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Huddle Up with Gus

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Mario Andretti

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Welcome to the huddle with 15-year NFL quarterback Gus Frerotte! It’s a fast-paced, thrilling ride on today’s huddle as Gus interviews the one and only Mario Andretti! Gus and Mario go through what life was like for the record-breaking champion as he was “excelling” through his career at break-neck speeds. One of the most successful Americans in the history of motorsports, Andretti is one of the only two drivers to have one races in Formula One, IndyCar and World Sportscar Championship … and, of course, NASCAR! So sit back Gus fans, make sure your seatbelt is firmly fashioned and get ready for the flag to drop – it’s MARIO ANDRETTI TIME in the huddle.

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...of pushing them into it all I did andmade it available. And then I think I made it clear enough to say, you knowwhat, uh, you make the choice, it's up to you if you want to continue this.And, and the message back was clear, you know, from, from Michael and bothJeff as well and they both went through all the, you know, the sort of, uh, thecategories, you know, for, you know, the, that, this, uh, all the roads tosay to, to India, if you will, you know, the little leaguers and all that is the,there are plenty of those categories, you know, that advance you up until youget to the top and, and the best thing is that, you know, looking back theyall, they were winning going right through the different disciplines anduh, and Mike, Michael had a phenomenal career, Jeff was not as happy as, aslucky. Was fortunate just like my twin brother, although we both startedtogether And I'm the guy that was dodging all the bullets and he wasgetting all the bullets. Uh, so his career was brief, you know, about 10years and then, you know, he had to retire after the last accident. AndJeff did pretty much the same thing. But as a family, as you can see, youknow, Jeff went on and then Michael went on and uh, and then his son, Marco,uh, the other end ready that took took up this, this game. And uh, and hepretty much started about the same age. Uh, he was nine or 10 and, and continuethe same road as Michael did. Yeah, that's incredible that what about asbeing a dad? What was the first race where you really were nervous? You knowwhat I mean? Because, like when my kids played, uh, kind of, youth footballwasn't as nervous, but then I got up the high school ranks where guys arebigger, faster. What was the first time you remember being pretty nervous towatch them? I was always nervous. I'm nervous today. That never cheated. Uh,I'm the nervous nelly on the sideline. Uh, the only time that I was morerelaxed was when we were on a race track together, you know? And uh, youknow, Michael and I were even teammates toward the end of my career and, andhis, and uh, and we actually, we were on podium 15 times in an indycar race,you know? So, uh, yeah, we had some good racing together and we started, uh,We started on the front row 10 times. And, uh, we were first a second fivetimes. So it was 5, 10 and 15. So we had some great times together. Whatabout, like if you and Michael, we're coming in together, right? Or you're inthe last lap together, who's going to let the other one win? It? Always acompetition. There's not letting anybody. Matter of fact, as I say, mywife, DM was always as she would, uh, reprimand us, me especially, uh, youknow, uh, is your son? You've got to give him a break, you know, becauseevery time we were just wheel to wheel, but there was always some touching, youknow, like, uh, woman Nagy says, you guys, you know, you're crazy. And then,of course, you know, we would take care of each other, you know, we nevercrashed each other. Yeah, that would be good after that one. Right? I've beenquite right home. But, uh, I know the one, the one race in, uh, Portland's1986 Michael was actually, uh, way ahead and I was second and no chance tocatch him about three laps from the end. The engineer is screaming in my ear,Michael's every, some fuel pickup problem. So, and I stood on that seatand, uh, we're coming along for the drive race to the finish line. I beathim by several, one thousands of a second. Oh man, I can't imagine. Was hehuman? Oh, he was fuming. Uh, yeah, on the podium. He was actually, uh, he waspretty upset. And uh, and one gentleman says, hey, Mike, is his, is it there?Cool off a little bit? He says his father's Day? Yeah. Happy father's day,dad? Yeah, That's funny. That's funny. What do you let him win? He's your son,is are you kidding? Right, Right. He's going to do this a lot longer than me.He's gonna be in it forever now. And you're probably saying, like, I got toget what I can, he's exactly. So how was it, when you would give them advice?Would they take it and say, oh yeah, dad, whatever, you know, because, youknow, it's differently even when I...

...played football game, I try to give myboys advice and things. Sometimes I listen sometimes not, but as a father,they, it's, you know what I mean, you're their dad and not The Greatest Fone Racer Ever. Formula One. Yeah, I mean, advice, you know, especially atthe, at the beginning, you know, especially in golf carts, you know, Ijust would watch them different lines and so on and so forth. And whenever Iwould make a suggestion, you know, Michael or Jeff, they would, you know,take to it, that was pretty good, you know, they would they would kind oflisten later on, you know, that was just a matter of discussion. There wasnot a lot, you know, direct. Okay, how do I do this? How do I do that? Youknow, we were just generally, we always talk shop obviously. So, um, uh, and,and you know, the, there were many times when we're Michael and I wereteammates a lot of time. He was, he was, you know, he would hold things backfrom, right? Yeah. We always remember you always remember you beating him bywhat? 7th, 1007, 1 thousands of a second or something. He wasn't gonnagive you any more help. You wouldn't give you any more help. So we have alot of people on, if anybody has a question for Mario, let me know, put itinto questions, claim a spot and you come and ask Mario question, I'm sure alot of you have a lot of great questions for you. So Mario, I wasthinking like, okay, what am I going to talk to you about? And I wanted to kindof compare because now you guys have your ownership of a team and you'realways picking new people to race and how that happens. How do you see, uh,somebody who's been driving and see that they have better skill thansomebody else. You know what I mean? Like we have rookies, we have people togo to the combine, we can see them in college and you can kind of see theirskills, but how do you, how does that happen in racing? Well, I think it'sthe same way, the same as any other sport, you know, uh, when, you know thesport, you know what it's all about, then you pick those things are veryquickly and very easily. But honestly, um, I want to put one thing, I want tomake sure that, you know, that Michael, Michael is the only one that owns hisown team. I don't, I'm not part of it. And I'll specify that because Michaelactually, I think it came out of the cockpit as a driver When he was at thevery top of his game and bitterly actually was only about 42 years old.You know, I, I raised like another 11 years, you know, Raised until I was 50for actually, uh, years. Yeah, so the bottom line is this, uh, he looked atthis thing, uh, very definitely than I did. Um, you looked at the businessside of it, which is the ownership and uh, and he bought in on the team thatactually he was driving for at the time. And uh, and, and that's it. I mean,it's, uh, from there on, he just cultivated his business and he's, uh,you know, is entering drivers has seven different disciplines, you know, evenbecause Australia, you know, super was there. So, um, but anyway, this becamehis business and he, he's enjoying it tremendously. And going back to yourquestion about how you pick drivers. Um, it's like anything else. You just goout there and you have some of your own people, they're doing some scouting andthen then they bring them on and they test them, you know, they're testingdrivers right now. They were testing a couple of drivers in Indianapolis andthen in the last few days, um, and, and that's how you choose him. But alsohe's picking his drawing from his zone, uh, disciplines categories that he'sdriving. Like they called the road to Indy. Um, he said, uh, some of the mostsuccessful drivers really that he's had on his team came through that category.You know, that's just a step below the, the Indy cars and that they called theIndy lights and, and again, it's, so it's a process like anything else that,but as far as really trying to, to, you know, to depict some talent, Um, youknow, I, I just loved, you know, to watch racist myself and not only in thecar, let it be NASCAR Formula one. And you can really, you can see, you know,especially some of the young talent coming on that's got, they have thelittle extra, yeah, possess an ability. And uh, and that's really what you gofor. You know, if you own a team, you...

...know, you want to surround yourselfwith the best you can possibly get and Mike Michael and, you know, this team,he's had some pretty good shoes, there's a pretty good drivers thatbrought him, uh, you know, it's really, and I was reading a couple of the youngkids that they've picked up recently and it's pretty amazing how, and I wasjust wondering like there's a better, like a driver have 1/6 sense, like a,you know, quarterback just makes guys miss in the pocket. They kind of, it'slike, how do you know that guy was coming? You know what I mean? You havelike 1/6 sense when you're driving, like you just kind of have a betterfeel for it. All of it. I mean, it's an all of it plays, I mean, it's, uh, youknow, each, you know, each sport has its own quirks, its own, you know, thespecialties and, and uh, and you know, the guy that actually, uh, can predictcertain things or can even, you know, the race car is a strange animals andanimal that requires a lot of adjustments and, and, you know, justabout anyone can drive a perfect race car that's really set up most of thetime. You're not going to have that. So who are the ones that excel the bestare the ones that actually can adapt. Yeah, I adapt to the car that's not100%,, You know, a car that maybe it's 90%, and you try to make up, you know,because you just develop that skill to be able to just that maybe um do someof what the cars want rather than what you'd want sometimes and uh and stillmake make do and you can win some races that way where Some drivers that don'thave that ability, you know, they pretty much, you know, they're done forthat day. So yeah, no, I get I completely understand that you just,there's just guys that people that have a different skill set and it takes thema long way. All right, so we have some questions here. 1st 1 is from Terry,This one will be a chat. You've had an amazing racing career, but you are alsoan amazing chef. How much influence did your grandmother have? And your love offood, wow, Good question. I don't know where you found that out, but actuallythe amazing chef is my daughter Barbie. I'm the one that eats, I would need thesame. Yeah, my, you know, my mother actually uh and my grandmother was theone that they had a restaurant was quite well known. We were, you knowback in Italy and then of course my mom uh she was, she didn't love it, but butmy dad loved us. So she had to be a good, you have to please him. And thenmy daughter Barbie really took her. She's got all the recipes andeverything and yeah, Yes, he's the one that takes good care of me and uh everycouple three days she invites me to her house to eat because she thinks I'mgonna be starving, you know, I bet you never say no. Right, Like Yeah, well,no, no, I bring a bottle of wine with me. So that's, that's my gift. What'syour favorite wine? Well, you're a cab guy. Yeah, yeah, ofcourse. I'm okay. You can go on and on and talk about ones. Yeah, I mean, Ilove to start with a nice started a quite honestly. And then I went up withcab Sangiovese and Merlot Syrah. You talking? I mean, you know, just uh,there's so much to choose from. There is so there's incredible wineeverywhere now. It's like it's it's exploding. So it's a lot of fun to tryeverything. So we got another question from VJ VJ s um not quite related toracing, but for Mario, did you enjoy the Nazareth marching band in 2019? Anddo you think marching band is a sport? So I don't know if you know the answerto that one, but or what you VJ is talking about, but I'll let you take ashot at it? Well, in 2019 we were celebrating that the 50th anniversaryof my win at Indianapolis and the Nazareth marching band was pretty much,you know, celebrating that, which was quite nice, uh, for me. And so I, Iattended a few of the events and they were spectacular. You know, just theway they presented and uh, and of course, you know, there are hometownmarching band and they're in competition. So any competition can bea sport, Why not? You tried to be better than the other team. And uh, andthey showed tremendously, you know, they were winning uh, pretty much allof uh, all the events they entered. So I was very proud of that. Yeah, no,that's awesome. I would think that if I had to carry a tube around for an hour,that would be a sport, right? That'd be pretty good workout. That would bepretty tough. All right, we got one from Andrew Howard here Andrew wants toknow f one drivers, looking at indycar...

...jimmy and Indycar, how important isthis cross series engagement? Like your career to racing's growth? I, I love to see that. I love to seethat some of the drivers again, like you said, even from Nascar's, we seejust lately jimmy, johnson and then we have uh, you know, we have ruinedGrosjean name the car, the latest again from Formula One and uh, uh, somethingthat I've derived tremendous satisfaction throughout my career bycrossing over and uh, and not only just racing there, I mean if you made, butalso, you know, trying to win, you were trying to win somebody else's sandboxat the wrong game. Uh, but yeah, like I said, I just love the opportunities todo that. And uh, and whenever I see it happening now, just like, even coupleof years ago and uh, you know, when we had some other experiences, uh, youknow, with Fernando, Alonso coming to Indianapolis and driving for Michaeland you know, he, by the time the race came on, you know, the race was on, youknow, at the end, you have the luxury to, you know, to do, uh, you know, tohave a lot of practice, you know, because you're a full week before youqualify. So by the time the race coming on, you know, even if you arrived atthe first time you can be like a veteran, you know, we know what you'redoing it and when the race came on, I mean, but race time, he was pretty muchhe was ready to win. He could have won that race technically the way he wasdriving and the engine let him down. But uh, so again, it's great for thesport, I think to see that because you have some fans are loyal to theirspecific discipline, but the crossover brings fans back and forth. You know,uh, you know, Formula One, looking at Indy car and vice versa. You know, soagain, we're just, now, what we need is some, uh, an indycar actually,hopefully even an american, indycar driver in Formula One, that's what I'mtrying for. Yeah, that'd be great. Is that kind of like, so I'm assuming it'slike, like when we tell kids that just play one sport you should try them allbecause it makes you better, right? So I'm assuming if you're an indie car guy,if you um, that if you've done Nascar, there's different skill sets with allthat, right? Yeah. Oh absolutely. That's the beauty of it. I think itexpands, I mean your, your ability and, and, and, and your skills by having toreally adapt again, you know, to a different type of car, differentcharacteristics. And uh, and I felt that I benefited tremendously even evenby having driven the dirt, you know, the dirt tracks where you do, you know,you basically steer the car with the throttle and all that sort of thingbecause you're always looking for a grip, you know, you're, you're alwaysdriving a different line through the corners and that helped me in the wet,you know, because sometimes the Europeans think that americans candrive in a wet, you know, and that probably gave me even more, you know,right? Because there and uh, and, and do it properly and you know, I wantsome good races in the wet, you know, and, and I benefited, I think a lotfrom driving a dirt track car. So I can imagine that so different over there isa crossover or skill that's required, you know to, to drive and recognizehere again the different characteristics and be able to adaptone side or another. Yeah, I would think that like, if I'm a Nascar guyand I'm driving an oval all the time and then you have to do, um, you know,it's, it's indycar right, that you go through, like when they do the track inIndy, so you can do the oil, but then they do the inside of the course to,with the road courses. Well, yeah, that would be a lot different. Like I'malways going left and all of a sudden I got road courses, we're going to maketurns and I got to learn how to do that in a different car. That would bepretty difficult. India's a series vis a vis a Formula one. Formula One isspecific to just road racing and, and an Indy car that I think that indycarchampion is a more complete driver even than the Formula one driver because, uh,in order to become champion, you better be able to, uh, better be good atsuperspeedway short ovals and then, you know, and then the street courses, wehave quite a few street courses, that Formula One, you know, I had to have acouple as well, but uh, but like I said, there's just a variety of, uh, of, uh,layouts that you have to deal with, I...

...think, you know, makes you a much morecomplete driver, you know, skill wise. Um, and here again, that's somethingthat personally, always attracted me a great deal to be honest with you, Ilove it. I mean, I, I think that is great that you can, because like yousaid, there's fans of different sports like Nascar Indycar, Formula One,there's different fans. And when you can cross promote, that helps the wholeindustry. Absolutely, definitely. So I got an Oscar on here, Oscar if you wantto turn your camera and I'll bring you on live and you can ask those questionstomorrow yourself, which would be really cool. Uh, and so Mario, whatcountry do you love driving in the most? I mean, I know you live over here inthe States, but you've been all over the, what country do you love drivingin the most? Well, to me, a racetrack is a racetrack,you know, I, you know, racing six continents, you know, and when you'reon the race track, you know, it's, it doesn't matter, you know, even so, uh,as far as any country to visit. Well, that's another story. Well, that's whateveryone has the best wine, correct or wherever your daughter's cooking,That's what I would say that. All right, let me bring, I'm gonna bring Oscar on,let's see, Hey, there is Oscar, nobody, I'm doing great. This is awesome. Yeah,yeah, I'm glad to have you here. So you guys got a question for Mario. I do. Sotomorrow you were credited with implementing ground effect into thefirst cars on a race track. And I was curious because at that time Michaelschumacher also mounted his radiator fan to the bottom of his car to create,you know, a sort of vacuum, further increased down force. So, well, youwere creating that innovative technology and that was happening atthe same time where they viewed in kind of parallel ways and both of them werevery much disrupting like racing in a similar way or was it kind of perceivedlike there's no way that this fan thing is gonna last and that's cheating andwe're not cheating. Like how is that kind of dynamic between the teams atthe time? Well, the difference between the fan that you're talking about is,is the fan was just sucking up, you know, rocks and everything else fromthe track and spitting out the back and uh, that actually, that, that car was aBrabham was raised only once and it won the race, you know, and uh, with NikiLauda in, in uh, underst or pin in Sweden and then after that it was ruled,you know, ruled out because I can imagine having the whole field withthose cars. I mean, it would be dangerous among other things. But theart ground effect was natural. You were just, it was shaping the underneath ofthe car, you know, to, in other words, let me let me go back a little bit upto that point. You were just, we were using airfoils at the time, you know,where you have on the top surface to press the car down, obviously to giveit more grip and, you know, more attractions to the corners. But withthe air falls, you have a lot of front frontal area penalty. The more angleyou put on the air foil, you know, to get more down force. You know, thestory, you're going to go on the straightaway, but with the groundeffects, you get free down force from the flow that creates a suction, anegative pressure underneath the car. And that was created almost by accidentquite honestly. And it was developed, we're developing more and more in 1977whereby, you know, we just, then, it's a long story, you know, how we developmore and more, uh, down force, but directing the air that we had so calledmovable skirts on the outside too to retain the air so the air wants slipand get out on the sides, you know, and then changing different angle ofdiffusers on the exits and, you know, so many things, it was actually veryinteresting, fascinating, uh, you know, going through all the, all that, and,and it was all part of what you would call that, uh, that the development uh,race guard throughout the different decades, you know, that, uh, you see,uh, you know, we're all started, you know, with some basic four, you know,four wheels and uh, it's very slim, you know, just an engine and so forth. and,and only with mechanical, uh, you know,...

...it's just suspension, Everything elseuntil, you know, all of a sudden we started thinking, okay, now we can goto use the air, you know, to give it and the more you press it down or youknow, obviously the more grip you get through the corners and there was anevolution, if you will, uh, there was for me just having lived through thatperiod, you know, I feel so fortunate, you know, because I think I probablyhad a little more understanding and more appreciation for what's going ontoday, you know, where it came from, to where it is now and, and so again, allof this is uh, it was part of being with like you Colin chapman, you know,who was a real maverick, you know, the guy was very, very, were intelligent inso many ways, but uh, he really dedicated himself in so many ways tojust create to give the driver, uh, this, you know, so called unfairadvantage if possible, you know, uh, you know, I was, you know, it wasphenomenal to be part of that with, you know, individuals like himself for MrFerrari and you know, these are icons of our sport that will probably neverbe duplicated. Right? So hey, Oscar, would you like to get a picture withMario, check this out. So look, we got a selfie mode, here we go, let's see,we're gonna try it out here. Here we go. I love it. Alright. Thereyou go then. I guess that will go right to your um that'll go right to yourqueue. Uh appreciate you, man. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you too, for theyesterday. Thank you. Mr. Take care. All right, that's pretty cool. And thenMario we get to take yourself. Yeah, that's pretty neat. So, if All right,um I appreciate you for doing that. But what technology did you see where thatcame into racing? That you were like, okay, now this is gonna be amazing,it's going to change the sport. Do you think it's what you were just talkingabout? Do you think it's different, I think the aerodynamics aspect of it wasprobably the most powerful element in the race card to give a performance. Imean, give you, for instance, you know, let's take Indianapolis, for instance,uh when I uh, That was a rookie there in 1965, the car was just pure, therewas no down force whatsoever. And, you know, the speeds were where they were,you know, he had to back off and, you know, in the race, you were evenbreaking for the corners. Uh and now, I mean, you just go flat out in 240 mph,you know, through the corners. And uh and the only thing is the only thatslows down is the inertia, you know, that slows down, but the staying flat,qualifying at least not in a race, but qualifying. So it's it's an incrediblefeeling and you're depending on all that down force. I mean, if somethingwould happen, I mean, the car would just take off and just fly over thegrand stands, you know? Yeah, they lost a lead or something like any littlething that would happen to it to change all that. Yeah, incredible. But like Isaid, it's uh yeah, definitely, the aerodynamic aspect of the cars and it'squite regulated by the way, because gus with the knowledge that is availablethat we have today, you know, on the engineering side, you can make a car,you know, so easily drive a ble you know, that it would be ridiculous. So,I will not even be a sport. So, you're saying I could do this, the the rulesactually, yeah, the rules actually are so you cannot really use everythingthat, you know, you know, you're, you're what? Right, they wouldn't wantme driving because I'd slow the car way down, I'm way too big. No, no, no man,that's no excuse by the way. So, so I've seen the, you know, Ferrari Fordmovie that, you know, that kind of gives you an over idea, an idea of whatwas going on then. Now, have you got to meet those gods were kind of where wereyou in that timeframe when all that was going on, because it's it's amazing, Iwas part of all that, that was, was in that series, I mean, I was, uh, I wasone of the test drivers for, for ford at the time and I was part of thedevelopment of those cars with Bruce McLaren. Like we want the frustrationwith the Mark four. I was a woman when they were running. So, uh, and uh, youknow, even, uh, you know, with, uh, uh, you know, when Miles was, was waskilled, I was there that test at...

...riverside. They didn't show the track.I mean, they had someone left a lot to be desired, especially with somebodylike me that was there, you know, but you know, a movie is a movie, but youknow, ken Miles was, you know, it was like an engineer driver type of guy and,and there was a lot to be learned from a guy like that. And uh, and I wasreally in the time of my career that I needed to be learning from someone likehim and uh, and I had a special appreciation for that for sure and he'sin and he's depicted exactly that in the movie correctly. I'm not sure thatthey, but he was much calmer guy. I don't want to show it anymore. Yeah,like you said something to be desired about, you know what, how things havepresented, you know? And uh, well, but, and I was trying to picture like theydo a good job of showing like moving up in an engine and we're trying to beatthis group and then all of a sudden, you know, I think it was forward, right?So, um, the actor that takes him for a ride in the, in the ford, the car, hegives them a lot of like, you know, they're like, he's like, surprised, letme show you what this can do, but for you, you've seen all the engines comethrough the time, what engine do you remember where you got into a car andyou're like, man, this thing is killer, This is one of the best, like, mostpowerful engines I've ever like driven as it is. It like the newer stuff forthe older times, you know, where it was like such a big jump that you just fellin love with it. Well, you know, here again, it's, I think for a driver,obviously you're always going for more power, more power, you know, thatthat's a mixture smile because you always want to go fast, what's gonnamake you go faster, horse pop. And so I personally, I liked the, the era whenthe turbocharger engines came on the scene whereby, you know, you started,we were running were qualifying with engines, but by 11 on your horsepower,you know, and sometimes and that we didn't have a car that actually wascapable really dealing with that. So we're getting a lot of wheel spin, evenon the superspeedway, if you will, a lot of that is regulated and now youdon't have as much but experiencing that was just amazing. Um, it's theultimate satisfaction from a driver to really have, you know, The mostpowerful engines possible. I mean, I experienced that an indycar experiencedthat in Formula one you know, but uh, you know, interpret charge engine was,but if, you know, they have the hybrid engines now in Formula One, whichthey'll pump up, you know, in qualifying trim, you know, somewherearound 850 horsepower, you know, which is uh, you know, it's pretty good forthe, the power generation would be just like, You know, if your family car youwould have like 4000 horsepower. Yeah, that would be crazy. Do you remember,Do you remember the first time you broke? 200? Yeah, actually, uh, super speedways arethe places, you know that you do that and that was actually at Indy, you knowwhere uh, you know, because uh yeah, that's that's where you're gonna go thequickest. You know, do you want your team and your did you have like theheadset and you can hear your, like the team in your headset telling you things,you know, you always, you always informed, you know, you have, there's aboard and everything else, you know, you always know uh, immediately a fastyou're going and, and many times even you have a speedometer in the car, youknow, but you look at the red rpm, you know, you know, if you're reallycooking, you know where the RPMs are. So uh yeah, that's even qualifying, youknow, many times uh, you know, I, I knew that I had a really good luckgoing uh, usually when just watching that. Uh, so yeah, I think I got it,right, And most of the time that, that would be a pole position type of thing.Right? So would you say, so I'm looking at doing a new show about rivalries,right, Who would you say that your biggest rival was that you ever got tocompete against? Like, okay, this guy got me, I'm gonna get him now, likethere always is that little that, that makes you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, robberies,I think something is very healthy in sports obviously. Um, even, you know,with us, uh, robbery, uh, somebody that's better than you makes you betterbecause it's gonna make you work harder for me when I came on the scene, uh,the guy that was really the yardstick at the time was a J. Foyt. And evenwhen he was five years my senior, he...

...was already a champion, uh, in Indycars and, and uh, and I was going on, I was pretty much a thorn on his sidebecause I think I was doing pretty good as a rookie, you know, I won't buy one,you know, I was one of my first championship as a rookie, you know, andit didn't, you know, in the series Indianapolis series. So I was a thornon the side. And uh, did he say anything to you though? Because youcome up and give you a little night? Did say a lot of things, a lot ofthings you don't need to be said more honestly. I bet. I bet. Yeah. Hey bed.Yeah, I know. That is like, you know, when I was a rookie, there's a lot ofvets looking at you and saying, all right, well, it took a long time for usto, to call each other friends, but all kind of goes by the wayside becauseyou're both competed right for a long time and then you kinda at the end, youlook back on your career and you can become friends. But while you're doingit, it's a little different. It's a little different. Yeah, I can tell youthat just to be labored on that a little bit is, uh, I look at howfortunate, you know, I mean, age is not the only one. I mean, you move aroundthere several other drivers, you know, the answers and so on and so forth thatany given time they're better than you, you know, because they're good and uh,and that's what really elevates your, you know, your ability. I mean elevatesyour game if you will because, uh, you know, you never rest. You know, there'salways somebody is going to be better you that day, so you just work hard andwork harder and that's what, that's what makes you, you know that that'sthe positive side of uh, of the sport of sports period in my opinion, is itwork hard, but also always learning, right? I feel like those things, yeah,like those two things go together. Like, hey, I want to learn what that car did.So like we can figure out how to make my car better, those kind of things. Ifelt, I was like, I felt I was learning until my very last race quite honestly.Yeah. So I heard from somebody that you have, like when you go into yourdriveway, you have a piece of a wall from one of the race tracks and I can'tremember what they were saying. But when you go in there, it was like, um,one of the one racetrack Iran, there was a piece of wall instead of likestones and everything going up to your driver, you have a piece of this wall.Is that true? No, somebody was, I was fishing out in Harrisburg and this guysaid, oh yeah, I've been past Mario and he has this thing, you know? And so Idon't know. I had to ask him, like, I'm gonna interview him, I'll find out. Andhe said, oh, I swear I'll have to look for, I look for afterwards. I'll tellhim you wouldn't look for it. It looked for it. Yeah. You know, I think thateverything that is going on now, I feel pretty good that we're getting back tonormal kind of and you know, even, you know, India is getting full, all thesenascar venues are coming back now. How do you feel about everything gettingback to normal? Loving it obviously. I mean just like in watching the footballgames, I mean, you know, 70 80,000 people, you know, elbow to elbow man,that's what we want. You know, and uh, and, and again, it's just we've beenlonging for that because uh, it was really tough in the last year and ahalf or so, especially last year, you know, that curtailing some of theevents. And can you imagine like Indianapolis, uh, you know, the most oftennis sport, I would say. Uh, you know, anywhere, uh, you know, there was,there wasn't a soul in the stands, it was just eerie. Um, you know, yeah.Last year I had a, I was up on the pagoda, which is, you know, just a highpart of the, you know, on the race track. And, and I was interview, youknow, by abc at the time and, and I'm looking down on the cars are on thegrid there on the track, There isn't, there wasn't anybody around there. Itwas like it almost like it was surreal. Yeah. This again in my, my life. Yeah.Like the car start up, but there's no, there's nothing that fan noise thatbuzz that's going on around, you, just hear the cars. That would be reallyeerie. Yeah, it was, we don't want toexperience that again, right? We don't. So um Terry wanted to know, uh, youknow, you've had all these incredible accomplishments in your life, you'vewon so many races, but is, you know, winning driver of the year, threedifferent decades, would you say that's one of your was your favoriteaccomplishments? Well, of course it is. I mean, it's uhall of it, I mean, it's it's the ultimate thing that uh, you know, thatyou're looking for. I mean, at the driver to hear something that uh, it'sa judge, something that you get...

...somebody voting for, something likethat, you know? And uh, but I think just winning championships is it's theultimate because they're, you know, you learn in earnest, I mean, you know,either finished for a second, it's not somebody judging, Oh, yeah, you're thebest today. You've got to prove it, you gotta be there and, and uh, for me, youknow, you gotta I gotta look back at that. We're all started for me. Uh, andand that is when I was just a young lad in Italy, you know, And, and I, youknow, some of the very first big race, international race, uh, I was 14 yearsof age there And, and that's when my dream began to become a race driver. SoI clinched the world championship right there in Monza, where I saw my veryfirst big race in 1950 for and yeah, that's amazing on a personal level, cananything top that? No, you know, that I was uh, there's uh Goodwood in Englandevery year. They have an incredible event with a lot of vintage cars fromall different eras and uh, okay, this year I was there and I got to drive thevery car than my idol, Alberto Scotti, the Ferrari, he was driving in thatrace, wow, yeah, take you back to, like when you were a kid, like you talkabout going full cycle. Yeah, that's amazing, you know, coming back and Imean, the, the gentleman that owned that, he was, he was vibrating because,you know, if you go, oh my goodness, I mean, this is a priced possession, youknow, and but he let me drive it and then it said on the hill climb and, andit was an incredible moment for me was, you know, the bit emotional as well,you know, but can you imagine that at 14 years of age, I was gonna say, youknow, kid, when you're 80 years old, you're gonna be able to drive that car.Well, that was, that was, I guess it was like when I played football and Icame back to Pittsburgh, where I grew up and got to play in the stadium here,you know, just being in there, where I watched all these Steelers when I was akid play, you know, then you get to go back in that space, you know, you justlook around and take a deep breath. It's amazing how just, it does comefull circle. It's awesome. I'm glad you got to experience that. Yeah, it'samazing. All right, one last question we got Andrew on, um Andrew if you wantto turn your, you're Cameron, you can ask yourself, I'd love for you to dothat, but Andrew, I don't know if he's going to make it in here into the queue,but um, Andrew wants to know an indycar, theyhave an insane amount of young talent. Can you recall recall a group like thisin the past? You know what, overall, I think this isunprecedented. And then, and it's exciting, as exciting as can be. Uh, Ijust, uh, as a fan, I can't wait for some of the races just to see some ofthe young talent here is up against, uh, you know, some of the veterans, they'restill young enough, you know, but they're as good as, you know, as I'veever seen, and, you know, just, uh, you know, I'm looking at a young lad like,uh, you know, Colton Herta for instance, I always been driving from my sonMichael and at the young age, you know, winning the way he has already, youknow, you already won uh six Indycar races and he's only 21 years old, youknow, amazing, it was seven pole positions, I mean, and he didn't win bystrategy and he won by pure pure speed and uh and so that's exciting, but uhand you know the rookie champion this time, this Alex below uh there'sanother one, you know, that came out of pretty much nowhere if you will, butloads of talent and you know, the Chip Ganassi team, you know, and and youknow, here it is, you know, he's the national champion is uh rookie here inIndy, you know, so uh and there's some others out there that you know, they'reall gonna, you're gonna hear from them, you know, they got uh uh the award,they got potato award is another one, you know with the McLaren group thereand again, you know, exciting stuff. I I agree with you Andrew, I think it'suh can't wait for the season to get started again. Thanks Andrew,appreciate that. So um what do you have...

...coming up, what are you looking forwardto? You still seem very busy? I was watching you, you're all over the place,just like you talked about, you were over in uh England I think, but what doyou have coming up Mario that people can follow you and and see what you'redoing now. Well just you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna get some more uhFormula One races, I think before the season. And uh I don't have a specificplan yet, so, but we'll let you know, you know, I have quite a bit on myplate anyway, uh and look forward to whatever is coming up again. And we gotquite a few Formula One races to watch. There's gonna be uh championshipdeciding race this weekend, you know, Nascar in phoenix and stuff like thatwill be interesting to see what Kyle Larson does there. He's been therevelation of uh, Nascar this year, you know, I think with the rick Hendrick uhequipment and we'll see how it comes off because uh, is against two alreadychampions and then Denny Hamlin who is probably the winning, is that when Iwin Nascar drivers without winning a championship. So it's gonna be, youknow, a lot to look forward to. And so that's what it is, that's our life.That is awesome. That is awesome. Well, I love that, you're one of the greatestever and I thank you for coming on a second time and huddle up with gus whatis for dinner tonight at your daughter's house actually, some, I havesome pasta with non arena sauce, which is unbelievable what's known arenasauce, That's my, my, my my mother sauce, that's the name of, nobody knowsthat it's actually, but that's what my barbie calls it because it's hergrandmother known as grandmother. Okay, Yeah, I love it because the known arenasauce. I love it. I love it. Well, thank you for coming on, enjoy yourknown arena sauce and I'm sure you're going to have a nice wine with thattonight. It all sounds like it's gonna be a perfect night you bet. ThanksMario. I appreciate you coming on. Thanks again. Have a great night uh andthank you for being so patient with me on that late flight I had from florida.Hey everyone. Um that's another episode of huddle Up with Gus. Thank you forjoining me. I want to thank super for hosting us. Uh I want to thank, I thinkit was Oscar coming on, taking a nice selfie and asking a great question andall you can catch me. I'll be back tomorrow with Darren Mccarty. Uh he wasa four time Stanley cup champion from the Detroit Red wings will be on at twoo'clock tomorrow, but I appreciate Mario, hope you guys got a littleinsight into what memorials life is like. But there's so many otherquestions that we all probably could ask them. Thanks to sounder and if youwant to listen to this podcast again, check it out. It's under F. M orwherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Thanks everyone go to huddleup with Gus and check me out. Have a great night. Thanks Mark, I'll see youbuddy and that's a wrap sportsman. Thanks for joining in. The fun at the16 31 digital studios for another. Actually, huddle up with Gus, featuring15 year NFL quarterback. Gus parent huddle up with. Gus is proudly producedby 16 31 digital media and is available on apple music.

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