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Best of the Huddle with Joe Namath!

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Happy Holidays from Gus Frerotte and everyone in the huddle! While we all celebrate a wonderful Holiday Season, we can’t wait for a new year of fabulous interviews with Gus and great players, authors, and other celebrities. Gus wanted to reprise one of his most popular interviews with none other than Joe Namath himself – Broadway Joe! – Easy Rider who made NFL history a zillion times in his playing years. Sit back, relax, enjoy the holidays and this very special Best of Huddle Up with Gus!

Hey everyone. Welcome to anotherepisode of hello up with Gus, I'm your host, former NFL quarterback GusFaraday and welcome to the new 16 31 digital news studio. You know, somepeople say no news is good news. Well I say to those people you've never read.16 31 digital news dot com. Go to 16 31 digital news dot com to get your latestnews, sports music and entertainment and maybe even listen to your favoritepodcast. Audio up with Gus. Check it out today at www. 16 31 digital newsdot com. Huddle up with Gus is brought to you by Vegas. Sports advantageclients of Vegas. Sports advantage are winning big in 2021 you can be a partof the winning two. As of june 1st $100. Bettors are up $3700 500 dollarsbetters are up $18,500 and $1000 betters are up $37,000 and $5000betters are up $185,000. Become a client today. By clicking the link inthe description below and use promo code. Huddle up To take 25% off yourpackage today. Thanks to our partnership. Welcome to what surely will be a doozyof a matchup right here. Sports fans, whether your game is on the gridiron atthe diamond or on the links, we can only say welcome to this week's huddle up withGus 15 year NFL quarterback GUS parents, passion for sports has taken him on theField and behind the bench is playing for seven NFL franchises With 114 TVunder his belt. Gus Known who the players are and how the games are one.It's not every day you get to hang out with an NFL quarterback up. Okay,sports fans from the decked out and plush 1631 Digital Studios, it'skickoff time. So snap your two straps on and get ready to huddle up with two left, right. Hey everyone, welcome to anotherepisode of huddle up with Gus, I'm your host, Gus for a 15 year NFL quarterbackand I want to welcome you to the huddle up with Gus podcast. Today we have aspecial guest and I can't wait to introduce them. But before we do that Iwant to thank all my friends out there and my sponsors. So I want to thank 1631 Digital News. I want to thank my team brian and terry. I want to thankSounder F. M. For always hosting us on their platform and putting us puttingour podcast up. They do a great job with new technologies to reallytranscribe everything that we're saying and put it out there for all of you toto watch, read, listen to whatever you want to do. And then lastly I want tothank um Vegas sports advantage. If you really want to win some cash, go toVegas sports advantage, you're gonna help you turn those bets into some realmoney. Use my code, huddle up and save 25% when you sign up, so go to Vegassports advantage and win some money. But today, this is a guy that um, thisis a player, this is a famous person that, you know, we kind of, we bothgrew up in Pittsburgh, he's just an incredible person, incredible player,so many stories, joe, I can't tell you how many things have been going throughmy mind since you said you would come on our show and I'd love to talk to youabout how we grew up similarly, you know, but joining me today, Super Bowlthree Champion all around, uh, just change the NFL and the A. F. L. And howthings happen. But joining me today, joe Namath joe, how are you doing? Iguess it's good to be with you, I'm doing well, six grandchildren, you know,and a couple of daughters and guys that they were all healthy. Yeah, you lookgreat, you look great, You look like you still wing it a little bit. Oh man,I wish I could. I've been having a little problem. I think I heard it atthe bowling alley with mine was at the racquetball court. Well, you know, whenyou get done, you want to stay in shape, right? And you hate just to run andlift and I was trying to play with my friends and I got on the racquetballcourt and the competitive stuff just comes out and I'm like, I want to beatthese guys bad and I swung and tore my rotator and oh yeah, but you know, Idon't know, it hasn't hurt my golf game, so I'm okay, well, I'm right on theedge of giving that sport up, playing the worst I've ever played in my life,and I haven't played actually for about six months now, so I don't know what'sworse, like throwing an interception or having a bad round of golf oninterception. Now we're dealing, we're dealing with the pain man, you know,you know, you know, oh yeah, we usually talk on the show about how we grew upand I know that you grew up in Beaver Falls, I mean, you have a long history,it's a Middletown, your parents were,...

...you know, your dad was a still guy, Youhave brothers and sisters, I mean that's how I was, I mean, I came from abig Catholic my dad had was one of 15 kids, right? There's nothing moreCatholic than that. He was a male guy too. He worked at PPG um and talk to mea little bit about how growing up in Beaver, like the friendships youstarted and then when you really started to fall in love with sports,wow, as early as I can remember falling in love with sports. I mean there waslike three buddies that one across the street this way, one across the streetthat way and the other and between the four of us that's all we did was playsome kind of ball, whether we're getting mom to sew up a pair of socks,an old pair of socks that we can hit with a broomstick or a stick and in thebackyard. I just love sports. I remember going up to the high schoolgames when I was a kid on a friday night with the gang man from the lowerend and uh I think I learned early on and watching that. Uh not only was itfun, but whenever you want, we were happy when we were competing atdifferent parts of town, the projects, which was just a little north of us andbeaver Falls and we'd go play them and uh life's a game, team game, you know,I've learned this through the years, gus uh we don't do much on our own, youknow, we work together and sports is a great teacher and you learn uh thatit's not all about you all the time, You know, you get humbled many times,you get knocked down a lot of times and uh hopefully with the right educationand folks pushing you to get back up and keep going. So I love westernpennsylvania man, you know, all about it too. Oh my gosh, you know, andpeople always ask me like what makes quarterbacks from P. A. So tough and Isaid, you know, for me it was my dad, my dad was just the toughest guy I'veever met, he was the youngest boy, he was the third youngest kid. He said, Iknow, you know, he was in the korean war, he goes, I never had a new pair ofshoes until I got to the army, you know, and and so I've seen that guy do crazythings like take a chainsaw across his hand and and just keep working and I'mlike, dad, you gotta go to the emergency room, he's like, ah we'll doit after I get done with the job, and I'm like, and so when I tell peoplewhat makes us tough, you know, our our parents and the people around us weretough, that's kind of how Pittsburgh is, you know, Gussie, you just bounced inmy brain here again, it starts at home life if we're lucky enough to havefolks around us, our environment, our family, the love and that can guide usin the right way. Uh we're very fortunate and uh I had a family of thatnature to I had friends that didn't quite have that kind of family when wewere growing up of it through life, I understand or have grown to know andbelieve that it starts at home most of the time and uh boy our families gaveus a lot of support. Yeah, you know, it was amazing that what what they didgive us and so I'm sure you played all three sports. You know, we didn't,growing up in Pittsburgh, we didn't have soccer and lacrosse and all that.We had football, Baseball and basketball. That's all I ever played.That's all I ever can remember. You know, Gus I tried hockey, I triedgetting on that ice too, but I failed out on that cock six a couple of timespill bonus and oh man, I can't do this. Uh and Pittsburgh didn't have aprofessional hockey team back then. We were growing up, uh, football,basketball and baseball, 23 seasons, man. And uh, as an athlete, uh, I lovemaking the transition into all of them. And there's not one of them that Idisliked. You know, I I loved all of them and football by the way, peopleover the years would ask me about my favorite sport and it didn't always go,I didn't go to football because I told him I don't like getting hit. I don'tlike getting knocked down. I don't like, you know baseball, I love manbasketball. I love this uh, football. We played it because we love thecompetition for sure. Well, I think it's it sounds like you were a lot likeme because I grew up half a mile from our football field in high school WhenI was a kid. I can remember, we'd sneak under the fence, so we didn't have topay for the ticket, which was like 75 cents or something. Right? We'd sneakunder the fence and go to the Friday night games and just the energy and thepeople that were there, there was nothing like it because the whole towncame. Yeah, You have defense. We had the fence that we climbed over insteadof sneaking under that old Geneva College, you know, we played in thefield that uh, Geneva had up there and...

...boy going through those friday nightgames. Man. I watched guys playing joe Walton. I don't know if you remember.Okay, well he was a great halfback and beaver falls and I watched him man whenI was a kid growing up and joe went on the pit and of course the pro ballbecame a coach, but I just marveled at these guys so they could play footballon friday nights. You know, we're watching him at halftime. Gus we'd goover behind the bleachers and play free for all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that was no pad,you know, but the guy that got the, the stone or whatever it was. Everybody ranafter him to tackle. Oh yeah. I mean, I just, I always tell people that growingup like we did and having a community like we did and where you played everysport, like I learned to play basketball. Not because I got coachedin it just because we went and did it. There was no rest. Nobody like youcalled your own files and and you kind of you were still friends after thegame. It was great. I mean I miss those days a lot. Yeah, well I knew Icouldn't play basketball when those guys from Pharrell and Sharon came downand you were falls man, a cat's cat's could playboy in Washington too. LittleWashington. Our basketball teams, we weren't as successful as well. Wewanted to be. But I loved the basketball was able to palm it probablyyoutube, you know, you guys whatever man. When you could palm and when youcould dunk front words and back words. One of the highlights of my sportinglife was in college between my junior and senior year. I got the dunk twohanded man. Yo yeah boy it was it was wonderful. I did dig basketball. Oh, itwas great. You know, back in the day the music be playing the cheerleadersand all the kids from school would be in there. And then we had the greatlittle gyms and you'd run down to the music and doing the lineup drill.Remember all that? That was like just so much fun. And then you got all your buddies havenicknames, you didn't call them by their real name. They all had nicknames.Yeah. And uh, I I remember it wasn't a real boy scout,but I went to join the boy scouts because the meetings were in the gymunder a church, you know, in the church basement. So we could play basketballright after the meetings and stuff. But I wasn't a real good scout. And uhsomehow I I didn't make the grade man, but we got to play it indoors duringthe wintertime a little bit. Yeah, you didn't get a lot of patches. You'resaying when you were in the boy scouts, you shot a lot of, a lot of free throwsprobably. Um you know, and and and the other thing joe is that we had tough coach is right. You had, Ithink it was your coach with coach Bruno, right? And we had in football,you know, my coach, it was my wife's dad and that's how I met my wife wasthrough him, but Uh there he was divorced from his wife and she livedwith her mom, so I really didn't know her, but he was one of, he coachedfootball for 42 years. We ran the wing t in high school and I never wentthrough harder practices in my life than I did in high school. It was justlike, and you, I mean, I think that's part of being tough to what what ourcoaches put us through and then they were mentors and I know your coachintroduced you into the Hall of Fame, which tell me a little bit about, well going back through the lifetime, youknow, I started with the home and how our family treated us and I can't putenough emphasis on what my high school coach larry Bruno brought to the tablewhen he came to Beaver Falls High school in my junior year. Uh CoachBruno, he was, he was terrific. Let's just put it that way and we won thechampionship. Senior coach Bruno was an all american football player himself ahalf half back at Geneva College and he ended up being selected to play in theeast west shrine game. Yeah man. And he was a magician too,you know, an amateur magician and stuff and that's how we got the ball handlingdown and the deception in the backfield. People used to think the quarterbackwould make the big faith, but we had a fullback named Bert cursed letter, wenton to Princeton and playboy Bert, He carried out, he didn't get a pocket uplike that and clamped down. I just don't know, but I still had the ball, Ijust tucked it in there and he's the one that sold the fake. A lot of peoplethink the quarterbacks are selling the face, but the running back and reallyyeah man. And then I go to out of high school coach Bruno, I get to go to meetand work play for coach paul bear Bryant at Alabama and I had never evenheard of coach Bryant before that I...

...watched Alabama play Penn state in theLiberty Bowl like 59 or 60 and I think Alabama lost seven or nothing but, butI like the way they played man and uh then I I so coach Bryant, what kind ofleadership that I was there under and discipline, you know, coach brought oncoach brian if you want to play ball, you gotta do the other things in lifefirst and measure up to how they want to do it and then gus I get in the proball and I got we've you Bank who has already won a championship in the NFLwas a paul brown pupil. I mean that the football and she's guys, I was so luckyto have those kind of coaches even had even had a coach lou Holtz there foralmost a full season. But what he did leave with me was he was a brilliantcoach. It just like coach Saban, maybe college football or pro sports was nottheir cup of tea, so to speak. And they go back to college and God, oh my, theyjust were wonderful. Yeah, I had I had Coach Saban as my coaching when Iplayed for the dolphins. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I'm not gonnasay anything but I understand what you mean, like the pros probably weren'tfor coach Saban but uh definitely college, you know, it was, it was alittle different uh story for him, obviously has been super successful,your alma mater. Uh but you know those coaches, like I looked up, we viewbanks, you know, and I started like thinking in my head, he looks just likemy high school coach and like all these memories came flying back of highschool and and what Harry did for us, Harry is a Hall of Fame coach inpennsylvania, You know, he coached many kids and uh you know, and we didn'thave a lot of athletes. I mean, I played football with 19 kids on my team,I don't know what it was like a Beaver Falls, but we didn't have like a crazyamount of athletes, but Man, everybody gave 100 well, we were lucky, you know,we had a little league team in Beaver Falls to, I mean, we'd go out and playchip a wall or Elwood City or someplace around there, but we were fortunatewith the adults that they loved football, man, you know, just Being 28miles from Pittsburgh and the Steelers, uh we were big fans of the Steelers andthe rooneys, of course, everyone, uh the family, yeah, you know, that wasthe thing too about growing up is that we didn't have a lot of channels, buteverybody on Sundays in the fall, we'd go play our football games in thewinter, um all of us, everybody from the whole town would come, we'd playfootball, but you had to be home by one to watch. That was always, that wasalways the thing, I tell people that all the time everybody would come andplay football and then we'd just Had to be home by 1:00. You have to be if youhad to go to church at eight after church, go home change football. Yeah,you just brought back in my mind's eye man, sitting there with my dad seeingbobby lane and the Detroit lines playing in Chicago and I would callpasa run like I knew what I was doing right and just feel watching them youknow? But we watched religiously every week man, Oh it was great. My so my dadwas one of 15 kids right Joe and and every Christmas it was like one day yougo to one brother or sister's house, the next day would be the next so youdidn't have people just coming in your house all the time. So I remember whenwe go to their house and I just sit in front of the tv and watch the gameright? I wouldn't even care like well my one uncle had a lot of trains so I'dgo look at all the trains he had in his basement, but then it was alwayswatching football, you know, and for me it was like dan files, all these guys,it was it was just football has always been in my blood, it was great. Beaver falls high school,Geneva College Pittsburgh Steelers man when it was football season we weretalking in it was wonderful. So I was pretty, you know when I started reading,I saw that you were thinking about Maryland as well. Like they recruitedyou pretty heavily. Yes, I really like Maryland. They had a coach there namedTom Nugent who had come in with an offense, he put the I formation and Ibelieve while he was at florida state and he was just a full of energy, Ireally liked him. It was close enough to home only 300 miles away that youknow, you could get that. And there was some western pennsylvania guys, They'retoo old, marty schottenheimer, God bless him, he left us too soon. But heand I recruited together, that's where...

I got to meet marty moe are Betina fromdowntown L equipment man. So I really like Maryland but I didn't measure upintelligence wise or college board scores, I messed up on the collegeboard scores, I wasn't sharp enough And coach Nugent I believe called coachBryant at Alabama and told him that I was still out there. Alabama had sentto coaches to beaver falls during our basketball season. Coach. Dude Hennessyand charlie Bradshaw was a coach that went on to be the head coach ofKentucky for a while too well. These two coaches came, they came to talk tome and it was in the afternoon before basketball game and gus I couldn'tunderstand them that they really had the southern bro, you know, and I'msaying, whoa, wait, first of all it's basketball season, I want to focus onthe basketball and so that's what transpired then. And then I was gettingrecruited by other schools and traveling around, I ended up signingwith five different universities. You could do that at the time as long asthey weren't in the same conference, right? So I I just didn't know I wantedto play baseball, I really wanted to play baseball Roberto Clemente man standing man,usual I saw stan the man one night step in the box and hit it out in the rightfield, force field hitting the home run. But then at the bottom of the inningthey'll long that came up and their long hair. It is eight straight gamehome run right after that. Yeah. My uncle joe used to take me up to thepirate games. Oh you got to go to Forbes Field. Oh yes yes yes I didthrow to you kid Mazeroski. It was such a thrill for me to meet Billy. Yeah.And play golf with Billy and one of those football players. Yeah. Yeah,they're tournaments. Yeah man. Oh yeah that would have been, that would havebeen a treat. I actually interned with the Pirates after my senior year incollege back in Three rivers when it was three rivers and I loved it. Like Igot to know everyone. I mean my dad used to fall asleep with a transistorradio on our glider on our porch listening to pirate games. Althoughyeah, I hear you? I could see myself sitting right there beside the radio,right there, beside the radio Milwaukee. And I think it was Elroy Face had aperfect game going Probably like 12 innings, 10 innings and the game endedup, I don't remember how it ended up sitting there just leaning against thatradio as close as you could be there too. So I wouldn't upset my mother whowas messing around working, not working. Oh yeah, game will be playing. He'd fall asleepon the glider because he just worked double or something, you know, and I'dcover him up and go to bed and he'd sleep out there all night. I was justthis kind of how we grew up, you know? And I, I just think like I was justresearching, you know, and thinking about where you grew up, where I grewup, how similar it was. Obviously I never won the championships. You did.Uh but I think it's just amazing like kids from this area all kind of weresimilar back in the day, like our dads were meal guys and and like if you werea kid that had any promise, you know, they didn't try to push you towards themeal. Like my dad, like most people went to PPG or Alger and I'm sure inyour town a lot of people were meant to go to the steel mill. Right? But if youhad some promise, the whole town kind of got around you, was that, did youfeel like that happened at Beaver Falls a little bit with you because you weresuch an incredible athlete. Oh yes, absolutely. And and Beaver Falls, youknow, the people, whether it's a ford city, whether it's been wherever otherplaces, man, they're, they're proud of their players, their town, they wantthem to win. Uh, yeah, they were for us all the time. And uh, when we evenmessed up off the field, sometimes the police force would say, hey, you know,you, you gotta behave yourself. You got a game coming up friday night, you know,at home. Well, I was more afraid to go home to my dad than the police. Yeah,we had a cold cellar, we had a cold cellar basement. Yeah. You're justpraying. Your mom didn't say anything to your dad. Oh please. Yes. Yeah.Because that wasn't good him working and coming home and have to take careof Youtube. But uh, you know, it's just those stories that pushed us throughand then you get to Alabama, I went to Tulsa in Oklahoma. So I'm thinking likeGod, you went too far away from home. I went far away from home where your town,your people couldn't come see you and,...

...and the media wasn't the same. You know,our games weren't televised, like probably your games like Alabama playedon national tv a lot, but that was probably a little different for you toexplain that transition a little bit Well, when I was a freshman in 61 inAlabama are varsity, won the National Championship. It was the first one.Coach Bryant had come to the university, I believe it was in 58 and it took hima couple of years to get things going. But the other thing about coach Bryantwhen he coached in Kentucky because he had to Western pennsylvaniaquarterbacks there, Vito, Babe Perelli and George blander coach Bryant, new western pennsylvania.He knew football there and I just got to believe that because of George andBabe. Coach Bryant took a chance on me and and coach Bryant also went toMaryland his first year out of the military to coach. But going in as afreshman at Alabama, these guys, they expected to win. I mean they were gonnawin. Coach Bryant was gonna teach us enough. He's gonna make us win. So we did uh man, my sophomore year,Gus huh, We were undefeated number one in the country would go over to Georgiatech and we end up losing over there 7-6. Then the next week we beat Auburn38, nothing. Then we beat Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl 17 nothing. And one ofthe things Coach Bryant coldest in our freshman meeting first class. He said,y'all, you're going to remember the losses more than you can remember thewins and he is right boy losses in that college career, just they were all, youknow, we're playing under center, we feel like that we didn't play our bestand had, we would have probably won all four of those games, I just playing allthe kickers for the game. Yeah, yeah, so like I could just imagine like whenI went to Oklahoma, I had a lot of guys from Western P A down there went toTulsa, right, we had a coach who was from Pittsburgh who recruited our area,so I felt at home a little bit and my accent wasn't so far off because therewere a lot of other people when you got to Alabama, I mean that draw down thereis way different than Pittsburgh. How long did it take for you to get used tothat? Oh, uh a good while, I mean, I keep trying to to listen and, and, andI didn't understand things. There was one player on our team who was atransfer from Heinz Junior College, he was a senior and when I was a freshmanand he was from philadelphia, South philadelphia and he was the oldestplayer on the team too. So he communicated to me pretty well. UhCoach Bryant, I think coach Bryant let the team know that uh this yankee orthese guys that they were still your yankee stuff man, you know, Oh yes, we,we got a lot of players with different attitudes on any team today you see. Soit wasn't comfortable to start out with uh and they let you know where theywere coming from but I gotta believe coach Bryant helped out big time withletting them know that this is about us now football and uh because he didcoach babe and and and so he was yeah yankee accent. Yeah we got another onecoming down. Yeah that was always tough. And then and then you go from Alabamawhich is you're on the national stage. I went from Tulsa but I go to D. C. Andyou go to new york like those to me I was like okay that's a city like newyork. The media is crazy, huge D. C. The post and everything. I mean it wassuch a different something that I wasn't used to and but I'm sure you hada little bit of that because you guys were winning all the time in Alabama.Well we we were winning but uh my first game as a sophomore gus we'replaying Georgia at home with the defending national champs And we winthe game 31 nothing in Birmingham. Yeah we get in the locker room and sittingbeside or I'm sitting beside him, our center and middle linebacker Leroyjordans. Great man and a great player boy if those guys come over and theystart talking to me and all of a sudden coach Bryant comes up walking behind me,pushing those guys out of the way. He said, get away from that popcorn kid,go talk to the guys that did the winning. And then I said, Leroy hit meright across the chest. They just, boom, you don't know him yet buddy. You don'tkeep quiet. I started to take offense a...

...little bit or defend myself, but man,we had, yeah, the, the media covered us of course. But coach Bryant was thereand, and we learned, um, I guess I never read about myself after collegeor whatever if I did, I snuck it and peak and, and uh, I learned that it waseither too good or too bad. Funky. And then, and, and when it was really bad,I said, what am I putting myself through here? I know how we did. I knowwe did. I know it did. So I just, I was lucky to not read about myself foryears to this time. You know, I appreciate the story that's donewhatever. And if my daughter gives it to me and says, look at this, I was agood one. But to keep myself sane and to keep my nervous system intact, Ilearned, I couldn't do that back. You know, from Cali john man, I, I justcouldn't do that because I beat myself up. Well you would because you feellike you played well and then all of a sudden some reporter comes out and saysyou didn't, you're like, what's he talking? You know what I mean? So yourealize that you can't take any, you can't put any stock into what otherpeople are saying. You have to look at yourself. Well, whether it was coachBryant or coach Bruno, whether one of the coaches said, look, if you readthat stuff, it's either too good or it's bad. He said, you know, don't,don't, don't, you never played that good or that well and you haven'tplayed that badly. So you know, don't do that. Don't follow that. We evaluatehow you played here with the team. Yeah, yeah. So hey, everyone, we're talkingwith joe Namath, uh, from the Jets and also played for the rams one year. Uh,we'll get into that a little bit, but joe, I appreciate you coming on. I, Iwant to thank you so much for sharing, taking some time and sharing your story.Um, hey, huddle up with Gus listenersmanscaped. They sent me, uh, they hooked me up with a bunch of tools andformulations for their package three point oh kit. So you know, I want toshow you guys what's in the perfect package, right? We all think we got aperfect package, but they sent me the perfect package, three point okay. AndI want to show you what they sent me. So it was crazy. It came in this greatbox. Um, you know, and you can see what it says, They will thank you becausethey sent us this awesome trimmer. They sent us uh you know, stuff that makesyou smell better and then, you know, they sent me this great uh some boxers,you know what you get right protect them. And then uh, you know, they sentme this cool sack, I guess you want to call it to store all your stuff in. Soit's been great. Manscaped sent me a bunch of products um you know, and youknow, you can see it all on here. Uh you know, you can go to Manscaped dotcom and put in the code. Uh Gus Frerotte, that's G U S F R E R O T Tget 20% off and free shipping when you use that code, but you can get a kit,you can get individual items like this way cool groomer that has a littleled light, um, ceramic. These things come apart, they're waterproof, you cando a lot with them. So, you know, Manscaped is great. You know, it'sfunny, I remember when I was playing with the Denver broncos and I'm notgoing to mention any names, but there was a gentleman who was playing on ourteam and you know, if he ever hears the story, you'll know exactly what I'mtalking about. But he brought his own clippers in one time and he used totrim his beard up his goatee and everything and he had them there forabout two or three weeks and he goes in around the corner, he walks in andthere's a person, another player that is actually manscaping with his beardtrimmer. So you know, one of the things is, you don't want to use the sametrimmer down there that you use up here. So he kind of freaked out a little bitand he said, hey, how long have you been using that tool there? And he said,well, showed up here about three weeks ago and I've been using it ever since,so you know, there is a lesson learned that, you know, don't leave things outand probably if it would have just said manscaped on it, we wouldn't have hadthat issue, but it's probably one of the funniest taking care of your ballstories I've ever heard or been around...

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...man. I'd be watching the Long Islandteams on television, you know, new york. Oh yeah, those yeah kids were greatlacrosse. Yeah. But it was just that thing about a guy with that, with thatsticking his hand being able to whack somebody the way jimmy Brown used toplay, you know, it's just well jimmy Brown's like you, he changed the rulesabout everything. Lacrosse. You know what I mean? Like he uh you know, hewould just run, he'd just put that stick on his chest and run throughpeople. My I always said if we would have had lacrosse growing up, it wouldhave been such a fun sport to play. You know, it was everything that we liked.It was baseball, football, Basketball, movement, passing, vision, hitting, youknow, it was all of it. Yeah. Well I was never real keen on the hitting partof getting here, I should say. Uh So when people ask me what my favoritesport was, I tell them baseball and I like basketball. Uh it's not football.I said, well I love football. I didn't like to get hit. Uh but football is atough game, tough, physically tough mentally. And uh well I'm like, you weall have knee issues and we have other injuries. Football takes its toll onyour body all the time. And you up when those rests weren't blowing thewhistles fast when you were getting hit, you know, the rules were different, nodoubt. You know, the gang is better today than ever. The athletes arebigger, stronger, faster and that's great. We've learned from yesteryear,just like these great coaches now, like Nick Saban, you know, he's learned fromthe coaches ahead of him. Uh Paul Brown's or whatever. He worked withBelichick two of Cleveland. You know these they go back in history andthey've learned from it. The Good Lord did a wonderful job with the animal. Weare, you know, physically mentally. But these bodies aren't designed to playthat sport. Yeah, I heard a story about like you had like such an innovativeknee surgery while you were playing, but you weren't quite under right andyou had to show him where your knee was hurting or something, where your bonespur was during the surgery. Well, actually coming out of it going in, Ididn't have a problem with the doctor. Nicholas knew where my problem was bymoving it around until you go inside and dr Nicholas mentioned this to atthe time until you go inside. You're not absolutely sure what your kid didwhere and uh we did the surgery when I woke up after the surgery got uh I hada cast on from my ankle to my thigh And standing next to my bed. Where was mythree brothers? My three older brothers and dr Nicholas was down at the end ofthe bed. Yeah and I said oh you know I'm glad to see my brothers but I'mstill a little bit foggy. Right dr Nicholas started about exercise, how wehad to start working on that quadricep muscle, how we get the legs strongagain. And I said yes yes and he takes my leg and he picks it up by the heeland he has my right knee in the air the right leg and he has deal. He said notjoe we're going to start now. Yes sir. So we're gonna start now. He said I'mgonna move my hand away from your heel and I want you to hold that leg upthere. Well guys uh my three older brotherswere standing there you know I had to really try man, I had to really try. Ifelt like that thing was bursting blowing up his hand away man I wasstruggling, I'm shaking, I held it up a little while there and then I couldn'thold it anymore But if my three brothers hadn't been there I wouldn'tlast that long. Oh that's that's funny. And you've played with I mean youplayed your career with a lot of injuries and I think in Super Bowlthree you played with a broken thumb? Is that right? Well it wasn't broken.We never did X ray effect. Well we didn't we didn't know what was wrong, do things he just didn't know it hurt.Yeah, I hadn't pulled back, I fell on it wrong but we didn't know the extentof it. I couldn't quite uh early on in a couple of weeks before. I couldn'tquite put the kind of pressure with the hand, you know, with the thumb. Maybeit would it would distract me, it would distract. And then in the game one timeI end up bumping the helmet and had to come off the field for playing Vitowent in there man, my man vito loved...

...him boy, he was a great teacher babePirelli boy. Yeah, yeah. So I I think that we've all been through that and all the struggles that we went throughgrowing up and you see our families, like you talk about it starts at homeand toughness that there are so many times when I would get hit and I'd belaying there and it would just hurt and I just think about my dad be like all Ihear in my head was get your ass up off the ground, right, that was what Iheard like and how it all started at home like we were talking about howmany, what was that like? When? Because I mean I know you played through a lotin your career, a lot of injuries and all that. What was that? Did you havethat voice in your head that was telling you that mm hmm. Starting withthe Good Lord. Yeah. Give me a chance to get back to get you to, to go at uh,I was very religious and still am. I knew I had to try, I knew I had to try.I didn't like the alternative. I wouldn't accept not doing it so tospeak. You know, some people have injuries where they don't have a choice.You you can't go on. But what I had with The knees and the hands shoulder,you know, three torn ligaments Picking up a middle linebacker on the six camefrom a 61 blitz up the middle man and just came clean and so I just relaxedand boy. First thing hit the ground with that right shoulder. That wasthree ligaments boy. But uh, we were lucky, I was lucky. I look at, Ifollowed your career guys. I don't know how man, I wouldn't have been able tomake the transitions. I don't think that you were able to make uh, see Idid play for chuck Knox with the Los Angeles rams and I loved chuck and hiswife Shirley man. I met him when he was a junior high basketball coach, pennsylvania. Yes, yes. And chuck. He went on ofcourse to become head coach in pro ball. But he was also the offensive linecoach of the new york Jets when they were recruiting me or talking playingfor him. So we had a few years together with the Jets and one of the thingsthat I, I was kind of felt bad about the chuck, he left us, he moved on to amore paying job, you know, a better job. I mean these guys weren't making a lotof money at all. Uh so chuck had moved right right after our third year, maybethe Buffalo and we got joe spencer, which was a heck of an offensive linecoach and we win the Super Bowl, the championship that year. So I wish chuckhad been a part of that, he was a part of it, but he just wasn't there at thattime. Yeah, well, you know, I think everybody moves on and that's thehardest part of sports, right, that you feel like. So like when I was inWashington, I had, my quarterback coach was cam Cameron and cam and I were justin sync everything I knew, like he taught me so well and I respected himso much and then he moved on to take a head coaching job somewhere else. Andyou feel like that, that it's probably like when you left, we've or when heretired, right, you lose that part and and you're trying to find it again.It's really hard to do. It is hard to do. And uh if it wereeasy anybody could do it, you know assignments in life and because it'shard doesn't mean we won't try to do it man. Yeah, that's true, that's true. SoI have a question from a friend of mine. His name is steve buck and steve hasbeen the voice of um Washington their basketball team. You know, it's beenthey've had a couple of names but I've known him since I played with theRedskins. So I was texting him the other day and tell them that you'regoing to come on. He said oh my God joe is like one of the only guys he'sinterviewed son, he knows all the guys sunny sam rigo who's a buddy of yours,He knows them all. So I said what would you ask joe? And he said can you askjoe for me where he got the confidence to guarantee that they would win thatSuper Bowl. That's what I always wanted to ask him. And so that's my that'ssteve buck hands down in D. C. Wanted to ask you that question. If you don'tthink you can, you won't. That was one of the first things coach Bryant toldus when we were what what what what are we gonna do? I was teed off actuallybut you know it didn't say anything because for two weeks guys, the media people were tellingeverything, you couldn't avoid seeing it or hearing it with links being ahigh number, you're an underdog like this and all. Ah and the guy again,this is in the Miami touchdown club banquet. I was receiving a thing. Theyrecognized me. I was down there with our immediate director frank ramos, Godbless him boy, he's still around man, but frank and I were down there and asI get up to the podium, a guy in the...

...back of the room yells out, hey name it,we're gonna kick your. And I said, whoa, wait a minute, we've been listening tothat for 23 weeks. I got news for you buddy, we're gonna win the game. Iguarantee it. And I was, I was at him, you know, it wasn't like, oh, I'mtelling the world that guy right there were, you know, and uh well that'sthat's that's that's whatever it came out and you can imagine gus uh what wasthe look on frank's face, Oh frank. I didn't look at frank, I didn't know,you know frank knew me well enough by that time though, this is my fourthyear again guys, I had a lot of li wei and education from the president of the jet team.Initially a fellow named Davide, Sonny Werblin now Mr Werblin. Yeah, he was inshow he was in a lot of businesses but he and the gentleman Lew Wasserman hadmusic corporation of America and had all these movie stars and everythingand and the government said you've got to break up that conglomerate, whatever.Well, Mr Werblin ended up Coming back to jerseys from Jersey and he's abrilliant man and they found out that Harry Wismer and the Titans were forsale for $1 million. So Mr Werblin, along with four other guys put up 200grand apiece and bought the Jets franchise. Mr Werblin literally saidstars sell tickets, I'm gonna help you, joe, you're gonnahelp us, this is it together, He would get me on the Tonight show, he would heknew johnny Carson, you know, Freddy de Cordova, he knew the the networkleaders wasn't old joe thinking of these things. You see Sonny Werblin andhow he handled me those first three years and take me around Manhattan, twodifferent restaurants, you know, the top spots introduced me to people likeConsidine, you know, these you guys and and he had more to do with that than Idid, I could play and I wanted to play, but I was naive, I was ignorant to whatreally he was doing with me, knowing that he's helping me and I didn'trealize it so much at the time, but I really learned to love the man and hiswife and uh Mr and mrs Werblin that they were the reason that I grew up innew york and winning, of course guys, you know, Yeah, that helps everything,right? Yes, absolutely. You went from, so Mr Werblin helped you go from BeaverFalls joe to broadway joe is what you're saying. Well there's no doubtabout it. Yes. Uh he again, if you think you can't, you won't and he left,he made things big, he got me opportunities and I got an educationthrough those opportunities, didn't do all of the things uh as well as I wouldhave liked to have done, but I did learn from them, so you know, we keeptrying to improve. Yeah, Yeah, exactly. And so he was a big, was he a big partof the merger of the A. F. L N. F L. Merger? Because I know that's likethere was a lot of like when you were going through that you were a fl andthen he'd go to the NFL and the NFL teams were giving you guys a lot offlack about, oh yeah, they're not real pros there in the NFL and then you guyscome out and smack them, you know what happened? Uh We had five owners withthe Jets. Mr Leon Hess uh was a wonderful man, he's not with us anymore.His son johnny is and his family, but doesn't own the Jets at this time, theyjohnny needed had to had to sell uh he was elected to sell. Um anyway Mr Hessand Mr Werblin had a disagreement and uh they got an envelope and put in whatthey had paid for the other guy share and Mr Hess outbid. Mr Werblin and MrWerblin wasn't an owner when we went into that fourth season and won thechallenge, but we were still together as friends and mr to Mr Hess would cometo the hospital, not just when I was in there, but when every player we had wasin there, he would go into the hospital visit with them, the hospital was onPark Avenue and that's where Mr Hess lived. It wasn't big, but it was awfulnice of that man to show every player on that team that he cared for them andtheir families, so that way it was cool. Yeah. So, you know, I think about likeevery you won a championship at every level and you and I was thinking aboutwhat my friend Rick Giusto said to me about how you broke barriers, you'rethe first guy to win a championship in...

...college and then go to the pros and wina championship and you won one in high school as well, like, there's not manypeople that can say those kind of things and then you broke so many otherbarriers in the NFL for future players, as far as pay goes, as far as, you know,like what you're talking about with Mr Werblin, like just being out there anddoing commercials and I think one of the biggest things I read about youthat I was so impressed with was that you were the first guy that a man, awoman, a child could idolize in sports, you know what I mean? Like it wasn'tjust one or the other, the other, it was everyone. And you did such atremendous job with all of that, you know, gus um, I can't take much creditfor any of that comes from home. First, our families taught us respect, respectpeople no matter where they're from, what color they are or what religionthey are, You treat people the way you want them to treat your own yourself.You know, you gotta have respect Coach Brown was a very respectful man. I sawhim go out of, it will go out of his way. It's just the way he was to helppeople and respect people of color to you see, and this is in the heart ofdixie at the time, which was a different world So well, the firstblack man didn't play in Alabama to what, 1970, I think something like that,I don't remember the exact year, but, but I think coach Bryant had the bigsaying all that, Oh yeah, absolutely. He had a big say and all that. He was,he was a strong man and he believed he had coached in the military as well andhe had coached at the University of Maryland, which was, I believeintegrated at the time, I'm not sure, but coach Bryant was around coachesthat had coached integrated teams. Uh, it was crazy, you know, going back andwe were talking about something now that we know is wow billy, it's archaic,you know, But having experienced, that was a great education and also evengoing into pro football, uh, you know, you gosh, you're on six teams or so, oryou know, maybe that was on to a pro ball, but we do know not every guy inthe locker room is on the same page every day with one another. And uh,there were times in the locker room where guys would get cranky or whateverand uh, you know, you try to be reasonable and if you just separate orsomething, you know, but work through it, we worked through it for the maingoal, it's us the team together. And I, I was fortunate again, starting at homewith the right attitude to this day, with the right attitude, man, God, theGood Lord's put a lot of us animals down here and it's your unhealthy forus to all get along together rather than fighting with one another. Well,you know, one of my things when I was in the locker room, I thought it was soimportant that all good teams started in the locker room, you know, we, weall had good coaches, we all had great athletes on our teams, but the lockerroom was key and I did things sometimes that, you know, I'd go to the coach andwe had, we had had offseason workouts and I'd say instead of today, can Itake all these guys and can we go do this team building thing together,right, we'd go play paintball or we do something like that, it made us allcloser and guys appreciated it and I also love playing pranks on people inthe locker room on guys, I knew that wasn't gonna kick my butt, but I lovedoing that in the locker room. Like when Morten Andersen came to umMinnesota and he was our kicker, I was the holder that year, I had to learnhow to hold for more than a left footed kicker Hall of Famer the first day he'sthere, it's freezing out, I take his clothes and I put him in a little thing,a bucket of warm water and I freeze him and I put him back in his locker whilehe's in his special teams meeting and then he comes out and they were allfrozen in his locker and he's like you know there's morton's been playingforever and he just yells my name across the locker room and it likebroke the ice because he was new and we've been friends ever since that andthen I came out from my meeting and my locker was completely empty and myclothes were all frozen over the goalpost outside. So from that point onwe were buddies but did you ever play any pranks on anybody in the lockerroom Ah boy, you know, being a quarterback and a smaller guy than mostof them. But being back to morton had to say what a wonderful character he is.Got to know him over the years just from getting together at these athleticevents and stuff and he is a trip boy. I just think, yeah, he was great nowand I think that, but like you said,...

...the locker room is so important and youknow, I was always, I love being in the locker room getting to work early,seeing these guys come in seeing their stories. We were all different. I wasmarried young, I had young kids, I'd bring them in, but it was justsomething about those are the things that you miss about playing the camaraderie, the getting along ornot getting along. It's an ongoing education, learning how to treatdifferent personalities or be treated from different personalities, life'sand ongoing education if you allow it to be. Yeah, no, I agree with that. Ilove that. I love the way you said that I'm going to remember that and use thatfrom now on. I appreciate that. Oh man, we live and learn, hopefully we keepgrowing, you know, hopefully. But uh, it's not a perfect world. Yeah, no,it's not last thing I want to ask you before we go here is that, you know, Iplayed football for 25 years straight through high school college and thepros, you played probably the same amount of time right from little, youknow, midgets hallway on up and then all of a sudden when you're done, it'sdone and we don't get that excitement, that experience anymore. How did youdeal with that? Because you had some really highs in football and then, youknow, so did, I was very lucky, very humbled for everything I got to do, butyou just never get to do that again. And sometimes I search for, how do Iget that back? You know, I was lucky enough to be around good people as Isaid, chuck Knox and he and Shirley uh, from Corey operas, pennsylvania by, uh,when I got out to the RAMs, I met a different set of people, so to speak. Ihad worked in a few movies prior to going out there and so that transitionout there, I met a couple of people and had a couple of new opportunities andso I took some risks. I wanted to learn some things voice teacher to this day.I remember my first musical that I did, I couldn't sing a lick, I don't knowfrom singing and to this day, like I could swing a little bit because ofwhat he taught me. So being on stage and always kind of feeling on stage asa Gemini when I'm on the field or whatever. I know I'm performing andthere's a side of me that knows I'm on stage and I'm performing with and forthe people and that's a kind of a pressure and it's, it's a thrill, youknow when we do it well it is great, we don't feel good about it, but we don't quit, we don't give up,you know, you go back after because you appreciate that opportunity and youenjoyed it, I enjoyed it so much. So I had a chance to exercise still being onthe field, whether it be the boards or in the theaters, you know, and thattest ah time to go out there, you know, the heart starts beating your backbehind curtains and then you know, you start getting excited and getting theadrenaline rush for several years in that area. It was a blessing and itwasn't because I thought about it, it was because someone else thought aboutit. I think it's so right, like it's an adrenaline rush, It's the butterfliesthat you missed before the game. The first snap, your understand, you knowwhat I mean? Like and you're playing a tough defense and you're like, oh man,this is gonna be a, you know, a heck of a game, you get the first snap or thefirst hit like those things like I think what you're saying is right, likeyou get to go out and you want to perform but like that you'll never, youknow what I mean, like sometimes you just want somebody to hit you and say,okay, I'm ready, let's go. We got that first game when I was a sophomorestarting against Georgia, we didn't score on the first drive or whatever.And I came over and I, I was nervous. I swear I have never been, I've neverfelt that kind of pressure before, nervousness, whatever leaving thelocker room going down the ramp man, my head was pounding, it hurt so bad. Iwas so tense. Every my head was pounding and we got down at the bottomof that runway and started to go on the field and the dad gum million dollarAlabama band started playing dixie. You're talking about getting fired upand going out there, you know? And when it, well the first quarter, I'm notplaying well and I come off the field and I'm throwing helmet down under,under the bench there and I sit down and coach Bryant comes over, he sitsdown beside me, he puts his hand up on the back of my neck here and he startssqueezing my neck. He said, boy, if you...

...ever come off the field like that again,I'm gonna kick your ass back to pennsylvania before you know it. And,and, and, and, and, and I turned and said, coach I'm not piste off at you oranybody else. I'm piste off of myself and he just looked at okay and he got up and left man, whoaboy. But that was the truth. I was frustrated. I was angry at myself man.And and uh again we went out there and and we won that game But uh boypressure it's fun. That's the adrenaline we get. And then when we have a chance to getfeedback that is literally people are smiling and join you will pleaseeverybody. We're never going to please everybody know you know but we'll giveit a shot right. Exactly exactly. So joe tell us what you're like whatcharity is what you're doing now if our fans can follow anything or donate toanything that you're doing. You know I've been living down here in southeastflorida for the same house for 31 years now. And I've been blessed with twodaughters that are healthy And they both have three Children. Uh They they have a 14 year old girl sixyear old boy and a two year old daughter. And Jessica and Ishwar have a10 year old daughter. Uh Four and a five he'll be five in september and aseven month old. And you want this whole last two years guys you know withthis covid stuff Jessica and those three grandchildren live next door tome. I've been lucky every day and I've been following the guidelines that theC. D. C. Has to say I I gotta believe what dr Fauci says and I want to. YeahI I believe that So I haven't been traveling. I've made one trip sinceDecember of 19. I left town once and one airplane ride. Since that'sprobably the first time. Like when, when's the last time you can say thatyou've done that. Like you probably now you've probably traveled so much inyour lifetime. It's probably good just to senior year in high school, you know,we got recruited then we started traveling and, and since that time onno, but uh december 8th of 19 man, I got back here to to home and hadn'ttraveled until uh this past july I believe it was this july when there wasa calming down before this delta, I had come up uh and I've been vaccinated andall. I was uh went up to present an award at the espys in new york, youknow, fly in, stayed in the hotel man and did end and guy Yeah, but they should have just usedthe hologram of you like at the Hall of Fame when you come out in the lockerroom. Oh yeah, my favorite things. I love, I, I go when I take people overbecause you know, we're in Pittsburgh, we're not that far and I said, yougotta see joe come out in the holographic image. It is so cool inthat locker room at that's a wonderful spot, man. I guess. I talked to Davidbaker Two days ago, three days ago when I decided I can't go because again withgrandchildren that are under 12 and haven't been vaccinated. I'm with themevery day. And you know, you you can contract, you can get the virus and itbe asymptomatic and even pass it on. Right? So no, I I'm gonna have to useyou as the P. S. A for all of this because my son's interning at the Hallof Fame and he's over there right now. He's the one like if you would haveshown up, Gabe would have been the one driving you around in a golf cart. Oh,man. I hope that that would be great. Heloves it. He's having such a good time over there. It's wonderful of thosepeople do a great job there and then being around the teammates ofyesteryear guys, you appreciate what they've done anybody. I mean that, youknow, I don't know if either one of us know the odds on playing professionalfootball from uh high school level on and then to play as long as you did inprofessional football or you know what? Well, I don't know if it would havehappened if it wasn't for people like you changing the game and paving theway. So I want to thank you for that because you're the idol, you were theguy that made so many kids want to play...

...the game. So thank you. Well, thank you.Gus and I hope you and I can get together again during the season maybe,man. So yeah, that'd be great. Talk again. Yeah, we'll go to a Jets gamewhen they're when they're eight. No, wow. I uh but you know what, I don't know. Iguess there's there's probably odds on Kansas city maybe be at eight. No, atone point, not even on that bed in Vegas would probably,and if it happens that probably when you help. That's right. You know, I Iyeah, you know how hard it is to win man. Competition is keen. Yeah, well, Ihope their young quarterback and can play pretty well. Oh, there's not oneout there, you know, for the last 30 years and couldn't play pretty well,you know. Right? Yeah, it's a tough place, man. Yeah, it's been a toughplace, but Joe, I want to thank you if you can hang on for a second, I'm gonnaclose the show and just talk to you off the air for two seconds after we'redone. All right. Thank you. Yes. Alright. Hey everyone, I want to thankyou for joining me in the huddle up with Gus, what a special show today. Um,I want to thank all of our sponsors and, and, and really thank you joe forcoming on and sharing your story. Uh, just somebody who grew up, like I grewup and, and we got to do the same job, which is incredible. And joe thank youso much. Thank you to all our sponsors sounder. I want to thank 16 31 digitalnews and don't forget to go to Vegas sports advantage joe and I were justtalking about it. Go place that bet with Vegas sports advantage for theJets to be eight and oh and you might win some money. So they'll help you outuse huddle up. That's my code and save 25%. So thanks everyone for joining us.What a great show and we'll see you next time. And that's a wrap sports fan. Thanksfor joining in the fun at the 16 31 digital studios for another actionpacked huddle up with Gus featuring 15 Year NFL quarterback. Gus parent huddleup with Gus is proudly produced by 1631 digital media and is available on applemusic.

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