in Houston in Houston. We areopening at home, so we are we're opening it home in and we play at TDECUstadium on the campus of ufh. So that is our first R first game, so veryexciting about like its about eighteen days. From now we're going to be we'reGOINGTO BE TI, kicking it off. Well, I'm excited to watch well one of thelast things we do here are we have a no hubdle segment. So that's our twominute tro. We fire some quick questions at you. Give us some quickalsers. We try to have some fun with e go ahead day. Okay, name! One thing youwish. You were better at Ma that probably probably coming upwith a coming up t comme up with a quick answer. I Guess Not Al Right. What what would you tellYoung Brian Michael Cooper? You K, that's a great Queshn. I wouldtell him. I would tell him that respect time, and I think that you know thatdon't take time for granding, I think we tend to kind of you know saysyouthwas waste on the young. I think we're so eager to get to the next step.We don't take time to kind of recognize t by the time we get there right. Welook back and I think you know enjoy the time you know recognize howprecious it is with family and friends, and I think that's whal. That's one of thethings I would tell younger Brian Cooper Day say: Hey, you know, makesure you keep the main thing. The main...

...thing, particularly with that all right Brian, if you could tradeplaces with anyone in the world for a day. Who would that be man? That's a that's a that's a greatquestion as well see. Is You goin to go sports orpolitical? I'M GON GO S, I was gonna, say Mecel Trebizsky,but I don't know if you know Wyou're real big bar fan in youmight HKSDOWN,so ow. I think I think I S, I think my thirteen year oldself would say youknow you know I want to trade. My trade place with the quarterback in Chicagobears, I think, but I think Vince mcnana or Jimmic Man,I'm sorry that he bi be lk. That's a greatgreatguy. I think that would be a great. I think Thatul Beiwould love to tradeplaces with him for Hi Jang. I think he's a creble businessman, so yes, thatwould be a great that would be a great great train, all right biggest petpeeve, the money Mori quarterback. It is mybiggest pet peeve coming. You know. I always tell I'v told my staff. This iswell, I said. Look you know, Yo got there's no bad idea. There's you knowthe only bad idea is when you don't raise it and then after we do something,and then you kind of come up and say yeah. I wish we had done this. That'smy biggest pet peeve. I got you how about an this is along the same lines,but worse Sports Clichet, I always say whet people say howcompetitive everyone is. It's like well yeah, if you're in the NFL you'recompetitive, Ou axept il you're competitive. You know that's it's sucha Miturea. Everyone always says it. It's like! Okay, that's a good! That's a good one aswell. You know you know, there's so many right, youow, take it taking onegame of the time Wellit's! It's those think what else you gong todo like we play every game. IGHT, no yeah! 'Vdo, all at once, all right. Sowhen Dave and I come to Houston WATC your rough next, what restaurant areyou going to send us to H see? So that's also a great question. Likethat's a that's Outthereare, a number of different. You know I'm going to bevery diplomatic here, because we have a number of good rests, good partners andthat's one of those you know mine feels that I could. I US name one O nameanother. I will tell you this Houston is the best there's three great foodgroups here Creo, you know the the East, Texas, Louisiana influence, Textmex andbarbecue, and you can't there's a number of restaurants here and youcannot go wrong with any of them, so I would at least stick with those threefood genres and Houston, and you will be very happy. I think I'm goingto gofor Barbecue. When I come down that's hard to bet the Houston bar. We don'thave good barbecue in Pittsburgh, so thats aat a little shaky right last one day: okay, Brian, ifyouere going to make a Mount Rushmore of Houston sports. Who would be thefour people? That's you know, so that's a great question. I think one of thethings I I T my personal belief from Houston is number thirty. Four sacred,so y Noa Ryan Earl Camel Akemaliane right, no ths, those three defit YetsoTha. I think those are three that we can all agree. I think Fordiv is goingto be. That's a that's a that's a tougher one for me on the fourth, you know last night, Rudy Te was hereand he did the you know he: U, he 'sn't Duckin into the hall of Fame Yo, nohe's no sportsall fame. I think world of him. I think he's just a phenomenal.Phenomenal was a phenomena for the you know for his coaching. You Know NeverUnderesto me the Hart of a champion and there's so many on that port. I guessI'm going to go to four a foura. I think the three Ar are the bestdefinites. I think. There's you know man, that's a that's a that's a that'sa a great great fourth! You know, there's so manyt people to pick from block. Maybe redy t you know coach Yeoman, I mean GuyLewis, Ol Elledan Hay, mamoses Malone, I mean I put Bun Bung silups yeah...

...blueiler yeah soutei mean there'sowthere'stis, really great wemight have to have more than one Mount Rushmoreyeah have to make a few for Yohouston, so big Yo know we're. I we doeverything big in Texas, so we probably have to have six or seven spots inHouston. Right yeah, you do everything oversight, so e Brian. It was awesomethanks for sharing your story with us and joining us here on Hutdo up withGuston, and we really appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thankso much all right. Do thanks. foring, take care of take care you to thanks.Thank so MOC.

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